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Re: [Assam] Re: Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
Just to get to the bottom line , as Dylan said How many miles must ... the answer my fr.. is blowing in the --- Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is another thing. If the cops in India had been in a similar situation, I have little doubt that the whole Western Hemisphere would be tellling the Indians how to apprehend and capture terrorists and avoid killing innocent bystanders. Not only that, they would be do so in a holier-than-thou attitude. Tsk, tsk! My heart goes out to all these cops-but- not-army folks who are lectured by the whole world if they mistakenly take someone's life. Have you heard of deaths in custody? Must be under dire circumstances, attempting to save the public from clear and imminent danger. Give us a break Ram. The victim complex displayed here is very unpersuasive, to put it mildly. And I won't even touch the 'professionalism' of the armed forces, what with officers getting decorated for trophies of 'insurgents' taken in fake-encounters, or gunned down routinely because they look so foreign. c-da At 8:50 AM -0500 7/30/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: I am sorry if my comments have caused you any offence. That was certainly not my intention Of course, I do understand that you had intention was not to offend. I also understand that being close to 'ground-zero' would change anyone's prespective on such matters. And no offence taken. Some points though: The case of Borpujari,if I remember correct, involved the CRPF (Andhra), and again not the Indian Army. Having been a boarder of 3rd Mess for a number of years, we too would get chills as we passes by 2nd Mess everyday. the S.P. gave an order to shoot That in it self should clue us in that it wasn't the army. The Army and the CRPF are totally different forces. In India, only in dire circumstances is the army deployed. The reason is to keep them at a distance from the public and use them primarily in the country's defence and national security. The same with Khargeswar Talukdar. We were students at that time and if did affect all of us deeply. Again it wasn't the army. Now, have army personnel ever been on the wrong side? Absolutely, and one can cite many examples. But the example I was looking for was if there was a 'standing policy' that the Indian Army had to shoot-to-kill? I seriously doubt that. As for the rapes etc, when individual soldiers go berserk, the Indian Military Courts of Justice, just does not give them a pat on their backs and send them on their way. These MCJ is extremely strict, and punishments are severe, and not publized at all. To sum it up, what I was trying to get to is this: The 3 cops chasing the Brazillian were basically following POLICY when they shot the young man when he was down on the ground, (obviously surrendered), and that too 7 times to the head at point blank range (because the policy states that shooting on the chest may trigger an explosion etc etc). My problem is more to do with a policy terribily gone wrong and not so much with the cops on the beat. There is another thing. If the cops in India had been in a similar situation, I have little doubt that the whole Western Hemisphere would be tellling the Indians how to apprehend and capture terrorists and avoid killing innocent bystanders. Not only that, they would be do so in a holier-than-thou attitude. with warm regards --Ram On 7/30/05, Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry if my comments have caused you any offence. That was certainly not my intention. Perhaps it would have been more accurate if I had stated that the incidents with the Indian army occur with worrying regularity rather than all the time. By my comments, I am not seeking to make a direct comparison between the situation in the UK and India. However I would suggest that a balanced picture needs to be drawn. Whilst I now live in the UK, I am an Indian by birth. I am not, by my comments seeking to criticise my homeland, far from it -- I love the country where I was born and raised. However and perhaps because of this, I simply can not ignore the obvious and worrying situation which I see and hear about each time I return. You have requested examples. I would suggest that you simply consider the numerous incidents that are frequently reported in the local newspaper covering the area. It was the Indian army in Assam (CRPF Jawans) who rapes tribal women in villages while they raid their houses looking for militants every now and again. The killing of Ranjit Borpujari at one of the hostel at Cotton College in that July morning 1960 is still fresh in my memory. I was only a school girl. On that occasion there was a protest demanding Assamese language to be officially recognised. As the
Re: [Assam] Re: Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
I was only trying to separate the military from the policy. If one has to compare, then they should compare the British constabulary with the Indian police, and the British Military with the Indian Military. !!! But Why . Both are sailors sailing the same boat off course in a diff. way. With warm regards JP --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean about the comparison between the bobby and the thulla? I was only trying to separate the military from the policy. If one has to compare, then they should compare the British constabulary with the Indian police, and the British Military with the Indian Military. Let's not give the bobby too much credit - wasn't his ancestor responsible for Jallian Wala Bagh? That was the British Army, under Gen. Dyer But, I agree with your other points on British policy. On 7/27/05, Rajib Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that all true? I mean about the comparison between the bobby and the thulla? I agree with you on the decision to put those 8 (wasn't 1 enough?) bullets through the head of a guy running away despite police entreaties and that too with a long coat on. But c'mon - the bobby has had only the first case of bombing from the mullahs. The Indian army has had it happening for sometime now. One hit and the Muslim community has threats, graffiti, mosque burning and what not coming in from the general populace. What happens when that happens on a fairly regular basis -let's say once every month or so for the next 10 years? I am sure they will be butchered way before that. Let's not give the bobby too much credit - wasn't his ancestor responsible for Jallian Wala Bagh? Wasn't British policy one of absolute passivity all these years - give all these Jihadists that create trouble all over the world shelter. Till they come home to roost. Finally, when the very same guys (idealogicially speaking) did the Bombay blasts not too long back (and there were 500 killed, not 50) - the British government (or was it the EU) that had the gall to call upon India to solve Kashmir to prevent these killings. We need the bobby to be putting in those bullets. We also need the protestors to be keeping them on the edge. Hopefully therein they would find a balance over the long term term. --- Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - The difference between the Indian Army and British Bobby is -- the Indian Army do it all the time in a callous, calculative and well planned manner. Whereas the police officer in London had to do it in split seconds. This morning when I walk past the high street I saw few people waving placards reading Racist killers, No shoot to kill. In my mind to say how lucky you guys are ! -- you are not one of those innocents killed in 7 July. But none of these idealistic protesters have put themselves in the shoe of the undoubtedly courageous police officers who are struggling to protect Britain from the ever -- burgeoning threat of terrorism. It was human error and we all do it. But the difference in other professions, can apologise for their mistakes and move on. It is never that simple for a police officer on what is rapidly becoming the war-style front line of crime fighting in Britain. If the Brazilian had been a suicide bomber, shouting to injure would'nt have prevented him from detonating a bomb. If it is my son I'd be shouting and screaming and demanding a full explanation into how this terrible mistake robbed an innocent man of his life. Looking at it objectively, what is the alternative ?. This is a terrible tragic mistake and no one wishes to distract from the grief suffered by Jean Charles de Menzes' family. But if this country and everyday commuter like myself is going to stand a chance of beating terrorism then Sir Ian Blair (Met Commissioner) is right to say the shoot-to-kill policy stays in place. Rini Kakati - Winks nudges are here - Download MSN Messenger 7.0 today! ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options:
Re: [Assam] Truth?? police encounter shooting in UK metro
It is easy to jump to conclusions, but is wrong. !!! Obviously !! Probably all of us know that. In fairness to British undercover agents, they watched the residents of the address. But they did not know, that there were more than the suspects living in that address--it was a housing complex. They had no idea that a Brazilian family lived in the same building too. !!! Hey C'da , let's not just jump into conclusions just like that. Ends justify means but not neccessarily at the cost of humane lives. We are not entitled to snub out lives based on mere suspicions. After 7/7 or 9/11 , the bottomline is '' eVERY MORTAL is innocent till pronounced guilty Regards Jayanta --- Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is easy to jump to conclusions, but is wrong. In fairness to British undercover agents, they watched the residents of the address. But they did not know, that there were more than the suspects living in that address--it was a housing complex. They had no idea that a Brazilian family lived in the same building too. At 5:39 PM -0500 7/25/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think you are right. With all their 'watching', it looks like they not doing a great job. If looks more and more as if they were just watching the station and singling out South Asians. --Ram da On 7/25/05, umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still wondering whether the policemen in plainclothes are really telling the truth. Initially it was mentioned that they had been observing the guy for a few days before they entered his house and he ran. Now they are saying that that he is a Brazilian who had NO connection with the terrorist. -- So why where they observing him? Did they really observe him? I don't think so. Had they done so -- they would have realized that he is a Brazilian -- so has no connection with bombings. I think they never really chased him to the train station They were just watching people inside the metro station - in their plain clothes. Saw this brown skinned guy entering the train in a thick coat. They called out to him - he didn't respond -- so they panicked (and also became angry.) They killed him in cold blood -- thinking him to be a South Asian. Had he really been a muslim or a South Asian -- noone would ever have doubted their story that they had really been observing him iun his house. Why don't they give proof ? Why don't they show the metro station video - in which he is shown running inside the station -- and the police are chasing him? Every metro station has video cameras at their entrance and corridors. They never really chased him insde the station. They had suspicion and just killed him -- or else show proof! Now I understand why British police is accused of racism by all minority residents . Doesn't such a scenario happen in Assam or Manipur? Umesh Rini Kakati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important these police officers are -- when it comes to the suicide bomber threat we face today, these people are the gatekeepers between us and the people trying to kill us. So it is vital these highly trained professionals have the confidence of their bosses and the ordinary public. If they don't have that, it might lead them to hesitate -- that split second could be the difference between life and death for hundreds of people. The Brazilian was quite simply in the wrong place, doing totally the wrong thing at the wrong time. Yet why he made a run for it, despite challenges from police to stop, remains to be explained. Every one will understand the awful dilemma faced by the armed officer. To hold fire and risk more bloodshed, or shoot to kill. Rini Kakati _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger 7.0 today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Can't remember an address in your address book? Enter the first few letters and Address AutoComplete will automatically finish it. Get Yahoo! Mail ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change
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[Assam] A lie has nine lives
A lie has nine lives Ram Sehgal Every religion teaches us to be truthful. On many occasions I have made serious efforts to be truthful and invariably got into trouble. I realised that a lie would not have made any sense unless the truth was felt to be harmful. There seems to be a forceful system that does not permit us to be truthful. You are late in the office. Has anyone told his boss that he had overslept? We make our wives ill for that day. When you want a day off, can you tell your superiors you are going fishing with friends? This time around it is your mother who has to be taken to the doctor. A friend missed a flight. In order to avoid paying cancellation charges, he produced a medical certificate which stated that he was advised rest. When someone important is lying to you, are you allowed to say that to him? We also carry this habit of hiding the truth to other countries as well. A friend was visiting a Japanese company in Tokyo. At the end of the day, the Japanese host asked him to call him if he was free for dinner. The next morning, the Japanese said, I was expecting your call. The reply was, I tried to call you but I could not get through. The agitated Japanese lodged a complaint with the telephone company. Within minutes the company confirmed that no call was made. My friend should have known that the Japanese telephone system is the best in the world! In high society, it is quite common to drop names. A corporate honcho was relating his views on the Indian economy at a cocktail party. He kept saying, I told Manmohan last week what should be done to improve our infrastructure. During a five-minute conversation, he had used the name Manmohan six times. Someone asked him, Who is this Manmohan you keep referring to? Manmohan Singh the prime minister, of course! replied my friend, rather irritated. Believing this to be true, a group of people gathered around him seeking his intervention with the prime minister to resolve some serious issues facing their industry. The expression on his face said it all. He had lost his reputation within five minutes of social gossip. I was told by a management guru, The best way to win an argument is to start being right. Then, typical of management gurus, there is always a rider, However being right, too, may be socially unacceptable. If I could, I would rather go with Benjamin Disraeli Never apologise for showing feeling, when you do so, you apologise for the truth. _ Bought a New Cellphone? http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/4686-26272-10936-265?ck=Register Sell your old one for a Great Price in eBay! ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] A lie has nine lives
Rajen Da You came to the conclusion without reading the whole context of the article. This one I found a little bit practical , I mean , the lie portion . The phoney statement you deciphered is RIGHT. It sounds like a lie but it also sounds truthful. Now let's not get in too deep . I am not into too much religious stuff. Regards Jayanta gt;From: quot;Rajen Baruaquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: lt;assam@pikespeak.uccs.edugt; gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] A lie has nine lives gt;Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:16:32 -0500 gt; gt; gt;Every religion teaches us to be truthful. gt; gt;Even before I read the article, I am so much disgusted with such phony gt;statements. Where did my Hinduism, in my life, did ever taught me to be gt;truthful. In our culture where is the chance for religion to teach anything gt;to the children? Hindus learn whatever ethics that is from Ramayana and gt;Mahabharata. Can we say Ramayana and Mahabharata teach us to be truthful? gt;Does Krishna inspire us to be truthful? Does Rama inspire the Hindus to be gt;good husbands? What is the incentive for being truthful? To go to haven gt;after one dies? Is that what religion teaches us? Religions are so phony!!! gt; gt;Come to reality. writer!!! gt; gt;Sorry for not reading the full article whatever it wanted to say!!! gt; gt;Rajen Barua gt; gt; gt;- Original Message - gt;From: quot;jayanta payengquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: lt;assam@pikespeak.uccs.edugt; gt;Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:16 AM gt;Subject: [Assam] A lie has nine lives gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; A lie has nine lives gt; gt; gt; gt; Ram Sehgal gt; gt; gt; gt; Every religion teaches us to be truthful. On many occasions I have made gt; gt; serious efforts to be truthful and invariably got into trouble. I realised gt; gt; that a lie would not have made any sense unless the truth was felt to be gt; gt; harmful. There seems to be a forceful system that does not permit us to be gt; gt; truthful. gt; gt; gt; gt; You are late in the office. Has anyone told his boss that he had gt;overslept? gt; gt; We make our wives ill for that day. When you want a day off, can you tell gt; gt; your superiors you are going fishing with friends? This time around it is gt; gt; your mother who has to be taken to the doctor. gt; gt; gt; gt; A friend missed a flight. In order to avoid paying cancellation charges, gt;he gt; gt; produced a medical certificate which stated that he was advised rest. gt; gt; gt; gt; When someone important is lying to you, are you allowed to say that to gt;him? gt; gt; We also carry this habit of hiding the truth to other countries as well. A gt; gt; friend was visiting a Japanese company in Tokyo. At the end of the day, gt;the gt; gt; Japanese host asked him to call him if he was free for dinner. The next gt; gt; morning, the Japanese said, quot;I was expecting your call.quot; The reply was, quot;I gt; gt; tried to call you but I could not get through.quot; The agitated Japanese gt;lodged gt; gt; a complaint with the telephone company. Within minutes the company gt;confirmed gt; gt; that no call was made. My friend should have known that the Japanese gt; gt; telephone system is the best in the world! gt; gt; gt; gt; In high society, it is quite common to drop names. A corporate honcho was gt; gt; relating his views on the Indian economy at a cocktail party. He kept gt; gt; saying, quot;I told Manmohan last week what should be done to improve our gt; gt; infrastructure.quot; During a five-minute conversation, he had used the name gt; gt; Manmohan six times. Someone asked him, quot;Who is this Manmohan you keep gt; gt; referring to?quot; gt; gt; gt; gt; quot;Manmohan Singh - the prime minister, of course!quot; replied my friend, gt;rather gt; gt; irritated. Believing this to be true, a group of people gathered around gt;him gt; gt; seeking his intervention with the prime minister to resolve some serious gt; gt; issues facing their industry. gt; gt; gt; gt; The expression on his face said it all. He had lost his reputation within gt; gt; five minutes of social gossip. gt; gt; gt; gt; I was told by a management guru, quot;The best way to win an argument is to gt; gt; start being right.quot; Then, typical of management gurus, there is always a gt; gt; rider, quot;However being right, too, may be socially unacceptable.quot; gt; gt; gt; gt; If I could, I would rather go with Benjamin Disraeli quot;Never apologise for gt; gt; showing feeling, when you do so, you apologise for the truth.quot; gt; gt; gt; gt; _ gt; gt; Bought a New Cellphone? gt; gt; http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/4686-26272-10936-265?ck=Register Sell gt;your gt; gt; old one for a Great Price in eBay! gt; gt; gt; gt; ___ gt; gt; Assam mailing list gt; gt; Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt; gt; http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt; gt; gt; gt; Mailing list
Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng
Hi All Firstly , Let me clarify that I am not a Soldier writing Novels during spare time. In fact , I tried to search the article on the Telegraph supposed to FEATURE me but could not access the article . Today , while I was browsing the Assam Net archives , I was SHOCKED to find myself in the Suject line.I thought KI XOL . I am reallly having a hearty laugh at myself imagining myself in the Role of a soldier and then penning down novel's after a hard day out. btw , thank's folks for remembering. Regards JP ( A CIVILIAN ) gt;From: quot;Anjan K. Nathquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, quot;Chan Mahantaquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:31:00 +0800 gt; gt;Hi, gt;I read the article and was wondering the same. gt;Our Jayanta Payeng was vocal, but didn't sound like a soldier. gt;Will the real Jayanta Payeng please stand up. gt; gt;AKN gt; gt;- Original Message - From: quot;Chan Mahantaquot; gt;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;Cc: lt;assam@pikespeak.uccs.edugt; gt;Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:51 AM gt;Subject: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt; gt; gt;gt;Hi A: gt;gt; gt;gt;I can't find the NE Section of the Telegraph in their web site any gt;gt;more. That was where the article was. For some reason both the gt;gt;Guwahati and the NE Sections are missing now. gt;gt; gt;gt;This Jatnta Payeng is a soldier who writes novels in his spare gt;gt;time. gt;gt; gt;gt;c-da gt;gt;___ gt;gt;Assam mailing list gt;gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt;gt; gt;gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam gt;gt; gt;___ gt;Assam mailing list gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt; gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam _ Click, Upload, Print http://www.kodakexpress.co.in?soe=4956 Deliver in India ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng
Hi C'da Guess a bit kind of a passive reader !!! nothing else gt;From: Chan Mahanta lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: quot;jayanta payengquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt;CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:04:16 -0500 gt; gt;Hi J: gt; gt;Sorry I let the speculating spree loose. Where are you these days? gt;Long time no hear, long time feel heap lonely :-) gt; gt;c-da gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt;At 3:35 PM + 4/12/05, jayanta payeng wrote: gt;gt;Hi All gt;gt; gt;gt;Firstly , Let me clarify that I am not a Soldier writing Novels gt;gt;during spare time. In fact , I tried to search the article on the gt;gt;Telegraph supposed to FEATURE me but could not access the article . gt;gt; gt;gt;Today , while I was browsing the Assam Net archives , I was SHOCKED gt;gt;to find myself in the Suject line.I thought KI XOL . I am reallly gt;gt;having a hearty laugh at myself imagining myself in the Role of a gt;gt;soldier and then penning down novel's after a hard day out. gt;gt; gt;gt;btw , thank's folks for remembering. gt;gt; gt;gt;Regards gt;gt; gt;gt;JP ( A CIVILIAN ) gt;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;From: amp;quot;Anjan K. Nathamp;quot; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;To: amp;quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniamp;quot; gt;gt;amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt;, amp;quot;Chan Mahantaamp;quot; gt;gt;amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;gt;amp;gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;gt;amp;gt;Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:31:00 +0800 gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;Hi, gt;gt;amp;gt;I read the article and was wondering the same. gt;gt;amp;gt;Our Jayanta Payeng was vocal, but didn't sound like a soldier. gt;gt;amp;gt;Will the real Jayanta Payeng please stand up. gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;AKN gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;- Original Message - From: amp;quot;Chan Mahantaamp;quot; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;To: amp;quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniamp;quot; gt;gt;amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;Cc: amp;lt;assam@pikespeak.uccs.eduamp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:51 AM gt;gt;amp;gt;Subject: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;Hi A: gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;I can't find the NE Section of the Telegraph in their web gt;gt;site any gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;more. That was where the article was. For some reason both gt;gt;the gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;Guwahati and the NE Sections are missing now. gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;This Jatnta Payeng is a soldier who writes novels in his gt;gt;spare gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;time. gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;c-da gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;___ gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;Assam mailing list gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam gt;gt;amp;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;___ gt;gt;amp;gt;Assam mailing list gt;gt;amp;gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt;gt;amp;gt; gt;gt;amp;gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;gt;amp;gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;gt;amp;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam gt;gt; gt;gt;_ gt;gt;Click, Upload, Print http://www.kodakexpress.co.in?soe=4956 Deliver gt;gt;in India gt; _ Marriages at Bharatmatriony.com http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/cgi-bin/bmclicks1.cgi?74 Relationships that last forever ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng
A' ba Life is nothing but kosu pator pani . Ji mula baribo , baribo aku ! Kintu ji mula besikoi barhe , tetiya xole something is wrong somehere . what to do , mulai mod khale tini tekeli !!! gt;From: quot;Ram Sarangapaniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt;CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:10:57 + gt; _ Click, Upload, Print http://www.kodakexpress.co.in?soe=4956 Deliver in India ---BeginMessage--- Yes, good to hear from you Jayanta. I too tried to get the article that C'da mentioned, but couldn't. Maybe it was something like a soldier of fortune deal :-) Anyway, we still think you are famous. From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "jayanta payeng" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:04:16 -0500 Hi J: Sorry I let the speculating spree loose. Where are you these days? Long time no hear, long time feel heap lonely :-) c-da At 3:35 PM + 4/12/05, jayanta payeng wrote: Hi All Firstly , Let me clarify that I am not a Soldier writing Novels during spare time. In fact , I tried to search the article on the Telegraph supposed to FEATURE me but could not access the article . Today , while I was browsing the Assam Net archives , I was SHOCKED to find myself in the Suject line.I thought KI XOL . I am reallly having a hearty laugh at myself imagining myself in the Role of a soldier and then penning down novel's after a hard day out. btw , thank's folks for remembering. Regards JP ( A CIVILIAN ) gt;From: quot;Anjan K. Nathquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, quot;Chan Mahantaquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;Subject: Re: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt;Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 06:31:00 +0800 gt; gt;Hi, gt;I read the article and was wondering the same. gt;Our Jayanta Payeng was vocal, but didn't sound like a soldier. gt;Will the real Jayanta Payeng please stand up. gt; gt;AKN gt; gt;- Original Message - From: quot;Chan Mahantaquot; gt;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;To: quot;Alpana B. Sarangapaniquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; gt;Cc: lt;assam@pikespeak.uccs.edugt; gt;Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:51 AM gt;Subject: [Assam] Jayanta Payeng gt; gt; gt;gt;Hi A: gt;gt; gt;gt;I can't find the NE Section of the Telegraph in their web site any gt;gt;more. That was where the article was. For some reason both the gt;gt;Guwahati and the NE Sections are missing now. gt;gt; gt;gt;This Jatnta Payeng is a soldier who writes novels in his spare gt;gt;time. gt;gt; gt;gt;c-da gt;gt;___ gt;gt;Assam mailing list gt;gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt;gt; gt;gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam gt;gt; gt;___ gt;Assam mailing list gt;Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam gt; gt;Mailing list FAQ: gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html gt;To unsubscribe or change options: gt;http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam _ Click, Upload, Print http://www.kodakexpress.co.in?soe=4956 Deliver in India ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam ---End Message--- ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] What is a real relationship....
What is a real relationshipA Successful Relationship . . . A boy was born to a couple after eleven years of marriage. They were a loving couple and the boywas the apple of their eyes. When the boywas around two yearsold, one morning the husband saw a medicine bottle open. He was latefor work so he asked his wife to cap the bottle and keep it in thecupboard. His wife, preoccupied in the kitchen totally forgot the matter. The boy saw the bottle and playfully went to thebottle and fascinated by its color, drank it all. It happened to be apoisonous medicine meant for adults in small dosages. When the childcollapsed the mother hurried him to the hospital, where he died. The mother was stunned. She was terrified how to faceher husband. When the distraught father came to the hospitaland saw the deadchild, he looked at his wife anduttered just fourwords. QUESTIONS: 1. What were the fourwords? 2. What is the implication of thisstory? Guess Guess Guess Guess Scroll down toread.. ANSWER: The husband just said "I Love You Darling". The husband's totally unexpectedreaction is proactive behaviour. The child is dead. He can neverbe brought back to life. There is no point in finding faultwith the mother. Besides, if only he had taken time to keep the bottleaway, this would not happen. No one is to be blamed. She had lost her onlychild. What she needed at thatmoment was consolation andsympathy from the husband. That is what he gave her. If everyone can look at life with this kind of perspective,there would be much fewer problems in the world. Take off all yourenvies, jealousies, unforgiving attitude, selfishness, and fears. Andyouwill find things are actually not as difficult asyou think. "A successful relationship requires falling in love many times with the same person . ."Find and Buy at your price on Baazee. Register for Free Today! ___ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
RE: [Assam] FW: [riverlink] need help
A'ba It seems , many a times , that it's difficult , to accomplish things that needs help or maybe empathy . Rgds JP From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] FW: [riverlink] need help Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:51:12 -0500 ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Dont miss out on jobs that are not advertised. Post your CV on naukri.com today. From: "Nava Thakuria" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Attention journalist friends and well wishers. Here is an information for all of you. Regards, Nava Thakuria Eastern Zonal Secretary, National Federation of Newspaper Employees, New Delhi. Secretary, Guwahati Press Club, Guwahati-781001. (M) 98640 44917 Northeastern journalist fighting cancer Appeal for Generous Help Guwahati: A young northeastern journalist from Manipur is fighting cancer in the All India Institute of Medical Science (AIIMS), New Delhi. The Imphal-based journalist Sobhapati Samom is presently undergoing treatment for Acute Myloid Leukemia since August last at the Dr BR Ambedkar Institute Rotary Cancer Hospital unit of AIIMS. According to the attending doctors of the medical institution, the treatment has to be continued for another three months. Associated with The Assam Tribune Group of Publications in Guwahati, Mr Samom could not afford the elongated medical expenditure. To continue the costly treatment for the dedicated journalist from the region, all well wishers and fellow journalists are hereby appealed for generous help in cash and kinds. All cheques (or DD) should be sent to Sobhapati Samom (A/C no 6998, Bank of Baroda, Imphal; contact cell no. 98180-22702). From: "Nava Thakuria" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [riverlink] need help Date: 21 Oct 2004 09:45:38 - Attention journalist friends and well wishers. Here is an information for all of you. Regards, Nava Thakuria Eastern Zonal Secretary, National Federation of Newspaper Employees, New Delhi. Secretary, Guwahati Press Club, Guwahati-781001. (M) 98640 44917 Northeastern journalist fighting cancer Appeal for Generous Help Guwahati: A young northeastern journalist from Manipur is fighting cancer in the All India Institute of Medical Science (AIIMS), New Delhi. The Imphal-based journalist Sobhapati Samom is presently undergoing treatment for Acute Myloid Leukemia since August last at the Dr BR Ambedkar Institute Rotary Cancer Hospital unit of AIIMS. According to the atte! nding doctors of the medical institution, the treatment has to be continued for another three months. Associated with The Assam Tribune Group of Publications in Guwahati, Mr Samom could not afford the elongated medical expenditure. To continue the costly treatment for the dedicated journalist from the region, all well wishers and fellow journalists are hereby appealed for generous help in cash and kinds. All cheques (or DD) should be sent to Sobhapati Samom (A/C no 6998, Bank of Baroda, Imphal; contact cell no. 98180-22702). The Manipuri journalists and Northeastern journalists based in New Delhi too have started initiative for fund raising for the treatment of the committed journalist of NE India.Rock, jazz, country, soul & more. Find the music you love on MSN Music! ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
RE: [Assam] NRE Account with ICICI Bank
Hi all There was a time when going to bankwas really something i used to despise . Those uncaring folks at the counter with a damn-do-i-care attitude , long queues and when you finally make it to the cash counter , the cash clerk ( acting as if he is doing some favor by giving me my money ) .It was a real waste of time. How things have changed and for heaven's sake , for the better . Probably bad customer service is gradually eroding SBI's customer base. Rgds JP From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Assam] NRE Account with ICICI Bank Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:59:57 -0500 ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Seized by wanderlust? Have the best vacation ever. Team up with MSN Travel! Hi Rajib: Glad you had a good trip, enjoyed the time and thanks for the nice briefing. Enjoy the time with your mom to the fullest. I think I had the closest moments of my life with my mom when she was here - we talked, we laughed, we fought, we watched tv/movies, we cried, we cooked, we went out -we did everything together - and behind all these - there was a complete serenity within me in those few days realizing that, Ma is here and i've been able to take care of her. I just miss that so terribly - not a single day goes by without remembering (and cherishing) and wishing forthose days again. I'm glad too, to hear that your account is in process and everything went okay. As I menitoned I'm happy with the bank as I mentioned, though the 'representative's coming home' part was mentioned by AKN, and not me. :) It is really very encouraging to know that providing goodcustomer service has been given importance in India now. As I mentioned before, seemsit is going to be like Indian Airlines vs. Jet/Sahara Airways, where you feel like, you get what you paid for. Even at the Delhi/Mumbai airports, the service is getting much better. Smart looking young men/women with walkie-talkies do go around helping passengers everywhere in the airports, including loadingtheir luggageintothose comfortable(shuttle) buses- going from the international airport to the domestic and vice versa. It is quite impressive and a huge improvement over what they had even 10 years back. Well, again: the ATMs are great in ICICI. The cash reciepteven shows your account balance, not that you would want that always!:) SBI's ATMs as well as the service and the so called rules (ofRBI)arestill somewhatridiculus. As far as I can tell only SBI's cards are usable there. If you have an ATM card from any bank here, you don't even need to go to SBI. They can just drive people crazy. Itwas good to hear from you and was even better to see you calling me di.:) With best wishes, -- Alpana-di. From: Rajib Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ASSAMNETCOLORADO [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] NRE Account with ICICI Bank Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Hi everyone, I was in Guwahati recently for a 2 week vacation. Took up Alpanadi's advice on ICICI Bank. She was right on the dot and my experience was great. Zaheer Aftab, a sales exec with ICICI Bank, braved the horrible, horrible roads into Lal Ganesh (more on that later), came home and completed the formalities in one sitting right there. He was courteous, smart and efficient. I promised him a reference and here it is. I have also copied him on this e-mail. Anyone who wishes to contact him for opening an account for remitting money can do so. The loop in opening the account is still not complete. I guess the ICICI Bank backoffice was not satisfied with the quality of the photocopy of the passport (photocopy done locally). Zaheer came back to collect it a second time and I hope this account opens without further delay (Zaheer, please note!). I also specifically asked about situations where people are in other places such as Nagaon and he mentioned he will travel to Nagaon and other such places to open accounts, if necessary. Incidentally, the formalities for medical insurance for my Mom (who travelled with me) was also done right at home - this time it was a private insurance company Bajaj Allianz. On the other hand, when I had to go into SBI to exchange the dollars, I met with more surprises than the last time. If you have TCs (Traveller Cheques), the limit at a time is $ 500. If you have Dollar notes, it is $ 1000. Their solution to the problem is that one has to come back on subsequent days to get the entire lot changed. Imagine what it does to folks from Nagaon and so on. I hope this helps. Rajib __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other
[Assam] Astronaut Mike dances Bihu in outer space
Astronaut Mike dances Bihu in outer space GUWAHATI, July 10 Bihu dance in outer space? Yes, the Assamese residents of North America were enthralled to witness the scene of an astronaut dancing Bihu to the tune of Bihu songs with a gamocha around his neck in zero gravity. The astronaut is Mike Fincke, an astronaut in the International Space Station, that revolves around the earth every 90 minutes at a height of 245 miles. Mike is an Assamese Jowai, married to Renita, daughter of Rupesh Saikia and Prabha Saikia, who came to USA in the sixties and now are residents of Houston, Texas. By dancing Bihu in the space, Mike was fulfilling a promise he made to his wife and his big family ,the local Assamese community. The audience was delighted to see Mike dancing, romping and floating in the zero gravity environ of the space station. The Assamese residents of North America at Austin, Texas for its 25th Annual convention on July 3and 4,2004.. The site of celebration was the spacious Renaissance Hotel, where in the Ball Room Hall; they communicated with Mike courtesy NASA in Assamese. Mike, ki khabar? Bhale acha? asked Barada Sarma, chairman of the host committee of Assam Convention 2004. O, khabar bhalei, Sarma uncle, khub bhale acho pat came the reply from the space station. We are proud of you- said another gentleman, bhale bhale ghuri ahiba, machar tenga khaaboloi. o, machar tenga khaabolaagiba replied Mike amidst thunderous applause of the 300-plus strong audience. This is for the first time that a gamocha was taken to a space station ,a Bihu song was played and a Bihu dance was performed in the outer space. Drive away out of trouble. Get a loan against your existing car. ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
