Re: [Assam] Flowers etc.
Thanks PG. Did you notice in one of the photos of the hills (you would have to see it enlarged), there seems to be a cross and a face on the hillside? On 7/10/08, Phanindra Goyari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nice pictures.. > > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/FlowersEtcBloreKodaiMadurai > > > > This time we had the opportunity to visit Bangalore, Kodaikanal, > > Mamallpuram > > and Madurai. > > > > I took some photos - amature stuff. In Bangalore and also in Kodai, > > Mamallapuram, we noticed the landscape dotted with what the locals call > > the > > 'Gulmohor' trees. > > > > We thought the flowers looked like Krishnasuras. > > > > Hope you all enjoy them > > ___ > > assam mailing list > > assam@assamnet.org > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > > > * > Phanindra Goyari > Senior Lecturer > Department of Economics > University of Hyderabad > Central University -PO > Hyderabad- 500 046 > Andhra Pradesh (India) > > Phone- +91-40-23133118 (Office) >+91-9440-504802 (Mobile) > Fax- +91-40-23010147, 23012050 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * > > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Fw: Poor Editing
Hehehe..I think Kar babu is pulling our legs.I think, all he wants is a massage - he has repeated it several times, and the concern about them arrow heads is just incidental. anyway thats what I read between the lines.. R On 7/10/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nomoskar Kar Babu: > > Aasun , chole aasun taraataari. Assamnet needs you. Only problem is > that we don't have a mother here to spoon-feed us by picking the > arrowheads clean. Here is a little hint however: If you go to the > web and look up the archives you won't be assaulted by all those > flying arrowheads >>. I am no I-tecchie, so can't quite explain > why the bodiless arrowheads appear, but they indicate the age of the > mail. Each generation of an older piece creates a new > , to warn > you that it is stale material. First generation paragraphs appear > without them, if you have not noticed. > > But if you must have them arrowheads picked clean, that could be done > I guess. I don't know what > Dr. Jugal Kalita's hourly fees are, but my fear is that it is > something better not to inquire about. You know the saying, "If you > have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it" , don't you? In the > meantime, in the free service he provides us p'or folks thru > assamnet, we have to clean our own fish-bones and arrowheads too. > > Regards, > > A Fellow Netter > > > > > > > > > At 9:11 AM -0700 7/10/08, J Kalita wrote: > >Note: forwarded message attached. > >X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 68.142.206.137; > > Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:09:32 -0700 > >X-Originating-IP: [72.249.96.234] > >Authentication-Results: mta127.mail.re1.yahoo.com > >from=server.assamcompany.com; > > domainkeys=neutral (no sig) > >Received: from 72.249.96.234 (EHLO server.assamcompany.com) ( > 72.249.96.234) > > by mta127.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:09:30 > -0700 > >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server.assamcompany.com) > > by server.assamcompany.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > id 1KGyhU-0005dt-Rw > > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:38:56 +0530 > >Received: from web7602.mail.in.yahoo.com ([202.86.4.21]) > > by server.assamcompany.com with smtp (Exim 4.69) > > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1KGyhQ-00054I-G7 > > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:38:54 +0530 > >Received: (qmail 64971 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2008 16:08:42 - > >X-YMail-OSG: > > >ulHcTZkVM1ls1EdWBq8nDpvNlEek8J_a5J5YiLki2n9GDKwPMuGpDcjtC.q5nVnIY727sO.UPSw1SFhXySTYVZudLNp1tMTlwzMXcRbB1JiaWwjicg-- > >Received: from [117.198.48.219] by web7602.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; > > Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:42 BST > >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:42 +0100 (BST) > >From: ghana deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Poor Editing > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="0-458719385-1215706122=:64782" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 > >X-Spam-Score: -13 > >X-Spam-Bar: - > >X-Spam-Flag: NO > >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, > > please include it with any abuse report > >X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.assamcompany.com > >X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - assamnet.org > >X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] > >X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.assamcompany.com > >Content-Length: 864 > > > >Dear > > Manager, > > It would have been better if I were know your name. I'm enjoying > >every mail I'm getting for a month or so. The massages are very > >informative and thought provoking.I myself is waiting for joining in > >a thought provocative interaction. But I can't read all of them > >because of poor typing or editing from your side. Will you let me > >know why this is happening.Instead of a full-stop (.) one or more > >( > > >) separate sentences. It become heard to find where a mail > >get started and where it ends. Sometime it appears that same massage > >is getting repeated. > > Can you do better. I hope one day the group will be far popular > >among netizens. > > With thanks > > Sushanta Kar. > > > > > >pragyan_tsc50 > > > > > > > >- > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! > Group. > > > >___ > >assam mailing list > >assam@assamnet.org > >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > > > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Fw: Poor Editing
Nomoskar Kar Babu: Aasun , chole aasun taraataari. Assamnet needs you. Only problem is that we don't have a mother here to spoon-feed us by picking the arrowheads clean. Here is a little hint however: If you go to the web and look up the archives you won't be assaulted by all those flying arrowheads >>. I am no I-tecchie, so can't quite explain why the bodiless arrowheads appear, but they indicate the age of the mail. Each generation of an older piece creates a new > , to warn you that it is stale material. First generation paragraphs appear without them, if you have not noticed. But if you must have them arrowheads picked clean, that could be done I guess. I don't know what Dr. Jugal Kalita's hourly fees are, but my fear is that it is something better not to inquire about. You know the saying, "If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it" , don't you? In the meantime, in the free service he provides us p'or folks thru assamnet, we have to clean our own fish-bones and arrowheads too. Regards, A Fellow Netter At 9:11 AM -0700 7/10/08, J Kalita wrote: >Note: forwarded message attached. >X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] via 68.142.206.137; > Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:09:32 -0700 >X-Originating-IP: [72.249.96.234] >Authentication-Results: mta127.mail.re1.yahoo.com >from=server.assamcompany.com; > domainkeys=neutral (no sig) >Received: from 72.249.96.234 (EHLO server.assamcompany.com) (72.249.96.234) > by mta127.