[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-09 Thread FleurDeLis
Werner, 
2 valuable words, completely developed city!  Asbury Park,
has already been completely developed, even though some of the still 
standing structures are blighted.  See Metropolitan and the Charms 
buildng.  That said, who are the owners of these two?  Are they paying 
taxes and if not, why hasn't the city/Bank,  seized them? I don't 
understand how for decades, 2 significant structures were allowed to 
fester and fall apart?

The group, now in office, have done nothing, as far as I can see, to 
turn this around!  Who loses?  WE lose!  It's no wonder why we get the 
rep, we have!  I saw Police, everywhere, last night, 10:30PM, on my way 
home.

Question:  Why was an auto, allowed to be on the sidewalk, next to the 
hot dog stand, at the Saint?  (facing Main St., on the wrong side of 
the street).  A patrol car, was stopped at the light and when it turned 
green, went on, like this was normal?  If this was a block away, on the 
west side, I wonder, what the reaction, would be?  It was one of 
those Element (black), looking vehicles. 

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  Oak Bluff Drive - if no ne got it yet - Im just going through the  
  days posts.
  
 =
 
 Avenue it is - congratulations Tommie - Now if you could only grasp 
 the signiifcance and value of open space (Green Acres) in a 
completely 
 developed City
 
 Werner





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread dfsavgny
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 Nice find Dan - What are you doing poking around in History? :-)
 

My favorite subject. I am just not trapped by it. Did you see the
photos I posted too?

Hmm, the Lake View House stood where the DPW bldg now is.

Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread rook782

Something like Woods Drive?

dfsavgny.. wrote:

 
Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread wernerapnj
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 Something like Woods Drive?
 
 dfsavgny.. wrote:
 
  
 Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?

-

Oak Bluff Drive - if no ne got it yet - Im just going through the  
days posts.

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread apoojo
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 Oak Bluff Avenue.
 
 I'm not sure though if that was a proposed name or if it actually 
 bore that name for a period of time.
 
 close but no beer for you i believe it was oak bluff drive
 
 
 
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  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ 
 wrote:
   Nice find Dan - What are you doing poking around in History? :-)
   
  
  My favorite subject. I am just not trapped by it. Did you see the
  photos I posted too?
  
  Hmm, the Lake View House stood where the DPW bldg now is.
  
  Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread wernerapnj
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 Oak Bluff Drive - if no ne got it yet - Im just going through the  
 days posts.
 
=

Avenue it is - congratulations Tommie - Now if you could only grasp 
the signiifcance and value of open space (Green Acres) in a completely 
developed City

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread justifiedright
Hi Dan the Man,

That's an 1877 Map showing Oak Bluff Avenue.  What has me using some 
caution is that I have later maps (for instance an 1890) that doesn't 
even show the road built yet.

Probably needs some research beyond looking at Maps for the answer.

Werner?




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  Oak Bluff Avenue.
 
  I'm not sure though if that was a proposed name or if it actually
  bore that name for a period of time.
 
 
 
 Oooh! Another Hershey Bar for the local kid.
 
 See new photo uploaded = deal lake drive map





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread dfsavgny

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Oak Bluff Avenue.

 I'm not sure though if that was a proposed name or if it actually
 bore that name for a period of time.



Oooh! Another Hershey Bar for the local kid.

See new photo uploaded = deal lake drive map






[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread rook782
Yeah Tom, come on, green acres is the place to be, temporary kiosks
they are not for
me..
...Tommie we love you but give us that ocean breeze.

 wernerapnj@ wrote:

 Avenue it is - congratulations Tommie - Now if you could only grasp 
 the signiifcance and value of open space (Green Acres) in a completely 
 developed City
 
 Werner





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  wont even ask you 2 looking at maps the name of Park 
 ave. before it was changed?



Present day Park Ave was originally Grand Avenue. It ran from Oak
Bluff Ave and Corlies (now 8th Ave) south to Sunset Ave. The southerly
part of Grand Ave from 5th Ave south is in the same place it is now.
The northerly part of present day Grand Ave from Sunset to oak Bluff
Ave (Deal Lake Drive) was named Packard St. I guess sometime after
(when they built the Grand Ave Bridge) they switched the streets so
Grand runs as it does now and renamed it to Park and retired the
Packard name.  



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread justifiedright
Cool.  

What I really found interesting was the detail in the one you posted 
about the fire.

Compare that to a modern AP Press report.


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 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Hi Dan the Man,
  
  That's an 1877 Map showing Oak Bluff Avenue.  What has me using 
some 
  caution is that I have later maps (for instance an 1890) that 
doesn't 
  even show the road built yet.
  
  Probably needs some research beyond looking at Maps for the 
answer.
  
  Werner?
  
