[Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Richard
Title: polycom IP 500/600






Hi,

A few questions about polycom IP 500/600.

. how do I reset everything to factory default? The combination of 4,6,8,* seems only reset the network setup. Other settings, e.g. time server, SIP configure are still there.

. is a way to push ftp username/password via dhcp? I’d like to change the default username and password, but don’t want to manually set each phone.

Thanks,


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Richard wrote:
Hi,
A few questions about polycom IP 500/600.
. how do I reset everything to factory default? The combination of 
4,6,8,* seems only reset the network setup. Other settings, e.g. time 
server, SIP configure are still there.

. is a way to push ftp username/password via dhcp? I’d like to change 
the default username and password, but don’t want to manually set each 
phone.

Thanks,

Richard,
	Use DHCP to assign a TFTP server (isc-dhcpd: "next server" or maybe 
"next-server" option).  Put configs for your phones on that tftp server. 
 The wiki has a link to this:

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Polycom+Phones
http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Peter Johnson
Title: Message



Try 
resetting user settings from the phone menu.
 
Peter

  
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  500/600
  Hi,
  A few questions about 
  polycom IP 500/600.
  . how do I reset 
  everything to factory default? The combination of 4,6,8,* seems only reset the network 
  setup. Other settings, e.g. time 
  server, SIP configure are still there.
  . is a way to push ftp 
  username/password via dhcp? I’d like to change the default username and password, but 
  don’t want to manually set each phone.
  Thanks,
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Richard
Hi Kristian,

I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?

Thanks,


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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600
> 
> Richard wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > A few questions about polycom IP 500/600.
> >
> > . how do I reset everything to factory default? The combination of
> > 4,6,8,* seems only reset the network setup. Other settings, e.g. time
> > server, SIP configure are still there.
> >
> > . is a way to push ftp username/password via dhcp? I'd like to change
> > the default username and password, but don't want to manually set each
> > phone.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> 
> Richard,
> 
>   Use DHCP to assign a TFTP server (isc-dhcpd: "next server" or maybe
> "next-server" option).  Put configs for your phones on that tftp server.
>   The wiki has a link to this:
> 
> http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Polycom+Phones
> 
> http://www.freedomphones.net/polycom/files/
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,
	I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename changes).  Why 
is the default password such a big issue?

	This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to know it's 
new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Bob Knight
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to 
each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?

Thanks,
I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename changes).  
Why is the default password such a big issue?
As a polycom user, it is the default username that is the issue.
It is mixed case, something like Polycom.  I think the good old
tty drivers still support upper case only terminals, so as soon
as it sees the capital P, it will turn on folding.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Tim Jackson
Use something like ProFTPD or something that is "supported" under their
manual (These are better FTP daemons anyway). 

The default username/pass is PlcmSpIp btw.

-Tim

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Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kristian,
>>
>> I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For
example,
>> ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the
default
>> password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go
to 
>> each
>> phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
> 
> I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename changes).

> Why is the default password such a big issue?

As a polycom user, it is the default username that is the issue.
It is mixed case, something like Polycom.  I think the good old
tty drivers still support upper case only terminals, so as soon
as it sees the capital P, it will turn on folding.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Richard
The default user name and password is a huge issue in some cases. For
example, hackers can get into the server, grab the configuration, program
their own phone and make free calls. Another example, if you have multiple
domains, then you want different username/passwd for each domain.

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> Richard wrote:
> > Hi Kristian,
> >
> > I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
> > ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
> > password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to
> each
> > phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> 
>   I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename changes).
> Why
> is the default password such a big issue?
> 
>   This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to know
> it's
> new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-26 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Richard wrote:
The default user name and password is a huge issue in some cases. For
example, hackers can get into the server, grab the configuration, program
their own phone and make free calls. Another example, if you have multiple
domains, then you want different username/passwd for each domain.
I can understand this, although I would like to think that good network 
design could prevent you from opening up your ftp (unencrypted!) server 
to the internet at large (using a firewall, etc.).

