Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
Agree with you about the APP board. Scary and depressing. On Aug 11, 2011, at 1:31 PM, terrariumlife wrote: If you want to find the real potential racists, I think you need to head over to the APP.com article comment sections. There you can read between the lines and find some thinly veiled racism, as well as out right ignorance. I would focus my energy there, or, maybe not. It depends on how much you like going in circles with idiots. Anyway, Asbury Park probably has plenty of white liberal creative types that are out of touch with the rest of the town (and could maybe care less), but the people in this group seem to be quite concerned with the town as a whole, not just the boardwalk, etc. I always wish there was more good I could do. For one, I think that there should be many community gardens throughout the town that the people could take control of. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
Kidsofftheblock.bbnow.org I have sent this to every city official and every church in AP since 2009 Not a single response from anyone If I had the financial resources, I wouldn't need anyone to contact, I can only open my door to so many kids in AP (4 since I bought my house) I wish I could do more, I really do, but I do not think any of us on here deserve to be labeled racist Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: jwkeady j...@educatingforjustice.org Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 00:56:46 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Two young men shot in the streets and the conversation vacillates between Vespas, dogs and firearms. Seemingly no concern for the well-being of the young men, concern if their families need anything, etc. Why? Because the assumption is that they are black, they are gang members, and they got what they deserved. Now all those may be true, but none of that is confirmed and there does not seem to be a shard of concern about these two human lives. They could be innocent, they could have been walking home from work and caught a stray bullet, who knows. But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. Even if they were involved with gangs and were involved in criminal activity, the discussion should be about how we stop it at the root cause. Crime is up, we have shootings in the streets (again). Wake up. And since Oak may ask, my suggestions for dealing with these issues are the same as they were five years ago, but who wants to listen and implement? Remember, I was the fool that was asked to officially leave town by a fellow councilman (now Mayor) and a city director (Gilmour) for being honest about the gang problem in the city years ago. Let's be real, it's not politically popular - if you want to get re-elected, you don't help young black men in the ghetto to break the cycle of poverty and violence, you lock them up and show you're tough on crime. If it's a white kid from outside of AP that catches a bullet one day, maybe then someone might actually care and do something. Peace, Jim Keady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
I don't care? Really? You seem to make EVERYTHING into a black and white issue on here, when I rarely see anyone else mention cultural backgrounds (including this discussion until Mr Keady chimed in) Whatever, maybe I should just close my homes doors to kids in need since I don't care, maybe I should stop attending APHS school functions and events since I don't care, maybe I should stop helping out Mrs Evans (who lives in BWay) since I don't care Insinuating is just as bad as assuming This is coming from someone who has had their house robbed, bikes stolen, cars damaged, all by AP youths (none of which were african-american) since living here Unreal Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:05:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! How about some JOBS? I've notice for at least 2 years that CERTAIN people's kids get jobs, while those that LIVE here get the back of Asbury's hand! If you've moved here thinking that it's all Wonder Bar, boardwalk and Stone Pony, you've moved to the wrong place! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. 1. In general, there seems to be some crime problems in Asbury. 2. For some reason, people just can't grasp the concept of cameras. Meanwhile, Hinge pointed out that cameras on private citizens house caught the carjacking helping the police to a suspect. Maybe some lawyer will sue the camera guy for invading the suspects privacy because they didn't have a sign warning of cameras. the city HAS to install cameras in many parts of town. 3. Asbury has an image problem. It doesn't take a consultant to tell you that. Yes, it's come a long long way via private monies invested into businesses and homes. And there are those who wills say - who gives a shit if someone's afraid, let them go to avon instead... 4. The police and courts have their hands full. 5. And of course, the billions in fed and state aid that AP gets in one form or another. Please, tell me where it goes. I read the budgets and audit reports. Good night. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
I have never lived in NYC and NEVER compared NYC to AP Once again, you are confusing my posts with someone elses, just as you did a few weeks ago Yes I am white, I have grown up in black communities my whole life, Lakewood, New Brunswick and Newark, not fun for a scrawny white kid my bestman for my upcoming wedding is a black man, my groomsmen are black and hispanic I served in the Marines where there is no black and white, just green You are preaching to the wrong person, and I'd be more than happy to have you over to show you first hand how much I care and what I do I'm surprised by the ignorance Sharon, I always looked to your posts with the utmost respect, but not lately and not moving forward Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:32:02 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...and everything YOU post is why isn't AP not more like NYC? Didn't ask if you cared or not which is obvious you don't. I'm Black and proud of it. I lived through segregation in the South and survived it only to find another kind of racism here. It's no different here than what I left! There they call you the N word and get it over with so the fight begins! This forum is supposed to be about Asbury, what's wrong with it and what's right. It's a broken record but what do you care? Wasn't replying to you. Don't care for you, anyway. Your posts are always self centered! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: I don't care? Really? You seem to make EVERYTHING into a black and white issue on here, when I rarely see anyone else mention cultural backgrounds (including this discussion until Mr Keady chimed in) Whatever, maybe I should just close my homes doors to kids in need since I don't care, maybe I should stop attending APHS school functions and events since I don't care, maybe I should stop helping out Mrs Evans (who lives in BWay) since I don't care Insinuating is just as bad as assuming This is coming from someone who has had their house robbed, bikes stolen, cars damaged, all by AP youths (none of which were african-american) since living here Unreal Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: 2fast4u sharon_b283@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:05:21 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night ...And if it wasn't for the Blacks, they'rd be NO Billions for those in charge to eff up, okay? Like Jim says, nobody on this board cares, JUST because they're Black! How about some JOBS? I've notice for at least 2 years that CERTAIN people's kids get jobs, while those that LIVE here get the back of Asbury's hand! If you've moved here thinking that it's all Wonder Bar, boardwalk and Stone Pony, you've moved to the wrong place! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. 1. In general, there seems to be some crime problems in Asbury. 2. For some reason, people just can't grasp the concept of cameras. Meanwhile, Hinge pointed out that cameras on private citizens house caught the carjacking helping the police to a suspect. Maybe some lawyer will sue the camera guy for invading the suspects privacy because they didn't have a sign warning of cameras. the city HAS to install cameras in many parts of town. 3. Asbury has an image problem. It doesn't take a consultant to tell you that. Yes, it's come a long long way via private monies invested into businesses and homes. And there are those who wills say - who gives a shit if someone's afraid, let them go to avon instead... 4. The police and courts have their hands full. 5. And of course, the billions in fed and state aid that AP gets in one form or another. Please, tell me where it goes. I read the budgets and audit reports. Good night. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com *
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
I just brought my firearms to my house this past Sunday from my mothers Another house was robbed by me while the residents were home over the weekend, around 5pm it took place, I am not risking a thug coming into my home and hurting my fiance or animals. I've been contemplating applying for a concealed weapons permit Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:47:18 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Yeah, things are getting a bit ugly. It really bothers me to see boardwalk employees walking in the shadows to their cars between 10 and 11 at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: . The only problem I had last night in AP was almost getting run down crossing Ocean Ave when some guy on a red vespa came whipping around the Empress onto ocean ave... As I overheard one cop tell someone - watch yourselves, stay in well lit areas and if you don't have to go to Long Branch or Asbury, then don't, cause it's out of control. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
A GTS 300 goes for around 5800-6000 and its a beast Something like a S 50 would run somewhere around 3K Those are brand new prices, not used, and from February when the purchase was made Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:24:37 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night What's the ballpark price of one of those? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: no - I was punching in the hours on the meter. heard the buzzing coming buy... looked up and there you go... for the record, it was not a Vespa, but a 2009 Stella which for all intents and purposes, is an old Vespa PX150. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
If possible a quick jab with your index/middle fingers to the adams apple will render your attacker useless My dog is also available for borrowing Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:08:14 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what they want. Your car, wallet, etc is not worth it. If it is not a mugging and they are trying to take you- do not cooperate. Kick, scream (CALL 9-1-1), use that key to jab in eye, and do whatever you can to not be removed from where you are! Lay on your back kicking so you cannot be lifted (like a toddler), make as big a scene as possible! At least that's what I would do. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: And stay in well lit, busy areas! More cars and people the better. Walk as little as possible in residential areas, and always try to walk in front of a business if there is a choice. When I was at NYU (early 90s), kids always got mugged trying to cut through on 10th street (residential). If you took a longer route that kept you on Broadway and in front of businesses and you were OK. Walk on Ocean or the BW after dark, cross in front of the Berk Hotel, cross Kingsley, stay in front of Adriatic, etc. If you see something suspicious, change direction and go into the business. No where the little hotels are, the BB's... If you have to stay residential. Look up the block before you go see who is there, have one key in hand in pocket. And if you need to borrow my dog, let me know. he scares the crap out of most people. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
Trust me, my pitbull has kept a lot of people away from me, fiance and my house. So I think your dog will do the trick as well Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: fancypaaantz fancypaaa...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:36:39 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night I meant Know where. Typing quickly. I ran into a friend right after I rescued my dog and he laughed that it was a good AP dog, No one will F*** with you with that dog! Hee hee. I hope he is right! I was just feeling a lot better and more confident in AP too. It is a shame that the crime seems to be amping up again. I always try to be street smart no matter where I am, but it kind of stinks if I live only blocks from all this great stuff and I can't walk to/from by myself without worrying again. [Although most of the shootings do seem to be targeted and take place in that one area] --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: If possible a quick jab with your index/middle fingers to the adams apple will render your attacker useless My dog is also available for borrowing Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 20:08:14 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night And if it is just a mugging/jacking, cooperate and give them what they want. Your car, wallet, etc is not worth it. If it is not a mugging and they are trying to take you- do not cooperate. Kick, scream (CALL 9-1-1), use that key to jab in eye, and do whatever you can to not be removed from where you are! Lay on your back kicking so you cannot be lifted (like a toddler), make as big a scene as possible! At least that's what I would do. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: And stay in well lit, busy areas! More cars and people the better. Walk as little as possible in residential areas, and always try to walk in front of a business if there is a choice. When I was at NYU (early 90s), kids always got mugged trying to cut through on 10th street (residential). If you took a longer route that kept you on Broadway and in front of businesses and you were OK. Walk on Ocean or the BW after dark, cross in front of the Berk Hotel, cross Kingsley, stay in front of Adriatic, etc. If you see something suspicious, change direction and go into the business. No where the little hotels are, the BB's... If you have to stay residential. Look up the block before you go see who is there, have one key in hand in pocket. And if you need to borrow my dog, let me know. he scares the crap out of most people. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