RE: [Assam] Bihu
Dig Kwaideo and A' Ba You all do contribute a lot to make this oxom xaal different . Thanx arw bhogobontor kripat Nomoriu jiua asw - dingir uporot mukh khon rakhi . Regards JP From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "DigomborKhuhutiya" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Bihu Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:11:49 -0500 Senehor Digombor bupa: Bihu-bobia morom-seneh-axhix, ei xokolukhini lobahok. Aaji bhale` kei-maahmaan tumar khobor-khatir nepai montu isat-bisat kori aase. Buwarir khobor kene, punakone xoite teora ghoroloi aahile-ne? khobor tu diba. Aajiloi tholu. Dutakoi pendukona lorai xoite tumi bor byosto buli bujilu, buwari-e rondha-boha koribo pora huwa naai nohoy etia-u. Lora-kon hoise buli aamaar gaon-r maanuhe akou 21 dinote` randhoni-ghor xumabo diye` nohoy! Lora-r xaat gun maaph xodaai aamaar xomaajot, jaanaai nohoi. Duk-mukaalite paati eri edin xihoti paatit pori thakutei, duxari hole-u e-thi ekhon pothiaba. Xukolome aasaa buli tetia-he nischoy budh eta aahibo. Punor Bihur axixh aaru moromere`, tumar Baiti. ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam Strike the right balance! News, gossip n fundas! Get it all at MSN Women! ___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
[Assam] Hilarious
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[Assam] Medieval Justice
IANS BHOPAL: In medieval justice rural India style, 13 people in a Madhya Pradesh village burnt their hands after they were forced to pick up a ring from a cauldron of boiling oil to prove they had not stolen a plate worth Rs 20. In meting out instant justice, the village council at Soni in Mandsaur district resorted to superstition and said the innocent would remain unscathed while the guilty would suffer burn injuries.The incident took place Tuesday evening. According to police officials, who have launched a hunt for the accused, it all began when a plate worth Rs. 20 was stolen from the house of Chunni Lal in the village. He took up the matter with the village council with Chunni Lal himself presiding over the meeting. The council summoned the 13 suspects and ruled that the suspects should pick up a ring from a cauldron of boiling oil one by one. All the 13 suffered burn injuries. The police were informed about the incident. However, all the accused had escaped by the time they reached the village. "Chunni Lal, the prime accused in the case, is absconding along with his family," said a Mandsaur police official. Such incidents are not uncommon in Madhya Pradesh. About 18 months ago, a woman in another village of the same district was forced to hold a piece of hot iron on her palms to prove her fidelity. fieruled.gifFiesta Bkgrd.jpg___ Assam mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam
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[Assam] Confer Bharat Ratna on Dr Hazarika
But , why to lobby ?? He deserves the seatwithout any recos. Confer Bharat Ratna on Dr HazarikaBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Sept 24 After projecting Dr Bhupen Hazarika as a candidate for Rajya Sabha seat from the State, the regional Asom Gana Parishad (AGP) has started lobbying for conferment of Bharat Ratna on the cultural icon from the region. In a letter to the Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, the AGP mentioned that, The multi faceted genius in Dr Bhupen Hazarika who is fondly referred as Bhupen da, merits for conferment of Bharat Ranta, the highest honour for a civilian in the country, by virtue of his achievement in different fields in the cultural arena.The AGP letter signed by Dilip Kumar Saikia, the Secretary of the partys legislature wing, further states, Dr Hazarikas contribution towards promoting cultural heritage of the country is highly significant. He has been a successful cultural ambassador of the country in different international cultural festivals.The AGPs letter to the Prime Minister is accompanied by a copy of life sketch of Dr Hazarika underlining his achievements in the field of music, cinema, literature. It may be mentioned that Assam Legislative Assembly in its last budget session unanimously resolved to request the Union Government to consider conferment of Bharat Ratna to Dr Hazarika, the winner of Dada Saheb Phalke Award and Chairman of Sangeet Natak Akademy.Earlier, the regional party had lended its support to send Dr Hazarika to Rajya Sabha from the State following NDA Governments eleventh hour decision to drop his name from the list of presidential nominees to the Upper House. Although AGP has only 21 MLAs in the State Assembly, it outsmarted its opponent particularly the ruling Congress by pronouncing Dr Hazarikas name first as a candidate to Rajya Sabha. With Dr Hazarika later taking a stand that he was willing to go to Rajya Sabha as a consensus choice of all the political parties in the State, almost all the political parties including Congress are now in favour of sending him to the Upper House. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
Re: [Assam] re: from the Sentinel
*** That would not take much to get to the bottom of either. But in anycase, an understanding of Badan's motives would hardly help us understandthe NSCN or Naga motives. They are not analogous at all. !!! In the first place, What was Badan's motives ??? And how can it be inferred that BB's ideology was not similiar with NSCN or ULFA and other such organisations . Are we just giving credence to simple hearsay ( folklore ) or historical dissections . BTW , History Assam History refers BB as a Traitor who betrayed !! Regards JP Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: [Assam] From the AT
But, aren't they doing 'obostha saai byobostha'? Couldany oneblame any of them? God bless them all. A'ba They ain't to blame coz after all they are toiling for their bread and butter . But what about the health hazards , who's gonna take thatresponsibility . somebody's got to streamline things somewhere . regards Jayanta Alpana B. Sarangapani Houston, TX. From: jayanta payeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Assam Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Assam] From the AT Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:09:26 -0700 (PDT) I have seen roadside barbers at work in makeshift " Saloons " with bricks doing the job as rest chairs , air naturally conditioned , and the wall attched with a mirror ( 99 % it's boundary wall ) acting as the dressing table in Guwahati . I guess the barbers are doing brisk bussiness too ! Guwahati, Thursday, July 24, 2003 CITY - Roadside dentists doing brisk but risky business By A Correspondent GUWAHATI, July 23 Cashing in on the misplaced trust of a section of poor patients, roadside dentists are doing brisk business in the city. These roadside dentists can be found near the treasury office, Meghdoot Bhawan and on the footpaths of Fancy Bazar and Bharalumukh. Beside performing the dental works, they also clean the ear and earn nearly Rs 500 per day. Talking to this correspondent, Adil, one such dentist said that he receives 15 to 20 patients everyday. He has learnt ear and teeth works from his father and believes that he is performing his work quiet well. Though I have not undergone any such training, my patients are always satisfied and my work is cheaper, he said. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
Re: [Assam] Purohits and booze
it's a difference only by name . be it monk or priest or sadhu or purohit .anyway , all of them are supposed to be holy ?? "D Deka"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is a difference. Sadhu = Monk Purohit = Priest DilipAlpana Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadhus and purohits - are theysame? - Original Message - From: Anjan K. Nath To: D Deka ; Chan Mahanta ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Purohits and booze Shouldn't we include the other colours like white, purple, and black too, as worn by the other holier than thou masqueraders buggering little choir boys and growing fat on the tithes? AKN - Original Message - From: D Deka To: Chan Mahanta ; Anjan K. Nath ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Purohits and booze Was the offense one of being a red robed ascetic (?) and setting the wrong message by drinking or was it one of drinking in a public place and being a nuisance? I suspect there have been incidents at Kamakhya and other places where "Bhandas" have disturbed peace and now police vigilance has been placed to prevent incidents. We all know what kind of people masquerade under those red and saffron robes. Dilip Deka Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:37 PM +0800 6/25/03, Anjan K. Nath wrote: Was thinking over the incident where a purohit at Kamakhya wascaught with a bottle of booze. Wonder what was so wrong that it merited alal-topee nabbing him; now would they do the same or indulge in itthemselves or turn a blind eye to the "bhang" smoking and drinking duringSivaratri and other occasions? AKN*** My point exactly! Just because a guy presents himself as a Sadhu doesnot automatically makes him something extraordinary and above the realm ofhuman frailities. Why should we hold him to a higher standard than a pillarof society, a high ranking bureaucrat or a top police official--who allindulge in the intoxicants?cm___Assam mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://pik! es! peak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Do you Yahoo!?SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Do you Yahoo!?SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
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Re: [Assam] Re: correction
No bets !! i guess to pass the final judgement , it ( sampling process ) might run into several weeks or months From: "Rajen Barua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: correctionDate: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:40:44 -0500 My two cents. May be you should take another sample of two days after another two weeks. It does not suggests anything but at least that way you will get a betteraverage. Thanks Barua From: "Faridur Rahman Choudhury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Assam] Re: correction Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 21:07:46 +0530 message3.txt Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Hi all When I subscribed to this mailing list I expected some bright and intellectual Assamese people living in different parts of the world to be sharing their experiences and knowledge to others. But from the mails I've been reading since the last two days since I subscribed, I can only draw one conclusion. The members of this list only fling mud on each other. They are only discussing money and their respective associations and are hell bent on pulling each other's hair. No matter wherewe are, we Assamese can never leave bitching against each other and looking at life with a narrow perspective. Please change for the betterment of Assam. For those living outside India, which the majority of the members of this list are, please share your professional experiences so that those who live in India can learn and be aware of if they happen to move abroad. Personal mails be please communicated to the personal IDs instead of posting in the boards. Regards Faridur Rahman Choudhury RMSI Pvt. Ltd. A-7, Sector - 16 NOIDA - 201301 Phone : +91 118 251 1102 (Off) Mobile : +919891121788 Web: www.designsbyfarid.com (personal)www.rmsi.com (corporate) Original Message Follows From: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Re: correction Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:14:23 -0500 It's magic. It's a whole new world. It's the Windows XP experience. Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
[Assam] AASU on VHP
Priests asked to stay clear of VHP A STAFF REPORTER Guwahati, June 9: The All Assam Students Union (AASU) today appealed to the satras to disassociate themselves from communal forces while calling for a ban on public meetings by communal leaders like the VHPs Praveen Togadia and Jamiat Ulema-i-Hinds Asad Madani. The apex students organisation was reacting to satradhikar (head priest) of Majuli-based Auniati Satra pitambar Deva Goswami sharing the dais at a Hindu congregation from where VHPs international secretary Togadia churned out a highly provocative speech against minority communities while advocating the scrapping of the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunal) Act yesterday. AASU adviser Sammujjal Bhattacharyya told a news conference here today that it would not allow anyone to shatter the foundation of communal harmony and appealed to satradhikars (head priests) not to allow communal forces to influence their ideology. The satras propagate the Vaishnavite philosophy of 16th century saint Srimanta Sankardev and have severed ties with the radical Hinduism of the VHP. Togadia yesterday declared that the VHP would launch an Ayodhya-type agitation against the Bangladeshi Muslim migrants in Assam and distribute one lakh tridents in the state to ensure that every village in Assam has one along with a namghar (prayer hall). Madani had earlier strongly opposed any move to scrap the Act. The AASU said both Togadia and Madani, who had never been part of its six-year-long anti-foreigners movement, must desist from commenting on the IM(DT) Act and dubbed their statements on the issue as highly provocative and detrimental to the states communal harmony. Disagreeing with Togadia who had said yesterday that the AASUs campaign had failed as it was not a united movement of the Hindus, Bhattacharyya said the movement was successful only because it was secular in character. We want the Act repealed by taking into confidence both Hindus and Muslims. Our stand is very clear we want all infiltrators who came to Assam after March 25, 1971, detected and deported, irrespective of their religious faith, he said. Hoping for an amicable solution to the problem, AASU president Amiyo Kumar Bhuyan said the students organisation has gathered support from different minority organisations, including the Muslim Yuba Chatra Parishad to repeal the IM(DT) Act. He said the AASU was working along with the minority organisations to prepare a national register of citizens taking March 25, 1971 as the cut-off year. The United Minorities Front (UMF) has also advocated a united and rational approach to resolve the issue. The AASU will take out a procession on June 12 in all districts and sub-divisional headquarters to mobilise support for the repeal of the Act. Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
[Assam] From the sentinel
we shall swim together , all right but will WE drown together ? We shall swim together : CMGen Singh sworn in new Assam Governor Lt. Gen (retd) Ajai Singh (right) with Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi after the former's swearing-in at the Raj Bhavan in the city on Thursday. (Sentinel) By a Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, June 5: Lt Gen. (retd) Ajai Singh, who was sworn in as the new Governor of Assam here today, received a commitment from Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi of full cooperation in running the affairs of the State. "We shall swim together," Gogoi quipped in reply to a light-hearted comment by Lt Gen. Singh before the media that he would dive into the Brahmaputra should the Chief Minister ask him to do so. The Chief Justice of the Gauhati High Court, Justice P Naolekar administered the oath-of-office and secrecy to Lt Gen Singh at Raj Bhavan in the city. The swearing-in ceremony was attended among others by the Chief Minister, all Cabinet ministers, ministers of state, Opposition leader Brindabon Goswami, and top State Government officials including the Chief Secretary and the Director General of Police. Talking to newsmen soon after the swearing-in, the Governor preferred not to go deeper into a number of problems like infiltration, insurgency etc., that have plagued the State. On reporters query on infiltration from Bangladesh, an area where his predecessor had a difference with the Chief Minister, the new Governor refrained from giving his views on the issue, saying only that infiltration was not a new problem before the State, and he would have to study the ground situation. Responding to questions on the continuation of the Unified Command, Lt Gen Singh did admit that the Unified Command has yielded positive results. He, however, refrained from giving a clear-cut reply, and just said that he would have to go into the details of the situation before commenting on the subject. The all important question on insurgency problem was also responded in a similar fashion by the Governor. When asked on his priority and the tussle between the Chief Minister and his predecessor on some issues, Lt Gen. Singh pointed his finger towards Chief Minister Gogoi and said: "He is my boss. I will dive into the Brahmaputra if he asks me to do so." Mr Gogoi was, however, quick enough to manage the situation saying, "We shall swim together and cross the river." Attired in traditional Rajasthani dress complete with a turban (safa), Lt Gen Singh went to Kamakhya Temple straight from the Lokapriya Gopinath Bordoloi Airport after landing. From the Temple, he went to the Raj Bhavan where he received the guard of honour. Justice Naolekar had to interrupt the oath-taking for sometime as the former Army general continued to read the copy of oath which he had in his hand even before the Chief Justice began the swearing-in proceedings. The sitting arrangement at the Raj Bhavan was also not the way it should have been. Most of the ministers were made to seat in the rear rows. They were behind the officials and other Congress leaders. Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Re: [Assam] Freedom Newsletter
The Center DOES NOT suffer, and that is why it can take the belligerantposition it does. Center gets to stonewall on the backs of the people ofAssam !!! C'da The Centre not only can stonewall , probably can bulldoze on the people of Assam and it seems strong enough to do that . Regards Jayanta At 10:59 AM -0500 6/2/03, Alpana Sarangapani wrote: The Center cannot dwell on the propaganda rhetoric that they won't negotiate unless the ULFA renounces the issue of sovereignty. That is an absurd condition--designed to FAIL before even embarked on. If the ULFAYes it is absurd. But if you don't do any 'era-dhora' from the beginning,what is there to talk?*** You are right. Only problem is that the Center wants the ULFA to giveup its bargaining position EVEN BEFORE it starts talking. That is theabsurd part. It would be different, if the Center breaks off negotiationsbecause the ULFA does not give on the issue. But to expect to give it upBEFORE starting negotiations ???Should it not be that both party should give and take something?*** AGAIN, yes, in the process of negotiations. Not before you start. Wereyou a party to the Center's policy making on this! Alpana ? You sure soundlike one of them? And you don't even speak Hindi :-)!Btw: Is there a difference between 'sovereignty' and 'independence'?*** I don't know the difference, if there is any A.And in the mean time, who suffers? The Center or your own people?*** The Center DOES NOT suffer, and that is why it can take the belligerantposition it does. Center gets to stonewall on the backs of the people ofAssam. Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
[Assam] Caught drinking - pick up the broom !
