[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
You're right! You get wisecracked at, made fun and light of, feel foolish for speaking, because 1) You will be ignored and made to look stupid and foolish and 2) If you protest their behavior or lack of interest, you get walked out! So speak up all you posters who don't attend or live here! It's easy for you. The residents get thrown in jail or shut down by the FCC, if you DARE broadcast negative OPINIONS! Isn't it odd, that the one councilman vilified for speaking up and not going along, is treated the SAME way? He keeps us informed as to what the agenda is, KNOWS he's beating a DEAD HORSE, so it's the residents who DO speak up, that they sick the authorities on us! I realize you mean well, but come on down and sit in and see if what I've said isn't true! I like the case for an internet forum, but like a lead balloon! We've been down this road before. I'm as guilty as anyone that doesn't attend. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there's something archeic about the way that you can only have your voice heard if you attend a council meeting. In a best case scenario, the city would have a stronger web presence in which they'd have a forum just like this one that the council is fully aware of, and a web liason who communicates the info gathered from the forum. Also, I tend to think that many people have been turned off by attending an actual council meeting. I certainly was. It felt like a complete waste of my time. Actually, let me restate that. The only person who attempted to make a connection with anybody at the council meetings I attended was Jim Keady. The rest of them just sat there blankly staring at the people giving presentations. Maybe that's changed. Hopefully it has. I also realize that our city can barely manage a partially built website, so calling for a stronger web presence is just folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: Jack, I understand your work schedule, but at my last tally, (a few days ago) there were 339 NON-BOUNCING members in this group. Not all group members are residents, but I am willing to bet that many are. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
Smoke blown up where? Where there's smoke, there's fire! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had the freedom in my life to attend council meetings, I would, despite how I feel about them in our city. The bottom line for me is that our council has given more power to MM then they should have. The cities administration should be in charge, not MM. But, to me it appears that the council looks at MM with stars in their eyes, and it's blinding them to reality. Too many people are blowing smoke up MM's ass without holding them accountable for some of the BS they are getting away with, such as the band shell issue. And it's easy for MM to get away with it, because the city is desperate for things to look better then they have in years Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... == Thank You - Told You So.. (Not directed at you Jack) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/WernerAPNJ/ Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Thanks - Told You So (Not directed at you Arcman) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/WernerAPNJ/ Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would if I could, but I don't live there... You need to attend the Council meetings and demand answers! = One only receives blank stares and lip service. Then a dead body is reported in your basement, your home is raided, condemnation proceedings initiated, code violations issued, money sucked out of you, incarceration, attoneys quit, more summones.. You wish you could participate in the public process ?? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thought about the Stone Pony... How come the sidewalk on the northern side of the building wasn't done the right way H... I think we all know what's coming, or rather going. i've been thinking they need a permanant sidewalk by the stone pony for a while. and chew on this: take a look at the new sidewalk going in by the sewage treatment plant on 7th avenue. its a PERMANENT matching sidewalk, consistant with the rest of the permanent sidewalks going in at the oceanfront... why? because the sewage plant is being finished, and thats whats going to stay there... so why bother putting in a sidewalk that needs to be taken out. just put in the permanent one. and this new sidewalk isnt connected to any other new sidewalks, its probably just gonna have blacktop leading up to it from the other sidewalks which will be replaced in coming years as projects get completed. the stone pony as we know it obviously isnt in their future plans, otherwise they would have taken the opportunity to put in the real sidewalk when the other one was ripped up (and it wasnt like they rushed in this temporary sidewalk when they ripped out the old one either, there was no sidewalk for almost a month after the old one was taken out) also, still no repairs to the damage on the side of the building from ripping out those sidewalks. (and one more thing i'd like to rant about the stone pony... could they please take down that ugly coors light triangle sign which is bolted to the front of the building... that is the tackiest piece of shit on what should be a respected historical landmark) its probably only a matter of time before they release plans for the new Casino which is probably gonna include something like a 2500 capacity stone pony knockoff. and im not too sure why either, being that MM wants retail and entertainment on both sides of ocean avenue. steps need to be taken right now to make sure this doesnt happen, otherwise they'll get their plans done and it will be too late. same idea as finding out about the bandshell. now unfortunately, many of us dont live in AP so our voices are meaningless at council meetings... and many of us, including myself, unfortunately cant go because of work schedules during the week. but there must be other ways... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
Perhaps there's something archeic about the way that you can only have your voice heard if you attend a council meeting. In a best case scenario, the city would have a stronger web presence in which they'd have a forum just like this one that the council is fully aware of, and a web liason who communicates the info gathered from the forum. Also, I tend to think that many people have been turned off by attending an actual council meeting. I certainly was. It felt like a complete waste of my time. Actually, let me restate that. The only person who attempted to make a connection with anybody at the council meetings I attended was Jim Keady. The rest of them just sat there blankly staring at the people giving presentations. Maybe that's changed. Hopefully it has. I also realize that our city can barely manage a partially built website, so calling for a stronger web presence is just folly. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, I understand your work schedule, but at my last tally, (a few days ago) there were 339 NON-BOUNCING members in this group. Not all group members are residents, but I am willing to bet that many are. Why is it that the many pertinent issues voiced in this group are not voiced at the Council mettings? The educated answer to that is that people are not attending. I could take a day off monthly to drive down and hold hands with Rita to loudly say WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? But I would not affect anything because I am not a resident. I do listen to the Council meeting minutes (thank you Maureen) and I long to be a resident. I did not intend to single you out Jack, I was just lamenting over the lack of participation in the Council meetings in general. Residents of Asbury Park, make your voices heard! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Unfortunately for me, the council meetings and my work schedule are completely incompatible. There has to be a way to get this city to grow some balls and start demanding that MM stop acting like they own the city and can do whatever they want. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: I would if I could, but I don't live there... You need to attend the Council meetings and demand answers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there's something archeic about the way that you can only have your voice heard if you attend a council meeting. Its the law Jack. Council meetings are held in a specific format and order with an official record made of the proceedings. All comments made and actions taken are then the official legal record of the City. That is why I attend every public meeting possible, they are the official workings/processes of the City not rumour, half-facts, etc. Good conclusions are best made from the facts. Ad Hoc message boards, forums, etc, are great but do not qualify as having any legal weight. The also tend to spread opinion in greater quantities than reality. Not to say that a healthy discussion is undesirable :-) Great that Maureen is posting the actual audio so one can know what goes on. The only other option at this time would be to order transcripts. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
