Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
Cool monorail to me. Remarkably similar to the recent trolley/streetcar recent article, eh? In a message dated 8/21/2008 10:03:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh if haven't seen one fun one to read: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/oldnews/1900/1950/0357.htm **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Area attractions: The Stone Poney, The Boardwalk, AND The Asbury Amusement Factory and (get this), the 8th Ave Jetty. (no lie, read it yourself). I was always more impressed with the CH Jetty. Maybe these guys should head from Washington. Later, I'm going to see the Jetty. Two years later and they still haven't fixed it: http://www.madisonmarquette.com/files/Asbury.pdf Also, how did DeVito make AP his summer retreat if he lived there? Retreat would indicate going someplace away from where you live. Same with Nicholson (or does driving across the tracks count as retreating?) Also, apparently no one ever heard of Asbury Park until 1975, when Springsteen put it on the map. (Poor AP, languishing in obscurity for 100 years. ;) Dare I mention the album actually came out in '73?) The character and history of Asbury Park will be preserved.. it says on top of page 3. How can you preserve something you don't even know? (I AM stoked to see that jetty though. That must be one amazing set of rocks!) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two years later and they still haven't fixed it: http://www.madisonmarquette.com/files/Asbury.pdf Also, how did DeVito make AP his summer retreat if he lived there? Retreat would indicate going someplace away from where you live. Same with Nicholson (or does driving across the tracks count as retreating?) Also, apparently no one ever heard of Asbury Park until 1975, when Springsteen put it on the map. (Poor AP, languishing in obscurity for 100 years. ;) Dare I mention the album actually came out in '73?) The character and history of Asbury Park will be preserved.. it says on top of page 3. How can you preserve something you don't even know? (I AM stoked to see that jetty though. That must be one amazing set of rocks!) Something interesting on those plans in the brochure... check out the Fifth Avenue Pavilion. Look at the second floor plan that is showing Tim McLoone's Supper Club... its not actually the 2nd floor they are showing, its the basement. The reason behind this is absolutely because they do not want to show the 2nd floor of the pavilion because, well, it contains the bandshell. This means one of two things. 1) The bandshell has not been designed. 2) The area is being designed as something else that they do not want us to see right now. Its just something to think about, and I know there are some here who will think that is interesting. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something interesting on those plans in the brochure... check out the Fifth Avenue Pavilion. Look at the second floor plan that is showing Tim McLoone's Supper Club... its not actually the 2nd floor they are showing, its the basement. The reason behind this is absolutely because they do not want to show the 2nd floor of the pavilion because, well, it contains the bandshell. This means one of two things. 1) The bandshell has not been designed. 2) The area is being designed as something else that they do not want us to see right now. Its just something to think about, and I know there are some here who will think that is interesting. Sometimes a bear is just a bear. The bandshell will get rebuilt. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: Something interesting on those plans in the brochure... check out the Fifth Avenue Pavilion. Look at the second floor plan that is showing Tim McLoone's Supper Club... its not actually the 2nd floor they are showing, its the basement. The reason behind this is absolutely because they do not want to show the 2nd floor of the pavilion because, well, it contains the bandshell. This means one of two things. 1) The bandshell has not been designed. 2) The area is being designed as something else that they do not want us to see right now. Its just something to think about, and I know there are some here who will think that is interesting. Sometimes a bear is just a bear. The bandshell will get rebuilt. Easy to say... but why would they go through trouble to disguise a basement plan and cover it up as the second floor? Its would have been alot easier to just use the real second floor plan, even if the bandshell isnt designed yet... there is definately a second floor plan drawn up, and it would either say in the bandshell area: Designed by Others, or To Remain As Is... something along those lines. Unless they have something to hide, there really should be no reason why they would have to disguise a plan like that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: Something interesting on those plans in the brochure... check out the Fifth Avenue Pavilion. Look at the second floor plan that is showing Tim McLoone's Supper Club... its not actually the 2nd floor they are showing, its the basement. The reason behind this is absolutely because they do not want to show the 2nd floor of the pavilion because, well, it contains the bandshell. This means one of two things. 