Caught drinking in Gujarat? Pick up the broom!IANS[ SATURDAY, MARCH 08, 2003 AHMEDABAD: Gujarat plans to soon sweep the drinking habit out of those who dare to violate its prohibition law. If Law Minister Ashok Bhatt has his way, those caught consuming alcohol would have to serve as sweepers in hospitals as part of community service. Bhatt is thinking on the lines of laws slapping people with community service in the United States, Britain and some Europ! ean countries for offences like drinking in public places. Bhatt has told the Assembly that the Bharatiya Janata Party government was considering a proposal under which a person convicted of flouting prohibition laws would not be imprisoned. Instead, the person would be made to clean the civil hospital for the period that would have been the jail term. Under the existing law, those found guilty of drinking alcohol are to be jailed for 20 to 30 days. Chunibhai Vaidya, the president of Gujarat Nashabandhi Mandal, an NGO working for de-addiction and a noted Gandhian, hailed the government's plan as a constructive one. "This will act as a deterrence for those indulging in alcoholism, provided it is implemented stringently. Those punished under this law should be given special uniforms so they can be distinguished from other workers," Vaidya said. Besides sweeping, Vaidya said, the convicts should also be used for other works such as in digging wells or ponds, or constructing roads. If the government's plan goes through, it will come as a relief to jail authorities in the state because most prisons are bursting at their seams with violators of prohibition laws. In 2002, a total of 105,853 people were arrested in Gujarat for violating prohibition. In 2001, 96,080 people were imprisoned for drinking alcohol. Sources said that in Ahmedabad alone, on an average 100 people are arrested daily for drinking. A senior official of the prohibition department said: "However, in only 0.5 percent of cases are the arrested convicted. That too only when the accused pleads guilty. In an overwhelming number of cases, the offenders are acquitted." The Sabarmati Central Jail in Ahmedabad has a capacity of 1,300, but houses about 2,900 inmates. The Central Jail in Vadodara, with a capacity of around 900, has 2,000 inmates. The Surat district jail has exceeded its capacity by 1,000. Besides proposed amendments to prohibition laws, Bhatt also announced the repeal of 240 old laws that had become obsolete and irrelevant.Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more
Re: [Assam] Digboi
More on that incident that happenned at Digboi . I guess the ultras have struck for the second time on oil installations , the earlier one being at Thekeraguri . Seems like the modus operandi is same . Officials: Attack Ignites Indian Refinery 57 minutes ago GAUHATI, India - Separatist rebels fired mortars at an oil refinery in northeastern India, causing a massive fire, officials said Saturday. About 100 workers were evacuated, and no casualties were reported. Latest news: · U.S. Gets Scant New Support for Iraq War AP - Fri Mar 7,10:53 PM ET · Iraq Urges U.N. to Resist War Resolution AP - Fri Mar 7, 9:39 PM ET · Blix Hopes It's Not Too Late to Avoid War AP - Wed Mar 5,10:04 PM ET Special Coverage Officials at the Digboi Oil Refinery in India's northeastern Assam state said they heard two loud blasts at 11:45 p.m. Oil began gushing out of pipes and caught fire. "It was sabotage. Militants fired mortars from a distance," B.N. Das, the administrator of Assam's Tinsukia district, told The Associated Press. The fire broke out in an area that houses 15 storage tanks for petroleum and naphtha, each holding about 1.3 million gallons. Separatist insurgents have been active in nearby areas in the past. Das said it was too early to say which group was involved. The refinery is run by the state-run Indian Oil Corporation, whose interests have previously been targeted by rebels of the United Liberation Front of Asom, the area's main militant group. The army and police in Assam were already on high alert ahead of the March 16 "Soldiers' Day" observed by ULFA cadres. The Digboi oil refinery was set up by India's former colonial British rulers in Assam's thick, hilly forests in 1901, and is one of the country's industrial showpieces. Dozens of firefighters were still trying to douse the flames, said refinery spokesman Haseem Ahmed. The refinery is surrounded by residential areas, and firefighters were trying to prevent the fire from spreading to other tanks, Ahmed said by telephone. Digboi is located 400 miles east of Gauhati, the capital of Assam state. The former ULFA headquarters was located at Lakhi Pathar, a densely forested area about 30 miles east of Digboi. The rebel training camps there have since been destroyed by the army. On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 D Deka wrote :Explosion, fire in Digboi oil refineryPress Trust of IndiaTinsukia (Assam), March 8A major explosion took place in an Indian Oil Corporation (IOC) oil reserve depot tank near Digboi refinery in upper Assam's Tinsukia district on Friday night, police said.The blast occurred around midnight in one of the 5000 kl petrol depot tank of IOC's Asam Oil Division (AOD), police sources from Digboi said.Precautionary measures were also being taken to prevent the flame from engulfing other tanks filled with finished petroleum products.Police sources said that involvement of insurgents could not be ruled out behind the incident, however, no confirmation could be made at the initial stage of investigation.There were panic reactions among the people of Digboi as the blast has taken place at the heart of the town.-Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more
[Assam] Elephant as crime busters
Elephants as crime busters : idea placed before Project Elephant authoritiesManas mahouts think jumbos can bust crime By a Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 27: Imagine an elephant squad to assist in detection of crimes or searching bombs. This might just become a reality if efforts to form an elephant squad in Assam on the lines of dog squads materialize. Squads involving elephants can be a good idea as the disturbances in the elephant corridors, have posed a big threat to the pachyderms. Also with the ban on felling of trees by the Supreme Court, the elephants who were earlier mostly used for carrying timber are left with no work. Also the forests have declined and elephants are having a tough time coping with the pressure from humans. Some mahouts at the Manas National Park struck upon this idea of an elephant squad. They took up the matter to the Park director, Mr Abhijit Rabha who was impressed with the idea. He in turn, put up the matter to the director of Project Elephant, Mr SS Bisht in New Delhi. Mr Bisht said that the only problem that this concept can face is opposition from animal rights organizations. Speaking to The Sentinel, Sangita Goswami of the NGO, People for Animals, said that the concept is a good one, but cruelty to animals should be avoided. She said that elephants who have no problem moving in forests and clayey soil, however, cannot walk fast on metalled roads. She also said that the size of the animals can be a problem for easy movement. She said that the tourism sector can also benefit from the use of pachyderms. For all these, she said that model villages should be built and corridors maintained. The DIG (CID) Mr Kula Saikia taking to The Sentinel said that it is yet to be proved whether elephants can outdo sniffer dogs. He said that at first scientific study should be done on the feasibility of this concept and once it is proved that the elephants can be better equipped for combing operations, the go ahead can be given. Mr Saikia said that if this gets going, the identification made by the pachyderms should be made legally valid as that of the dog squads.Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more
Re : TOI news
A'ba Hi C'da: THis is what happens, when militants get a foothold on society..don't you agree? This whole Burqa issueis disgusting to say , at the least . Let's hope that better senses prevail . From: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: TOI news Hi C'da: THis is what happens, when militants get a foothold on society..don't you agree? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/comp/articleshow?artid=32293098 Militant groups issue Taliban diktats in KashmirAGENCIES[ TUESDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2002 10:10:29 PM ] JAMMU/SRINAGAR: Close on the heels of beheading four women in Rajouri district and the burning of a cigarette shop, militant outfits have directed Muslims to follow a set of guidelines like the Taliban had done in Afghanistan. While in Rajouri the Lashker-e-Jabbar has directed women to wear burqas and men to wear caps and grow beards in keeping with Islamic traditions, another group Hai-e-Allal Fallah threatened to attack shopkeepers who sell liquor or tobacco in Kashmir. This group took responsibility for setting on fire the cigarette shop on Monday in Srinagar. The shopkeeper, Mohammad Shafi Teli was injured in the incident. In a faxed statement to the local news agency, News and Feature Alliance, group spokesman Mohammed bin Qasim said: "Shopkeepers selling cigarettes, tobacco, liquor and other narcotic items should completely close down their businesses at once." "Any shopkeeper or wholesale dealer found violating this diktat will end up like Mohammed Shafi Teli," the statement said. Lashker-e-Jabbar has asked Muslim women to desist from going to schools and colleges, have a male escort while going out of the house and sit separately from men in buses, police sources said here on Tuesday. A circular put up by the group in the Degree College in Rajouri warned people against defying their diktats. Like the Lashker-e-Jabbar, Hai-e-Allal Fallah is also not among known groups operating in Kashmir. Qasim said his group was not affiliated with any other militant outfit or security agency. "Our aim is to cleanse the society of evils like cigarette smoking, drinking and use of narcotics," he said. Earlier, in 1990, the Allah Tigers militant group closed down cinemas, liquor shops and beauty parlours in Kashmir. Srinagar now has two cinema halls and two licensed liquor shops, and they all operate under tight security. Kashmiri people have ignored such diktats in the past and there is lot of public resentment against such circulars. Moreover, major militant groups operating Jammu and Kashmir have desisted from issuing such diktats. ATTACHMENT part 2.2 image/gif name=spacer.gif Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: TOI news
C'da If we areblind or indifferent to them,then our responses won't be any more usefulthan self-serving and sanctimonious platitudes. Don't you think? You are right at that note .Somehow or the other ,more often than not , it seems , as said earlier by some prophets '' People can do anything for religion , fight for religion , cry for religion , die for religion , walk 100 miles backwards for religion , in fact do anything for religion except LIVE for religion . Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi C'da: THis is what happens, when militants get a foothold onsociety..don't you agree?*** Without a doubt. However we must not attempt to judge a whole societyfrom the actions of a few on the fringe. Besides, if that IS happeningtoday, but did not yesterday or the day before, then we must also be ableto analyze WHY and acknowledge if not help eradicate the cause/s. If we areblind or indifferent to them,then our responses won't be any more usefulthan self-serving and sanctimonious platitudes. Don't you think?c-daAt 10:18 AM -0800 12/25/02, jayanta payeng wrote: A'ba society..don't you <AGREE?This whole Burqa issue is disgusting to say , at the lea! st . Let's hopethat better senses prevail .From: "Alpana Sarangapani"To:Subject: TOI news Hi C'da: THis is what happens, when militants get a foothold onsociety..don't you agree? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/xml/comp/articleshow?artid=32293098 Militant groups issue Taliban diktats in KashmirAGENCIES[ TUESDAY, DECEMBER 24, 2002 10:10:29 PM ]JAMMU/SRINAGAR: Close on the heels of beheading four women in Rajouridistrict and the burning of a cigarette shop, militant outfits havedirected Muslims to follow a set of guidelines like the Taliban had donein Afghanistan.dex.html/115165@Bottom1Whil! e in Rajouri the Lashker-e-Jabbar hasdirected women to wear burqas and men to wear caps and grow beards inkeeping with Islamic traditions, another group Hai-e-Allal Fallahthreatened to attack shopkeepers who sell liquor or tobacco in Kashmir.This group took responsibility for setting on fire the cigarette shop onMonday in Srinagar. The shopkeeper, Mohammad Shafi Teli was injured in theincident.In a faxed statement to the local news agency, News and Feature Alliance,group spokesman Mohammed bin Qasim said: "Shopkeepers selling cigarettes,tobacco, liquor and other narcotic items should completely close downtheir businesses at once.""Any shopkeeper or wholesale dealer found violating this diktat will endup like Mohammed Shafi Teli," the statement said.Lashker-e-Jabbar has asked Mus! lim women to desist from going to schoolsand colleges, have a male escort while going out of the house and sitseparately from men in buses, police sources said here on Tuesday.A circular put up by the group in the Degree College in Rajouri warnedpeople against defying their diktats.Like the Lashker-e-Jabbar, Hai-e-Allal Fallah is also not among knowngroups operating in Kashmir. Qasim said his group was not affiliated withany other militant outfit or security agency."Our aim is to cleanse the society of evils like cigarette smoking,drinking and use of narcotics," he said.Earlier, in 1990, the Allah Tigers militant group closed down cinemas,liquor shops and beauty parlours in Kashmir. Srinagar now has two cinemahalls and two licensed liquor shops, and they all operate under tights! ecurity.Kashmiri people have ignored such diktats in the past and there is lot ofpublic resentment against such circulars. Moreover, major militant groupsoperating Jammu and Kashmir have desisted from issuing such diktats. ATTACHMENT part 2.2 image/gif name=spacer.gifDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! MailPlus - Powerful. Affordable.Sign up nowHave a nice day ! Jayanta PayengDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Fwd: discussions etc !
sanjoy hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:33:39 + (GMT)From: sanjoy hazarika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ur discussion, from sanjoy hazarikaTo: jayanta payeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>i have seen the correspondence on the judges. a few points: let's be logical in discussions, nothysterical like some Sentinel editorials (I rememberone which even said that a few thousand armedintruders could sweep into Assam from Bangladeshwithout anyone being able to anything about it --well, whoever wrote that piece doesn't know that whensuch a situation is apprehended and develops, thecharge of the border goes to the army and not the bsf.and the army is capable to dealing with some armedintruders, at the least.two, I think it's a stupid decision to sendincompetent and supposedly corrupt judges out toanywhere in India, not just Assam. <B! R>three, i don't know of any country in the world -- atleast a democracy -- which enables the people of astate or province to elect/select a judge. we pickthe agp for political office and they make a mess. wepick the congres, and they make another mess. judges-- please stay away from that one. leave that to thoseempowered to do so under the constitution -- andremember they sent such judges after repeat afterconsulting the sitting chief justice of that highcourt!!we have a constitution which, flawed as it may be, isone of the finest documents in the history of theworld and has come to the rescue of people time andagain -- and thrown up outstanding people to fight forpublic rights: H.R. Khanna (remember habeas corpus inthe emergency or perhaps some of you are too young toremember this; we resisted the emergency and so didsome courts); Seshan and Lyngdoh, Niloy Dutta, theNational Human Rights Commission! (JUstice Verma) andothers to name a few. they've forced the government tochange its views, position, acknowledge its mistakesand forced changes in earthquake relief, child labouretc. we could go on. but, always, i have felt that we of the ne think toooften with our hearts and not our heads. the formeris important and a combination of heart and head isthe best. but let's not substitute the former for thelatter; it is physically unhealthy to say the least.sanjoy hazarika__Do You Yahoo!?Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.comHave a nice day ! Jayanta PayengDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: Fwd: discussions etc !
Dilip da I don't fully agree with what sanjoy da said but he did make some valid points . Below was my response . D Deka wrote :Jayanta,Do you agree with what Mr. Hazarika said? How about the others in the net?Dilip Deka jayanta payeng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sanjoy da Somehow i feel that logic and hysteria tends to move along hand in hand . Whenever there is a discussionon any topic , there's bound to be some logic , some fallacy , some hearsayand may result into sometimes heated discussions . Not only sentinel , I believe there are many daily local assamese newspapers / newsmagazines who indulges in rabble rousing to increase circulation. The unfortunate part is that people tend to draw inferences based on newspaper reports .So if some news agency reports that blah and blah colloborated with say ULFA/SULFAetc in a misadventure and the same is reported in the media , then blah and blah stands crucified in the eyes of the people ( atleast till blah convincingly proves with sufficient and adequate evidence that he is not involved ) . Till proved innocent blahs family have to suffer humilations. That's not fair . Regards Jayanta sanjoy hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have seen the correspondence on the judges. a few points: let's be logical in discussions, nothysterical like some Sentinel editorials (I rememberone which even said that a few thousand armedintruders could sweep into Assam from Bangladeshwithout anyone being able to anything about it --well, whoever wrote that piece doesn't know that whensuch a situation is apprehended and develops, thecharge of the border goes to the army and not the bsf.and the army is capable to dealing with some armedintruders, at the least.two, I think it's a stupid decision to sendincompetent and supposedly corrupt judges out toanywhere in India, not just Assam. three, i don't know of any country in the world -- atleast a democracy -- which enables the people of astate or province to elect/select a judge. we pickthe agp for political ! office and they make a mess. wepick the congres, and they make another mess. judges-- please stay away from that one. leave that to thoseempowered to do so under the constitution -- andremember they sent such judges after repeat afterconsulting the sitting chief justice of that highcourt!!we have a constitution which, flawed as it may be, isone of the finest documents in the history of theworld and has come to the rescue of people time andagain -- and thrown up outstanding people to fight forpublic rights: H.R. Khanna (remember habeas corpus inthe emergency or perhaps some of you are too young toremember this; we resisted the emergency and so didsome courts); Seshan and Lyngdoh, Niloy Dutta, theNational Human Rights Commission (JUstice Verma) andothers to name a few. they've forced the government tochange its views, position, acknowledge its mistakesand forced changes in earthquake relief, child labo! uretc. we could go on. but, always, i have felt that we of the ne think toooften with our hearts and not our heads. the formeris important and a combination of heart and head isthe best. but let's not substitute the former for thelatter; it is physically unhealthy to say the least.sanjoy hazarika__Do You Yahoo!?Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.com Have a nice day ! Jayanta Payeng Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up nowDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
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Hi A 'ba What do they think of it? and why? Before it was "a place where you can get malaria, it is a jungle, and it is in Burma - not in India" (talk about ignorance! ), now what? Anyway, what is so wrong with Gauhati? !!! It's a jungle out there . Catch them out there in the wild ! It's wild all around , survival hangs around with destiny ! But where does goes guwahati fit in the wilderness ? After all , it's the Gateway of the North East India. Catch words ! Animals , to be more retrospective , appears more humane in their actions / deeds than most of us , humans. Their actons seems to be guided by their emotions and their ability to recoginse their benefactor . And the saying goes on " Till wise men prevails " . Regards JP Hi C'da: ones. The convicted ones, the ones with a stained character, those who are transferred to Guahati as PUNISHMENT , 'paapor pryositto'. And that too done openly after a public announcement of the punishment. Nothing subtle Look at the nerve of those people to even think that being transferred to Gauhati is a punishment. What do they think of it? and why? Before it was "a place where you can get malaria, it is a jungle, and it is in Burma - not in India" (talk about ignorance! ), now what? Anyway, what is so wrong with Gauhati? Do they think that it is the place where they can not commit any kind of 'paap' anymore - (thus it is a sacred place)? or do they think'paapi's like them should live in Gauhati? From: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bharat B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sentinel Editorial Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:35:21 -0600 The common people in Assam are not outraged about the current controversy of the transfer of judges. ** First off, it is not about transfer of ANY judge. It is about the SOILED ones. The convicted ones, the ones with a stained character, those who are transferred to Guahati as PUNISHMENT , 'paapor pryositto'. And that too done openly after a public announcement of the punishment. Nothing subtle at all. Now then, let us take the issue of outrage one step at a time. I have no grounds to dispute the comment "--The common people in Assam are not outraged--". Maybe they are ignorant of its ramifications. May be they have been desensitized. Maybe they have no sense of self-respect. But what about YOU? Does it matter to you? Do you care? I do. Unfortunately my concerns do not count any more. I left long ago. Assuming YOU do care, why should we think you are an exception? That you care, but others are apathetic? But I won't say that could not happen. I'll have to take your word for it. But those who DO know the difference, have a responsibility of pointing it out to their fellow men as a civic duty. Don't they? Shouldn't they? Are the current crop of Judges in Guahati High court are upright? I see politics in the whole episode. ** I have no clue. But I don't need to. We must start with the principle first. Should the the judiciary of a state in a federal republic be appointed by an imperial power, from afar, and that on the basis of THEIR perception as to who deserves a qualified individual with integrity and who don't? If there is truth to the Sentinel Editorial, then we know the colonial rulers have decided, Assam is a destination to which only the candidates for PUNISHMENT or the incompetent is set aside. Is that an acceptable situation? ** Once we are past the conceptual stage, the stage that deals with the principles, then we can go into the merits or lack thereof of the individuals. I have no clue about who Mongiia might be or what his credentials or baggages might be. It is a secondary issue. It is the principle--that the people of Assam have a right to CHOOSE WHO will be the judges to adjudicate conflicts in their highest court, that is crucial. An imperial center has no right to usurp that right is how I see it. I would submit, Assam has more than enough of a field of highly qualified people of the best of integrity to man those positions. Would you not? Finally, Assam high court judges are NOT the only positions that are destinations for the discredited, the corrupt, or the inept. It has been a well known fact for decades that many a civil servant has been sent to Assam as punishment too. And if not SENT as a punishment, at least has been viewed as such by the individuals on the recieving end of such postings. Should Assam not wake up to it? Or pretend it is an accident, and there is not a pattern set over decades to these? cm At 6:08 PM -0500 12/3/02, Bharat B wrote: The common people in Assam are not outraged about the current controversy of the transfer of judges. Are the current crop of Judges in Guahati High court are upright? I see politics in the whole episode. Where were the Bar Associations when their sons and daughters were given legitimacy by Judge Mongia declaring tainted APSC
Re: News Heading
Talking about lapse in the system or as Cda says the follies and misdeeds of AUTHORITIES . The body count reads six civilians dead and also two security persons ( one of them is a Major ) . And the report also says that the mob of villagers ( numbering hundreds ) , attacked with vintage weapons . And that the Major was killed with a axe . There is the report that says after the encounter the security forces fled chased by HUNDREDS of angry villagers . Does that imply that the army guys in civvies were ill equipped ? in terms of weapons and technology ? Say , in lieu of the villagers , they had to encounter ULFA or any other rebel underground elements , then what would have happened ? Probably , the HEADLINES would have been different . Regards JPDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Fwd : What a drive !!!