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:09:30 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server.assamcompany.com) > by server.assamcompany.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > id 1KGyhU-0005dt-Rw > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:38:56 +0530 >Received: from web7602.mail.in.yahoo.com ([202.86.4.21]) > by server.assamcompany.com with smtp (Exim 4.69) > (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1KGyhQ-00054I-G7 > for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:38:54 +0530 >Received: (qmail 64971 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2008 16:08:42 - >X-YMail-OSG: >ulHcTZkVM1ls1EdWBq8nDpvNlEek8J_a5J5YiLki2n9GDKwPMuGpDcjtC.q5nVnIY727sO.UPSw1SFhXySTYVZudLNp1tMTlwzMXcRbB1JiaWwjicg-- >Received: from [117.198.48.219] by web7602.mail.in.yahoo.com via HTTP; > Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:42 BST >Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:42 +0100 (BST) >From: ghana deka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Poor Editing >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-458719385-1215706122=:64782" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 >X-Spam-Score: -13 >X-Spam-Bar: - >X-Spam-Flag: NO >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, > please include it with any abuse report >X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.assamcompany.com >X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - assamnet.org >X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] >X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server.assamcompany.com >Content-Length: 864 > >Dear > Manager, > It would have been better if I were know your name. I'm enjoying >every mail I'm getting for a month or so. The massages are very >informative and thought provoking.I myself is waiting for joining in >a thought provocative interaction. But I can't read all of them >because of poor typing or editing from your side. Will you let me >know why this is happening.Instead of a full-stop (.) one or more >( > > >) separate sentences. It become heard to find where a mail >get started and where it ends. Sometime it appears that same massage >is getting repeated. > Can you do better. I hope one day the group will be far popular >among netizens. > With thanks > Sushanta Kar. > > >pragyan_tsc50 > > > >- > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group. > >___ >assam mailing list >assam@assamnet.org >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Fw: Poor Editing-- Really?
- well doctor?? -- You can! mmDate: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:11:43 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Assam] Fw: Poor Editing Note: forwarded message attached.--Forwarded Message Attachment--Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:42 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Poor Editing To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manager, It would have been better if I were know your name. I'm enjoying every mail I'm getting for a month or so. The massages are very informative and thought provoking.I myself is waiting for joining in a thought provocative interaction. But I can't read all of them because of poor typing or editing from your side. Will you let me know why this is happening.Instead of a full-stop (.) one or more ( > > >) separate sentences. It become heard to find where a mail get started and where it ends. Sometime it appears that same massage is getting repeated. Can you do better. I hope one day the group will be far popular among netizens. With thanks Sushanta Kar. pragyan_tsc50 - Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group. _ Wish to Marry Now? Join Shaadi.com FREE! http://www.shaadi.com/registration/user/index.php?ptnr=mhottag ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Grumbling GAME
>>> I have trouble with Asom . What in the heck is it, khai-ne-kaanot-pindhe'? How is it pronounced? Like perhaps as in Atom ? You didn't mean Oxom here did you :-)? Also, the example really has nothing to do with what a kharkhowa emigre can contribute or not to Assam's welfare. Buise Chandanda bulu bidexot thaki bapeke nijor dexor namtuo xudhokoi likhibo nuwara holu.I guess, I am influenced by The Editorial Board of The Sentinel :-) I tried ' oxom' first followed by' Axam' but those did't click.Nothing could convince them save ASOM. The Oxomiya emegres should set their house in order first by teaching thier mother-tongue to their children before embarking upon ambitious project of preserving Oxomiya culter,heritage and language.I JUST DON'T GET IT.And that is the pertinence here. By the way,at no point did I say that the NRA's are not allowed to speak about thier American experince.They can spend decade talking about that but the impact will be short-lived ( FLASH IN THE PAN ).One must remind them that there are vast differences between the two systems of governance.Allow me to give you an example.In American system,the entire state is geared to assist a person who wants to be an enterpreuner,whereas in Indian system the person will be made to run from pillar to post to get even a small thing done.He must carrot every single official to advance his file.Unless the entire system of governance is overhauled in Assam,nothing will work and for which a new brigade of leaders should be in order. Kamal On 7/8/08, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You do speak some truth here Kamal. I agree there have been such > 'experts', not only lecturing Assam, but also giving Assam's > know-nothing and do-nothing governments 'expert advice', heaven only > knows for what. > > > >( looking at their occupational profile and expertise level ), > > That is an accurate observation. Not necessarily an universal > truth--there ARE exceptions, but as a rule it stands. > > > > >Our coffee-table > >discussion may go on and on but nothing significant/ good will come out of > it. > > > But I disagree on the above and also about: > > > >particularly keeping American > scenario at the backdrop) > > > If NRAs from America speak about their experiences in America or > about what they learnt in America, that is NOT irrelevant. Not all > talk also is 'lecturing' --we have to be careful with the words and > phrases we use to characterize them, just as RAs like Swapnil do too. > The point is that we must be careful about making broad-brush > judgements culled from tiny samples. I realize that is a part of the > desi-culture that most of us still suffer from, not just RAs, NRAs > too. > > > > >The Asomiya emigres don't teach their descendants how to > >speak their native language and the same Asomiyas talk of soaking Asomiya > ' > nisukoni geet' in salt and vinegar for preservation-just in