Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-12-01 Thread Linus Surguy
Indeed they do - but if you want numbers, you need to say where you are - 
there is no point our company supplying you with UK numbers or toll free, if 
you actually US people to call them!

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Mostly interested in US to US for now but interested in all areas, I was 
not aware I was restricted to looking for a provider in only certain 
areas. Most of the termination providers I have dealt with so far offer 
calling worldwide.

Thanks,
Todd
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I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the 
following:

-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
It is an appropriate question - but I think the 'Welcome to the mailing 
list' message should point out that this is not a USA only list - anyone 
who posts this type of message should really say where they want service 
to and from!

Linus
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-12-01 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 02:07 AM 11/28/04, you wrote:
I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I have 
found two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the features 
I want but horrible customer service/support and response times to my 
questions etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have great 
customer service but have awful connections to the web and basically 
unusable services.

Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that can 
provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer service?


Have you had experience with livevoip?
I saw their rates 1 - 10 minutes etc but their
TOS says only residential... very little market there
But I tried emailing them with regards to reselling
their service, so far no response.

Regards
Greg Cirino
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-12-01 Thread Me
Good point ;)
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Indeed they do - but if you want numbers, you need to say where you are - 
there is no point our company supplying you with UK numbers or toll free, 
if you actually US people to call them!

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Mostly interested in US to US for now but interested in all areas, I was 
not aware I was restricted to looking for a provider in only certain 
areas. Most of the termination providers I have dealt with so far offer 
calling worldwide.

Thanks,
Todd
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I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the 
following:

-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
It is an appropriate question - but I think the 'Welcome to the mailing 
list' message should point out that this is not a USA only list - anyone 
who posts this type of message should really say where they want service 
to and from!

Linus
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-12-01 Thread Me
I saw them too and they looked pretty good. I assume you can buy the minutes 
and use them for whatever you want.

Only issue I have with them at the moment is that their ping times don't 
seem great from where I will be setting up our initial server.

I may setup an account with them for testing purposes.
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At 02:07 AM 11/28/04, you wrote:
I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I have 
found two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the features 
I want but horrible customer service/support and response times to my 
questions etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have great 
customer service but have awful connections to the web and basically 
unusable services.

Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that can 
provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer service?


Have you had experience with livevoip?
I saw their rates 1 - 10 minutes etc but their
TOS says only residential... very little market there
But I tried emailing them with regards to reselling
their service, so far no response.

Regards
Greg Cirino
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-30 Thread Me
Hmm, interesting.. I guess my company is the Unicorn of wholesale dialup.. 
We are not a huge company but we do offer reliable services and the BEST 
customer service/tech support in the industry..

Guess I was silly for thinking I could find the same in the VOIP game.. 
Thanks for your input.

Todd Routhier
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Me wrote:
I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I have 
found two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the features 
I want but horrible customer service/support and response times to my 
questions etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have great 
customer service but have awful connections to the web and basically 
unusable services.

Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that can 
provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer service?

Price is important as well but comes last in line after the items 
mentioned above.
As far as I can tell there are no providers that match your requirements. 
It's the typical growth pattern.  Tiny companies have less reliable 
service, but great customer service.  Larger companies have more reliable 
service, but crappy customer service.  If you ever do fine a unicorn, let 
the rest of us know.

--Eric
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-30 Thread Me
Mostly interested in US to US for now but interested in all areas, I was not 
aware I was restricted to looking for a provider in only certain areas. Most 
of the termination providers I have dealt with so far offer calling 
worldwide.

Thanks,
Todd
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?



I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
It is an appropriate question - but I think the 'Welcome to the mailing 
list' message should point out that this is not a USA only list - anyone 
who posts this type of message should really say where they want service 
to and from!

Linus
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-30 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Me wrote:
Hmm, interesting.. I guess my company is the Unicorn of wholesale 
dialup.. We are not a huge company but we do offer reliable services and 
the BEST customer service/tech support in the industry..

