Re: [asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-07 Thread James Sneeringer
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Bill Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The IP330 has a subminiature jack for headset/mic combos.  Are there quality
 headsets anyone would recommend for in-office use for heavy users with these
 phones?  Using any wiring path?  I've tried a cell phone earphone/mic, and
 it sounds OK, but it's flimsy for this application.

We've started switching out our Plantronics M-series amplifiers and
headsets with headsets from Jabra. Some of our agents have a problem
with their M-series amps where they get no audio when they pick up
using the phone's headset button, and they have to quickly go on-hook
and off-hook again with the amp. We also had some S11 sets, with which
we experienced horrible echo.

The main upshot for us is that the Jabra headsets don't require an
external amp, so they're simpler to install and cost less. We're using
them on Polycom 330, 550, and 650 sets, and the audio quality is
great. The have the usual quick-disconnect, so they're appropriate for
a call center (though the connector is not compatible with
Plantronics). They have adapters for both 2.5mm and RJ-8 modular
plugs, so they can be used on any Polycom IP phone with a dedicated
headset jack.

Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like the part numbers we're using.

-James

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-06 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Bill Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The IP330 has a subminiature jack for headset/mic combos.  Are there 
 quality headsets anyone would recommend for in-office use for heavy 
 users with these phones?  Using any wiring path?  I've tried a cell 
 phone earphone/mic, and it sounds OK, but it's flimsy for this
 application.

In our call center (250 agents), we use Panasonic KX-TCA60 headsets, which
I think we get for 7 or 8 bucks apiece, and sell to the agents at cost.

They have covered gooseneck tubes, decent padding on the earpiece, and are
fairly sturdy.  Turnover being what it is, we don't have to replace too 
many of them for breakage.

They have 2.5mm plugs, and really good audio -- I've plugged mine into my
Nextel/RIM BlackBerry 7100i, and called my best friend, who is almost as
picky as I am... his opinion is that it not only sounds better than my 
Plantronics Voyager 510, it sounds better than the mic inside the phone.

My opinion is the converse: receive audio is nice too.

Recommended.

Cheers,
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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-06 Thread Bill Michaelson
Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
In our call center (250 agents), we use Panasonic KX-TCA60 headsets, which
I think we get for 7 or 8 bucks apiece, and sell to the agents at cost.

Thanks for that - they look good, and I found several recommendations for them 
after I got yours and started looking for them.

Further to this, I'm in the client office today and dealing directly with the 
users who are reporters and editors for a periodical and conduct many telephone 
interviews.  They want to use their old recording devices with the new phones, 
but are finding unpleasant audio experiences when they switch them over from 
the Nortel meridians to the Polycom IP330s.  So I'm looking for kit to use here 
as well.  Recommendations most welcome.

And in the case of one user, she is adamant she not be required to use a 
different recording device.  I don't know how to approach this except to try a 
different telephone or mess with Polycom gain settings that the manual advises 
not to touch.  Anybody been down this road - have any wisdom?



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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-06 Thread Michael Graves
Two options worth considering:

1. Use a soft phone that supports call recording. The convenience of
recording directly to the PC might win some converts. X-Lite and
Ebeybeam do this nicely, amongst others.

2. Using the Polycom IP650 which has onboard call recording to a USB
device when the optional software productivity suite is installed. It's
an extra $12/phone. The phones are great! But more costly. Street
prices running around $260 each.

Michael

On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:35:18 -0400, Bill Michaelson wrote:

Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
In our call center (250 agents), we use Panasonic KX-TCA60 headsets, which
I think we get for 7 or 8 bucks apiece, and sell to the agents at cost.

Thanks for that - they look good, and I found several recommendations for them 
after I got yours and started looking for them.

Further to this, I'm in the client office today and dealing directly with the 
users who are reporters and editors for a periodical and conduct many 
telephone interviews.  They want to use their old recording devices with the 
new phones, but are finding unpleasant audio experiences when they switch them 
over from the Nortel meridians to the Polycom IP330s.  So I'm looking for kit 
to use here as well.  Recommendations most welcome.

And in the case of one user, she is adamant she not be required to use a 
different recording device.  I don't know how to approach this except to try a 
different telephone or mess with Polycom gain settings that the manual advises 
not to touch.  Anybody been down this road - have any wisdom?



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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-06 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Bill Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Further to this, I'm in the client office today and dealing directly
 with the users who are reporters and editors for a periodical and
 conduct many telephone interviews.  They want to use their old
 recording devices with the new phones, but are finding unpleasant
 audio experiences when they switch them over from the Nortel meridians
 to the Polycom IP330s.  So I'm looking for kit to use here as well. 
 Recommendations most welcome.

Are you switching from Nortel kit to Asterisk?

Why not set up a user function that starts a recording of the call inside
Asterisk itself and save the results to a Samba share where the users can 
drag them to their desktops?  Or not.

 And in the case of one user, she is adamant she not be required to use
 a different recording device.  I don't know how to approach this
 except to try a different telephone or mess with Polycom gain settings
 that the manual advises not to touch.  Anybody been down this road -
 have any wisdom?

What is she using now?  Some kind of analog recording adapter in the 4p4c
handset cord?

You may need to leave her for last, get a good solution going and prove it out 
with others, and then sell it to her boss and let *him* sell it to her.

Asterisk will do a *much* better job of recording than anything on the 
analog side, I would expect.