case > !!! A strange lot indeed. > > > I have trouble with Asom . What in the heck is it, > khai-ne-kaanot-pindhe'? How is it pronounced? Like perhaps as in Atom > ? You didn't mean Oxom here did you :-)? > > Also, the example really has nothing to do with what a kharkhowa > emigre can contribute or not to Assam's welfare. > > > > > > > At 10:58 PM -0500 7/7/08, kamal deka wrote: > >The piece written by Swapnil Bharali,although not a scholarly one,can't be > >dismissed as an infantile outburst nor can we brush aside some of his > points > >as tripe. > >The annually-held jamboree of the NRA's in Guwahati and frequent descent > of > >some NRA's on Asom's soil,flaunting themselves to be ' experts' ( or > >projecting themselves to be Napoleon of economics ) must have set many > >natives thinking that their so-called 'rich' and 'expert cousins' are, in > >fact,capable of casting a magic spell in the economic and intellectual > >development of Asom.I have felt a compulsive urge to demolish this > myth.And > >I would do that in a separate piece. > > > >The fact remains that the members of the Asomiya diaspora,living thousands > >of miles away ( looking at their occupational profile and expertise level > ), > >will not be able to make any significant dent in the area of Asom's > >economic/intellectual firmament.At the end of the day,it is the native > >Asomiyas who have to look after their own interest.Our coffee-table > >discussion may go on and on but nothing significant/ good will come out of > >it. > > > >In my humble opinion,delivering lectures ( particularly keeping American > >scenario at the backdrop) by some NRA's in Asom or putting out occasional > >statements by the same tribe in regard to Asom,s plight,can be seen as a > >flash in the pan.The Asomiya emigres don't teach their descendants how to > >speak their native language and the same Asomiyas talk of soaking Asomiya > ' > >nisukoni geet' in salt and vinegar for preservation-just in case !!! A > >strange lot indeed. > > > >KJ Deka,Sugarland,Texas
Re: [Assam] Assam & Corruption
The three letters have at least piqued one of the dollar-oxomiya's curiosity,causing him to write this mail,albeit incoherently:-) Never mind.The second position has already been guaranteed .Who else could that be other than those Omniscient MTKAs ( MTKA = masor tenga khuwa americans )? KJD On 7/9/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that Assam has the dubious distinction of being the most corrupt state > in one of the most corrupt countries in the world, maybe people might want > to concentrate their efforts in aiming for 2nd place. > > At the very least they could write high-flying articles in the AT and The > Sentinel and spearhead an 'anti-corruption' movement of sorts - you know, > instead of finding fault with clueless NRAs on lecture circuits and what > not > :) :) > > > > Below - 3 letters from some concerened citizens (RAs) in the Assam Tribune, > and one of them writes, > > "May be just 5 to 10 per cent people are there who are honest. They know > what's going on, but are silent observers" > > > > --Ram > > __ > > > > Assam at top > Sir, — Being an Assamese, I am so happy, glad and proud that at least in > one category, may be in the corruption category, Assam could secure top > place among all Indian States. Credit must go to some of our corrupt > politicians, some of our corrupt government officials, some of our corrupt > police personnel, some of our corrupt businessmen, some of our corrupt > public and mostly "not-concerned" attitude of the whole Assamese community. > Hope with efforts from all these and ourselves,we shall be able to > permanently cement the top position. —Yours etc., DR PRAFULLA C DEKA, > Noonmati, Guwahati. > > > > Assam – the most corrupt State > Sir,– This has reference to the letter 'Assam at top' by Dr Prafulla > Chandra Deka (AT, July 2). First of all, I would like to compliment him for > his style of presenting his concern over Assam, being the most corrupt > State > among all the States and Union territories in India. > > It's a matter of shame for the people of Assam. Almost in all the > government > offices, we can feel the presence of corruption. From the highest authority > to peons, everybody thinks of earning some extra money. May be just 5 to 10 > per cent people are there who are honest. They know what's going on, but > are > silent observers. If you don't pay, your file doesn't even move, but if you > pay some handsome amount, you will see your job being done. > > The problem with us is our attitude which has helped us to earn the dubious > distinction of the most corrupt State in the country. Our Chief Minister > says that there is corruption in all parts of India, and as Assam is also a > part of India, corruption is quite natural. But the question arises – why > can't we be different from others? Is it necessary that as other States are > corrupt so Assam should also be corrupt? The second important point is – > why > Assam is at the top? > > The only solution, as I feel, is public alertness. We have to do away with > our dirty habit of giving money to get our jobs done. Until and unless we > stop bribery, this problem will never end. A strong vigil on the corrupt > officials is very important. With evidences, matters should be reported to > the highest authority. If the highest authority is also of the same > character, immediately,it should be brougt to the notice of the > investigating agency. > > The need of the hour is to take some stringent measures to uproot this > evil, > or else, the day is not far when Assam will top the list of the most > corrupt > State in Asia, and gradually in the world. —Yours etc., PABITRA BHUYAN, > Parvati Nagar, Tezpur. > > (ii) > Sir,– Epimenides said, all creatures are liars. Can we not say now that all > Assamese are corrupt as Assam has topped the list of most corrupt States of > the country? In fact, the city of Guwahati is built on corruption. The > University of Gauhati can introduce a subject for research on this topic. > We > want to hear what our 'shining bright' Chief Minister, Tarun Gogoi has to > say on this now. —Yours etc., GAUTAM BARUAH, Uzan Bazar, Guwahati. > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Assam will have a “colourful” p resence in the Beijing Olympics.
Assam will have a “colourful” presence in the Beijing Olympics. Guwahati, June 27: Assam will have a “colourful” presence in the Beijing Olympics. A painting by city-based artist Utpal Barua — an associate professor in the department of design at IIT Guwahati — has been selected for Olympic Fine Arts, 2008, an exhibition which will run alongside the mega sporting event starting on August 8more details here: http://olympics1.blogspot.com/2008/06/guwahati-june-27-assam-will-have.html China warns Dalai over Olympics Living Expenses in China Experience China’s tasty food the Chinese way Great Wall of China Shopping in China China travel guide Travel to China - Airlines ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Flowers etc.