This is a real incident that happened near Lonavala in Maharastra , recently though it sounds something out of the X-Files or from Alfred Hitchcock presents ! A guy drives from Mumbai to Pune and decides not to take the expressway, as he wants to see the scenery. The inevitable happens and when he reaches the ghats his car breaks down hes stranded miles from nowhere. Having no choice he starts walking on the side of the road , hoping to get a lift to the nearest human habitation. Its dark and raining and pretty soon hes wet and shivering .The night rolls on and no car goes by , the monsoon rains are so strong he can hardly see a few feet ahead . Suddenly he sees a car coming towards him . It slows and then stops next to him without thinking the guy opens the cars door and jumps in . Seated in the back , he leans forward to thank the person who had saved him when he realises there is nobody behind the wheel !! Even though theres no one in the front seat and no sound of the engine , the car starts moving slowly .The guy looks at the road ahead and sees a curve coming ( remember , this is in the hills and there is a steep drop beyond the curve). Scared almost to death he starts to pray , begging the Lord to save his life . He hasnt come out of shock, when just before he hits the curve , a hand appears through the window and moves the wheel .The car makes the curve safely and continues on the road to the next bend.The guy , now paralysed with terror , watches how the hand appears every time they are before a curve and moves the steering wheel just enough to get the car around each bend. Finally , the guy sees light ahead . Gathering his courage , he wrenches open the door of the silent car , scrambles out and runs as hard as he can towards the lights. Its a small town . Wet and in deep shock , he goes to the roadside dhaba and asks for a drink ( hard ) . They find some hooch and give him a shot. And he starts telling whoever is in the dhaba about the horrible experience hes just been through. A silence envelopes everybody when they realise the guy isnt drunk , and is really frightened hes crying and shaking. So they give him more hooch and talk about what they should do whether to call the police or find a priest. But just then two guys , Santa and Banta , walk into the dhaba . And then Santa says Look, Banta thats the jerk that got in the car when we were pushing it .Have a nice day ! Jayanta PayengDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Fwd Re: [Northeast-Forum) Sanjoy Hazarika comment on query on terrorist attacks
I would like to forward this mail discussing terrorism and Mr Sanjoy Hazarika's comments on the subject. FYI , he is a reputed Assamese journalist. He can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards JP sanjoy hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Taylor:I have a problem with a way the world and especiallythe media uses the word terrorist and terrorism thesedays (global war etc. -- whose globe, whose war?). While the governments of the world may rush to redfineterrorism, may i poinnt out that in the north easterncontext, many of these movements have a strongpolitical and ideological and even communityunderpinning; certainly in the case of the nagas,there is widespread support for the cause, if not thefronts who claim to represent the people. There is a clear line between terrorism, insurgencyand militants as well as popular movements. so let'snot merely go by police or governmental definitions ofproblems in what is an extremely complex andchallenging region.Sanjoy Hazarika--- omu Dutta Baruah [EMAIL PROTECTED]&! gt;wrote: dear john, try the assampolice.com site maybeyou'll find it there...regards amu On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 a a wrote : Hello, everyone, I want to know the number of terrorism incidents, the number of civilians and security died in these incidents in the states of Assam, Nagaland, Manipuri and Tripura for at least 1993 and 1994. If you have these data for 1980-2001, that is even better. If you have these data, will you kindly provide me. Or it will be greatly appreciatedly if you can tell me how to find these data. Yours sincerely John, Tylor- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better __Do You Yahoo!?Everything you'll ever need on one web pagefrom News and Sport to Email and Music Chartshttp://uk.my.yahoo.comTo Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Temple terror through the eyes of survivors
A real life story on Faith and of a brave young security man . Temple terror through the eyes of survivors Basharat Peer in Jammu Courage, faith and love survived Sunday's terrorist attack on the Raghunath temple in Jammu, with ordinary people displaying extraordinary valour and presence of mind. Priest Jaigopal Shastri is a pale, weak man with grenade splinters in his legs. He needs support to cover the seven yards from his hospital bed to the toilet. Shastri, who hails from a family of priests, was doing on Sunday evening what he has been doing for 25 year -- conducting prayers at the 160-year-old temple. "I was in the main temple in the centre of the complex with two more priests and some devotees, when we heard the first explosion. It has happened before. So we knew instantly what it was," he said. Chaos followed. The terrorist had forced his way through the main checkpoint of the temple. "A policeman asked him to stop, but he pushed him and ran towards the main temple building. I ran after him, but he turned back holding a grenade in his hand," recalled Darshan Kumar, a temple guard. A lean man with thick moustaches, Kumar was waiting for his shift to get over when the incident occurred. "Then he threw the grenade. I closed my eyes and left myself to God. Only God could save me," he added. The blast killed a Central Reserve Police Force man and injured some, including Kumar, who carried three splinters in his leg to the surgeon's table. "I will go back to guard the temple once I am fit. God saved me," he said. As Kumar fell, the terrorist moved into the complex housing the main temple. That is where Shastri was huddled along with ten people. Security forces had reached the scene and a gunfight raged. Shastri and his companions got into the main temple and bolted the wooden door. "We were barely in when some women devotees knocked at the door. They wanted to hide. Panditji opened the door for them and they entered," said Raghubeer Singh, another guard. The terrorist threw a grenade the moment Shastri opened the door. The explosion injured eight, including Shastri. "If the door had opened a little later, all those women would have died waiting outside," Singh added. As the first grenade exploded inside the Raghunath temple, Assistant Commandant (CRPF) Y N Rai sat with his wife and one year old son at his official residence some kilometres away. "The Raghunath temple has been attacked," a phone call from his headquarters said. Two hours later, Rai, a law graduate who joined the forces after failing to make it to the Indian Administrative Service, was crawling inside the Raghunath temple. "The terrorist was hiding behind a pillar, next to the main temple building. There was a curtain hiding him... I saw him and fired," Rai remembered. He had not missed his target. The terrorist fell dead. But by that time, Rai said, "my in-laws had seen me on television going into the temple. They did not stop crying till I called them later in the night." There was another battle the next morning. In a Shiv temple at Panjbaktar locality, not far from the Raghunath temple, another terrorist engaged the forces. The securitymen surrounded the terrorist, who had moved into a nearby residence. Rai went into an adjacent building and kept throwing grenades into the house. There was no response. Sure that he had killed the guy, Rai went in, firing in different directions. But silence greeted him. He was about to leave when he realised something was not alright. "I turned around and fired," Rai said. But he was a little late; the terrorist had opened fire. Both fell. Rai received three bullets but survived, and now his left arm is in a cast. The terrorist was not so lucky. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now
Re: India Since 1947
It seems like there is a uncanny resemblence between the so called Real Assamese and ARI ( who , some summers back , tried to create a flutter in this net with some very discordant notes on the same kind of subject which RA floated ) . Now , I am no Sherlock Holmes . The mask is same with the tag of the Real Assamese , the same insecurity ( god knows from whom ) , grievences and the condescending attitude towards fellow netters . Is it just a deja vu or mere coincidence . Regards JPDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site
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C'da Maybe it's not insecurity and it is definitely not fear too . But why hide oneself under someone's veil and spit venom on others . Maybe SoBo himself can provide the right answer .It's a guessing job !. Regards Jayanta Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J:I don't know what insecurities you all see in Sonjib Bordoloi's note. Justbecause he raised a voice of criticism about India, does not mean he isinsecure, about anything. Too many folks have chosen to ASSUME a lot ofstuff to get on his case, but none addressed the points he raised.I doubt it is the same person as ARI, mainly because ARI's gripes were theSULFAand kharkhowa ex-pats. But SoBo does not complain about kharkhowa expatsacross the board-just their defense of Indian policies, right or wrong.But I don't believe that either SoBo or ARI are residents of Assam. Morethan likely, they are both from the USA.c-daAt 11:09 AM -0800 11/18/02, jayanta payeng wrote:It seems like there is a uncanny resemblence between the so called RealAssamese and ARI ( who , some summers back , tried to creat! e a flutter inthis net with some very discordant notes on the same kind of subjectwhich RA floated ) . Now , I am no Sherlock Holmes .The mask is same with the tag of the Real Assamese , the same insecurity( god knows from whom ) , grievences and the condescending attitude towards fellow netters .Is it just a deja vu or mere coincidence .RegardsJPDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo!Web Hosting - Let the expert host your siteHave a nice day ! Jayanta PayengDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site
Assam-Nagaland border inhabitants deprived of basic facilities
Assam-Nagaland border inhabitants deprived of basic facilitiesFrom Our CorrespondentGOLAGHAT, Nov 10 The people of a vast area of Golaghat district, adjacent to the Assam-Nagaland border, have been badly neglected by the Government of Assam. The inhabitants of the sensitive border area, particularly Shisupani, Kashomari, Sarupani, Telishal, Velouguri, Ratanpur, Dayangpur and Kadamguri in D sector of reserve forest area have been lacking bus communication for more than eight months.The Velouguri wooden bridge which is the most important bridge of Merapani-Uriamghat PWD road, was badly damaged eight months ago and since then it has not been repaired. As a result, buses and other vehicles have not plied on this road since. People of the big border area have no direct communication with Merapani and Golaghat district headquarter. People of the interior areas have to travel on foot a distance of above 15 km to reach Merapani. When this Correspondent recently visited the areas of Shishupani, Kashomari, Telishal, Merapani and Velouguri it was observed that the government has not paid interest to development in the areas.The condition of primary and ME schools of the area are in very bad shape. The Shisupani high school, which was established in 1978, has been playing a pivotal role in the field of education among the children of the border area. But it is a matter of great surprise that this important high school has not yet been upgradedDo you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive medley & videos from Greatest Hits CD
Re: Re From the AT
Baruah Da But , these'' s ' and ' x' factors are more often then not, tends tocreate more confusionsalike . One of the factors , maybe is the fact that,languages , tends to be more colloquial. Regards Jayanta From: Sanjib Baruah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Re From the ATI faced the problem when I wrote my book India Against Itself. Afterconsulting a number of linguists (including the leading expert onIndo-European languages at the University of Chicago), I too went in favorusing `x' in some cases and included the following `Note ontransliteration'at the beginning of the book. Please excluse the technicallanguage (they are not all my terms so much as that of the linguists I hadconsulted). "Transliteration of Assamese words and names according to common Indicnorms often yields an English spelling that is at variance with the actualpronounciation. It is especially inaccurate to follow Indic convention anduse the letter "s" to represent the Assamese velar fricative. I will usethe "x" to represent this fricative. The velar fricative appearsfrequently in the Assamese language, indeed even in the names of theplace, the language, and the people. The Assamese call themselves andtheir language `Axomiya' and their place `Axom.' The sound is similar tothe "ch" sounds in German "acht" and Scottish "loch," and to the "ga"sound in Sotho (as in the name of the South African province Gauteng). Iwill, however, not use "x" in the case of common proper nouns where theEnglish spelling with an "s" has broad usage. The sound conventionallyrepresented by "s," however, is not always a velar fricative in Assamese.In certain consonant clusters, the letter "s" is an accuraterepresentation of the Assamese sound."SBOn Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Chan Mahanta wrote: I am not one with any expertise in literature or linguistics. But from a purely lay man's perspective, I see the trend of using the 'x' letter of the Roman alphabet as a REPRESANTION of the 'dontyo xo' sound. In fact of ALL 'xo' sounds. Because, unlike in Sanskrit or Bengali, we the Assamese speakers DO NOT differentiate between a 'dontyo', murdhonyo or taalobyo 'xo' sound. And we have NO need to continue using a REDUNDANT differentiation of three 'xo's while representing with the Roman Alphabet. The other issue that is closely intertwined with this seeming controversy is the Assamese identity. It is an effort at asserting it, by further distancing itself from how the Bengalis represent their 'donty', murdhonyo or taalobyo so', sho' sounds. They have a good reason for it. They pronounce them differently. But the Assamese have no need for it, other than perhaps to pay homage to a Sanskritic heritage and thereby to a pan-Indian one. I am for 'X' :-). Thanks to Hazarika da for the UK Asam Sahitya Sabha's response. It will be nice to hear US ASS's too if someone is listening. I am sure it is NOT that controversial to shy away from :-).c Rajen: Why don't you post your explanation as a response to the AT. It might get the ball rolling on an useful discussion. At 12:01 AM -0600 11/5/02, Rajen Barua wrote: I think Mr Sarma's writing itself is confusing. That 'x' is used for the Assamese sound /x/ is not a new development. To know this, one should study the Assamese language thorugh writings of Assamese linguistics like Dr Bani Kanta Kakoty, and others. What is confusing to Assamese is to use S for the Assamese sound X like Asom for Axom; Sibsagar for Xiboxagor etc. This is due to our domination by the British who used S for our X sound simply because the English language does not have this sound. It is time that we should free ourselves from the cultural domination.Many European languages have this X sound. The sound is written either by the letter X or CH in those languages. Russian: ( Xruchev / Chexov) German:( Bach; Scotish: Loch;) Greek:( Xarish etc.)Assamese is a unique Indo-European language where this X sound is still preserved. We have lost this sound in many Assamese words like Sarma (Xorma); Saikia (Xoikia) Das (Dax). We should now try to preserve what we have by using the X in our Roman script Assamese.Rajen BaruaFrom: Chan Mahanta Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [aana] From the AT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:50:54 -0600 The following letter to the editor is from our own Dr. Atul Sarma of Louisville. What are Oxom Xahitya Xobha, US and UK branches' views ? And netters' ? cm :-) Phonetic confusion Sir, - In recent years a group of youthful authors publicise , especially in internet publications, the exclusive use of 'x' for replacing the "Dontya s" in writing Assamese words in Roman alphabets. Some of the words are: Assam as "Axom", Asomiya as "Axomiya", Asam Sahitya Sabha as "Axom Xahitya Xabha" etc. Phonetically, it becomes
Re: Re From the AT
Baruah Da But , these'' s ' and ' x' factors are more often then not, tends tocreate more confusionsalike . One of the factors , maybe is the fact that,languages , tends to be more colloquial. Regards Jayanta From: Sanjib Baruah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Re From the ATI faced the problem when I wrote my book India Against Itself. Afterconsulting a number of linguists (including the leading expert onIndo-European languages at the University of Chicago), I too went in favorusing `x' in some cases and included the following `Note ontransliteration'at the beginning of the book. Please excluse the technicallanguage (they are not all my terms so much as that of the linguists I hadconsulted). "Transliteration of Assamese words and names according to common Indicnorms often yields an English spelling that is at variance with the actualpronounciation. It is especially inaccurate to follow Indic convention anduse the letter "s" to represent the Assamese velar fricative. I will usethe "x" to represent this fricative. The velar fricative appearsfrequently in the Assamese language, indeed even in the names of theplace, the language, and the people. The Assamese call themselves andtheir language `Axomiya' and their place `Axom.' The sound is similar tothe "ch" sounds in German "acht" and Scottish "loch," and to the "ga"sound in Sotho (as in the name of the South African province Gauteng). Iwill, however, not use "x" in the case of common proper nouns where theEnglish spelling with an "s" has broad usage. The sound conventionallyrepresented by "s," however, is not always a velar fricative in Assamese.In certain consonant clusters, the letter "s" is an accuraterepresentation of the Assamese sound."SBOn Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Chan Mahanta wrote: I am not one with any expertise in literature or linguistics. But from a purely lay man's perspective, I see the trend of using the 'x' letter of the Roman alphabet as a REPRESANTION of the 'dontyo xo' sound. In fact of ALL 'xo' sounds. Because, unlike in Sanskrit or Bengali, we the Assamese speakers DO NOT differentiate between a 'dontyo', murdhonyo or taalobyo 'xo' sound. And we have NO need to continue using a REDUNDANT differentiation of three 'xo's while representing with the Roman Alphabet. The other issue that is closely intertwined with this seeming controversy is the Assamese identity. It is an effort at asserting it, by further distancing itself from how the Bengalis represent their 'donty', murdhonyo or taalobyo so', sho' sounds. They have a good reason for it. They pronounce them differently. But the Assamese have no need for it, other than perhaps to pay homage to a Sanskritic heritage and thereby to a pan-Indian one. I am for 'X' :-). Thanks to Hazarika da for the UK Asam Sahitya Sabha's response. It will be nice to hear US ASS's too if someone is listening. I am sure it is NOT that controversial to shy away from :-).c Rajen: Why don't you post your explanation as a response to the AT. It might get the ball rolling on an useful discussion. At 12:01 AM -0600 11/5/02, Rajen Barua wrote: I think Mr Sarma's writing itself is confusing. That 'x' is used for the Assamese sound /x/ is not a new development. To know this, one should study the Assamese language thorugh writings of Assamese linguistics like Dr Bani Kanta Kakoty, and others. What is confusing to Assamese is to use S for the Assamese sound X like Asom for Axom; Sibsagar for Xiboxagor etc. This is due to our domination by the British who used S for our X sound simply because the English language does not have this sound. It is time that we should free ourselves from the cultural domination.Many European languages have this X sound. The sound is written either by the letter X or CH in those languages. Russian: ( Xruchev / Chexov) German:( Bach; Scotish: Loch;) Greek:( Xarish etc.)Assamese is a unique Indo-European language where this X sound is still preserved. We have lost this sound in many Assamese words like Sarma (Xorma); Saikia (Xoikia) Das (Dax). We should now try to preserve what we have by using the X in our Roman script Assamese.Rajen BaruaFrom: Chan Mahanta Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [aana] From the AT Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:50:54 -0600 The following letter to the editor is from our own Dr. Atul Sarma of Louisville. What are Oxom Xahitya Xobha, US and UK branches' views ? And netters' ? cm :-) Phonetic confusion Sir, - In recent years a group of youthful authors publicise , especially in internet publications, the exclusive use of 'x' for replacing the "Dontya s" in writing Assamese words in Roman alphabets. Some of the words are: Assam as "Axom", Asomiya as "Axomiya", Asam Sahitya Sabha as "Axom Xahitya Xabha" etc. Phonetically, it becomes