Any way you look at it, there is still the chicken and the egg issue 
that I pointed out earlier.  You cannot use the configuration file to 
specify a custom username and password until you get the configuration 
file in the first place!

This is why the Cisco and Polycom's use CDP for VLAN configuration - you 
can set the VLAN BEFORE the DHCP request is made - to make sure that you 
get to the proper network (and DHCP server) in the first place.

The only way that I see your problem working is if Polycom adds the 
option to set username and password via custom DHCP options to the 
firmware.  That way you would have the username and password BEFORE you 
needed to login to the FTP server.  Maybe an idea for them?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:31, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> > The default user name and password is a huge issue in some cases. For
> > example, hackers can get into the server, grab the configuration, program
> > their own phone and make free calls. Another example, if you have multiple
> > domains, then you want different username/passwd for each domain.
> > 
> 
> I can understand this, although I would like to think that good network 
> design could prevent you from opening up your ftp (unencrypted!) server 
> to the internet at large (using a firewall, etc.).

Well, since the phones don't support scp or sftp, then I don't suppose
those options are available.

> This is why the Cisco and Polycom's use CDP for VLAN configuration - you 
> can set the VLAN BEFORE the DHCP request is made - to make sure that you 
> get to the proper network (and DHCP server) in the first place.

But of course, the phones may not all be on your lan! They could be
anywhere on the internet. This is the whole point of VoIP.

> The only way that I see your problem working is if Polycom adds the 
> option to set username and password via custom DHCP options to the 
> firmware.  That way you would have the username and password BEFORE you 
> needed to login to the FTP server.  Maybe an idea for them?

Precisely, I think this is what the original poster wanted to know. How
to set the ftp user/pass from DHCP.

PS, of course, if the phone is elsewhere, then you also can't set the
ftp user/pass via DHCP, since it isn't your DHCP server. Also, wherever
I mentioned setting FTP user/pass via DHCP, you should add setting the
FTP server name via DHCP as well. This means you can look at the box of
a polycom phone (since the MAC address is on the outside of the box),
configure the phone extensions/registrations/etc, hand the box to the
user and tell them to go back to their desk and plug it in. Currently,
you need to unpack the phone, configure the FTP servername, user,
passwd, re-pack the box, and then tell the user to go plug it in etc...

Regards,
Adam

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Adam Goryachev wrote:
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:31, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Richard wrote:
The default user name and password is a huge issue in some cases. For
example, hackers can get into the server, grab the configuration, program
their own phone and make free calls. Another example, if you have multiple
domains, then you want different username/passwd for each domain.
I can understand this, although I would like to think that good network 
design could prevent you from opening up your ftp (unencrypted!) server 
to the internet at large (using a firewall, etc.).

Well, since the phones don't support scp or sftp, then I don't suppose
those options are available.

This is why the Cisco and Polycom's use CDP for VLAN configuration - you 
can set the VLAN BEFORE the DHCP request is made - to make sure that you 
get to the proper network (and DHCP server) in the first place.

But of course, the phones may not all be on your lan! They could be
anywhere on the internet. This is the whole point of VoIP.

The only way that I see your problem working is if Polycom adds the 
option to set username and password via custom DHCP options to the 
firmware.  That way you would have the username and password BEFORE you 
needed to login to the FTP server.  Maybe an idea for them?