Nice pictures.. > http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/FlowersEtcBloreKodaiMadurai > > This time we had the opportunity to visit Bangalore, Kodaikanal, > Mamallpuram > and Madurai. > > I took some photos - amature stuff. In Bangalore and also in Kodai, > Mamallapuram, we noticed the landscape dotted with what the locals call > the > 'Gulmohor' trees. > > We thought the flowers looked like Krishnasuras. > > Hope you all enjoy them > ___ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > * Phanindra Goyari Senior Lecturer Department of Economics University of Hyderabad Central University -PO Hyderabad- 500 046 Andhra Pradesh (India) Phone- +91-40-23133118 (Office) +91-9440-504802 (Mobile) Fax- +91-40-23010147, 23012050 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Assam Association Faridabad meet
Assam Association Faridabad meet GUWAHATI, July 9 – Assam Association, Faridabad celebrated its first anniversary day on Sunday last at the banquet hall of Mahaluxmi Hotel NIT Faridabad. Quite a large number of people including ladies and children were present on the occasion.A meeting held on the occasion was presided over by Association chairperson Putul Saikiah. The meeting earlier began with a Saraswati Bandana, by Sanjukta Das and banti prajalan by...more details here: http://newsonnortheast.blogspot.com/2008/07/assam-association-faridabad-meet.html Kyndiah to contest Lok Sabha polls again Power thefts hit ASEB in Barak Valley Non-Mizo traders restive over ILP issue NE Education Ministers to deliberate on brain drai... Asam Sahitya Sabha University NE Vision 2020 Three in race for North-East airline ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Govt to facelift Kamakhya, Hajo to tap tourism potential
Govt to facelift Kamakhya, Hajo to tap tourism potential By A Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, July 9 – Assam being dotted with innumerable temples, mosques and monasteries, the State Government is focusing on the important pilgrimage centres to develop the places into attractive tourist destinations. The ambitious tourism development project of the State Government encompassing Kamakhya, the seat of Shakti worship and the satellite pilgrimage township of Hajo, is likely to...more details here: http://bigindians.blogspot.com/2008/07/govt-to-facelift-kamakhya-hajo-to-tap.html Govt to facelift Kamakhya, Hajo to tap tourism pot... 18 Guwahati Central Jail inmates sit for exams Majuli may miss place in Heritage List Samajwadi MP says 7 will vote against UPA Left withdraws support to UPA ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Fw: Poor Editing
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[Assam] Flowers etc.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rsarang22/FlowersEtcBloreKodaiMadurai This time we had the opportunity to visit Bangalore, Kodaikanal, Mamallpuram and Madurai. I took some photos - amature stuff. In Bangalore and also in Kodai, Mamallapuram, we noticed the landscape dotted with what the locals call the 'Gulmohor' trees. We thought the flowers looked like Krishnasuras. Hope you all enjoy them ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Samajwadi Party singing from Anil Ambani ’s playbook?
Samajwadi Party singing from Anil Ambani’s playbook? The idea to impose a ‘windfall tax’ on private refiners appears to be mooted by REL, part of the R-Adag K.P. Narayana Kumar New Delhi: Even as the ruling Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government faces pressure from its new-found saviour, the Samajwadi Party (SP), to impose a “windfall tax” on private refiners, it appears that the suggestion was mooted by Reliance Energy Ltd (REL), part of the Reliance-Anil Dhirubhai Ambani Group, last July in a presentation to a decision-making body of the government...more details here: http://bigbullrush.blogspot.com/2008/07/samajwadi-party-singing-from-anil.html Congress pushes for Ambani truce India heading for stagflation?MF takes downward ride with market Mutual funds continue buying ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors
>Like, the Indian PM seems to be eager to please >his emperor than explain things to the people of >India >first. Excellent point. That extraordinary reluctance was hard not to notice, except in the ranks of Indian media. At 3:32 PM +0530 7/10/08, uttam borthakur wrote: > >> No, not the very same American >Presidents (as they passed long time ago, sorry, >didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in >general could do that - be good Governors, that is. > > >Duarte, Idi Amin, Yahaya Khan, Pinochet, >Qaddafi, Musharaff, the head of the junta in >Myanmar... the list is promising. > >Or, it is only that Generals should be Governors >of the States/provinces and not Presidents/ Head >of the States? > >I think it is neither governor nor another >person that matters. It is not even he as a >person. It is the interest he represents. >Like, the Indian PM seems to be eager to please >his emperor than explain things to the people of >India first. The Left too seems fishy with their >two-timings. I do not know what package they >(the Left) are going to get by showing their >false braggadocio by pretending to oppose the >nuke deal and at the same time allowing enough >time to the supporters of the deal to garner >support so that the government may not fall and >the deal is ultimately through. > >Uttam Kumar Borthakur > >--- On Thu, 10/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam >To: "A Mailing list for people interested in >Assam from around the world" >Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 1:36 PM > >> So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors >for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!! >Could not help not to get in here again. > >Another example of taking things out of the context, rather, taking things >ligterally - big time. > >No, not the very same American Presidents (as >they passed long time ago, sorry, >didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in >general could do that - be good Governors, that is. > > > > > > >"In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and >humble like a blade of grass." > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jul >2008 20:48:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> >> > "Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent >American > Presidents."> > So?> "Excellent American >Presidents" will be good governors for Assam!!!> What a strange >logic!!!> What height of ignorance!!> Rajen Barua> > - Original >Message - > From: "Choudhary, H. N. - AMW - MUM" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people >interested in Assam from around the world" > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:20 AM> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > To govern needs >wisdom, courage conviction and leadership like that of > Akbar the Great. >Lesser human beings can possess these qualities in small > measure. Military >Generals in US Army have been making excellent American > Presidents.> >Therefore your comments " military generals, lightweight in more ways than >> one" are an expression of ignorance of historical facts.> > >Please do not make such comments. It hurts good people.> > Regards> >> Hemen N Choudhary> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9820125972> >> > > -Original Message-> From: Chan Mahanta >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 PM> To: >A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around theworld> Subject: >Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > Hi Alpana:> > While your >genuine humility is always refreshing,> it is perhaps not all that inspiring >as far as> your confusion about who would make a good> governor in Assam >and the contiguous Indian> holdings.