Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
my apologies for using a previous thread. i was in a hurry when i did it and didn't consider that some would be using threaded views. Rich Adamson wrote: One problem a colleague and I discussed moments ago is the system may preform "better" if we're using a Layer 3 switch. Which I would like anyway, but isn't very cost effective for an office with 10 phones and 5 workstations. A L3 switch would be almost half, if not more, the total cost of the project build. I guess it also depends on the amount of traffic and calls made from the office. But, other than the 4 sales people, I don't imagine the office having a high volume of traffic in and out. It is a small publishing house not a call center or support company. The most they use the phone system for, other than selling ads, is talking to each other and calling writers. Layer-3 switching won't add any value unless your network is rather large and you already have a need to segment it into broadcast domains. I do a fair amount of professional network performance work and we've actually been involved with a flat (layer-2 only) switched network that has over 900 active non-voip devices. Adding a couple of voip devices (for testing only) into the mix resulted in excellent quality. But, all of that depends upon how well managed the network is in the first place. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Shawn Parker Network Administrator Cumulus Broadcasting, LLC. Columbia-Jefferson City, Missouri 1.573.449.4141 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
Shawn If you can pick up say a 3com or HP POE (proper 802.3af switch NOT an injector) switch together with 3cnjvoip-cpod POE adaptors for the Cisco 7940/7960 phones you won't need a power brick for each phone and you also get a L3 switch thrown in (If you want to get funky also look out for 3com NJ200/NJ220(US) or NJ205/NJ225(EU) wall switches). You'll get cost savings and better network management if implemented properly. Paul > -Original Message- > From: Shawn Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004, 10:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones > > Thanks for the responses, everyone. > > One problem a colleague and I discussed moments ago is the system may > preform "better" if we're using a Layer 3 switch. Which I would like > anyway, but isn't very cost effective for an office with 10 phones and 5 > workstations. A L3 switch would be almost half, if not more, the total > cost of the project build. I guess it also depends on the amount of > traffic and calls made from the office. But, other than the 4 sales > people, I don't imagine the office having a high volume of traffic in > and out. It is a small publishing house not a call center or support > company. The most they use the phone system for, other than selling > ads, is talking to each other and calling writers. > > Cheers, > > > > Joshua M. Thompson wrote: > > >On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 11:31 -0500, Shawn Parker wrote: > > > > > > > >>Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with > >>Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with > >>Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? > >> > >> > > > >The sales guy is just trying to sell you more Cisco hardware. I have > >7910s, 7940s and 7960s at my house all running just fine on a Linksys > >24-port fast ethernet switch with zero problems. > > > > > > > > > -- > Shawn Parker > Network Administrator > Cumulus Broadcasting, LLC. > Columbia-Jefferson City, Missouri > 1.573.449.4141 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
> One problem a colleague and I discussed moments ago is the system may > preform "better" if we're using a Layer 3 switch. Which I would like > anyway, but isn't very cost effective for an office with 10 phones and 5 > workstations. A L3 switch would be almost half, if not more, the total > cost of the project build. I guess it also depends on the amount of > traffic and calls made from the office. But, other than the 4 sales > people, I don't imagine the office having a high volume of traffic in > and out. It is a small publishing house not a call center or support > company. The most they use the phone system for, other than selling > ads, is talking to each other and calling writers. Layer-3 switching won't add any value unless your network is rather large and you already have a need to segment it into broadcast domains. I do a fair amount of professional network performance work and we've actually been involved with a flat (layer-2 only) switched network that has over 900 active non-voip devices. Adding a couple of voip devices (for testing only) into the mix resulted in excellent quality. But, all of that depends upon how well managed the network is in the first place. Rich ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
Can anyone send me the sip images for the 7960g? I have 2 I want to test but need them to be sip. Thanks, Gary I've tried a *lot* of phones with Asterisk, and thus far, the Cisco's are by far the best I've used. Brian D'Arcy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Parker Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones I got a call from our Cisco rep today saying that they couldn't sell just phones to anyone because if "my ethernet isn't to exact spec..." then they won't work at all. I've read over the Wiki documentation and it seems that the 79xx series phones work with Asterisk. They told me that without a Cisco phone system in place or a Cisco router or switch, then the ethernet wouldn't work with the phones. Is this true, or is it someone just trying to sell me a Cisco system? I don't see how my use of a Planet or Netgear switch would alter the spec of my ethernet to cause a IP phone to fail. Seems far fetched to me. I've never had any other problems mixing Cisco equipment with other product lines. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? Cheers, Shawn ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
Thanks for the responses, everyone. One problem a colleague and I discussed moments ago is the system may preform "better" if we're using a Layer 3 switch. Which I would like anyway, but isn't very cost effective for an office with 10 phones and 5 workstations. A L3 switch would be almost half, if not more, the total cost of the project build. I guess it also depends on the amount of traffic and calls made from the office. But, other than the 4 sales people, I don't imagine the office having a high volume of traffic in and out. It is a small publishing house not a call center or support company. The most they use the phone system for, other than selling ads, is talking to each other and calling writers. Cheers, Joshua M. Thompson wrote: On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 11:31 -0500, Shawn Parker wrote: Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? The sales guy is just trying to sell you more Cisco hardware. I have 7910s, 7940s and 7960s at my house all running just fine on a Linksys 24-port fast ethernet switch with zero problems. -- Shawn Parker Network Administrator Cumulus Broadcasting, LLC. Columbia-Jefferson City, Missouri 1.573.449.4141 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