Precisely, I think this is what the original poster wanted to know. How
to set the ftp user/pass from DHCP.
PS, of course, if the phone is elsewhere, then you also can't set the
ftp user/pass via DHCP, since it isn't your DHCP server. Also, wherever
I mentioned setting FTP user/pass via DHCP, you should add setting the
FTP server name via DHCP as well. This means you can look at the box of
a polycom phone (since the MAC address is on the outside of the box),
configure the phone extensions/registrations/etc, hand the box to the
user and tell them to go back to their desk and plug it in. Currently,
you need to unpack the phone, configure the FTP servername, user,
passwd, re-pack the box, and then tell the user to go plug it in etc...
Regards,
Adam
Adam,
	I understand that the premise with VoIP phones can be placed anywhere 
on the internet.  I don't think that phones like the Polycom are 
optimally designed to be used at locations that are not connected to a 
lan not specifically designed for them.  I picture Polycoms, Ciscos, 
etc. used in traditional office settings, or branch offices with VPNs 
anyways.  Lets face it - they speak SIP only, and their NAT functions 
are severely limited anyways (no NAT mapping, STUN, etc.).  All of this 
combined do not make for a very good single remote location phone.  I 
would love to see someone be able to unplug the phone from their desk 
and plug it in at home (with no prior setup, knowledge, etc.), but I 
understand why that just won't work (right now).  Sipuras can download 
their config and store it in non-volatile memory.  I don't know why 
Polycoms don't have this option, and why Cisco has such a limited 
version of it.  I just got done re-reading the Polycom admin manual and 
I saw no way to set either the FTP server, username or password via DHCP 
or config file.  I hope that answers the OP's question.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Richard
The ease of configuration is the biggest concern here. I'd like to try
everything to avoid pressing the keypad of the phone to change the setting.
There is no way I want to go to a site to make a configuration change.

We will most likely deploy a small appliance as a local dhcp and ftp server
inside a customer's network. Therefore security is less an issue. We only
have ssh access to the local server. Then if we make any change, we just
change the setting on the server and send a command to reboot the phone.
Again there is no way I visit each site and punch keys on each phone.

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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600
> 
> Adam Goryachev wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:31, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> >
> >>Richard wrote:
> >>
> >>>The default user name and password is a huge issue in some cases. For
> >>>example, hackers can get into the server, grab the configuration,
> program
> >>>their own phone and make free calls. Another example, if you have
> multiple
> >>>domains, then you want different username/passwd for each domain.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I can understand this, although I would like to think that good network
> >>design could prevent you from opening up your ftp (unencrypted!) server
> >>to the internet at large (using a firewall, etc.).
> >
> >
> > Well, since the phones don't support scp or sftp, then I don't suppose
> > those options are available.
> >
> >
> >>This is why the Cisco and Polycom's use CDP for VLAN configuration - you
> >>can set the VLAN BEFORE the DHCP request is made - to make sure that you
> >>get to the proper network (and DHCP server) in the first place.
> >
> >
> > But of course, the phones may not all be on your lan! They could be
> > anywhere on the internet. This is the whole point of VoIP.
> >
> >
> >>The only way that I see your problem working is if Polycom adds the
> >>option to set username and password via custom DHCP options to the
> >>firmware.  That way you would have the username and password BEFORE you
> >>needed to login to the FTP server.  Maybe an idea for them?
> >
> >
> > Precisely, I think this is what the original poster wanted to know. How
> > to set the ftp user/pass from DHCP.
> >
> > PS, of course, if the phone is elsewhere, then you also can't set the
> > ftp user/pass via DHCP, since it isn't your DHCP server. Also, wherever
> > I mentioned setting FTP user/pass via DHCP, you should add setting the
> > FTP server name via DHCP as well. This means you can look at the box of
> > a polycom phone (since the MAC address is on the outside of the box),
> > configure the phone extensions/registrations/etc, hand the box to the
> > user and tell them to go back to their desk and plug it in. Currently,
> > you need to unpack the phone, configure the FTP servername, user,
> > passwd, re-pack the box, and then tell the user to go plug it in etc...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adam
> >
> 
> Adam,
> 
>   I understand that the premise with VoIP phones can be placed
> anywhere
> on the internet.  I don't think that phones like the Polycom are
> optimally designed to be used at locations that are not connected to a
> lan not specifically designed for them.  I picture Polycoms, Ciscos,
> etc. used in traditional office settings, or branch offices with VPNs
> anyways.  Lets face it - they speak SIP only, and their NAT functions
> are severely limited anyways (no NAT mapping, STUN, etc.).  All of this
> combined do not make for a very good single remote location phone.  I
> would love to see someone be able to unplug the phone from their desk
> and plug it in at home (with no prior setup, knowledge, etc.), but I
> understand why that just won't work (right now).  Sipuras can download
> their config and store it in non-volatile memory.  I don't know why
> Polycoms don't have this option, and why Cisco has such a limited
> version of it.  I just got done re-reading the Polycom admin manual and
> I saw no way to set either the FTP server, username or password via DHCP
> or config file.  I hope that answers the OP's question.
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Richard wrote:
The ease of configuration is the biggest concern here. I'd like to try
everything to avoid pressing the keypad of the phone to change the setting.
There is no way I want to go to a site to make a configuration change.
We will most likely deploy a small appliance as a local dhcp and ftp server
inside a customer's network. Therefore security is less an issue. We only
have ssh access to the local server. Then if we make any change, we just
change the setting on the server and send a command to reboot the phone.
Again there is no way I visit each site and punch keys on each phone.
I totally understand.
For a device to be ftp/dhcp server, may I reccomend a Linksys WRT54G? 
If you don't already have some, get one a get OpenWRT.  You could SSH 
into it on the WAN (with a dyndns client if you need one), and run a 
DNS,DHCP and FTP server on it internally.  Or ipsec, or even Asterisk! 
I highly suggest you try them out.  Remember that you can always turn 
off the wireless radio.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Richard wrote:
The ease of configuration is the biggest concern here. I'd like to try
everything to avoid pressing the keypad of the phone to change the 
setting.
There is no way I want to go to a site to make a configuration change.