> > If you have trouble deciding >whether> superannuated military generals, lightweight in> more ways than >one, or spooks and sekurity-wallas> whose world view are limited by their >legendary> desi-bureacratic intellectual confines, further> damaged by >their reliance on force rather than> dialogue for solving social unrests and >able> politicians or intellectuals willing to respond> to popular views >and needs are the right fit for> a region riven by politically rooted >violent> conflicts that have been going on for over half a> century; then >your commitments to a democratic> ethos needs serious re-examination, >don't you> think :-)?> > c-da> > > > > > > >> > > At 11:52 PM -0500 7/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >>IMO, it is indeed a scholarly piece, but sounds pessimistic.> >> >>Some portions are beyond my understanding and> >knowledge (like who >would be good as a> >governor), but as an ordinary person, I would> >>like to think that this is at least the> >beginning of the peace >process.> >> >Cheers!!> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >"In order
Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors
Ram -Da As I see it, you've correctly assessed the situation and the debate and postulated the correct answers in conventional wisdom. SB has used the theoretical tools at his disposal to deal with the situation. At the cost of repetition, I like to reiterate one point. No single person matters. Even a scoundrel would make a good governor if the interests (economic, social, political) he rerpesents themselves are noble and/or pro-people. He would be shown his place otherwise. And a Mahatma would be a lousy governor if those interests are not pro-people. Individual character would not matter substantially. Conjunction of historical elements, presence of a person at the right place at the right time and the interests that I refer to elevate some persons to heroic level, say, Alexander, Napoleon, Lawrence of Arabia, Jesus Christ, Julius Ceaser.. But the interests that they represented in their times is important. That is the reason why I was alluding to Manmohan Singh representing the interest of the Emperor overtly (come whatever may) and the Left too in effect aiding him with wrong timing of their political moves. The holier than thou Left too is representing its career interests than that of the people of India. However, I'm only saying what is paramount in their respective minds and not trying to statrt a debate on the nuke deal itself. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world" Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 4:53 PM Uttam - good points. Without having read what the Bard wrote (yet). :):). I would like to weigh in a bit. The US has had generals who became really good Presidents, and has had lousy runs from Presidents who ran away from military duties ( George Bush). But that is the USA. In the examples you cite, you might notice, they were all self-appointed (some for life, like Dada Idi Amin) generals. Heck, they could have been "God" in their countries if they wanted. In India, the generals would have had to go thru the normal military channels of promotions (much like the US), hence no self-appointed demi-gods. So, would generals in general make good Governors? I think it depends on the individual in question. Its a crap-shoot of sorts. In the Indian context, and more so in the context of Assam, it will be a crucial appointment. What are the choices: Since we still have a shaky UPA govt. at the Center, they will probably appoint: (a) A general - experienced in the internal strifes and military expeditionsin the state (b) A political lackey, probably corrupt CM from Bihar/UP/MP (c) A existing or former Governor from another state (d) A political appointee to appease some coalition.. The choices aren't that great. Incidentally, would FM Sam Manekshaw made a good Governor or a Gen. Cariappa? I seriously doubt Assam will be lucky to get a Person with a good track record in problem-solving - maybe a good diplomat or a career IAS/Union Minister. I keep hearing Renuka Choudhury is great. Maybe Assam needs a woman's touch? IMHO, in Assam's case, we need a Governor who really can really feel the pulse of the state. Assam needs a person who is sensitive to the needs of the region, works hard to achieve results, and finally is someone who is willing to boldly represent Assam's needs at the Center. Some "oppose" Generals Assam as they tend to think that a general might go for a military solution for the ULFA problem (as opposed to a political solution). That is probably the crux of the debate here. BTW: Even in the US, even though voters like military service in their Presidents, they still balked at suggestions of Gen. George Patton running for office. And today (as then), Gen. Patton is one of the most respected and celebrated military officers. --Ram On 7/10/08, uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, >> sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, that is. Duarte, Idi Amin, Yahaya Khan, Pinochet, Qaddafi, Musharaff, the head of the junta in Myanmar... the list is promising. Or, it is only that Generals should be Governors of the States/provinces and not Presidents/ Head of the States? I think it is neither governor nor another person that matters. It is not even he as a person. It is the interest he represents. Like, the Indian PM seems to be eager to please his emperor than explain things to the people of India first. The Left too seems fishy with their two-timings. I do not know what package they (the Left) are going to get by showing their false braggadocio by pretending to oppose the nuke deal and at
Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors
Ram -Da As I see it, you've correctly assessed the situation and the debate and postulated the correct answers in conventional wisdom. SB has used the theoretical tools at his disposal to deal with the situation. At the cost of repetition, I like to reiterate one point. No single person matters. Even a scoundrel would make a good governor if the interests (economic, social, political) he rerpesents themselves are noble and/or pro-people. He would be shown his place otherwise. And a Mahatma would be a lousy governor if those interests are not pro-people. Individual character would not matter substantially. Conjunction of historical elements, presence of a person at the right place at the right time and the interests that I refer to elevate some persons to heroic level, say, Alexander, Napoleon, Lawrence of Arabia, Jesus Christ, Julius Ceaser.. But the interests that they represented in their times is important. That is the reason why I was alluding to Manmohan Singh representing the interest of the Emperor overtly (come whatever may) and the Left too in effect aiding him with wrong timing of their political moves. The holier than thou Left too is representing its career interests than that of the people of India. However, I'm only saying what is paramount in their respective minds and not trying to statrt a debate on the nuke deal itself. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world" Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 4:53 PM Uttam - good points. Without having read what the Bard wrote (yet). :):). I would like to weigh in a bit. The US has had generals who became really good Presidents, and has had lousy runs from Presidents who ran away from military duties ( George Bush). But that is the USA. In the examples you cite, you might notice, they were all self-appointed (some for life, like Dada Idi Amin) generals. Heck, they could have been "God" in their countries if they wanted. In India, the generals would have had to go thru the normal military channels of promotions (much like the US), hence no self-appointed demi-gods. So, would generals in general make good Governors? I think it depends on the individual in question. Its a crap-shoot of sorts. In the Indian context, and more so in the context of Assam, it will be a crucial appointment. What are the choices: Since we still have a shaky UPA govt. at the Center, they will probably appoint: (a) A general - experienced in the internal strifes and military expeditionsin the state (b) A political lackey, probably corrupt CM from Bihar/UP/MP (c) A existing or former Governor from another state (d) A political appointee to appease some coalition.. The choices aren't that great. Incidentally, would FM Sam Manekshaw made a good Governor or a Gen. Cariappa? I seriously doubt Assam will be lucky to get a Person with a good track record in problem-solving - maybe a good diplomat or a career IAS/Union Minister. I keep hearing Renuka Choudhury is great. Maybe Assam needs a woman's touch? IMHO, in Assam's case, we need a Governor who really can really feel the pulse of the state. Assam needs a person who is sensitive to the needs of the region, works hard to achieve results, and finally is someone who is willing to boldly represent Assam's needs at the Center. Some "oppose" Generals Assam as they tend to think that a general might go for a military solution for the ULFA problem (as opposed to a political solution). That is probably the crux of the debate here. BTW: Even in the US, even though voters like military service in their Presidents, they still balked at suggestions of Gen. George Patton running for office. And today (as then), Gen. Patton is one of the most respected and celebrated military officers. --Ram On 7/10/08, uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, >> sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, that is. Duarte, Idi Amin, Yahaya Khan, Pinochet, Qaddafi, Musharaff, the head of the junta in Myanmar... the list is promising. Or, it is only that Generals should be Governors of the States/provinces and not Presidents/ Head of the States? I think it is neither governor nor another person that matters. It is not even he as a person. It is the interest he represents. Like, the Indian PM seems to be eager to please his emperor than explain things to the people of India first. The Left too seems fishy with their two-timings. I do not know what package they (the Left) are going to get by showing their false braggadocio by pretending to oppose the nuke deal and at
[Assam] Assam Association Faridabad meet (The Assam Tribune, 10.07.2008)
Assam Association Faridabad meet GUWAHATI, July 9 – Assam Association, Faridabad celebrated its first anniversary day on Sunday last at the banquet hall of Mahaluxmi Hotel NIT Faridabad. Quite a large number of people including ladies and children were present on the occasion. A meeting held on the occasion was presided over by Association chairperson Putul Saikiah. The meeting earlier began with a Saraswati Bandana, by Sanjukta Das and banti prajalan by the chief guest Rajya Sabha MP Kumar Deepak Das. Nityananda Kalita, its general secretary in his annual report, narrated the performance of the Association. He also threw new light on the future plan of the Association, including construction a namghar and Association’s own building. The chief guest, Kumar Deepak Das, in his speech, appreciated the idea of constructing a namghar. He assured all sorts of assistance to materialise the plan. Other distinguished guests also addressed the gathering. President Putul Saikiah, in his speech, urged all the members to work hard for early reaching our destination. Association vice president RK Das, offered the vote of thanks. (The Assam Tribune,10.07.2008) Get an email ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Of Generals as Governors
Uttam - good points. Without having read what the Bard wrote (yet). :):). I would like to weigh in a bit. The US has had generals who became really good Presidents, and has had lousy runs from Presidents who ran away from military duties ( George Bush). But that is the USA. In the examples you cite, you might notice, they were all self-appointed (some for life, like Dada Idi Amin) generals. Heck, they could have been "God" in their countries if they wanted. In India, the generals would have had to go thru the normal military channels of promotions (much like the US), hence no self-appointed demi-gods. So, would generals in general make good Governors? I think it depends on the individual in question. Its a crap-shoot of sorts. In the Indian context, and more so in the context of Assam, it will be a crucial appointment. What are the choices: Since we still have a shaky UPA govt. at the Center, they will probably appoint: (a) A general - experienced in the internal strifes and military expeditionsin the state (b) A political lackey, probably corrupt CM from Bihar/UP/MP (c) A existing or former Governor from another state (d) A political appointee to appease some coalition.. The choices aren't that great. Incidentally, would FM Sam Manekshaw made a good Governor or a Gen. Cariappa? I seriously doubt Assam will be lucky to get a Person with a good track record in problem-solving - maybe a good diplomat or a career IAS/Union Minister. I keep hearing Renuka Choudhury is great. Maybe Assam needs a woman's touch? IMHO, in Assam's case, we need a Governor who really can really feel the pulse of the state. Assam needs a person who is sensitive to the needs of the region, works hard to achieve results, and finally is someone who is willing to boldly represent Assam's needs at the Center. Some "oppose" Generals Assam as they tend to think that a general might go for a military solution for the ULFA problem (as opposed to a political solution). That is probably the crux of the debate here. BTW: Even in the US, even though voters like military service in their Presidents, they still balked at suggestions of Gen. George Patton running for office. And today (as then), Gen. Patton is one of the most respected and celebrated military officers. --Ram On 7/10/08, uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time > ago, sorry, > didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in > general could do that - be good Governors, that is. > > > Duarte, Idi Amin, Yahaya Khan, Pinochet, Qaddafi, Musharaff, the head of > the junta in Myanmar... the list is promising. > > Or, it is only that Generals should be Governors of the States/provinces > and not Presidents/ Head of the States? > > I think it is neither governor nor another person that matters. It is not > even he as a person. It is the interest he represents. Like, the Indian PM > seems to be eager to please his emperor than explain things to the people of > India first. The Left too seems fishy with their two-timings. I do not know > what package they (the Left) are going to get by showing their false > braggadocio by pretending to oppose the nuke deal and at the same time > allowing enough time to the supporters of the deal to garner support so that > the government may not fall and the deal is ultimately through. > > Uttam Kumar Borthakur > > --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > From: Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world" < > assam@assamnet.org> > Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 1:36 PM > > > So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors > for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!! > Could not help not to get in here again. > > Another example of taking things out of the context, rather, taking things > ligterally - big time. > > No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, > sorry, > didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in > general could do that - be good Governors, that is. > > > > > > > "In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and > humble like a blade of grass." > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jul > 2008 20:48:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > > "Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent > American > Presidents."> > So?> "Excellent American > Presidents" will be good governors for Assam!!!> What a strange > logic!!!> What height of ignorance!!> Rajen Barua> > - Original > Message - > From: "Choudhary, H. N. - AMW - MUM" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people > interested in Assam from around the world" > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:20 AM> > S