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Hi all I would like to share one hilarious experience with one of my close buddy . That time , he ( Himankar Barooah / Bura ) was in Tashkent , Russia . We knew each other since childhood . We scheduled , that we will meet in Delhi . After we met, He told that lets go to the Jama Masjid area . I asked why . He said ; I gotta buy some books . Then we went there , and I found that we had landed in a Islamic store , with books displayed all around , here and there . I found myself lost . Then Bura , took out a piece of paper , then addressing to the shopkeeper , blurted out something and the shopkeeper responded and it went on for sometime , and by that time he had bought a few books . What he blurted out , I could not comprehend .! . Then I asked him Oi , toi Arabic language ketia xikili ? . He gave a grin . Then he showed me the piece of paper . It was something like this actually , one of his friends ( from UAE ) had asked him to get some religious texts ,, and since it was not available at Tashkent and since B will be in Delhi enroute back and forth , so , why not get it from Jama Masjid . The funniest part of it is that this guy gave him a list of books to be bought and in the left column he mentioned the name of the book / author ..etc in Arabic , and in the right column the same was mentioned in Russian so that Bura can say it . and he did that convincingly ! And all the while I thought that B was speaking in Arabic . Regards JayantaDo you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
Re:NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Says Pakistan Gave Technology to North Korea
Dilip Da Once the cat is out of the bag , then the pandora's box is going to be invoked , once again . So it maybe fun time for the peeking-tom papparazzis , a frowning Musharraf, overtime for US intelligence officials , a candid Bush and a grinning Vajpayee saying we knew the root was in Pak . Regards Jayanta -- Orignal Message --From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Says Pakistan Gave Technology to North Korea ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: NYTimes.com Article: U.S. Says Pakistan Gave Technology to North Korea This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED]The cat is out of the bag now. Can we take this as a credible report? Or does someone have some information to the contrary?[EMAIL PROTECTED]U.S. Says Pakistan Gave Technology to North KoreaOctober 18, 2002By DAVID E. SANGER and JAMES DAO WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 - American intelligence officials haveconcluded that Pakistan, a vital ally since last year'sterrorist attacks, was a major supplier of criticalequipment for North Korea's newly rev! ealed clandestinenuclear weapons program, current and former senior Americanofficials said today. The equipment, which may include gas centrifuges used tocreate weapons-grade uranium, appears to have been part ofa barter deal beginning in the late 1990's in which NorthKorea supplied Pakistan with missiles it could use tocounter India's nuclear arsenal, the officials said. "What you have here," said one official familiar with theintelligence, "is a perfect meeting of interests - theNorth had what the Pakistanis needed, and the Pakistanishad a way for Kim Jong Il to restart a nuclear program wehad stopped." China and Russia were less prominentsuppliers, officials said. The White House said tonight that it would not discussPakistan's role or any other intelligence information. Norwould senior administration officials who briefed reporterstoday discuss exactly what intelligence they showed toNort! h Korean officials two weeks ago, prompting the North'sdefiant declaration that it had secretly started a programto enrich uranium in violation of its past commitments. The trade between Pakistan and North Korea appears to haveoccurred around 1997, roughly two years before Gen. PervezMusharraf took power in a bloodless coup. However, therelationship appears to have continued after GeneralMusharraf became president, and there is some evidence thata commercial relationship between the two country'sextended beyond Sept. 11 of last year. A spokesman for the Pakistan Embassy, Asad Hayauddin, saidit was "absolutely incorrect" to accuse Pakistan ofproviding nuclear weapons technology to North Korea. "Wehave never had an accident or leak or any export of fissilematerial or nuclear technology or knowledge," he said. The suspected deal between Pakistan and North Koreaunderscores the enormous diplomatic complex! ity of theadministration's task in trying to disarm North Korea, aneffort that began in earnest today. In Beijing, two American diplomats, James A. Kelly and JohnR. Bolton, pressed Chinese officials to use all theirdiplomatic and economic leverage to persuade North Korea togive up its nuclear weapons program. The subject isexpected to dominate a meeting next week between PresidentBush - who a spokesman said today "believes this istroubling and sobering news" - and President Jiang Zemin ofChina, at Mr. Bush's ranch in Texas. Mr. Bush did not address the North Korean revelation atappearances in Atlanta and Florida today. Secretary ofDefense Donald H. Rumsfeld did talk about the disclosuresat the Pentagon, but one official said the effort to playdown the topic was part of an administration strategy of"avoiding a crisis atmosphere." At the same time, White House and State Departmentofficials argu! ed that what they called North Korea's"belligerent" announcement to a visiting Americandelegation two weeks ago demonstrated the need to disarmIraq before it enjoys similar success. "Here's a case in North Korea where weapons haveproliferated and put at risk our interests and theinterests of two of our great allies," Japan and SouthKorea, Richard L. Armitage, the deputy secretary of state,said today. "It might make our case more strong in Iraq."Some Democrats agreed, while opponents of a military strikeagainst Iraq argued the reverse, saying theadministration's muted reaction to North Korea, and itsannouncement that it wanted to solve the problempeacefully, should also apply to Baghdad. There were conflicting explanations today about why theadministration kept the North Korean admission quiet for 12days. The White House said it simply wanted time to consult withJapan, South Korea and other As! ian nations, and withmembers of Congress, before deciding its next step. Butsome of the administration's critics suggested that thereal reason was that the administration did not want tocomplicate the debate over Iraq in Congress and
Saddam wins presidential referendum
Raiz I could not comprehend this news . In other words " Is this guy ( saddam hussein ) so out of ordinary/ so likeable/lovable/despiseable/ .. etc that not a single soul in a whole country voted against him . sounds liked a cooked up story ... maybe manipulation.. still guessing Regards JP Saddam wins presidential referendum Wednesday, October 16, 2002 (Baghdad): Saddam Hussein won another seven-year term as Iraq's president in a referendum in which he was the sole candidate, taking 100 per cent of the vote, the Iraqi leader's right-hand man announced today.All 11,445,638 of the eligible voters cast ballots, said Izzat Ibrahim, vice chairman of the Revolutionary Command Council that is Iraq's key decision-making body."This is a unique manifestation of democracy which is superior to all other forms of democracies even in these countries which are besieging Iraq and trying to suffocate it,'' Ibrahim said at a news conference in Baghdad, apparently referring to the United StatesThe White House had dismissed the one-man race in advance, and the results seemed to bear out the criticism. "Obviously, it's not a very serious day, not a very serious vote and nobody places any credibility on it,'' press secretary Ari Fleischer said in Washington on Tuesday as ballots were being cast in Iraq. The result had been widely expected, as there was no real contender to take on the Iraqi leader. In the last such referendum seven years ago, the authorities declared that 99.96 percent of voters supported Saddam.Tuesday's referendum was a straight "yes" or "no" vote on whether Saddam should continue in power, with his Ba'ath party, for a further seven years. In the run-up to the referendum, the Ba'ath party based its campaign around the slogan "Yes, Yes Saddam" - a slogan that was echoed in newspaper headlines and by some Baghdad residents on the morning after the vote.Iraq has tried to cast the referendum as a show of popular support for the regime, as a counter to US-led pressure to drive Saddam from power. Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
APOL faces crisis due to lack of finances, raw materials
Guwahati, Monday, October 14, 2002 APOL faces crisis due to lack of finances, raw materialsBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Oct 13 The Assam Polyester Cooperative Society Ltd (APOL) is in a quagmire. It has not been able to pay salaries to its employees for the past three months. Due to shortage of raw materials resulting from the lack of working capital, the APOL textile mill at Tulasibari, Rangiya has also been only about one-fifth of its capacity since July last.Meanwhile, efforts are on the part of the APOL management as well as the State Government to settle the issue of loan repayment with the financial institutions like the IDBI, ICICI and the NCDC. The State Government has already settled the issue of loan repayment with the Industrial Finance Corporation of India (IFCI), on behalf of the APOL. The State Government has also declared the APOL as a relief undertaking in order to implementing a rehabilitation package as per the provisions of the Assam State Industrial Relief Undertakings (Special Provisions) Act 29 1984. But, the entire amount was spent on paying salaries to the employees of the enterprise for the month of June, 2002. The APOL, after the revision of pay-scales of its employees with effect from April, 2000, now requires between Rs 38 lakh and Rs 40 lakh in a month to pay salaries to its about 1,000 regular and about 300 casual employees. The decision to spend the said loan amount on salaries, led to serious differences of opinion among the APOL directors and the differences reached such a state that one of the directors tendered his resignation in protest.In fact the APOL has been facing a shortage of working capital since its inception. This is due to the lack of commitment of the nationalised banks towards industrial development of the NE region. The State Government also is responsible, as it has not shown sincerity to assess the situation and to come forward with a supportive approach, said sources in the APOL. Shortage of working capital resulted in the underutilisation of capacity in both the spinning and weaving units of the enterprise. But till 1997, the enterprise was running without any cash loss, and gradually it was overcoming the hurdles of shortage of raw materials, power, skilled manpower and an adverse atmosphere in the market.Initially, the demand for APOL products was only for a short period of four months in a year in the market. But product diversification and consistent effort on the part of its management, gave APOL an extended market of eight months annually, which is at par with other such enterprises of the country. The State Government on July 4 last appointed a three-member high-power committee with Sri RC Barua, promoter director of the APOL, as its chairman, to look into the problems facing the enterprise and to suggest remedies for its rejuvenation. The committee, in its interim report on July 16, suggested, among others, that the State Government should consider release an amount of Rs 40 lakh immediately, to the APOL against its receivables from the Government as a loan to be utilised for purchase of raw materials only and the APOL should submit documents to prove such expenditure to the committee. The APOL Board of Directors (adhoc) was reconstituted by the State Government in the same month with Sri Barua as the chairman. The BoD met at the AIDC conference hall on August 6 last.In the meeting, one of the directors pointed out to the fact that the APOL was on the threshold of closure with no raw materials, with over Rs 900 lakh of current dues. He wanted to find out ways and means of meeting the upcoming salary burden with 20 per cent to 25 per cent production. But with practically no discussion on these points, the BoD meeting came to an end, said the minutes of the meeting. To bail out the enterprise of its present crisis, some circles suggest that the State Government should release the budgeted amounted of Rs 45 lakh to APOL in a speedy manner for procuring raw materials.According to sources, APOL still has the viability to earn cash profit of around Rs 20 lakh per month at 75 per cent of capacity utilisation under normal market condition. If this state can be achieved, APOL will be able to take care of its liabilities over a period of three to four years, the sources said. But APOL today needs the support of a sound rehabilitation package from the financial institutions and the State Government also should come forward to facilitate it, said the sources.Meanwhile, possibilities of deriving benefit from a Union Government policy for revitalisation of the textile sector in NE region are also being explored through an agency of the Union Government, the sources said. The employees of the enterprise have also agreed to revert to the pre-revised pay-scales, while efforts are also on to reduce the load on APOL resources, the sources said.Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Form Hindu suicide squads to tackle terrorism
How about this ? Form Hindu suicide squads to tackle terrorism, says Thackeray PTI MUMBAI: Shiv Sena supremo Bal Thackeray has favoured formation of suicide squads amongst Hindus to take on the menace of terrorism."If such suicide squads are formed then only we can take on perpetrators of mindless violence," Thackeray said in party mouthpiece Saamna in Mumbai on Tuesday.The Sena chief, in his Dussehra message, exhorted people to be bold as he lashed out at State and Central Govenments for failing to effectively counter the scourge of terrorism.Meanwhile, following intelligence reports that Jaish-e-Mohammed ultras have sneaked into the metropolis, unprecedented security has been deployed at Shivaji Park in central Mumbai, where Thackeray is scheduled to address the annual Dussehra rally on Tuesday evening, according to highly placed police sources.Rapid Action Force and State Reserve Police Personnel would be deployed around the venue while armed policemen would be posted atop many o! f the buildings around the sprawling ground.Similarly, the route from the Sena chief's residence in suburban Bandra to Shivaji Park would be heavily guarded, sources added.Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua
Hi A'ba Honest , you are one of the " Livewire" of Assam Net . And you getting dumped , -- no way . probably some defect in the Assam Net mailing system , and it could be from anything , manual error / system failuure / and anything etc. and to err is very humane . Regards Jayanta From: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "jayanta payeng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:06:28 -0500 Jayanta, hi! long time no hear. :-) Thanks for writing. I am not getting all the mails from Assam Net. The only mail (sent there) was the original mail on this topic from Mr. Barooah. I wonder if I am being dumped, but why? :-) take care. With season's greetings (remember seein this on magazines that we used to get during Durga Puja),--a'ba - Original Message - From: jayanta payeng To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Bingo A'ba Mr Jahnu Barua does raise some relevant questions , rather some questions that ought to have been raised and should be raised , now and then . I guess , in the process , there maybe some discordant notes raised mainly becoz it involves " Intellectuals : defining it is real damn tricky bussiness and leaders : Now this one's more slippery ... Ranging from Bush to Laloo to Tarun Gogoi to the office bearers of some political orgs ... to your Neighbourhood Bully etc. Anyway , Mr Barua ( the film maker ) did make some bold statements that may sound benign but , he seemed to be right . Is the writer Prof. Barua from the net? I was also wondering , was the writer Prof Baruah or Jahnu Baruah . Regards JP From: "Alpana Sarangapani" To: "Prafulla Barooah" , Subject: Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:53:01 -0500 Thank you for forwarding this short but insightful write-up - that shares the exact thougt of many of us. I haven't had the chance to see any of Jahnu Barua's movies, will make it a point to see them from now on, beginning with 'Xagoroloi Bahu dur' (this was his too(?) - meant to see this for many years, but..). Is the writer Prof. Barua from the net? - Original Message - From: "Prafulla Barooah" To: Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Sanjib K. Baruah, Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, Intellectuals of the northeast have failed the people and the region has suffered a ebilitating "leadership vacuum", rues noted Assamese filmmaker Jahnu Barua. "Intellectuals in the northeastern region have failed in their duty. Our present mess is a result. Nor does the prevailing atmosphere in the region allow intellectuals to flourish," Barua, who was in the capital for the screening of his latest film "Konikar Ramdhenu (Ride on the Rainbow)", told IANS. Barua, who has made nine feature films with strong social messages, has won critical acclaim worldwide. A graduate of Pune's Film and Television Institute of India, before making his first feature film in 1983 Barua worked in the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and made educational programmes for television. "There has been a leadership vacuum for the last two decades. The impact has been particularly devastating on children of the region. They are a confused lot and have no objective plans for the future. And there is a serious lack of communication between the generations. "There is no one that the people can look up to for guidance. Normally the leadership of one great leader provides inspiration to the people for at least 50 years. Gujarat had one Vallabhbhai Patel and look at the progress it has made," said Barua. According to him, the biggest failing of intellectuals and leaders in Assam had been the inability to foresee and act upon the impending fragmentation of undivided Assam into several states. Asked on what he would most like to make films, Barua responded: "I would like to make endless number of films on Assam and the northeast to keep on reminding the rest of the world that we also exist." Barua said: "The state establishment and its paraphernalia have also been involved in systematically blocking the lessons provided by the unique history of the region. On the other hand we have become ruthless in disregarding our past. That depri
Instant replay belongs in my home
Instant replay belongs in my home by: Melvin Durai Security cameras bother me. Everywhere I go, they´re around, recording my every movement, giving the security people a good laugh at my expense. At the ATM: "There he is again, the guy who keeps sticking the wrong card into the machine. Doesn´t he know he can´t withdraw money with his library card? What´s he going to do next -- borrow a bunch of books with his bank card?" At the grocery store: "There he is again, the guy who can´t find anything. He´s walking up and down the baking aisle, expecting to find yeast there. What an idiot! Doesn´t he know that yeast is kept in the dairy section? Next thing you know, he´ll be searching for bread in the bakery." At the record store: "There he is again, the guy who keeps checking if the Bee Gees have released a new album. Doesn´t he know they belong in the ´70s, just like those clothes he´s wearing?" Even if the security people aren´t laughing at me, I still feel uneasy about the cameras -- and not just because I want to maintain my privacy. I don´t like the idea of people watching me when I can´t watch them. Itt doesn´t matter whether they´re peeping into my bedroom or peeking into my shopping cart, they ought not to do it without paying me. Good entertainment is never free. Despite my reservations, I´m beginning to see the benefits of hidden cameras. In fact, I want to install them all over my home. Not to protect me from outsiders, but to protect me from insiders. By "insiders," I´m speaking mainly about my wife. She sometimes misunderstands me. Malathi: "Hey Mr. Lazy Butt! Didn´t you promise to wash my car while I was cooking dinner?" Me: "No, you must have heard wrong. I promised to watch your car. I just checked and it´s still out there. No one has stolen it." Malathi: "Stop lying! The only thing you´ve watched today is football. You haven´t moved from the couch all day. The refrigerator is getting more exercise than you." Me: "You don´t believe me? Well, it´s a good thing I installed those hidden cameras. I´ve always wanted to say this: Let´s go to the replay. Videotape doesn´t lie. ... There! See! I said ´watch,´ not ´wash.´ And look! I´m getting up from the couch. I´m looking at your car. What did I tell you?" Malathi: "I´m sorry, sweetheart. You´re right and I´m wrong. I promise never to bother you again during a football game. Except to serve you dinner and give you back rubs. May I return to the kitchen?" Me: "OK, but you´d better keep your word! Don´t make me go to the replay again." Instant replay works well in pro football, so why not in everyday life? Whenever there´s a disagreement, we can just review the tape. It would keep many couples from fighting. Malathi: "Who finished the ice cream? Was it you again?" Me: "No, sweetie. In case you didn´t notice, I´m on a very strict diet. And if you don´t believe me, let´s go to the replay. ... Ah, just as I suspected. We had an intruder. And he ate all our ice cream." Malathi: "Oh my gosh. That´s scary. Especially since the intruder looks so much like you." Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua
Bingo A'ba Mr Jahnu Barua does raise some relevant questions , rather some questions that ought to have been raised and should be raised , now and then . I guess , in the process , there maybe some discordant notes raised mainly becoz it involves " Intellectuals : defining it is real damn tricky bussiness and leaders : Now this one's moreslippery ... Ranging from Bush to Laloo to Tarun Gogoi to the office bearers of some political orgs ... to your Neighbourhood Bully etc. Anyway , Mr Barua ( the film maker)did make some bold statements that may sound benignbut , he seemed to be right . Is the writer Prof. Barua from the net? I was also wondering , was the writer Prof Baruah or Jahnu Baruah . Regards JP From: "Alpana Sarangapani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Prafulla Barooah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:53:01 -0500 Thank you for forwarding this short but insightful write-up - that shares the exact thougt of many of us. I haven't had the chance to see any of Jahnu Barua's movies, will make it a point to see them from now on, beginning with 'Xagoroloi Bahu dur' (this was his too(?) - meant to see this for many years, but..). Is the writer Prof. Barua from the net? - Original Message - From: "Prafulla Barooah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Intellectuals, leaders have failed the northeast: Barua Sanjib K. Baruah, Indo-Asian News Service New Delhi, Intellectuals of the northeast have failed the people and the region has suffered a ebilitating "leadership vacuum", rues noted Assamese filmmaker Jahnu Barua. "Intellectuals in the northeastern region have failed in their duty. Our present mess is a result. Nor does the prevailing atmosphere in the region allow intellectuals to flourish," Barua, who was in the capital for the screening of his latest film "Konikar Ramdhenu (Ride on the Rainbow)", told IANS. Barua, who has made nine feature films with strong social messages, has won critical acclaim worldwide. A graduate of Pune's Film and Television Institute of India, before making his first feature film in 1983 Barua worked in the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and made educational programmes for television. "There has been a leadership vacuum for the last two decades. The impact has been particularly devastating on children of the region. They are a confused lot and have no objective plans for the future. And there is a serious lack of communication between the generations. "There is no one that the people can look up to for guidance. Normally the leadership of one great leader provides inspiration to the people for at least 50 years. Gujarat had one Vallabhbhai Patel and look at the progress it has made," said Barua. According to him, the biggest failing of intellectuals and leaders in Assam had been the inability to foresee and act upon the impending fragmentation of undivided Assam into several states. Asked on what he would most like to make films, Barua responded: "I would like to make endless number of films on Assam and the northeast to keep on reminding the rest of the world that we also exist." Barua said: "The state establishment and its paraphernalia have also been involved in systematically blocking the lessons provided by the unique history of the region. On the other hand we have become ruthless in disregarding our past. That deprives us of a solid base to grow and flourish. "The northeast is rich in forest resources, oil, coal and tea. Not a single schoolbook provides lessons on these. We should inspire the young and teach them the knowledge of the land and the surroundings. There is a systematic ploy to deprive us of our knowledge." On the erosion of tradition and cherished values, the filmmaker said: "These values are very important to build up the character of a race. On the contrary, we have learnt to disrespect ourselves. We have fallen in our own eyes. And that is the beginning of the end. "Our condition now is like a tree without roots and all remedies are being addressed to the outer structure without watering the roots." Asked about the choice of integrating with the cultural and social ethos of the rest of India, he said: "Society evolves on the basis of natural surroundings and environment. If a group of Assamese people goes to Canada, their behaviour, terminology, way of life will differ in accordance with the surroundings there. "If New Delhi says the northeast has to get integrated with the rest of the country then it is something very wrong. This is not the way to function." The seven northeastern
She's been on fast for 22 months
She's been on fast for 22 months IANS IMPHAL: More than 100 rights groups worldwide have urged President A P J Abdul Kalam to help a 30-year-old woman in Manipur state to end her 22 months of fast against abuses by security forces. Irom Sharmila Chanu, a social activist, began her hunger strike on November 5, 2000, after paramilitary forces reportedly killed 10 civilians at village Malom, on the outskirts of Manipur's state capital Imphal. "Chanu decided to stage a fast-unto-death in protest against the innocent killings," Khaidam Mani Singh, a senior lawyer and rights activist, told IANS. "She says she will continue her hunger strike until the government withdraws the (anti-people) black laws." Chanu's health has deteriorated with doctors and nurses "force-feeding" her with nasal tubes and using intravenous nutrition. "From the day she started the fast, Chanu has not had a morsel of solid food and even refuses nasal feeding at times," s! aid R K Anand, leader of the Democratic People's Party, a regional political front. "Doctors were trying to save her life against her will and so forcefully feeding and providing other life care supports." In the initial months, Chanu was arrested and sent to jail for resorting to the fast but she refused to take food even in prison, prompting authorities to shift her to the Jawaharlal Nehru hospital in Imphal. "Chanu's mental strength and her will power is indeed worth mentioning as she is surviving on fluids and nothing else and that also she refuses," a doctor at the hospital said. "She looks pale and fatigued, her voice has become very feeble and limbs becoming numb." Women groups and rights activists in Manipur say Chanu's sacrifice was not without justification. "Chanu is a symbol of a lay person fatigued with the atrocities committed on innocent civilians by security forces in the name of curbing militancy," remarked Mee! ra Devi, a women community leader. "Security forces think all the people in Manipur are terrorists, and such an attitude has led to many youths joining the underground and thereby alienating the region from the Indian mainstream." The Armed Forces Act gives the security forces unlimited powers in countering insurgency in a state where at least 19 separatist groups are active. "Some 131 rights groups across the world have sent a joint memorandum to the Indian president to seek his help in revoking the Armed Forces Act in Manipur and help end Chanu's hunger strike," said Babloo Loitongbam, executive director of Human Rights Alert, a local rights group.Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
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Thackeray to watch Ek Chhoti Si to end row
Wow ! The supreme court. Thackeray to watch Ek Chhoti Si to end row Thackeray would now watch the movie at Rajkamal studio on September 12 at a special screening, the Sena MP said. "Balasaheb wants this controversy to end now. There is no point in dragging it any further and must be resolved peacefully," Nirupam told PTI in Mumbai on Tuesday. Earlier in the day, Thackeray met Nair, producer-director of the film Ek Chhoti Si Love Story, after the latter insisted for a meeting. "The Sena patriarch also summoned Manisha as he wanted both the parties engaged in a row to sit across the table and resolve the matter," Nirupam, who was present at the meeting, said. Manisha, who plays the protagonist in the movie, stirred a hornet's nest after she expressed her objection to certain scenes filmed on her body double.Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost
Re: Ravi Kant Veerappan
Hi C'da THat would have been a humorous article posted by Jayanta, had it not beenfor its tragic truths !!! Yes Indeed . It reflects upon the inefficiency of the Central / State Machinery. Just imagine , one bandit , living in the jungles , eluding thousands of security forces equipped with sophisticated weapons , for decades . That guy walks simply walks out from the jungles , kidnaps a ex-legislator , goes bak to the jungle and vanishes in thin air . Complete mockery of the system. BTW, who was the author of the piece, Jayanta? !!! The author is Mr Shekhar Gupta , Editor-In-Chief of the Indian Express . I have read some of his articles , some of them on Assam related issues. Regarding the political affliation of IE , i am ignorant on that . Anyway , all media houses do have their political masters. And as things are,there WILL be no change either. The system does not PROMOTE or supportpositive change. !!! The whole system is Rotten . The previleged remains previleged while the under previleged remains underprevileged. So much for being the world's largest democracy. Politicians have the same motto " Make hay while the sun shines " . Afterall who knows what happens after 5 years. Regards JP Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: THat would have been a humorous article posted by Jayanta, had it not beenfor its tragic truths.BTW, who was the author of the piece, Jayanta?Indian Express never published the complete list--although they promisedin their first article--from all states. Needless to say those are mainlyfrom ;Congress-I ruled states.Could the BJP govt. or the party apparatus have done the favor of informingthe public, if the Indian Express ( is it a Cong I mouthpiece? I thought itwas Arun Shourie's one-time home.) reneged on their promise? I know it wasa no-win situation. The damage has been done--of demonstrating that theyare ALL the same, ABV's valiant attempts at re-establishing lostcredibility not-withstanding.Funny thing is that some of us always knew it - that the current crop ofpower holders are no different from those of the past. And as things are,there WILL be no change either. The system does not PROMOTE or supportpositive change.But so much for investigative journalism of Indian Express!Sending the messenger, even the partisan messenger, to the guillotine,unfortunately does not do anything to promote better behavior from thosewho betray the public trust.cmAt 1:02 PM -0400 9/4/02, Bharat B wrote:Let Ravi Kant and Veerappan first join BJP. Then only Indian Express canfind about their petrol pumps. I know few of my cousins applied too, butlost out to Congress-I relatives in Assam. Indian Express never publishedthe complete list--although they promised in their first article--from allstates. Needless to say those are mainly from Congress-I ruled states. Iknow corruption of BJP can not be justified because of corruption ofCongress party. But so much for investigative journalism of IndianExpress! The morale of the story is simply giving petrol pums to Ravi Kantand Veerappan will not help to trace them! We need also their politicalaffiliations. My two cents!From: jayanta payeng To: Assam Net Subject: Ravi Kant Veerappan Date: Wed, 4 Sep 200208:16:24 -0700 (PDT) NATIONAL INTERESTLet them both slip away toPakistan, make a list of 22 ó and then call up Colin PowellRavi KantVeerappan Imagine, for a moment, that R.K. Sharma, wanted for the murderof Shivani, was not an inspector-general of police in Haryana, but anordinary person from the same state. What would the fate of his familyhave been if he was at large for so long? Rather than be allowed topaint themselves on the national radar screen by holding forth on everytelevision channel, they would have been locked up in the nearest policestation, and held hostage until the man turned himself in and pleaded formercy A terrible thing, and not something you and I would recommend,or even countenance. But that is exactly the way our policemen behave,particularly so in Sharmaís home state of Haryana. This is probably theway Sharma himself would have acted if he was a serving officer in pursuitof some other commoner wanted for murder. But, in our country, whenyou are somebody, the rules of the game change. He can now carry on inhiding, mocking the entire system and the police in two states, andgenerally telling us all, ëëDonít waste time looking for me. I will decidewhen I wish to be found.íí Sharma is at least a senior officer, so youcan expect his colleagues in Haryana as well as in Delhi to be a littleindulgent. There is, after all, honour among thieves. But why is the sametreatment being extended to Veerappan ó and not for a few weeks but foryears now? He can kidnap film stars and ministers, blow senior policemenwho dare to hunt for him up on land mines, slaughter more wildlife in onelifetime than whole dynasties of the maharajas did in the past and, yet,each time ransom is paid, and his quarry released, the government goes to
Ravi Kant Veerappan
NATIONAL INTEREST Let them both slip away to Pakistan, make a list of 22 and then call up Colin Powell Ravi Kant Veerappan Imagine, for a moment, that R.K. Sharma, wanted for the murder of Shivani, was not an inspector-general of police in Haryana, but an ordinary person from the same state. What would the fate of his family have been if he was at large for so long? Rather than be allowed to paint themselves on the national radar screen by holding forth on every television channel, they would have been locked up in the nearest police station, and held hostage until the man turned himself in and pleaded for mercy A terrible thing, and not something you and I would recommend, or even countenance. But that is exactly the way our policemen behave, particularly so in Sharmas home state of Haryana. This is probably the way Sharma himself would have acted if he was a serving officer in pursuit of some other commoner wanted for murder. But, in our country, when you are somebody, the rules of the game change. He can now carry on in hiding, mocking the entire system and the police in two states, and generally telling us all, Dont waste time looking for me. I will decide when I wish to be found. Sharma is at least a senior officer, so you can expect his colleagues in Haryana as well as in Delhi to be a little indulgent. There is, after all, honour among thieves. But why is the same treatment being extended to Veerappan and not for a few weeks but for years now? He can kidnap film stars and ministers, blow senior policemen who dare to hunt for him up on land mines, slaughter more wildlife in one lifetime than whole dynasties of the maharajas did in the past and, yet, each time ransom is paid, and his quarry released, the government goes to sleep. Its been two years now since he hit front-page headlines by kidnapping Kannada film star Raj Kumar and it would be interesting to find out exactly what the police in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu have been doing meanwhile to catch him. Now, the states are demanding central paramilitary forces and L.K. Advani has very generously said he is willing to spare them. But what have all of them been doing meanwhile? Why the search now when he holds a prized hostage? What kind of a manhunt is possible now without risking minister Nagappas life? Now Jayalalitha is demanding remote-sensing equipment and air power to catch him. But all this while her police did nothing to find him, busy as they were filling up their jails with rival politicians arrested under Pota for merely speaking out in sympathy of the LTTE. How will she fight the LTTE if she cannot even catch one lousy jungle brigand? How will S.M. Krishna convince anybody he runs Indias most modern, most hi-tech, showpiece state if his own VIPs continue to be routinely kidnapped by one doddering man with a funny moustache? And, finally, how will Advani get anybody to believe his home ministry will bring back Dawood Ibrahim, finish terrorism from Kashmir to Tripura and rid Mumbai of its underworld, if the one police force directly under his charge (the Delhi Police) cannot even catch a man so prominent and well known as R.K. Sharma, hiding in its very neighbourhood, and spinning the legal system around his little finger while his family holds forth, embarrassing the government? Which one, Veerappan or Sharma, is a greater national shame is a difficult question. Veerappan has shown up our entire law-and-order machinery for nearly a decade now. That shame will be equalled, for example, if the Americans are unable to find Osama for another decade and when Osama, meanwhile, keeps kidnapping their regiment commanders, visiting congressmen and probably Tom Cruise, and extracting ransom in return. A nation that deploys a million men with tanks, guns, missiles, mines, and nukes in the back, to fight foreign-inspired terrorism in Kashmir, cannot catch one thug roaming around in its very heartland. Can you really blame the Pakistanis for laughing at us each time we repeat our demand for the list of the 20 men we want from them? Maybe they would have been safer still if they were in India. Now, you might have some remote chance of getting them back from the Pakistanis. If they were in India, nobody would have touched them. Or, maybe, we better encourage both Veerappan and Sharma to flee to Pakistan. Then we can extend our list to 22 names and blame the Pakistanis for hiding our fugitives. It will not bring our crooks back. But it might salve our conscience. On my scale of national shame, though, Sharma would rank higher, and heres why. He is not hiding in our thickest jungles he is accessible enough to send a telegram from Solan, a district town less than a hundred km away to Chandigarh to extend his leave! He is not protected by fellow thugs armed with Kalashnikovs and landmines but by friendly governments, batch mates and lawyers. What else can you say when his lawyer, who lives in South Delhi, keeps
Consumer Court slaps Rs 1 lakh penalty on Sahara Airline
Consumer Court slaps Rs 1 lakh penalty on Sahara AirlineFrom Ron DuarahDIBRUGARH, Sept 3 Dr Surendra Rana Patgiri, head of the department of gynaecology at the AMC here could not light his fathers pyre on July 3, 1998. The Dibrugarh District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum has found Sahara Airline guilty for this and has slapped a Rs 1 lakh fine on the airline, in addition to asking the air carrier to refund the ticketing amount, along with interest. It so happened that Dr Patgiri had to rush to Sarupeta in Barpeta district upon coming to know of the demise of his father. Accordingly, he purchased three tickets from here to Guwahati on the airline as he had intended to light the funeral pyre, as is the custom for eldest sons in Hindu families. But on the day of the journey, the airline refused to carry Dr Patgiri and his family, without assisgning any reason. Feeling thoroughly humiliated he and his family were asked not to board the aircraft after going through the security check Dr Patgiri then hired a taxi and took the road. Even so, he missed his fathers funeral.After coming back to Dibrugarh, he consulted a lawyer and decided to sue the airline for humiliation and agony. He lodged a complaint with the consumer forum here and this was registered as consumer protection case No. 46/1998. On August 23 this year, the Consumer Court, after hearing the case in detail, gave its verdict in Dr Patgiris favour. The court rejected the arguments by the Sahara officials and its counsel, saying these did not hold much water. The court also took a serious view of the airlines denial of a fundamental right to a law abiding citizen, and has asked Sahara airlines to pay up within a month.Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
Re : A Great Piece from NY Times
C'da
I beg to differ with you . One of mankind's compulsive / impulsive reaction , when a solution to a problem is not-in-sight / and maybe not-in-sight , then the gut reaction is to find a Scapegoat . So if it is not OBL , it should be the Saudis or Saddam or Gaddafi.
