Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.

2007-12-01 Thread mc mahant

Dear Mr. Santhanam,
Thanks for the note. 
Mera Bharat Mahaan has no Driver.I thought the Great Tamils had someone!
There is nobody demanding Results from the Lakhs of "Technologists" loafing 
around with paper degrees.
No tabulated databank on who should be knowing what/where/when.
There is no statement of Problems/Demand of ideal timebound results/automatic 
disqualification/upgradation/Punishments for inefficiency/rewards for results.
Truly a free country!
They cry Hoarse"We have no water--help!!!"
Here I shout "Don't worry-I know how to solve  - I will teach you. You will not 
have any more problems"
They all hear---and look to Infinity and  to their next foreign trip.
People deserve the Govt. they elect.(Prince Machiavelli)Keep Smiling.
And keep Hoping. They say "Change or Die"
 
BR
MM


Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 06:06:40 +From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fwd: RE: 
[WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
01 December 2007
 
Since I dont see my post as yet, probably it will be rejected. So I am sending 
you this note!
 
Regards
 
Santhanam R.
"R. 
Santhanam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:31:23 + (GMT)From: "R. Santhanam" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>Subject: Fwd: RE: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.To: 
Water W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29th Nov 2007
 
Dear Mr Mahant,
 
Thanks your encouragement and moral support! I dont have much patience for 
dealing with Government agencies. However there are others like Shri Shantaram 
Shenoy at Mumbai who has been running a public toilet at Versoa for more than a 
year, with BMC cooperation and support. He has now requested them more support 
and help along with study of the biosanitiser technology by IIT students, 
professors so that it gets recorded as emperical evidence and not remain as 
mere anecdotal referrals.
 
Your water purification technology of electrocoagulation should also get tested 
and verified so that we all can benefit!
 
Thanking you oince again!
 
R.Santhanam
 
mc mahant 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>From: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 
2007 18:41:27 +0530Subject: RE: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.



Nobody is Rejecting.Proof is on Inventor.Facilitator should be Govt. Approach 
Govts. of most smelly Shit-on-street States.They have everything to gain 
including IPR's .Royalty(maybe Shared with Inventor and facilitator)Money 
--they say is not a problem for such a good cause.Demo Units as I said-- in 
front of main City Rail Stations, India's Parliament,Science&Technology 
Temples,---A few crores won't scratch dents on 
Chidambaram,Ambanis,Tatas-,Ranbaxy,CiplaAfter all Delhi's TIFAC is all 
for such Innovations. Create powerful Lobby Groups in Lok Sabha/Rajya 
SabhaRefuse to Give up. Splash it on mass Circulation Newspapers.Demand 
attention by Channels devoting  hours an week on Innovative Developments All 
the Best Wishes.We must all support a good Cause!!mm 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:56:49 
+Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.



The reply by Mr Rohit Pathania is relevant in that, R.O. creates or Ion 
Exchange for that matter a highly toxic stream of extremely brackish water. 
There have been protests from fishermen in Chennai for example when a R.O plant 
was letting out the brackish stream into the sea, killing marine organisms.
 
The R.O technology is also behind the problems being faced by Coca Cola.
 
This forum has started rejecting my postings wherever I mention Dr Uday 
Bhawalkar's technology. Nevertheless his technologys is the most relevant and 
best option today.
 
 

Sincerely,

R. Santhanam


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Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.

2007-12-01 Thread mc mahant

Dear Mr. Santhanam,
Thanks for the note. 
Mera Bharat Mahaan has no Driver.I thought the Great Tamils had someone!
There is nobody demanding Results from the Lakhs of "Technologists" loafing 
around with paper degrees.
No tabulated databank on who should be knowing what/where/when.
There is no statement of Problems/Demand of ideal timebound results/automatic 
disqualification/upgradation/Punishments for inefficiency/rewards for results.
Truly a free country!
They cry Hoarse"We have no water--help!!!"
Here I shout "Don't worry-I know how to solve  - I will teach you. You will not 
have any more problems"
They all hear---and look to Infinity and  to their next foreign trip.
People deserve the Govt. they elect.(Prince Machiavelli)Keep Smiling.
And keep Hoping. They say "Change or Die"
 
BR
MM


Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 06:06:40 +From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fwd: RE: 
[WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
01 December 2007
 
Since I dont see my post as yet, probably it will be rejected. So I am sending 
you this note!
 
Regards
 
Santhanam R.
"R. 
Santhanam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:31:23 + (GMT)From: "R. Santhanam" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>Subject: Fwd: RE: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.To: 
Water W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
29th Nov 2007
 
Dear Mr Mahant,
 
Thanks your encouragement and moral support! I dont have much patience for 
dealing with Government agencies. However there are others like Shri Shantaram 
Shenoy at Mumbai who has been running a public toilet at Versoa for more than a 
year, with BMC cooperation and support. He has now requested them more support 
and help along with study of the biosanitiser technology by IIT students, 
professors so that it gets recorded as emperical evidence and not remain as 
mere anecdotal referrals.
 
Your water purification technology of electrocoagulation should also get tested 
and verified so that we all can benefit!
 
Thanking you oince again!
 
R.Santhanam
 
mc mahant 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>From: mc mahant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Wed, 28 Nov 
2007 18:41:27 +0530Subject: RE: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.