[Assam] Of Generals as Governors
>> No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, >> sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, that is. Duarte, Idi Amin, Yahaya Khan, Pinochet, Qaddafi, Musharaff, the head of the junta in Myanmar... the list is promising. Or, it is only that Generals should be Governors of the States/provinces and not Presidents/ Head of the States? I think it is neither governor nor another person that matters. It is not even he as a person. It is the interest he represents. Like, the Indian PM seems to be eager to please his emperor than explain things to the people of India first. The Left too seems fishy with their two-timings. I do not know what package they (the Left) are going to get by showing their false braggadocio by pretending to oppose the nuke deal and at the same time allowing enough time to the supporters of the deal to garner support so that the government may not fall and the deal is ultimately through. Uttam Kumar Borthakur --- On Thu, 10/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world" Date: Thursday, 10 July, 2008, 1:36 PM > So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!! Could not help not to get in here again. Another example of taking things out of the context, rather, taking things ligterally - big time. No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, that is. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass.” > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > "Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent American > Presidents."> > So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!!> Rajen Barua> > - Original Message - > From: "Choudhary, H. N. - AMW - MUM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:20 AM> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > To govern needs wisdom, courage conviction and leadership like that of > Akbar the Great. Lesser human beings can possess these qualities in small > measure. Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent American > Presidents.> Therefore your comments " military generals, lightweight in more ways than > one" are an expression of ignorance of historical facts.> > Please do not make such comments. It hurts good people.> > Regards> > Hemen N Choudhary> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9820125972> > > > -Original Message-> From: Chan Mahanta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 PM> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around theworld> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > Hi Alpana:> > While your genuine humility is always refreshing,> it is perhaps not all that inspiring as far as> your confusion about who would make a good> governor in Assam and the contiguous Indian> holdings.> > If you have trouble deciding whether> superannuated military generals, lightweight in> more ways than one, or spooks and sekurity-wallas> whose world view are limited by their legendary> desi-bureacratic intellectual confines, further> damaged by their reliance on force rather than> dialogue for solving social unrests and able> politicians or intellectuals willing to respond> to popular views and needs are the right fit for> a region riven by politically rooted violent> conflicts that have been going on for over half a> century; then your commitments to a democratic> ethos needs serious re-examination, don't you> think :-)?> > c-da> > > > > > > > > > At 11:52 PM -0500 7/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >IMO, it is indeed a scholarly piece, but sounds pessimistic.> >> >Some portions are beyond my understanding and> >knowledge (like who would be good as a> >governor), but as an ordinary person, I would> >like to think that this is at least the> >beginning of the peace process.> >> >Cheers!!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"In order to make spiritual progress you must be> >patient like a tree and humble like a blade of> >grass."> >> >> >> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:20:13 -0500> To:> >assam@assamnet.org> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and> >Assam> > Another excellent piece Baruah. Thanks> >for sharing.> > m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At> >8:41 PM -0400 7/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrot
Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam
Talking about context, some of you may be interested in an essay I wrote some time ago called 'Generals as Governors.' It is available on the net: http://www.himalmag.com/june2001/essay.html It is about the significance of appointing retired military generals, police and intelligence chiefs as Governors of Northeastern states. SB Quoting "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors for >> Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!! > Could not help not to get in here again. > > Another example of taking things out of the context, rather, taking > things ligterally - big time. > > No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time > ago, sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do > that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, > that is. > > > > > > > “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree > and humble like a blade of grass.” > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 9 > Jul 2008 20:48:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and > Assam> > > "Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent > American > Presidents."> > So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will > be good governors for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What > height of ignorance!!> Rajen Barua> > - Original Message - > > From: "Choudhary, H. N. - AMW - MUM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the > world" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:20 > AM> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > To govern > needs wisdom, courage conviction and leadership like that of > > Akbar the Great. Lesser human beings can possess these qualities in > small > measure. Military Generals in US Army have been making > excellent American > Presidents.> Therefore your comments " > military generals, lightweight in more ways than > one" are an > expression of ignorance of historical facts.> > Please do not make > such comments. It hurts good people.