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This is but ONE of the reasons that benefits set aside for needy people and families, never reach those it's intended for. I thank you for sharing this but your cousin's in-law is a thief! There's a saying in the Black Community and in general: What goes around, comes around! I suffer from Catholic Guilt. I could never do anything like this and expect to get away with it. Trust me. Either he'll be found out and be arrested or as the old folks say; I hope nothing bad happens to him. Just remember, God is watching. So let him enjoy his ill gotten goods. It's people like him that give the poor and down trodden, a bad name. I didn't know States could add stipulations to receiving Federal Benefits. I know that in some states, you can't vote if you do certain crimes. The ACLU hasn't challenged this yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I agree 100% Sharon I believe there are ways you can legislate behavior in some manner, and some states do already In some states violent crime felons are not allowed to receive financial assistance, like food stamps and such Some states drug test etc I think there are a couple states that are requiring drug tests prior to getting benefits What I feel is the problem with government assistance is the loopholes and the ones who purposely take advantage of the system, here's an example, My cousins brother in law works full time completely off the books, gets unemployment (been on it for 74wks), and food stamps (receiving them for 40wks). His off the books job pays more than mine (which is ridiculous). And get this... the guy buys LOBSTER TAILS every week from Shop Rite with those food stamps. So he's making more than his actual job he was laid off from. He is collecting $1200 every 2 wks from unemployment (NJ Maximum) and he gets free food My cousin won't allow him in his house until he stops stealing from the taxpayers So what our elected officials really need to do is figure out how to close the loop holes and stop letting people take advantage of it.I don't have the answers, I wish I did though Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Sharon That is why my cousin has cut off contact with him, and many others in the family have as well, he is officially the family outcast, I'd personally kick his butt if ever saw him I don't think the states can stop federal assistance, but they can stop state assistance I didn't collect unemployment when I got out of the Marines. You can get it, and many do, but I was not laid off or fired from the military, my time was up, I felt guilty attempting to collect unemployment, and couldn't collect, thankfully I found work quick Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:02:08 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... This is but ONE of the reasons that benefits set aside for needy people and families, never reach those it's intended for. I thank you for sharing this but your cousin's in-law is a thief! There's a saying in the Black Community and in general: What goes around, comes around! I suffer from Catholic Guilt. I could never do anything like this and expect to get away with it. Trust me. Either he'll be found out and be arrested or as the old folks say; I hope nothing bad happens to him. Just remember, God is watching. So let him enjoy his ill gotten goods. It's people like him that give the poor and down trodden, a bad name. I didn't know States could add stipulations to receiving Federal Benefits. I know that in some states, you can't vote if you do certain crimes. The ACLU hasn't challenged this yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I agree 100% Sharon I believe there are ways you can legislate behavior in some manner, and some states do already In some states violent crime felons are not allowed to receive financial assistance, like food stamps and such Some states drug test etc I think there are a couple states that are requiring drug tests prior to getting benefits What I feel is the problem with government assistance is the loopholes and the ones who purposely take advantage of the system, here's an example, My cousins brother in law works full time completely off the books, gets unemployment (been on it for 74wks), and food stamps (receiving them for 40wks). His off the books job pays more than mine (which is ridiculous). And get this... the guy buys LOBSTER TAILS every week from Shop Rite with those food stamps. So he's making more than his actual job he was laid off from. He is collecting $1200 every 2 wks from unemployment (NJ Maximum) and he gets free food My cousin won't allow him in his house until he stops stealing from the taxpayers So what our elected officials really need to do is figure out how to close the loop holes and stop letting people take advantage of it.I don't have the answers, I wish I did though Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: But the vast majority that are on welfare or other government programs do not even try to better their situations. I dont know if that's true. But what I do know is we have created a system that has created generations of folks on assistance. Granted, there has been reform. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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This said it all! The business of low income and poor is big business. Fortunes are made off the misery of others. You sound like you have great kids. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: part of what Jim wrote... the guy who was drunk got visibly enraged. He burst into tears, screaming, ³JIM! I¹m 26 years old and I can¹t fucking read! I can¹t read! How can I get a job? I can¹t fucking read!² That is not his fault. He was failed by both his family (if one existed) and by the school system. In that moment, he felt safe to share that rage with me and it was controlled. In another situation, it might not be. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You make a lot of assumptions on why people are on assistance. Do you realize we're in a recession? Police, Firemen, Teachers and executives have lost their jobs and yes, there ARE a lot of one-parent, absentee fathers, drugged out mothers, teen moms, etc. How do you legislate behavior? Sometimes a foreclosure is the reason, too! What you propose is illegal and unconstitutional. The Constitution pertains to the poor, too! No need to change laws to suit you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: If they don't get decent grades (or at least passing), the family loses the funding. We are paying billions of dollars in tax money for assistance programs for people who could care less about improving themselves, all they are doing is passing the same problem on to the next generation. There are, of course, exceptions - people who have fallen upon hard times and are doing the best that they can. That is exactly what the programs are designed for. But the vast majority that are on welfare or other government programs do not even try to better their situations. Laws need to be changed so that if they want the assistance, they earn it. If they don't want to make the effort, they lose the assistance and are on their own to figure it out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I agree 100% Sharon I believe there are ways you can legislate behavior in some manner, and some states do already In some states violent crime felons are not allowed to receive financial assistance, like food stamps and such Some states drug test etc I think there are a couple states that are requiring drug tests prior to getting benefits What I feel is the problem with government assistance is the loopholes and the ones who purposely take advantage of the system, here's an example, My cousins brother in law works full time completely off the books, gets unemployment (been on it for 74wks), and food stamps (receiving them for 40wks). His off the books job pays more than mine (which is ridiculous). And get this... the guy buys LOBSTER TAILS every week from Shop Rite with those food stamps. So he's making more than his actual job he was laid off from. He is collecting $1200 every 2 wks from unemployment (NJ Maximum) and he gets free food My cousin won't allow him in his house until he stops stealing from the taxpayers So what our elected officials really need to do is figure out how to close the loop holes and stop letting people take advantage of it.I don't have the answers, I wish I did though Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 22:51:08 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... You make a lot of assumptions on why people are on assistance. Do you realize we're in a recession? Police, Firemen, Teachers and executives have lost their jobs and yes, there ARE a lot of one-parent, absentee fathers, drugged out mothers, teen moms, etc. How do you legislate behavior? Sometimes a foreclosure is the reason, too! What you propose is illegal and unconstitutional. The Constitution pertains to the poor, too! No need to change laws to suit you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jenni jenni@... wrote: If they don't get decent grades (or at least passing), the family loses the funding. We are paying billions of dollars in tax money for assistance programs for people who could care less about improving themselves, all they are doing is passing the same problem on to the next generation. There are, of course, exceptions - people who have fallen upon hard times and are doing the best that they can. That is exactly what the programs are designed for. But the vast majority that are on welfare or other government programs do not even try to better their situations. Laws need to be changed so that if they want the assistance, they earn it. If they don't want to make the effort, they lose the assistance and are on their own to figure it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: What I feel is the problem with government assistance is the loopholes and the ones who purposely take advantage of the system, here's an example, I used to work with a woman who we had as a secretary. she lives with the father of 14 year old kid, but never married. Why? Didn't pay. She knew enough that if you make under whatever the number is $34,000??. she gets more benefits - single with kid. We cut back her hours - really it was a gift we had her. Tough time answering the phone, could not type or use word, despite my efforts to teach her. We even let her take a full day to write one paragraph. I bought her books. She was more interested in watching reruns of price is right and still not getting it right. She had a part time job at pep boys. When we let her go, she was offered to go full time. But the person who couldn't add up two numbers for me, was sure as hell able to calculate the cost of going full time at PEP Boys at $13 per hour Her unemployment and working part-time was worth more to her then working full time. Then don't forget Mr. Obama's stimulus plan - that extra what - $50 per week for the unemployed. That was real motivation. She put that towards a bankruptcy filing to wipe out $48,000 in charge cards her and boyfriend (unofficial husband racked up). She asked me if it was worth it to spend $2500 to file. I tried to explain to her that that was one great investment. Spend $2500 to make $48,000. Her beer drinking not real spouse was sure to get a 5 ft flat screen tv. And of course she had also got suckered into a refi at 11% along the way. I spent some time with her to heelp her out of that. I really didn't want to. Unmployment was nice to her as well. She made sure to make her first trip to DisneyWorld while unemployed. She had the heart of gold, but had no office skills. I guess sometimes the monmouth county food bank has lobsters as well - maybe Thursdays. And to be clear, she was a white woman. People here seem to think everything is directed at group. So when we (or I get going) - it get's kind of hard when I who busted my ass since my first lemonade stand in 2nd grade to today, had gotten stuck with four non-paying tenants (you don't go to jail for not paying rent in america) - I had no one to turn to. Banks were shut down, despite having a ton of equity, the IRS could less (they don't don't reduce what you owe - if you have assets). If you don't pay your taxes, work off the books and hide it all, they you might be able to scam them. So yep, be ready. The system is out of whack. I think we are all for helping our neighbors. Maybe a thank you here and there would be nice. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Mucho dinero. The business of low income and poor is big business. I just said that the other day to someone looking to rent a building in AP for a program. We have people... but we need to be in the AP/Neptune area... the more people, the more they make. you get so many bodies per sq ft, per day. It's a good business to be in I hear... No, no not really How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. because that's not fair. some notes: NJ Department of Human Services Division of Family Development offers parents financial assistance to pay for some of the costs of child care. Parents must be income eligible and involved in a work, training or school related activity. - ecipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families may be able to receive assistance with child care expenses while participating in an approved work activity and also may be eligible for Transitional Child Care for up to 24 months after discontinuing TANF. HEAD START The Head Start Program in Monmouth County is administered by Acelero Learning. Acelero Learning Monmouth County Head Start provides child care for eligible children at several locations in Monmouth County. The program includes education, health screenings and nutritious meals. Home based services and a summer program are also available. Head Start also provides extended hours for working families. Families receiving TANF are automatically eligible for Head Start programs. I think they get around $6 million, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, so again you are still talking about the concentration of poverty/segregation. Here is the head start for Bergen County, it is in a couple of spots, none in the Northern part of the county and it runs from 845-345. That does not cover a lot of time for employment. http://www.bergencap.org/headstart.html --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. because that's not fair. some notes: NJ Department of Human Services Division of Family Development offers parents financial assistance to pay for some of the costs of child care. Parents must be income eligible and involved in a work, training or school related activity. - ecipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families may be able to receive assistance with child care expenses while participating in an approved work activity and also may be eligible for Transitional Child Care for up to 24 months after discontinuing TANF. HEAD START The Head Start Program in Monmouth County is administered by Acelero Learning. Acelero Learning Monmouth County Head Start provides child care for eligible children at several locations in Monmouth County. The program includes education, health screenings and nutritious meals. Home based services and a summer program are also available. Head Start also provides extended hours for working families. Families receiving TANF are automatically eligible for Head Start programs. I think they get around $6 million, Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, Don't blame me. Blame the directors. Apparently, no one has the common sense to see that they have a problem with hours. The real problem is, there are s many programs running against each other, competing for the same grants or getting dupe grant monies for the same stuff. Everybody wants a program. But in many cases, you need to have money to get money. Or need the space to begin with to get the money to get a program. you have homeless and homeless charities. And then there are the professional charities and programs. All out body hunting. Great article the other day. A judge was convicted along with 30 others for kids for cash -steering kids into programs run by his buddies - for kickbacks. Like the schools, you need bodies to keep the schools open. I can't tell you how many different groups I spoke to that want a charter school or similar program. I think the last program was for around $2m per school (maybe more)- first you need a building - that is school ready. Then you need one teacher within a district where the school is to be - to be part of the program. Out of that money, they need to have budget, plan etc... You can apply by whatever date is was, get denied, then apply again, hoping to get approved. Having a license to operate certain day programs in NJ is gold. They are valuable. I've had this what could be a great building in AP for sale for a client. NOw he's down to around $685,000. Big. 12,000 sq ft. Be a great building for city services - after school programs, special programs etc. Just needs some tlc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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That building would be great for youth programs considering the location to the HS Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:49:49 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, Don't blame me. Blame the directors. Apparently, no one has the common sense to see that they have a problem with hours. The real problem is, there are s many programs running against each other, competing for the same grants or getting dupe grant monies for the same stuff. Everybody wants a program. But in many cases, you need to have money to get money. Or need the space to begin with to get the money to