I may be wrong but that's what I infer from DC's statement
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Jayanta
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Subject: A Great Piece from NY Times
I'm With Dick! Let's Make War!By MAUREEN DOWDWASHINGTON - I was dubious at first. But now I think Dick Cheney has it right.Making the case for going to war in the Middle East to veterans on Monday,the vice president said that "our goal would be . . . a government that isdemocratic and pluralistic, a nation where the human rights of every ethnicand religious group are recognized and protected."O.K., I'm on board. Let's declare war on Saudi Arabia! Let's do "regimechange" in a kingdom that gives medieval a bad name.By overthrowing the Saudi monarchy, the Cheney-Rummy-Condi-Wolfy-Perle-W.contingent could realize its dream of redrawing the Middle East map.Once everyone realizes that we're no longer being hypocrites, coddling acorrupt, repressive dictatorship that sponsors terrorism even as we plot tocrush a corrupt, repressive dictatorship that sponsors terrorism, it willtransform our relationship wit!
h the Arab world.We won't need Charlotte Beers at the State Department, thinking up MadisonAvenue slogans to make the Arab avenue love us. ("Democracy! Mm-mm, good.")If America is going to have a policy of justified pre-emption, in HenryKissinger's clinical phrase, why not start by chasing out those sorry Saudiroyals? If we're willing to knock over Saddam for gassing the Kurds, weshould be willing to knock over the Saudis for letting the state-supportedreligious police burn 15 girls to death last March in a Mecca school,forcing them back inside a fiery building because they tried to fleewithout their scarves. And shouldn't we pre-empt them before they teachmore boys to hate American infidels and before they can stunt the lives ofmore women?The vice president declared on Monday, "This nation will not live at themercy of terrorists or terror regimes." I am absolutely with him.Why should we (and our S.U.V.'!
s) be at the mercy of this family that we armand protect and go to war for? The Saudis have never formally apologized toAmerica for the 15 Saudi citizens who came here and killed 3,000 Americansas they went to work one sun-dappled September morning. They have nevereven tried to rewrite their incendiary terrorist-breeding textbooks or stoptheir newspapers from spewing anti-American, anti-Semitic lies, like theirstories accusing Jews of drinking children's blood. They brazenly held atelethon, with King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah giving millions, toraise money for families of Palestinian suicide bombers, or "martyrs." Lastweek the Saudi embassy here put out a glossy brochure hailing their"humanitarian work" at the telethon.It was embarrassing yesterday, given President Bush's swagger on Iraq, towatch him fawn over the Saudis. At lunch at his ranch he entertained PrinceBandar, the man who got private planes to spirit Os!
ama bin Laden'srelatives out of the U.S. after the attacks. Mr. Bush also called CrownPrince Abdullah yesterday to assure him of the "eternal friendship" betweentheir countries and to soothe hurt Saudi feelings over a lawsuit filed by9/11 victims charging Saudi support of terrorism.Mr. Cheney argues that we must invade Iraq while we have a strategic windowfor action, while Saddam's army is still reeling.But attacking the Saudis would be even easier. They are soft and spoiled.Only yesterday Jerome Socolovsky of The A.P. wrote about how King Fahdbrought thousands of members of the House of Saud to Marbella, Spain, wherethey stocked up on luxury items and hired North African servants. Women inveils and waterproof robes rode Jet Skis and members of the royal familytalked about the 9/11 attacks as an Israeli-C.I.A. plot.A Saudi invasion would be like the Panama invasion during Bush I. Wealready have bases to use !
there. And this time Mr. Cheney won't have to begthe royals to use their air space, or send American forces.Once we make Saudi Arabia into our own self-serve gas pump, its neighborswill get the democracy bug.The Saudis would probably use surrogates to fight anyway. They pay poorworkers from other countries to do their menial labor. And they paid theAmericans to fight the Iraqis in 1991. The joke among the American forcesthen was: "What's the Saudi national anthem? `Onward, Christian Soldiers.' "We haven't been hit at home by any of Saddam's Scud missiles. But the humanmissiles launched by Saudi Arabia have taken their toll.Have a nice day !
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Assam floods should be declared 'national problem': Gogoi
Whaat say , Raiz ? Will it be ? HOME | NEWS | REPORT SaturdayAugust 10, 20021951 IST NEWSLINKSUS EDITIONSOUTH ASIACOLUMNISTSDIARYSPECIALSINTERVIEWSCAPITAL BUZZREDIFF POLLDEAR REDIFFTHE STATESELECTIONSARCHIVESUS ARCHIVESSEARCH REDIFF Click for confirmedseats to India! Is your Company registered? Spaced Out?Click Here! Secrets everymother shouldknow Search the Internet Tips Assam floods should be declared 'national problem': Gogoi G Vinayak in Guwahati Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi has asked the Centre to declare the state's annual floods as a 'national problem'. "The Centre has to shoulder responsibility, for a poor state like Assam alone cannot make up for the damage," Gogoi has told the NDA government after reviewing the situation in the state for the past two days. He charged the Centre with making light of the devastation caused by floods in the state. "Given the situation we are in, the prime minister should have personally undertaken a stock-taking exercise. But the BJP-led government has not bothered to send a Union minister to the state to assess the extent of devastation," Gogoi said. According to a preliminary assessment, the state has already suffered losses to the extent of Rs 250 million. The worst-affected Dhemaji district has been cut off from the rest of the country for 39 days now, while the water level of rivers in the Barak valley has been constantly rising because of incessant rain. The current wave of floods has affected over 6,000 villages and a population of about 5.3 million. According to official reports, the toll stands at 30. Over 85,000 people are staying in 350 relief camps and 600 temporary shelters. The chief minister said his government was preparing a detailed memorandum on the damage caused by floods. Health minister Bhumidhar Barman will submit the memorandum to the Centre by the end of this month, he added. The state government is also in a dilemma over the Tenth Finance Commission guidelines that ban utilisation of the Calamity Relief Fund for any purpose other than procurement of relief materials. Dispur has decided to seek special permission from the Centre to utilise money from the fund for repair of roads and bridges damaged by floods. Of the Rs 1.11 billion earmarked for calamity relief in the state, the Centre has released Rs 410 million. The state government will move the Centre for disbursal of the remaining amount in advance. Gogoi said embankments along the Brahmaputra and its tributaries had been breached at 112 places. Back to top Tell us what you think of this report ADVERTISEMENT NEWS | MONEY | SPORTS | MOVIES | CHAT | CRICKET | SEARCHASTROLOGY | CONTESTS | E-CARDS | NEWSLINKS | ROMANCE | WOMENSHOPPING | BOOKS | MUSIC | PERSONAL HOMEPAGES | FREE EMAIL| MESSENGER | FEEDBACKDo You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
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There's something shady going on in Assam Net, A ba. So many virus infected mailsare being circulated under Fictitious / Real names , it has become real tough to actually ascertain Which mails to open and which ones not to open and which mails are genuine. A couple of days back i received one mail from you under the subject " Your messages " . When i opened the email , it was completely blank . Then after 1 or 2 days , you sent out a message to Assam Net clarifying that your pc system might have got infected and contacts in your Address Book might have received unsolicited mails. Regards Jayanta From: Alpana Sarangapani[EMAIL PROTECTED] Add to Address Book To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Attached files Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 Hi Everyone: I noticed there was a mail with 2 attached files with the subject VIRUSes, sent in my name. Just wanted to let you know it was NOT me. DoNOT open any mail with any attachment even if it is "sent"with a name that you know, especially if it is sent using one of those FREE email accounts, like HOTMAIL, YAHOO, REDIFFMAIL, etc., etc., etc. - you know! And if you think that youHAVE :-)to open that mail with an attachment, send an email to that person first before opening to confirm that it was sent by her/him. Have a good one! --ABS. Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
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Thanks a lot for sharing that piece , Cda . It was really very informative ! That was a deeply researched article . I think that required extensive experimentations and so on . I was always inquisitive about Why do flood occurs so frequently and so often in Assam . After the ULFA/SULFA problem , the Flood problem is in the NEWS vis-à-vis Assam . Regards Jayanta brother, who had studied the Assam flood problems for a number of years.Comments / criticisms would be most welcome. THe author could be contacteddirectly at[EMAIL PROTECTED]cmCAN DAMS MODERATE FLOODS IN ASSAM VALLEY?Mukul C Mahant , EngineerWill DAMS across Tributaries MODERATE the recurrent Floods problem in theBrahmaputra Valley ? The answer is to be evolved through logic.Case SUBONSIRI -152m high -2836million cu.m.impounding- ref A.pp34-1000MW:The river system drains 10,000 sq. km. Rainfall 400mm in a week is routine.This will bring down 4000 million cu. m. As a result an EMPTY reservoirwill fill up in 4 days . Next 3 days- floods below . Nobody will allowkeeping a 1000 MW HE Stn idle to help alleviate floods in Assam becausethat will mean throwing away 1000x1000x24x3/- =7.2 Crore Rs daily. If thepolicy is " First stop Dhemaji/Lakhimpur/Majuli floods" one will lose totalpower for 100 days each monsoon to :"Keep reservoir empty, impound heavydownpours, empty promptly and keep empty for next heavydownpour---repeat--- .Who, on what basis will decide and order" Close gatesnow"? "Empty promptly" will flood tooo.Case DIHANG -214m high-23,430 million cu.m. basin -ref A -pp51- 7500 MW :[At avg. head 152m, avg. flow 1530 cu.m./sec. ,the MW expected is 2200 not7500 ]In pp41, same ref. A., avg. monsoon discharge at Pandu is = 29,690 cu. m./sec.Q1- How a BLOCKED Dihang discharge ( 1530) moderate the 29,690 ? Even thecombined discharge of Noadihing,Lohit,Debang will far exceed Dihang's .Q2- How will this block flash floods like in 1998 when all of Pasighat waswashed away?Q3- How will this dam hold back the huge logs which came floating soonafter the 1950 August 15th big earthquake , which also deposited ' upto 10metres high silt' on the main channel say, down to Dibrugarh- (ref.A pp 38)?So do not expect Dam to control floods below. Keep generating 7500 MW x365 days. Engineering common sense tells us that instead of one 214 m highdam , one should go for a cascade of lower - say 100m--dams all the way upto the L.A.C.( border).This will enable getting all the energy from the 500m drop with the same flow. The construction will simplify. All the heavymachines can be carried by water up the cascade of reservoirs. Depending onflow one can expect even 30,000 MW from this fall.Case PAGLADIYA- a low earth dam in the Assam plains below Bhutan - earthfilled 25 metre high , on alluvial soil. Although ref.A pp 38 suggests thatdecision on the dam, its design and site selection , was done in late 60's, nothing has been done till today as nobody in the proposed dam/lake sitewants to be displaced to some unknown badland to become paupers. OnlyBrahmaputra Board having nothing else to do, is using all tricks to splitpopular resistance and to justify its existence by showing at least onejob in hand.The floods in the lower reaches near the NH,Railtracks,Nalbari Town isbecause of the original sin of not allowing the river in spate to enter therice fields and return back to the river in 2-3 days. This causes all therain water and the filth of Nalbari town to remain logged , as there is nodrainage any more to the river! Dam or no Dam , these floods cannot bewished away unless all Embankments are cut up and beds dug up as in Fig 1.The Embankments built since 1953 ( there were none before) with loans fromDelhi under the NATIONAL EMBANKMENT POLICY achieved the following intendedresults:# Assam's debt plus compound interest builds up due to these embankments,national highways and railways-the last two blocking the area's drainageto the Brahmaputra.#Barrenization of the floodplains, as the humus coming downhill with wateris blocked by Embankments and go away to Bangladesh. This ensures Assam'sfood dependence on India . Current daily movement intoAssam is 5000 Tons.This further deepens the debt trap.#Migration intensifies as the land no more feeds man and beast .Socialunrest, crimes rise. Deforestation, degradation of the soilintensifies--causes further shallowing of riverbeds.What needs doing to the Pagladiya ? # Do not even think of a dam . # Using massive people- power, dig up the riverbed and stack spoils asin Fig 1. Also cut up the embankments built after 1953. # From Bhutan foothills to National Highway fan out irrigation canalseach with a seriesof automatic swing gates at 1m level difference . Apartfrom maintaining water round the year, the raw hill- waters laden withhumus bring back succour of fertility to soilof the entire district .Existing slope was formed by nature over millionyears. # Let the Highway and Railway owners provide ample underpasses forabove