Nobody is Rejecting.Proof is on Inventor.Facilitator should be Govt. Approach 
Govts. of most smelly Shit-on-street States.They have everything to gain 
including IPR's .Royalty(maybe Shared with Inventor and facilitator)Money 
--they say is not a problem for such a good cause.Demo Units as I said-- in 
front of main City Rail Stations, India's Parliament,Science&Technology 
Temples,---A few crores won't scratch dents on 
Chidambaram,Ambanis,Tatas-,Ranbaxy,CiplaAfter all Delhi's TIFAC is all 
for such Innovations. Create powerful Lobby Groups in Lok Sabha/Rajya 
SabhaRefuse to Give up. Splash it on mass Circulation Newspapers.Demand 
attention by Channels devoting  hours an week on Innovative Developments All 
the Best Wishes.We must all support a good Cause!!mm 


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:56:49 
+Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.



The reply by Mr Rohit Pathania is relevant in that, R.O. creates or Ion 
Exchange for that matter a highly toxic stream of extremely brackish water. 
There have been protests from fishermen in Chennai for example when a R.O plant 
was letting out the brackish stream into the sea, killing marine organisms.
 
The R.O technology is also behind the problems being faced by Coca Cola.
 
This forum has started rejecting my postings wherever I mention Dr Uday 
Bhawalkar's technology. Nevertheless his technologys is the most relevant and 
best option today.
 
 

Sincerely,

R. Santhanam


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Re: [Assam] [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.

2007-11-23 Thread mc mahant

the desalination plants on the sea shores will dump the chlorides back in to 
the sea.  That is no problem.
Salt% will be equilibrium in the Sea in a few minutes. 
Also, theTHICKER BRINE  will be better starting material for Soda /Alkali 
plants.
What IS a problem? The anaerobic bacteria in the Septic Tank will all die!
mm


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:53:28 
+0530Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.





the desalination plants on the sea shores will dump the chlorides back in to 
the sea.
think of the whole lot of problems and diseases we are having because of 
scarcity of water. an experimental initiative can always be taken. technology 
will find solutions to any problems that crop up. salty water can kill many 
bacterias and deadly viruses.
 
brij khandelwal

- Original Message - 
From: rohit pathania 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets.


I do not think that is such agood idea. Where will we dispose the heavy 
chloride content water then? Into rivers? It will only add to the increasing 
pollution of river streams. Also, too much chloride can prove detrimental to 
the fresh water aquatic life. 
On 11/13/07, Richard Harkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 





I'm uncertain where the notion of desalination (which is expensive) fits into 
this model? The basic premises of wastewater treatment is screening (course 
then fine) followed by 'primary' treatment (sedimentation > anaerobic digestion 
> de-watering) to take out suspended matter (and return water to?). 'Secondary' 
treatment can follow to further remove BOD and other polluting factors. The 
water salinity would tend to make the oxidation more difficult.  Certainly 
ideas which centre around smaller-scale dry oxidation need to be rigorous in 
achieving some sterilisation. The most useful ideas are through using 
bio-remediation. This can achieve (re)cyling of waste as fertiliser through 
sterilisation and also 'stabilising' the waste so that chemical decomposition 
can make the nitrates fraction (ammonia conversion) available for plant 
up-take. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 
2007 18:06:20 +0530> Subject: [WaterWatch] use sea water to flush toilets. 
> > > From: BRIJ KHANDELWAL> 21/22. Free Ganj, AGRA-282004> Phones: 
> > > 05624002937, mobile: 9997186708> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > so many 
> > > alternative toilet designs have been considered but none found > 
> > > practical enough.> the problem is not so much with the toilet design but 
> > > with the scarce water > resources at our command.> we have to therefore 
> > > look for ways to increase water supply.> i have long been campaigning for 
> > > laying pipelines from the sea coast to feed > sea water to muncipalities. 
> > > the sea water can be used for the toilets, for > cleaning utensils and 
> > > for the garages. a beginning can be made in cities > along the vast 
> > > coastline of india.> luckily india has the technology now to desalinate 
> > > water. in most urban > centres people have already begun buying so called 
> > > mineral water in bottles > and jars. if people are willing to buy water, 
> > > the sea water filtered and > desalinated can also be supplied. clusters 
> > > of tiny sea water treatment units > can come up all along the coast and 
> > > the water can be transported. we should > also start working on sea water 
> > > lakes fed by a pipeline. the lakes will > bring down the pollution level, 
> > > control temperature and also help develop > fisheries. sea weeds can also 
> > > grow.> india is fortunate to have sea on three sides. a few hundred 
> > > kilometre long > pipelines from the sea pumping sea water will be very 
> > > practical, safe and > economic. sea water will also kill a variety of 
> > > bacterias and insects. our > rivers too can be flushed with sea water, 
> > > roads cleaned. > the need therefore is to use treated sea water.> it is 
> > > neither practical nor desirable to stop using flush toilets. all you > 
> > > need is a regular supply of water to flush out the shit. so start using 
> > > sea > water.> desalination plants using solar energy have already come up 
> > > in several > countries. one is working in tamil nadu. tidal energy can 
> > > also be used to > desalinate water.> let us use our vast resources of sea 
> > > water. that is the need of the hour. > > > > > - Original Message 
> > > - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: 
> > > Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:50 PM > Subject: [WaterWatch] Nobel Peace 
> > > Prize for re-inventing toilet!> > > > Nobel Peace Prize for re-inventing 
> > > toilet!> >> > Common flush toilet with its numerous opulent versions has 
> > > outlived its > > relevance! Undoubtedly cynical, it is time that this 
> > > sixteenth century > > invention is taken back to the drawing board befo