We will most likely deploy a small appliance as a local dhcp and ftp 
server
inside a customer's network. Therefore security is less an issue. We only
have ssh access to the local server. Then if we make any change, we just
change the setting on the server and send a command to reboot the phone.
Again there is no way I visit each site and punch keys on each phone.

I totally understand.
For a device to be ftp/dhcp server, may I reccomend a Linksys WRT54G? If 
you don't already have some, get one a get OpenWRT.  You could SSH into 
it on the WAN (with a dyndns client if you need one), and run a DNS,DHCP 
and FTP server on it internally.  Or ipsec, or even Asterisk! I highly 
suggest you try them out.  Remember that you can always turn off the 
wireless radio.

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I meant to say WRT54GS. Sorry.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Richard
Haha, we are on the same page... wrt54gs with openwrt is exactly what I am
using now, though not too happy with the slow progress of kernel source
update...


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> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600
> 
> Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> 
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> >> The ease of configuration is the biggest concern here. I'd like to try
> >> everything to avoid pressing the keypad of the phone to change the
> >> setting.
> >> There is no way I want to go to a site to make a configuration change.
> >>
> >> We will most likely deploy a small appliance as a local dhcp and ftp
> >> server
> >> inside a customer's network. Therefore security is less an issue. We
> only
> >> have ssh access to the local server. Then if we make any change, we
> just
> >> change the setting on the server and send a command to reboot the
phone.
> >> Again there is no way I visit each site and punch keys on each phone.
> >>
> >
> > I totally understand.
> >
> > For a device to be ftp/dhcp server, may I reccomend a Linksys WRT54G? If
> > you don't already have some, get one a get OpenWRT.  You could SSH into
> > it on the WAN (with a dyndns client if you need one), and run a DNS,DHCP
> > and FTP server on it internally.  Or ipsec, or even Asterisk! I highly
> > suggest you try them out.  Remember that you can always turn off the
> > wireless radio.
> >
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> 
> I meant to say WRT54GS. Sorry.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-27 Thread Richard
More thoughts, polycom can have two options to send ftp login info.

1. use dhcp to push username and password. It can use either the existing
dhcp options, e.g. bootp file name field as a string to send
"username/password", or define a new vendor specified field.

