Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-07 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Steve Totaro wrote:

  If your M13 is coming up clean, I'd double check the continuity to
  those ports from the DSX connections out to the patch panel.

 That was exactly the issue.  The amphenol cable was loose on one end.  
 What is the best way to fasten these things?  There is only a screw on 
 one side.  I am duct taping these things down for now but what is the 
 standard way of fastening them?  The Adtran didn't come with a clip or 
 velcro or anything, neither did the TenorAX boxes I am using.

We went the Duct Tape route initially for the side that doesn't have the 
screw, but eventually moved to some velcro contraption that one of our 
techs dreamed up while drinking at the bar downstairs. So far, so good. We 
just stay far away from the connections on the back of the rack! ;)

The MX200 is a fantastic product, with great support! I'll never even 
consider buying a mux from another company after the support that Adtran 
has given us with ours.

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[asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread Steve Totaro
I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two coaxial 
cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I went to Radio 
Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not have any but they did 
have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those. 

Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of four 
T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight on a 
Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for the DS3.  
I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?


I have already tried the same cables and server on known working T1s and 
they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s so I dont 
think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box (as Global 
Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second controller card in 
the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol connection between the Adtran 
MX2800 and the T1 breakout box. 


Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread Jerry Jones
If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are  
probably not the issue.


What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop  
toward * does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?



On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two  
coaxial cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I  
went to Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not  
have any but they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those.
Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of  
four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight  
on a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for  
the DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?


I have already tried the same cables and server on known working  
T1s and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s  
so I dont think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box  
(as Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second  
controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol  
connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout box.

Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread Steve Totaro
I am not totally up to speed on the MX2800 but I have gone to loopback 
tests and loop T1 25-28 and selected every possible selection while 
watching pri debug span 1 on the console, no output at all. 


Jerry Jones wrote:
If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are probably 
not the issue.


What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop toward 
* does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?



On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two coaxial 
cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I went to 
Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not have any but 
they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those.
Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of 
four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight on 
a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for the 
DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?


I have already tried the same cables and server on known working T1s 
and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s so I 
dont think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box (as 
Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second 
controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol 
connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout box.

Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread Jerry Jones
The MUX will give you stats for every line running through it, DS1,  
DS2, and DS3. Start there. What errors is it reporting?


Actually I did that backwards, start with DS3 then do DS1, if 3 has  
issues so will everything else.



On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Steve Totaro wrote:

I am not totally up to speed on the MX2800 but I have gone to  
loopback tests and loop T1 25-28 and selected every possible  
selection while watching pri debug span 1 on the console, no output  
at all.

Jerry Jones wrote:
If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are  
probably not the issue.


What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop  
toward * does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?



On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two  
coaxial cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I  
went to Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not  
have any but they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of  
those.
Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of  
four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or  
greenlight on a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only  
responsible for the DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be  
the problem?


I have already tried the same cables and server on known working  
T1s and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those  
T1s so I dont think the problem is between the Adtran and  
Asterisk box (as Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing  
to the second controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the  
amphenol connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout  
box.

Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread BJ Weschke

On 8/4/06, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am not totally up to speed on the MX2800 but I have gone to loopback
tests and loop T1 25-28 and selected every possible selection while
watching pri debug span 1 on the console, no output at all.

Jerry Jones wrote:
 If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are probably
 not the issue.

 What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop toward
 * does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?


 On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

 I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two coaxial
 cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I went to
 Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not have any but
 they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those.
 Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of
 four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight on
 a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for the
 DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?

 I have already tried the same cables and server on known working T1s
 and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s so I
 dont think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box (as
 Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second
 controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol
 connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout box.
 Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

 I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.



If your M13 is coming up clean, I'd double check the continuity to
those ports from the DSX connections out to the patch panel.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread Steve Totaro

BJ Weschke wrote:

On 8/4/06, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am not totally up to speed on the MX2800 but I have gone to loopback
tests and loop T1 25-28 and selected every possible selection while
watching pri debug span 1 on the console, no output at all.