Cheers,
-- jra
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[asterisk-users] OT: headsets

2008-10-05 Thread Bill Michaelson
Some users at a new Asterisk installation with Polycom IP330 phones are 
complaining about echo with the amplified headsets they used to use with 
their Nortel phones.  I listened myself, and I here my own voice 
annoyingly loudly, and no headset/phone combination of volume control 
manipulation produces a very good experience.  I've avoided messing with 
the Polycom internal settings for gain.


So I tried a Plantronics M10 device with the phone, and I think it works 
fine.  I'm going to bring this to the client tomorrow.


They've been using the headsets by unplugging the handsets and putting 
the headset box between the handset and the phone.  So I'm also going to 
bring an IP430 phone which has an extra RJ11 jack for a more elegant 
wiring setup and intelligent mode control directly from the phone 
(trying to stroke a fickle user).


This all leads to the general question:

The IP330 has a subminiature jack for headset/mic combos.  Are there 
quality headsets anyone would recommend for in-office use for heavy 
users with these phones?  Using any wiring path?  I've tried a cell 
phone earphone/mic, and it sounds OK, but it's flimsy for this application.





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[Asterisk-Users] OT - Headsets for Cisco 7940/7960

2003-09-03 Thread DUSTIN WILDES
This is Off-Topic for Asterisk, but I wanted to get some feedback on headsets for 
Cisco 7940/7960 phones.
We have about 10-20 people who wants/needs a headset for their phone  was hoping to 
collect some real-world input.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT - Headsets for Cisco 7940/7960

2003-09-03 Thread Erik Anderson
I converted my Cisco 7960 to SIP.  I did not try the headset port because I
was told that Cisco did not enable the headset port for SIP.

Erik

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 This is Off-Topic for Asterisk, but I wanted to get some feedback
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 We have about 10-20 people who wants/needs a headset for their
 phone  was hoping to collect some real-world input.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT - Headsets for Cisco 7940/7960

2003-09-03 Thread James Sizemore
Someone told you wrong.  Works fine, volume is a little low however 
without powered headsets.

Erik Anderson wrote:

I converted my Cisco 7960 to SIP.  I did not try the headset port because I
was told that Cisco did not enable the headset port for SIP.
Erik

 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT - Headsets for Cisco 7940/7960

2003-09-03 Thread DUSTIN WILDES
Thanks for all the great info!!!
That's great about the adapter for existing headsets!!  I have several that went to 
some Nortel phones.



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There are two options that I've used:

1) Build a headset adapter so you can use a cheap computer headset. 
Instructions here: 
http://www.rvs.uni-hannover.de/people/einhorn/headset/index_e.html

2) Buy an adapter: 
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/founderstelecom/dirconcabfor.html

and the a compatible plantronics headset.

Both of these options plug into the back headset jack of the phone. The 
easiest, but not cheapest option is #2. The sound quality was slightly 
better with option #2, but this is probably cause I am not very talented 
with a soldering iron.

- Justin

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, DUSTIN WILDES wrote:

 This is Off-Topic for Asterisk, but I wanted to get some feedback on headsets for 
 Cisco 7940/7960 phones.
 We have about 10-20 people who wants/needs a headset for their phone  was hoping to 
 collect some real-world input.
 
 
 Thanks!!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT - Headsets for Cisco 7940/7960

2003-09-03 Thread John Todd
The headset port on the back of the  Cisco is of marginal use.  There 
are special Plantronics headsets which work in those ports, but 
they're very expensive and not too nice, in my opinion.

Any phone with a normal handset can simply have a headset put 
in-line with it.  The Cisco fits that bill, and I have been using my 
Hello Direct Pro amplifier and headset for several years on different 
phones including the Cisco 79xx series.  They work well, and aren't 
specific to the Cisco and thus can be moved around.

The Cisco handset can be removed entirely, and the phone is smart 
enough to know what's going on with the buttons.  These also work on 
the Grandstream, and pretty much any other standard phone ever made. 
Ignore Cisco's silly headset jack - it's just proprietary gimmick 
to sell headsets (yes, you do lose the little headset button as a 
function - so what?)

http://www.hellodirect.com/catalog/Product.jhtml?CATID=15782PRODID=1

Expensive, but very much worth it.  One of these is the first thing 
I've ordered at the last four companies I've worked with, for myself 
and anyone who works for/with me on the phone.  I can't tell you how 
many help desks I've seen where the whole staff walks around with 
their heads slightly tilted due to muscle fatigue from holding a 
handset with their shoulder...

JT


There are two options that I've used:

1) Build a headset adapter so you can use a cheap computer headset.
Instructions here:
http://www.rvs.uni-hannover.de/people/einhorn/headset/index_e.html
2) Buy an adapter:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/founderstelecom/dirconcabfor.html
and the a compatible plantronics headset.

Both of these options plug into the back headset jack of the phone. The
easiest, but not cheapest option is #2. The sound quality was slightly
better with option #2, but this is probably cause I am not very talented
with a soldering iron.
- Justin

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, DUSTIN WILDES wrote:

 This is Off-Topic for Asterisk, but I wanted to get some feedback 
on headsets for Cisco 7940/7960 phones.
 We have about 10-20 people who wants/needs a headset for their 
phone  was hoping to collect some real-world input.


  Thanks!!
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