If I had the freedom in my life to attend council meetings, I would, despite how I feel about them in our city. The bottom line for me is that our council has given more power to MM then they should have. The cities administration should be in charge, not MM. But, to me it appears that the council looks at MM with stars in their eyes, and it's blinding them to reality. Too many people are blowing smoke up MM's ass without holding them accountable for some of the BS they are getting away with, such as the band shell issue. And it's easy for MM to get away with it, because the city is desperate for things to look better then they have in years --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Perhaps there's something archeic about the way that you can only have your voice heard if you attend a council meeting. === = Its the law Jack. Council meetings are held in a specific format and order with an official record made of the proceedings. All comments made and actions taken are then the official legal record of the City. That is why I attend every public meeting possible, they are the official workings/processes of the City not rumour, half-facts, etc. Good conclusions are best made from the facts. Ad Hoc message boards, forums, etc, are great but do not qualify as having any legal weight. The also tend to spread opinion in greater quantities than reality. Not to say that a healthy discussion is undesirable :-) Great that Maureen is posting the actual audio so one can know what goes on. The only other option at this time would be to order transcripts. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I had the freedom in my life to attend council meetings, I would, despite how I feel about them in our city. The bottom line for me is that our council has given more power to MM then they should have. The cities administration should be in charge, not MM. But, to me it appears that the council looks at MM with stars in their eyes, and it's blinding them to reality. Too many people are blowing smoke up MM's ass without holding them accountable for some of the BS they are getting away with, such as the band shell issue. And it's easy for MM to get away with it, because the city is desperate for things to look better then they have in years == Don't need to convince me of that ... Regarding the lights, I brought the issue up many, many times. I even got laughed at here for raising such s 'trivial' issue. The City ignored my official testimony at meetings... now we have what we have. In addition the Pony itself has horrendous perimeter lighting as do, the MM/AP offices, ConHall, North Beach, BCH...etc, etc. I warned that it would propagate and eventually get beyond controllable. Other communities have gone so far as to adopt lighting standard ordinances that are retoactive, forcing the removal of non-complient fixtures. They are much nicer and better comminities for their efforts. Don't hold your breaths for Asbury Park to address this rather simple and 'trivial' issue. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
I would if I could, but I don't live there... You need to attend the Council meetings and demand answers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
Another thought about the Stone Pony... How come the sidewalk on the northern side of the building wasn't done the right way H... I think we all know what's coming, or rather going.
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
It's a case of smoke and mirrors. Those lights are what you find at an airport, or a mall. Exactly what you'd expect from an organization that specializes in retail development. Welcome to our BS mall by the sea. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
Unfortunately for me, the council meetings and my work schedule are completely incompatible. There has to be a way to get this city to grow some balls and start demanding that MM stop acting like they own the city and can do whatever they want. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would if I could, but I don't live there... You need to attend the Council meetings and demand answers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The lights at the new Stone Pony parking lot
Jack, I understand your work schedule, but at my last tally, (a few days ago) there were 339 NON-BOUNCING members in this group. Not all group members are residents, but I am willing to bet that many are. Why is it that the many pertinent issues voiced in this group are not voiced at the Council mettings? The educated answer to that is that people are not attending. I could take a day off monthly to drive down and hold hands with Rita to loudly say WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? But I would not affect anything because I am not a resident. I do listen to the Council meeting minutes (thank you Maureen) and I long to be a resident. I did not intend to single you out Jack, I was just lamenting over the lack of participation in the Council meetings in general. Residents of Asbury Park, make your voices heard! Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately for me, the council meetings and my work schedule are completely incompatible. There has to be a way to get this city to grow some balls and start demanding that MM stop acting like they own the city and can do whatever they want. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: I would if I could, but I don't live there... You need to attend the Council meetings and demand answers! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, arcman210 acme87rangers@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: agreed and agreed. especially with the bandshell. something interesting is that it was never mentioned as an intention for them to restore and use the bandshell as part of their plan for this summer. yet still the 5th avenue pavilion was to be completely renovated. just because they've done a great job with alot of things this year doesnt mean they get to slip something like this under the rug. the bandshell situation needs to be made public. its time to demand some answers. Are absolutely ridiculous. Over bright. Obnoxious. Overkill. This has to stop. The city has given MM way too much leeway and power, and they are overstepping their bounds. Also, bicycles are banned on the boardwalk, but last night I saw some of the boardwalk redev people cruising along in the golf carts being more menacing then most bikes, while I was walking my bike. Finally, when is the city going to step up and either admit that the band shell has been eliminated, or that they are going to do something about it? There is no way that there is going to ever be a band shell with the roaring a/c unit above the glass place. Maybe MM thought that they'd leave restoring the band shell for later and then figure out what to do with the a/c unit, but i'm saying it's just not going to happen, and it's practically criminal. Something rotten is going on... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