Guess I was silly for thinking I could find the same in the VOIP game.. 
Thanks for your input.
There are MANY MANY more ISPs than ITSPs (VoIP providers).  My local ISP 
is one of the unicorn ISPs.  They are a redional ISP.  Large enough to 
have reliable service, small enough to actually provide support for 
their customers.

There seem to be a fairly large number of companies that offer outbound 
toll calling and inbound toll free service over VoIP, but a MUCH more 
limited number of companies offer inbound non-toll free numbers.  I 
suspect the cost of entry into the first market is reasonably small, 
where the cost of entering the DID market is much more.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-30 Thread Rich Adamson
  Hmm, interesting.. I guess my company is the Unicorn of wholesale 
  dialup.. We are not a huge company but we do offer reliable services and 
  the BEST customer service/tech support in the industry..
  
  Guess I was silly for thinking I could find the same in the VOIP game.. 
  Thanks for your input.
 
 There are MANY MANY more ISPs than ITSPs (VoIP providers).  My local ISP 
 is one of the unicorn ISPs.  They are a redional ISP.  Large enough to 
 have reliable service, small enough to actually provide support for 
 their customers.
 
 There seem to be a fairly large number of companies that offer outbound 
 toll calling and inbound toll free service over VoIP, but a MUCH more 
 limited number of companies offer inbound non-toll free numbers.  I 
 suspect the cost of entry into the first market is reasonably small, 
 where the cost of entering the DID market is much more.

Yes, and the DID pricing varies dramatically due to the individual tariffs
(rates) that each 'local' exchange has, verses the competitive toll business.
I.e, every mom and pop telco has a different DID rate. (And, if you get to
know some of them, they might just couph up other unpublished rates. :)



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-28 Thread Eric Wieling aka ManxPower
Me wrote:
I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I have 
found two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the 
features I want but horrible customer service/support and response times 
to my questions etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have 
great customer service but have awful connections to the web and 
basically unusable services.

Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that 
can provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer 
service?

Price is important as well but comes last in line after the items 
mentioned above.
As far as I can tell there are no providers that match your 
requirements.  It's the typical growth pattern.  Tiny companies have 
less reliable service, but great customer service.  Larger companies 
have more reliable service, but crappy customer service.  If you ever do 
fine a unicorn, let the rest of us know.

--Eric
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-28 Thread Doug Harris
 -Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
 -GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
 -Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
 -Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.

Well, you must be dreaming :)

It all depends on your buying power, if you have at least 2-3 million
minutes goto Level3 or  broadvox.

If you are just starting up and no commitments, then you have to stick with
one of the two categories that you mentioned below. I chose to use first
type you mentioned.

BTW:- if you find a provider which could give those points mentioned and
still go with no commitments, please let me know.

Cheers

Dough

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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?


 I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..

 I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:

 -Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
 -GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
 -Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
 -Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.

 So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I
 have found
 two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the
 features I want
 but horrible customer service/support and response times to my questions
 etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have great
 customer service
 but have awful connections to the web and basically unusable services.

 Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that can
 provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer service?

 Price is important as well but comes last in line after the items
 mentioned
 above.

 Thanks!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-28 Thread Linus Surguy

I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
It is an appropriate question - but I think the 'Welcome to the mailing 
list' message should point out that this is not a USA only list - anyone who 
posts this type of message should really say where they want service to and 
from!

Linus
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[Asterisk-Users] Experiences with Termination Providers?

2004-11-27 Thread Me
I hope this is an appropriate question for the list..
I am looking for a VOIP termination provider who can offer the following:
-Flat Rate DID's in lots of areas
-GOOD customer service/support with quick response times
-Toll Free DID's at a reasonable rate
-Reliable/Redundant network and availability etc.
So far I have tested 4 providers which I will not mention here. I have found 
two of them to be offer a quality service with most of the features I want 
but horrible customer service/support and response times to my questions 
etc. The other two seem to respond quickly and have great customer service 
but have awful connections to the web and basically unusable services.

Can someone recommend a termination partner for our VOIP Venture that can 
provide reliable services, good features/DID's and GOOD customer service?

Price is important as well but comes last in line after the items mentioned 
above.

Thanks!
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