Jerry Jones wrote:
 If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are probably
 not the issue.

 What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop toward
 * does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?


 On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:

 I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two coaxial
 cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I went to
 Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not have any but
 they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those.
 Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of
 four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight on
 a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for the
 DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?

 I have already tried the same cables and server on known working T1s
 and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s so I
 dont think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box (as
 Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second
 controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol
 connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout box.
 Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?

 I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.



If your M13 is coming up clean, I'd double check the continuity to
those ports from the DSX connections out to the patch panel.

That was exactly the issue.  The amphenol cable was loose on one end.  
What is the best way to fasten these things?  There is only a screw on 
one side.  I am duct taping these things down for now but what is the 
standard way of fastening them?  The Adtran didn't come with a clip or 
velcro or anything, neither did the TenorAX boxes I am using.


Thanks
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread BJ Weschke

On 8/4/06, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

BJ Weschke wrote:
 On 8/4/06, Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am not totally up to speed on the MX2800 but I have gone to loopback
 tests and loop T1 25-28 and selected every possible selection while
 watching pri debug span 1 on the console, no output at all.

 Jerry Jones wrote:
  If you see no errors on your MX2800 for the ds3 then they are probably
  not the issue.
 
  What does the MX2800 show for T1 which do not work? If you loop toward
  * does the card see itself? Loop toward GX do they see?
 
 
  On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
 
  I have a DS3/T3 that was dropped into my telco closet as two coaxial
  cables.  A send and receive.  I needed to extend it so I went to
  Radio Shack to buy some barrel connectors.  They did not have any but
  they did have T-Connectors so I bought a couple of those.
  Everything was fine up until I went to turn up the seventh set of
  four T1s.  They will not come up, no Asterisk output or greenlight on
  a Digium TE410.  Global Crossing says they only responsible for the
  DS3.  I wonder if the T-Connectors could be the problem?
 
  I have already tried the same cables and server on known working T1s
  and they come up fine.  My Adtran MX2800 shows OK for those T1s so I
  dont think the problem is between the Adtran and Asterisk box (as
  Global Crossing claims), I have tried changing to the second
  controller card in the Adtran and also reseated the amphenol
  connection between the Adtran MX2800 and the T1 breakout box.
  Anyone with this kind of experience have any ideas?
 
  I am going to find some real barrel connectors and try that next.
 

 If your M13 is coming up clean, I'd double check the continuity to
 those ports from the DSX connections out to the patch panel.

That was exactly the issue.  The amphenol cable was loose on one end.
What is the best way to fasten these things?  There is only a screw on
one side.  I am duct taping these things down for now but what is the
standard way of fastening them?  The Adtran didn't come with a clip or
velcro or anything, neither did the TenorAX boxes I am using.



It's a fairly common issue, and unfortunately, there isn't a best
practice solution that I've seen people use that isn't ugly. In a
prior job they zip tied the cables down to the connectors and this
fairly reliable.

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Re: [asterisk-users] (OT) DS3 Barrel/T-connector/Adtran MX2800 Problems

2006-08-04 Thread David Coulson
BJ Weschke wrote:
 It's a fairly common issue, and unfortunately, there isn't a best
 practice solution that I've seen people use that isn't ugly. In a
 prior job they zip tied the cables down to the connectors and this
 fairly reliable.

At least on my MX2800s there is a loop for a zip tie on the back on the
left on the amphenol connector. If you connect them so the cable comes
out the left side, it's pretty easy to secure them on the right side
with a screw and on the left side with the zip tie. I think mine even
came with little 4 zip ties that did the trick without looking ugly.

If you have them connected the other way around (e.g. screw on the left,
cable on the right), make sure you take out the connector for DC too, as
these will stop the connector from being in securely. No zip tie on that
side though.


David

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