[Asterisk-Users] callers who don't press any keys

2005-01-17 Thread Warren Burstein
I've noticed that some callers listen to our main menu and don't press 
any keys.  I have it set up to restart the menu a few times and 
eventually hang up.  I'm wondering if these are wrong numbers (in that 
case, why don't they hang up) or they really want to speak to someone 
here but don't understand the menu (what's so hard about for the 
operator, press zero?).  They couldn't still have rotary phones (or 
phones set to pulse dial), could they?

I've been thinking of changing the menu so that if they don't press any 
keys, the eventually get the operator.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] callers who don't press any keys

2005-01-17 Thread Matt Riddell
Warren Burstein wrote:
I've noticed that some callers listen to our main menu and don't press 
any keys.  I have it set up to restart the menu a few times and 
eventually hang up.  I'm wondering if these are wrong numbers (in that 
case, why don't they hang up) or they really want to speak to someone 
here but don't understand the menu (what's so hard about for the 
operator, press zero?).  They couldn't still have rotary phones (or 
phones set to pulse dial), could they?

I've been thinking of changing the menu so that if they don't press any 
keys, the eventually get the operator.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
Yeah.  I get the same thing.  Not very often, but concerning none the less.
I guess the best bet would be to send all of these people to a 
particular extension.  I.E. if you have zap extensions, you could do a 
dial with r3 or r4 to change the ringing tone.  That way you would know 
that they came to you because they didn't enter a number, and you could 
interrogate them as to what/how/why etc...

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] callers who don't press any keys

2005-01-17 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 19:32 -0500, Warren Burstein wrote:
 I've noticed that some callers listen to our main menu and don't press 
 any keys.  I have it set up to restart the menu a few times and 
 eventually hang up.  I'm wondering if these are wrong numbers (in that 
 case, why don't they hang up) or they really want to speak to someone 
 here but don't understand the menu (what's so hard about for the 
 operator, press zero?).  They couldn't still have rotary phones (or 
 phones set to pulse dial), could they?
 
 I've been thinking of changing the menu so that if they don't press any 
 keys, the eventually get the operator.
 
 Does anyone have any experience with this?

Not specifically, though typically, the usual handling of this is to
transfer to an operator if they do nothing You may want to modify
your current hangup behaviour.

You may not have disconnect notification, or detection working, and so
the end user may have hung up, but your end doesn't realise, so it
cycles through the menu before hanging up (if you change to transfer to
an operator, then the operator should tell you they are getting lots of
calls with some tone??

Some people don't actually bother listening to all the crap, and just
wait for someone to answer... The number of people that ignore the
announcement of our company name, etc, and still think they are talking
to a different company... it surprises me

Personally, it depends on how important the person contacting you is. If
it is a home phone, then don't worry, it is probably a tele-marketer or
something. If it is a problem, your mum/girlfriend/wife will tell you
sooner or later that you kept hanging up on her...
If it is a business, I'd strongly suggest changing to a default of 'send
to an operator' and let a human decide whether to hangup or not.

Just my 0.02c

Regards,
Adam
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] callers who don't press any keys

2005-01-17 Thread el Flynn
Warren Burstein wrote:
I've noticed that some callers listen to our main menu and don't press 
any keys.  I have it set up to restart the menu a few times and 
eventually hang up.  I'm wondering if these are wrong numbers (in that 
case, why don't they hang up) or they really want to speak to someone 
here but don't understand the menu (what's so hard about for the 
operator, press zero?).  They couldn't still have rotary phones (or 
phones set to pulse dial), could they?

I've been thinking of changing the menu so that if they don't press any 
keys, the eventually get the operator.

Does anyone have any experience with this?
For me most of the times its due to the TDM400P not being able to recognize the 
caller had hung up (although sometimes it does, which is puzzling).

What I normally do is have a global attempt counter, and increment it 
everytime the caller ends up in the t extension. Once it reaches a specified 
maxattempt value, decided via a GotoIf statement in the t extension, you just 
hang up the caller.

Flynn
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] callers who don't press any keys

2005-01-17 Thread John Millican
 Warren Burstein wrote:
  I've noticed that some callers listen to our main menu and don't
  press any keys.  
snip

 Remember Rotary Phones?  They are still in use in some homes/areas
John M
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