On Aug 13, 2004, at 9:31 AM, Shawn Parker wrote: I got a call from our Cisco rep today saying that they couldn't sell just phones to anyone because if "my ethernet isn't to exact spec..." then they won't work at all. I've read over the Wiki documentation and it seems that the 79xx series phones work with Asterisk. They told me that without a Cisco phone system in place or a Cisco router or switch, then the ethernet wouldn't work with the phones. Is this true, or is it someone just trying to sell me a Cisco system? I don't see how my use of a Planet or Netgear switch would alter the spec of my ethernet to cause a IP phone to fail. Seems far fetched to me. I've never had any other problems mixing Cisco equipment with other product lines. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? They're either trying to sell more Cisco hardware, or they're trying to lessen their own support burden. Either way, don't worry too much. My 7940 is plugged into a cheap Netgear switch right now, and it works fine. It was plugged into a Linksys WET-11 802.11b bridge before that, and it had problems, but so did ever other 802.11 device in the house. Too much interference from an unknown source. Power over Ethernet *might* be iffy if you have an older non-G Cisco phone and a standards-based PoE switch, but that's about it. Oh, and next time, don't start a new thread by replying to a message in an existing thread and then deleting the subject and body; it screws up threaded mail readers. Scott ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
Shawn, Just to back Brian up. I totally agree with his comments. I guess where they are coming from, but, what they are saying is total rubbish. They work superbly with asterisk. There can be QoS issues with cheaper switches, this can affect all any real-time media, maybe they do not want the association being made woth the Cisco phone. Best regards Steve Beaumont -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian D'Arcy Sent: 13 August 2004 17:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones Shawn, That's a complete load of manure. I have an office full of 7960's, they work great with asterisk with the SIP images loaded. I'm about to pick up a lot of 7912's (simple one line phones, same as the 7905 but it has a built in switch). These phones have also been confirmed to work with Asterisk. I would recommend not going directly to cisco, and just find a reseller who can offer you the phones preloaded with SIP images, or the phones + the smartnet contracts so you can get the images and firmware from cisco yourself! I've tried a *lot* of phones with Asterisk, and thus far, the Cisco's are by far the best I've used. Brian D'Arcy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Parker Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones I got a call from our Cisco rep today saying that they couldn't sell just phones to anyone because if "my ethernet isn't to exact spec..." then they won't work at all. I've read over the Wiki documentation and it seems that the 79xx series phones work with Asterisk. They told me that without a Cisco phone system in place or a Cisco router or switch, then the ethernet wouldn't work with the phones. Is this true, or is it someone just trying to sell me a Cisco system? I don't see how my use of a Planet or Netgear switch would alter the spec of my ethernet to cause a IP phone to fail. Seems far fetched to me. I've never had any other problems mixing Cisco equipment with other product lines. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? Cheers, Shawn ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 11:31 -0500, Shawn Parker wrote: > Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with > Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with > Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? The sales guy is just trying to sell you more Cisco hardware. I have 7910s, 7940s and 7960s at my house all running just fine on a Linksys 24-port fast ethernet switch with zero problems. -- Joshua M. Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
Shawn, That's a complete load of manure. I have an office full of 7960's, they work great with asterisk with the SIP images loaded. I'm about to pick up a lot of 7912's (simple one line phones, same as the 7905 but it has a built in switch). These phones have also been confirmed to work with Asterisk. I would recommend not going directly to cisco, and just find a reseller who can offer you the phones preloaded with SIP images, or the phones + the smartnet contracts so you can get the images and firmware from cisco yourself! I've tried a *lot* of phones with Asterisk, and thus far, the Cisco's are by far the best I've used. Brian D'Arcy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Parker Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones I got a call from our Cisco rep today saying that they couldn't sell just phones to anyone because if "my ethernet isn't to exact spec..." then they won't work at all. I've read over the Wiki documentation and it seems that the 79xx series phones work with Asterisk. They told me that without a Cisco phone system in place or a Cisco router or switch, then the ethernet wouldn't work with the phones. Is this true, or is it someone just trying to sell me a Cisco system? I don't see how my use of a Planet or Netgear switch would alter the spec of my ethernet to cause a IP phone to fail. Seems far fetched to me. I've never had any other problems mixing Cisco equipment with other product lines. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? Cheers, Shawn ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 79xx series IP phones
I got a call from our Cisco rep today saying that they couldn't sell just phones to anyone because if "my ethernet isn't to exact spec..." then they won't work at all. I've read over the Wiki documentation and it seems that the 79xx series phones work with Asterisk. They told me that without a Cisco phone system in place or a Cisco router or switch, then the ethernet wouldn't work with the phones. Is this true, or is it someone just trying to sell me a Cisco system? I don't see how my use of a Planet or Netgear switch would alter the spec of my ethernet to cause a IP phone to fail. Seems far fetched to me. I've never had any other problems mixing Cisco equipment with other product lines. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience to give me dealing with Cisco 7902G and 7905G IP phones and getting them to work on a lan with Asterisk when *not* using other Cisco hardware? Cheers, Shawn ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