We just got lights for our bikes Memorial Day wkend, its very nice riding at night But I have noticed since then, we're probably 2 of maybe 10 people we've seen using them Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:29:00 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: Many of the AP criminals do their crap on stolen bicycles. One part of the solution would be to require all bikes in AP to be registered. This would probably lead to lot's of stolen bikes being impounded and/or returned to their owners, and it would help take away a tool used by criminals. I know for a fact that my neighborhood is full of bike riding drug dealers. They do not, and should, vigorously enforce that bikes at night must have head and tail lights, not just reflectors. I thought I saw the return of a bicycle cop last week but I may have been mistaken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
Jack do you have a website for them? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:33:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight to go along with the taillight of the same name. You can either charge them via USB or solar cell. Both are tiny, super bright and you can put them in your pocket when you park your bike. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Many of the AP criminals do their crap on stolen bicycles. One part of the solution would be to require all bikes in AP to be registered. This would probably lead to lot's of stolen bikes being impounded and/or returned to their owners, and it would help take away a tool used by criminals. I know for a fact that my neighborhood is full of bike riding drug dealers. They do not, and should, vigorously enforce that bikes at night must have head and tail lights, not just reflectors. I thought I saw the return of a bicycle cop last week but I may have been mistaken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
Thank you sir! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hing...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:40:35 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=Blackburn+Fleax=0y=0 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Jack do you have a website for them? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hinge hinge98@... Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:33:20 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Absolutely. I saw 2 AP bike cops the other day. I just bought a Blackbury Flea headlight to go along with the taillight of the same name. You can either charge them via USB or solar cell. Both are tiny, super bright and you can put them in your pocket when you park your bike. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Many of the AP criminals do their crap on stolen bicycles. One part of the solution would be to require all bikes in AP to be registered. This would probably lead to lot's of stolen bikes being impounded and/or returned to their owners, and it would help take away a tool used by criminals. I know for a fact that my neighborhood is full of bike riding drug dealers. They do not, and should, vigorously enforce that bikes at night must have head and tail lights, not just reflectors. I thought I saw the return of a bicycle cop last week but I may have been mistaken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
I've been reading bits and pieces of this thread. And, of course, I no longer live in Asbury, even though I do love the place so much! One thing that has come to mind. I remember when I rented an apartment in Asbury, many moons ago, that before I could move in, an inspector had to come out and give an approval for a c/o. The place was approved fine, but it occurred to me that if this was still being enforced - and being enforced on the west side just as much as the east - that it would force out the slum lords, which would in turn force out many of the tenants who instigate the crimes. Does anyone on here know if this is still a requirement, or if it is at all being enforced? Generally speaking of course, if the landlord takes pride in the property and keeps it fixed up, it attracts a better class of resident. Just my two cents! Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:15 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night Jim, I think you may be pushing it with the comment: But for many on this list, again, the assumption is that it's just another young n-gg-r shot in the ghetto. 1. In general, there seems to be some crime problems in Asbury. 2. For some reason, people just can't grasp the concept of cameras. Meanwhile, Hinge pointed out that cameras on private citizens house caught the carjacking helping the police to a suspect. Maybe some lawyer will sue the camera guy for invading the suspects privacy because they didn't have a sign warning of cameras. the city HAS to install cameras in many parts of town. 3. Asbury has an image problem. It doesn't take a consultant to tell you that. Yes, it's come a long long way via private monies invested into businesses and homes. And there are those who wills say - who gives a shit if someone's afraid, let them go to avon instead... 4. The police and courts have their hands full. 5. And of course, the billions in fed and state aid that AP gets in one form or another. Please, tell me where it goes. I read the budgets and audit reports. Good night. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night
No, race has nothing to do with it, and wealth doesn't always either. When I was a landlord (a house in MD that I co-owned), I was extremely cautious about who I rented to. I wanted references, and wanted to ensure that their previous dwellings were left in good shape, that they were not trouble in any way. Now I am sure that there are people who commit crimes that also are very nice tenants, but I think that is not common. It would seem that if the landlords have to fix the place up, they would be very concerned about it being kept nice, so would be more inclined to screen applicants carefully. Jenni -Original Message- From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of oakdorf Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:45 PM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Two more shootings last night as a landlord, you can get he place ready for a co and pass - then the tenant moves in. Sometimes you get good tenants - and sometimes not, And that doesn't matter rich or poor nor by race. And the system doesn't make easy to evict a tenant either. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