 
 You still get your Hershey Bar. See 1903 NYT Article uploaded.
 mentions the boat house on Oak Bluff Avenue.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread justifiedright
I looked at an old map and it says Ave.  

2 Beers for me.

Still unsure if it was built with that name though.

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 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright 
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Oak Bluff Avenue.
  
  I'm not sure though if that was a proposed name or if it 
actually 
  bore that name for a period of time.
  
  close but no beer for you i believe it was oak bluff drive
  
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
  
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ 
  wrote:
Nice find Dan - What are you doing poking around in 
History? :-)

   
   My favorite subject. I am just not trapped by it. Did you see 
the
   photos I posted too?
   
   Hmm, the Lake View House stood where the DPW bldg now is.
   
   Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?
  
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread justifiedright
Oak Bluff Avenue.

I'm not sure though if that was a proposed name or if it actually 
bore that name for a period of time.





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  Nice find Dan - What are you doing poking around in History? :-)
  
 
 My favorite subject. I am just not trapped by it. Did you see the
 photos I posted too?
 
 Hmm, the Lake View House stood where the DPW bldg now is.
 
 Trivia. What was the original name of Deal Lake Drive?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread dfsavgny
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 Hi Dan the Man,
 
 That's an 1877 Map showing Oak Bluff Avenue.  What has me using some 
 caution is that I have later maps (for instance an 1890) that doesn't 
 even show the road built yet.
 
 Probably needs some research beyond looking at Maps for the answer.
 
 Werner?
 

You still get your Hershey Bar. See 1903 NYT Article uploaded.
mentions the boat house on Oak Bluff Avenue.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Hi Dan the Man,
  
  That's an 1877 Map showing Oak Bluff Avenue.  What has me using 
some 
  caution is that I have later maps (for instance an 1890) that 
doesn't 
  even show the road built yet.
  
  Probably needs some research beyond looking at Maps for the 
answer.
  
  Werner?
  
 
 You still get your Hershey Bar. See 1903 NYT Article uploaded.
 mentions the boat house on Oak Bluff Avenue.

Sorry, tommy i stand corrected looked at postcards instead of maps, 
owe you 2 beers, my 1898 and 1905 map indicate oak bluff ave didnt 
check them all, the first map i found quickly saying deal lake drive 
is marked 1915,  wont even ask you 2 looking at maps the name of Park 
ave. before it was changed?




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread justifiedright
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  Oak Bluff Drive - if no ne got it yet - Im just going through the  
  days posts.
  
 =
 
 Avenue it is - congratulations Tommie - Now if you could only grasp 
 the signiifcance and value of open space (Green Acres) in a 
completely 
 developed City
 
 Werner

The value of open space?

Werner I've read literally hundreds of testimonials and people's 
reminiscing about Asbury Park.  I've read where the recall fondly the 
Ocean, the rides, the amusements, the restaurants, the concerts.

Do you know what I've never read?  This:

My fondest memories of Asbury Park were those little empty spaces in 
the middle of the Boardwalk where you couldn't do shit.  Yea, that's 
what I liked.  I could just stare and stare at those little empty 
spaces all day long.  Book me another trip back to Asbury Park, Baby!  
I just have to go look at those little blank spaces between the 
amusements where you can't do a dammed thing.  Wooo Hooo!! Good 
Times!!!

Good grief.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread Jennifer
I love your song.  May I be Eva?  N Asbury Park is where I'd 
rather be.  Sandy Hook is not for me.  I just adore a pavilion view.  
Darling I love you, but give me Fifth avenue

Green Acres - the act is not the same as Open Space although Open Space 
can be Green Acres.  Turtle Back Zoo is a green acres space.  Many 
towns use green acres for sport fields.  Many historical sites are 
green acres.  People often confuse the two acts, but while they may 
both apply to some properties they can also apply individually to 
others.  

Jennifer



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread rook782
For some reason, I think I remember Packard as the maiden name of
Bradley's wife.





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   wont even ask you 2 looking at maps the name of Park 
  ave. before it was changed?
 
 
 
 Present day Park Ave was originally Grand Avenue. It ran from Oak
 Bluff Ave and Corlies (now 8th Ave) south to Sunset Ave. The southerly
 part of Grand Ave from 5th Ave south is in the same place it is now.
 The northerly part of present day Grand Ave from Sunset to oak Bluff
 Ave (Deal Lake Drive) was named Packard St. I guess sometime after
 (when they built the Grand Ave Bridge) they switched the streets so
 Grand runs as it does now and renamed it to Park and retired the
 Packard name.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark - Trivia

2008-02-07 Thread rook782
Well, I eat right, exercise, and take one a day.



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  For some reason, I think I remember Packard as the maiden name of
  Bradley's wife.
  
 
 You look great for your age.





 
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