2. use the existing ftp account to get the config file. If it includes a new
ftp username/password, phone should reboot and try to use the new username
and password. This is the way how cisco ata works with new authentication
key.

Richard


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> 
> Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> 
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> >> The ease of configuration is the biggest concern here. I'd like to try
> >> everything to avoid pressing the keypad of the phone to change the
> >> setting.
> >> There is no way I want to go to a site to make a configuration change.
> >>
> >> We will most likely deploy a small appliance as a local dhcp and ftp
> >> server
> >> inside a customer's network. Therefore security is less an issue. We
> only
> >> have ssh access to the local server. Then if we make any change, we
> just
> >> change the setting on the server and send a command to reboot the
phone.
> >> Again there is no way I visit each site and punch keys on each phone.
> >>
> >
> > I totally understand.
> >
> > For a device to be ftp/dhcp server, may I reccomend a Linksys WRT54G? If
> > you don't already have some, get one a get OpenWRT.  You could SSH into
> > it on the WAN (with a dyndns client if you need one), and run a DNS,DHCP
> > and FTP server on it internally.  Or ipsec, or even Asterisk! I highly
> > suggest you try them out.  Remember that you can always turn off the
> > wireless radio.
> >
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-30 Thread Karl J. Vesterling



One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all the
issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.
At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For
example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the
default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to
each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,

I
understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename changes).  Why
is the default password such a big issue?
This is a
chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to know it's new ftp
password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-30 Thread John Baker
The phone has a web interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect script 
to change it?

John Baker
Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all the 
issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.

At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go 
to each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,

I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename 
changes).  Why is the default password such a big issue?

This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to 
know it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-30 Thread Karl J. Vesterling



My bad...  I thought he was attempting to upload config files for
asterisk systems.
Yes, an expect script would work just fine...
At 11:21 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:
The phone has a web
interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect script to change
it?
John Baker

Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
One could use SCP with
certificates for authentication and avoid all the issues with FTP and
it's vulnerabilities.
At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For
example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the
default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to
each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,
    I understand why you would
want to use FTP (no filename changes).  Why is the default password
such a big issue?
    This is a chicken or the egg -
how is the phone supposed to know it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get
the config file - via FTP!?!
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-30 Thread Richard








If the phone is behind a NAT firewall, it
would require extra configuration on the firewall. Depending on the
circumstance, it is not always be possible to make such a change.

 











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polycom IP 500/600



 


My bad...  I thought he was attempting to upload config files for asterisk
systems.

Yes, an expect script would work just fine...

At 11:21 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:



The phone has a web interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect
script to change it?

John Baker


Karl J. Vesterling wrote:




One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all
the issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.
At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:




Richard wrote:




Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,



    I understand why you would want to
use FTP (no filename changes).  Why is the default password such a big
issue?

    This is a chicken or the egg - how
is the phone supposed to know it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get the
config file - via FTP!?!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-31 Thread John Baker
So what?  You said you had ssh access.  Use ssh forward.
Here's another way.  Might work for you, I don't know.
You could easily setup a secure tunnel (think openvpn) to run your ftp 
server on locally.  That way you could keep all the configs in one place.

You could open the tunnel when it's time to update the phones and then 
have the phones use your local server as the ftp source.

You just reboot the phones remotely and close the tunnel once all the 
phones have updated.

With this method, run ntp on both sides so that the timestamp change 
thingy will work right.

Really, there must be a million ways to do this.  I think you're trying 
too hard.

John
Richard wrote:
If the phone is behind a NAT firewall, it would require extra 
configuration on the firewall. Depending on the circumstance, it is not 
always be possible to make such a change.

 


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My bad...  I thought he was attempting to upload config files for 
asterisk systems.

Yes, an expect script would work just fine...
At 11:21 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:
The phone has a web interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect script 
to change it?

John Baker
Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all the 
issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.
At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:

Richard wrote:
Hi Kristian,
I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to each
phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
Thanks,

I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename 
changes).  Why is the default password such a big issue?

