Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Chutzpah, Service and Duty
In a message dated 10/8/2007 9:20:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like I hit a nerve. Rather looks like I hit a nerve by pointing out the hypocrisy in your accusing others what you've done numerous times in print. You write nearly 700 words, and not one is about you helping Asbury Park. Yup 700 words. Posted at 9:07. And you took 12 minutes to count the words and post at 9:19, indicating little time to consider or absorb anything I've said. Verbosity leads to unclear inarticulate things. GWB 11/30/96 You have no sense of public service. Zero. Just keep complaining about us that roll up our sleeves and helpand how you don't kick in at all). Mere assertions, negative epithets and Swift boating, without any support. (I'm sure you'll write another 700 words about me, when the subject is about you You've just fulfilled the definition of tactics previously noted: “One popular strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. You've taken a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defend it while mocking and insulting the other. Your own comments about patriotism and service et al. are reckless and foolish, but this is all apparently part of the plan. However I won't take that bait: The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the argument. Provoking this anger was the one and only goal from the very beginning.” The record of anything I've said is available for careful public scrutiny, not just word counting. If there were a battle for hearts and minds, I'd feel secure in everything I've questioned or challenged. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Chutzpah, Service and Duty
In a message dated 10/8/2007 9:20:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have no sense of public service. Zero. Just keep complaining about us that roll up our sleeves and help. Partial list of people, trends and causes in AP which I support and have publicly touted. New investors some refer to as Carpetbaggers; Kate Mellina's Cleopatra Steps Out back then and columns now; Richard Virgilio's B Plot; Frank D'Alessandro's informative columns and posts. Restore Radio; Preservation activists; Paramount's interior restoration, BOE candidates who challenge the status quo; Restaurant Row Cookman Ave entrepreneurs; George Lister's reclamation of the 5th and Memorial corner. Pereaux and Harrison investors for their faith and risk-taking in AP. Crossroads food and music venue. Clementines and others in their fight against selective code enforcement; SUFA and Homeowners endorsements; Habitat's ReStore; Future Started Here ticket last election; Shep's early faith, investment, and promotions in AP; The Coaster's journalism, better and better each month; TriCity's cheerleading in the early years; Helen Pike's and Peter Lucia's commitment to researching and recording AP's history; The multiculturalism now welcomed in AP; APPD's and FD's quick responses; Louie, the bike guy's unique business; City Hall and Kiki support for civil unions; Garden State Equality; A Nieuw AP which eschews chauvinism and which recognizes tolerance is good business. Clearwater's contribution to tourism here. Eminent Domain when it is used as intended for the public's but not merely for private interests. JR's supporting for the BOE's decision to close schools for public safety at one point. The unjust jailing for code violations when violent criminals go free. Benefits for SPCA, Cancer, AIDS and Toys for Tots. There's more, but the above reveals no slavish adherence to any particular local team. None of the above offer any financial benefit or public status to me. What I support and what I criticize are cheered and booed by some of the same people. I like it that way. We also serve who challenge, question, write, and donate -- with no prospect for financial gain, tax advantages, pats on the back, public stature for any of it. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Chutzpah, Service and Duty
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:08:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AsburyCouple, When Rook criticized the Mayor's Ball (a new topic started by him if I recall), I simply, politely, asked him for his reasons why he criticized it since it raises money to help Asbury kids. Note well: I was even personlly mentioned in his post. Rook didn't respond. Mario did. He posted some links about waste in the lottery system (?). I asked him for a direct answer. As you can see, he won't answer, I answered in a simplified post here: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30370_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30370) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Chutzpah, Service and Duty
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:14:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But you have the NERVE to criticise the good people who vounteer to host and promoet the Mayors Ball, and give their hard earned money to Asbury kids. Don't attribute words to me I didn't make: I didn't criticize the ball or the people, just your hostility to someone's joking questions. _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30370_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/30370) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Chutzpah, Service and Duty
In a message dated 10/8/2007 11:51:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you think he meant? Anyone who's interested can find out at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) My last word here on this thread ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