get a program. you have homeless and homeless charities. And then there are the professional charities and programs. All out body hunting. Great article the other day. A judge was convicted along with 30 others for kids for cash -steering kids into programs run by his buddies - for kickbacks. Like the schools, you need bodies to keep the schools open. I can't tell you how many different groups I spoke to that want a charter school or similar program. I think the last program was for around $2m per school (maybe more)- first you need a building - that is school ready. Then you need one teacher within a district where the school is to be - to be part of the program. Out of that money, they need to have budget, plan etc... You can apply by whatever date is was, get denied, then apply again, hoping to get approved. Having a license to operate certain day programs in NJ is gold. They are valuable. I've had this what could be a great building in AP for sale for a client. NOw he's down to around $685,000. Big. 12,000 sq ft. Be a great building for city services - after school programs, special programs etc. Just needs some tlc. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: That building would be great for youth programs considering the location to the HS You and I might think that. But I contacted Interfaith Neighbors, sent letters to the city, chamber, school board (thanks to garret responded) , Habitat (they did come look) when I had it listed higher, Salvation Army (they really want to be on a highway), a couple church groups that have all the heart in the world and no money, someone that thought it make a cool house, someone considering a brewery, a gallery a few guys that needed warehouse space and someone that wanted to be closer to cookman. It historic if that means anything to anyone. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I still like the idea someone had on here awhile back. Make the assistance - section 8, welfare, food stamps, etc, contingent on the kids having acceptable grades. Also make it contingent upon the parents attempting to get work or better their lives in some way. If the pattern is broken, the problem will gradually be reduced, if not eliminated. The trouble is that it's passed down from one generation to the next, in rapid succession since a generation in this area is often 14-16 yrs. Stop rewarding teens for having babies, too. -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fancypaaantz Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 5:12 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, so again you are still talking about the concentration of poverty/segregation. Here is the head start for Bergen County, it is in a couple of spots, none in the Northern part of the county and it runs from 845-345. That does not cover a lot of time for employment. http://www.bergencap.org/headstart.html --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. because that's not fair. some notes: NJ Department of Human Services Division of Family Development offers parents financial assistance to pay for some of the costs of child care. Parents must be income eligible and involved in a work, training or school related activity. - ecipients of Temporary Assistance to Needy Families may be able to receive assistance with child care expenses while participating in an approved work activity and also may be eligible for Transitional Child Care for up to 24 months after discontinuing TANF. HEAD START The Head Start Program in Monmouth County is administered by Acelero Learning. Acelero Learning Monmouth County Head Start provides child care for eligible children at several locations in Monmouth County. The program includes education, health screenings and nutritious meals. Home based services and a summer program are also available. Head Start also provides extended hours for working families. Families receiving TANF are automatically eligible for Head Start programs. I think they get around $6 million, Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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then if the kids don't get good grades - then what? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...
dont have to be good grades but improvement and trying. when there is an incentive perhaps parents will make be involved and that is what is missing. A vicious cycle. As a liberal I acknowledge some of the failures of the Great Society and the welfare system. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: then if the kids don't get good grades - then what? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...
If they don't get decent grades (or at least passing), the family loses the funding. We are paying billions of dollars in tax money for assistance programs for people who could care less about improving themselves, all they are doing is passing the same problem on to the next generation. There are, of course, exceptions - people who have fallen upon hard times and are doing the best that they can. That is exactly what the programs are designed for. But the vast majority that are on welfare or other government programs do not even try to better their situations. Laws need to be changed so that if they want the assistance, they earn it. If they don't want to make the effort, they lose the assistance and are on their own to figure it out. -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dfsavgny Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:01 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read... dont have to be good grades but improvement and trying. when there is an incentive perhaps parents will make be involved and that is what is missing. A vicious cycle. As a liberal I acknowledge some of the failures of the Great Society and the welfare system. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: then if the kids don't get good grades - then what? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