> > Regards> > Hemen N > Choudhary> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9820125972> > > > > -Original Message-> From: Chan Mahanta > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:04 > PM> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around > theworld> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > Hi > Alpana:> > While your genuine humility is always refreshing,> it is > perhaps not all that inspiring as far as> your confusion about who > would make a good> governor in Assam and the contiguous Indian> > holdings.> > If you have trouble deciding whether> superannuated > military generals, lightweight in> more ways than one, or spooks > and sekurity-wallas> whose world view are limited by their > legendary> desi-bureacratic intellectual confines, further> damaged > by their reliance on force rather than> dialogue for solving social > unrests and able> politicians or intellectuals willing to respond> > to popular views and needs are the right fit for> a region riven by > politically rooted violent> conflicts that have been going on for > over half a> century; then your commitments to a democratic> ethos > needs serious re-examination, don't you> think :-)?> > c-da> > > > > > > > > > > At 11:52 PM -0500 7/7/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> > >IMO, it is indeed a scholarly piece, but sounds pessimistic.> >> > >Some portions are beyond my understanding and> >knowledge (like > who would be good as a> >governor), but as an ordinary person, I > would> >like to think that this is at least the> >beginning of the > peace process.> >> >Cheers!!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"In order to > make spiritual progress you must be> >patient like a tree and > humble like a blade of> >grass."> >> >> >> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul > 2008 21:20:13 -0500> To:> >assam@assamnet.org> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and> > >Assam> > Another excellent piece Baruah. Thanks> >for sharing.> > > m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At> >8:41 PM -0400 7/7/08, > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote:> >The Telegraph (Calcutta)> >July 8,> > >2008> >> > > >http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080708/jsp/opinion/story_9504721.jsp#> >> > >A> >CRISIS OF POLICY AND THE SOVEREIGNTY> >QUESTION> >> >Sanjib > Baruah> >> >A unilateral> >ceasefire and a new governor may not be > enough> >to end the> >cycle of violence and> >counter-violence in > Assam, unless there is> >a> >radical renegotiation in the social > contract> >between India and this> >state, writes Sanjib> >Baruah.> > >> >> >Some in Assam like to see the> >unilateral ceasefire by the > so-called> >Alpha> >and Charlie companies of United Liberation > Front> >of Asom?s 28th> >battalion as good news.> >However,
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> So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors for Assam!!!> > What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!! Could not help not to get in here again. Another example of taking things out of the context, rather, taking things ligterally - big time. No, not the very same American Presidents (as they passed long time ago, sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic here) would literally do that, but Generals in general could do that - be good Governors, that is. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass.” > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: assam@assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 > 20:48:28 -0500> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > > "Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent American > > Presidents."> > So?> "Excellent American Presidents" will be good governors > for Assam!!!> What a strange logic!!!> What height of ignorance!!> Rajen > Barua> > - Original Message - > From: "Choudhary, H. N. - AMW - MUM" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from > around the world" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 > 4:20 AM> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > > To govern > needs wisdom, courage conviction and leadership like that of > Akbar the > Great. Lesser human beings can possess these qualities in small > measure. > Military Generals in US Army have been making excellent American > > Presidents.> Therefore your comments " military generals, lightweight in > more ways than > one" are an expression of ignorance of historical facts.> > > Please do not make such comments. It hurts good people.> > Regards> > Hemen > N Choudhary> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9820125972> > > > -Original > Message-> From: Chan Mahanta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, > July 08, 2008 7:04 PM> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam > from around theworld> Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, Sovereignty and Assam> > Hi > Alpana:> > While your genuine humility is always refreshing,> it is perhaps > not all that inspiring as far as> your confusion about who would make a > good> governor in Assam and the contiguous Indian> holdings.> > If you have > trouble deciding whether> superannuated military generals, lightweight in> > more ways than one, or spooks and sekurity-wallas> whose world view are > limited by their legendary> desi-bureacratic intellectual confines, further> > damaged by their reliance on force rather than> dialogue for solving social > unrests and able> politicians or intellectuals willing to respond> to > popular views and needs are the right fit for> a region riven by politically > rooted violent> conflicts that have been going on for over half a> century; > then your commitments to a democratic> ethos needs serious re-examination, > don't you> think :-)?> > c-da> > > > > > > > > > At 11:52 PM -0500 7/7/08, > Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:> >IMO, it is indeed a scholarly piece, but > sounds pessimistic.> >> >Some portions are beyond my understanding and> > >knowledge (like who would be good as a> >governor), but as an ordinary > person, I would> >like to think that this is at least the> >beginning of the > peace process.> >> >Cheers!!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"In order to make > spiritual progress you must be> >patient like a tree and humble like a blade > of> >grass."> >> >> >> > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:20:13 -0500> To:> > >assam@assamnet.org> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Ulfa, > Sovereignty and> >Assam> > Another excellent piece Baruah. Thanks> >for > sharing.> > m> > > > > > > > > > > > > > At> >8:41 PM -0400 7/7/08, [EMAIL > PROTECTED]> >wrote:> >The Telegraph (Calcutta)> >July 8,> >2008> >> > > >http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080708/jsp/opinion/story_9504721.jsp#> >> > >A> >CRISIS OF POLICY AND THE SOVEREIGNTY> >QUESTION> >> >Sanjib Baruah> >> > >A unilateral> >ceasefire and a new governor may not be enough> >to end the> > >cycle of violence and> >counter-violence in Assam, unless there is> >a> > >radical renegotiation in the social contract> >between India and this> > >state, writes Sanjib> >Baruah.> >> >> >Some in Assam like to see the> > >unilateral ceasefire by the so-called> >Alpha> >and Charlie companies of > United Liberation Front> >of Asom?s 28th> >battalion as good news.> > >However, there is nothing in the history> >of> >the past two decades of the > state?s> >politics to suggest that the> >state?s> >multi-faceted political > crisis, of which Ulfa is> >a symptom,> >might end with new defections from> > >Ulfa or, even a mutiny.> >> >A far more> >promising development may be the > appointment of> >former> >chief minister of Rajasthan, Shiv> >Charan Mathur, > as governor. For the> >first time> >in nearly two decades, Assam will have > a> >politician as> >governor.> >> >Two other> >g