This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to know 
it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-31 Thread Richard
I think that the topic is sidetracked...

My original question is about how to change the default username and
password for ftp login. I want to change it, but don't want to punch the
keypad manually. I don't think that this can be done via web interface
either.

Richard




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Baker
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:54 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600
> 
> So what?  You said you had ssh access.  Use ssh forward.
> 
> Here's another way.  Might work for you, I don't know.
> 
> You could easily setup a secure tunnel (think openvpn) to run your ftp
> server on locally.  That way you could keep all the configs in one place.
> 
> You could open the tunnel when it's time to update the phones and then
> have the phones use your local server as the ftp source.
> 
> You just reboot the phones remotely and close the tunnel once all the
> phones have updated.
> 
> With this method, run ntp on both sides so that the timestamp change
> thingy will work right.
> 
> Really, there must be a million ways to do this.  I think you're trying
> too hard.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> Richard wrote:
> > If the phone is behind a NAT firewall, it would require extra
> > configuration on the firewall. Depending on the circumstance, it is not
> > always be possible to make such a change.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Karl J.
> > Vesterling
> > *Sent:* Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:30 PM
> > *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > *Subject:* Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My bad...  I thought he was attempting to upload config files for
> > asterisk systems.
> >
> > Yes, an expect script would work just fine...
> >
> > At 11:21 PM 10/30/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > The phone has a web interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect script
> > to change it?
> >
> > John Baker
> >
> >
> > Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
> >
> >
> > One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all the
> > issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.
> > At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Kristian,
> > I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
> > ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
> > password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go to
> each
> > phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename
> > changes).  Why is the default password such a big issue?
> >
> > This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to know
> > it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!
> >
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] polycom IP 500/600

2004-10-31 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Another idea, not sure if it was stated yet is to just run the ftp
server on a private ip address and/or if you are going to have it on a
public ip restrict by ip address.  I run my ftp server on a private ip
which is open to everyone on the private lan and on the public side,
for example I only allow one static ip address to connect to it
because I only have one outside person with a polycom phone and they
have a static ip.

Just an idea.


On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:21:01 -0500, John Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> The phone has a web interface.  Couldn't you just use an expect script
> to change it?
> 
> John Baker
> 
> Karl J. Vesterling wrote:
> 
> >
> > One could use SCP with certificates for authentication and avoid all the
> > issues with FTP and it's vulnerabilities.
> >
> > At 07:55 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
> >
> >> Richard wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Kristian,
> >>> I'd like to use ftp because of several advantages it has. For example,
> >>> ability to change the time stamp and reload the phone. But the default
> >>> password is a big issue. I'd like to change it but don't want to go
> >>> to each
> >>> phone and reset it. Any way to change it?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> I understand why you would want to use FTP (no filename
> >> changes).  Why is the default password such a big issue?
> >>
> >> This is a chicken or the egg - how is the phone supposed to
> >> know it's new ftp password BEFORE it can get the config file - via FTP!?!
> >>
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[Asterisk-Users] Polycom IP-500 & 600 Nat settings.

2005-06-09 Thread Ariel Batista



I have looked at the wiki and the mailing list. But 
I need to find how do we setup the external IP address and the rtp ports for the 
Polycom IP-500 and IP-600.  There web interface has a nat setting but can't 
find instructions on how to set this up. I would like to set this up via there 
ftp file setup instead of via there web setting.
 
Also There QoS settings are set to 5 and 2 but 
there it does not say if you change it to 7 or to a lower number which one gives 
you better priority.
 
Main problem I am having is that the polycoms work 
great as long as there on the same LAN. once they go through a Nat router even 
if all the ports are open we get one way audio or no audio.  The asterisk 
servers are on a real world IP address and the Phones are behind a Nat firewall 
called m0n0wall.  We have all ports open going out to where the asterisk 
box is setup.
 
 
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