1) The bandshell has not been designed. 2) The area is being designed as something else that they do not want us to see right now. Its just something to think about, and I know there are some here who will think that is interesting. Sometimes a bear is just a bear. The bandshell will get rebuilt. Easy to say... but why would they go through trouble to disguise a basement plan and cover it up as the second floor? Its would have been alot easier to just use the real second floor plan, even if the bandshell isnt designed yet... there is definately a second floor plan drawn up, and it would either say in the bandshell area: Designed by Others, or To Remain As Is... something along those lines. Unless they have something to hide, there really should be no reason why they would have to disguise a plan like that. = Have you all lost your ability to read prints? That is indeed the 2nd floor being shown. That is the only usable space currently, the center of the Pavilion is just a roof (the seating area) and the south end of 2nd floor (the stage and band rooms) is not currently shown since its not for lease yet Where do you get the idea its the basement ??? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you all lost your ability to read prints? That is indeed the 2nd floor being shown. That is the only usable space currently, the center of the Pavilion is just a roof (the seating area) and the south end of 2nd floor (the stage and band rooms) is not currently shown since its not for lease yet Where do you get the idea its the basement ??? Werner It does appear that its the second floor... but zoom in to 400%. Then take a look and read below the circular area. It clearly reads basement plan. And if you look carefully, it is because the second floor of the hojo's is not drawn in... its just a circular outline. The architects did a patchwork job of making this appear as the real 2nd floor plan, when in actuality, its not. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Sometimes a bear is just a bear. The bandshell will get rebuilt. Head on over to North Beach and look at the concept plans that THEY have on display form SPG architects (think). These earlier plans show a very cool bandshell (i;m looking for the pdf) - nice brick that appears to match CH (least in color) and other buildings all probably you might them to look. Probably, then again, probably not maybe tomorrow I'll post some of the concept plans I saved when they were published. I think maybe Maureen may have some as well. Interesting to look like. Even the fancy ones of the Esperanza. And - no concept plans ever appeared alike - the ESP, Palace Hotel/entertaiment area, Wesley Grove vs actual. Depended who the engineers and architects were used and by what subdeveloper etc There's probably hundreds of concept plan of the BW and Cookman Ave. I;ve been trying to hunt down some older ones. Think about it - from Michael Jackson and Jacque Cousteau, Jai-Lai, Minor league baseball, Hotels, apartments towers, Hov, no bandshell, various doodles of the interior of CH, Bathhouse designsetc etc. I have a plan (angle) if I was to get all these on one place - a real great art show. Because it really is art. AP is probably one of the most conceptualized places in the world - next to Disney World. Oh if haven't seen one fun one to read: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/oldnews/1900/1950/0357.htm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Asbury Park Press reported that tourism $4.7 billion to the area and predicts an increase for 2005. ? What areaand, having done a few brochures, if you're the new kid, at least proof your work and update the year. AND Area attractions: The Stone Poney, The Boardwalk, AND The Asbury Amusement Factory and (get this), the 8th Ave Jetty. (no lie, read it yourself). I was always more impressed with the CH Jetty. Maybe these guys should head from Washington. Later, I'm going to see the Jetty. I told you, Looney Tunes, the whole group. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Misleading info in the brochure....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't the 400,000 sf in the plan include the entirety of CH and Casino? What about the power plant? And perhaps the new hotel (laugh) will include some additional retail sf? I was hoping someone would pick up on that. Yes the 400,000 included the Paramont Theater (not a retail space), Convention Hall (not a retail space), Heating Plant (minimal retail space), Casino Arena (they claim no intention of turning it into a Mall)... Padding the numbers from the begining. As I recall all the existing uses, retail/commercial/ENTERTAINMENT, were lumped together and came in at around 300,000 sqft. The newly created retail was to be around 100,000 sqft. Look at what's happening along the NEW Cookman Ave from Grand to Ocean. One small corner store. Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is one click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
