[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite the improvements to the BW that MM/partners or whoever has made. I am still deeply troubled. I came to this conclusion almost 4 years ago and have tried to dissuade myself. I can't escape it however. Things will not go right until Partners leaves or has an epiphany. MM may lose patience as it loses more money. Metro is fed up with them as is probably the city. I met with the BCH people this morning on a NYC matter. Ultra deep pockets. They spoke to Partners and MM. They have no use for Partners. Don't believe a word they say. They are of the opinion that the city took it on the chin in this deal. I am passed placing blame. Somehow Partners has to go. Don't get me wrong - I recognize and welcome many of the improvements over the past year. What I am afraid of is that it will dry up and wither as soon as MM has had enough. Not that MM is a white knight, but I know what life and progress was under Partners alone. Hopefully I am wrong, but when I see extremely successful real estate people all come to the same conclusion my fear is reinforced. == Thanks for the insights Dan, I guess either one 'sees it' or doesn't. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
I'm inclined, no, convinced of what you state and you state it clearly! Coming from you, who I consider reliable AND honest, I take you at your word! Thanks for simplifying, what I already thought! I consider what you state, to be the truth and nothing else! You're like E.F. Hutton! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite the improvements to the BW that MM/partners or whoever has made. I am still deeply troubled. I came to this conclusion almost 4 years ago and have tried to dissuade myself. I can't escape it however. Things will not go right until Partners leaves or has an epiphany. MM may lose patience as it loses more money. Metro is fed up with them as is probably the city. I met with the BCH people this morning on a NYC matter. Ultra deep pockets. They spoke to Partners and MM. They have no use for Partners. Don't believe a word they say. They are of the opinion that the city took it on the chin in this deal. I am passed placing blame. Somehow Partners has to go. Don't get me wrong - I recognize and welcome many of the improvements over the past year. What I am afraid of is that it will dry up and wither as soon as MM has had enough. Not that MM is a white knight, but I know what life and progress was under Partners alone. Hopefully I am wrong, but when I see extremely successful real estate people all come to the same conclusion my fear is reinforced. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
Being able to get Paramoiunt up and Running was great. It foes bring people in. People spend money IF u get them to stay overnight OR lure them to other businesses in the city. Do they stop at DD or Franks or MCd or come downtown? ASK the business owners - do they want NOTHING on the boardwalk or for now, hopefully get spillover from someones elses promos on the BW. Typlcially the venue gets minimal $ off the event. They get rent and maybe a % of sales. now it takes what to lure someone to put a show on in AP?? Thats where the venue has to charge enough in extras - like BEER . Thankfuly, most of those tacky banners were removed this summer. Last year, under partners, there were more coors banners strung everywhere. People come to AP They see it clean. (call it smoke and mirrors but it is what it is). What happens next. People start asking how much is this house or that condothen maybe you get wila new resident. Maybe somone like Jack or Dan or have chuztpah to stand up and make a difference. To call it like it is. So efforts of MM wil come out over the next few years - they will now if and when they get a return on their/theuir partners investments. They even managed to make the 4th ave pavill look clean - even though offices dont belong on ground level retail on a boardwalk. That to me was real, real stupid. Prime retail space. And no public restrooms.showers...dumb dumb. Events bring people. people will spend money. Hopefully in AP and not before they reach AP or leave AP. One step at a time. Sometimes back, sometimes forward Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one? Werner agreed, Actually, it looks like sh*t. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And no public restrooms.showers...dumb dumb. == Every Pavilion should have a requirement to provide public rest rooms. Or perhaps every other Pavilion geographically. I saw no replies to my observation of portable toilets on the boardwalk. The ConHall public restroom facilities are still not restored. Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
Got my vote on that Werner! Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
I think we all agree that Asbury Partners sucks. So why isn't there a group like SUFA to get them out? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one? Werner agreed, Actually, it looks like sh*t. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Static
Anyone agree that having portable toilets on the boardwalk is not in the best interests of the City? Or am I alone on that one? I'll agree with you there! I thought it was fine the first year or two, but by that point, you'd think something more perminate would be visiable. The first ave pavillion at least has working ones, behing the Empress. Where exactly are the bathrooms in CH? I don't think i've ever seen them. I do see LOTS of work going oin on the storefronts in side the arcade area of the hall. Lots of new renovated spaces, with openings soon i assume.. The raised concrete floor on the eastern side of the aracde hall has been jackhammered out. Not sure why, maybe under floor pipe work, or some other installations. Not sure __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
