Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Then in the hope of stopping searchers following up again: Ssh/telnet to it, log in and type ctrl-z. That gets you a basic CLI. Type '?' for help if you like. Now type lcli and login again when prompted. Now you have a proper CLI with comfortingly IOS-like commands to configure *everything*. Mike On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:44:33PM -0700, Jesse Molina wrote: Digging up an old issue here, so please disregard. I'm making this statement for historical and searches. I own a couple of Linksys SRW series switches. The modern/updated firmwares on multiple models as of this writing are MSIE v6 compatible only. They will not work with Safari, Firefox/Seamonkey, or even MSIE v7. However, Linksys does not make firmware across models or series standard in any way, so one unit might work with one browser, and another mostly-similar unit may not. Please see the Linksys message boards for more info about this issue. It's a fairly well known gripe from Linksys customers. -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.602.323.7608 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ -- Mike JagdisWeb: http://www.eris-associates.co.uk Eris Associates LimitedTel: +44 7780 608 368 Reading, England Fax: +44 118 926 6974 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Digging up an old issue here, so please disregard. I'm making this statement for historical and searches. I own a couple of Linksys SRW series switches. The modern/updated firmwares on multiple models as of this writing are MSIE v6 compatible only. They will not work with Safari, Firefox/Seamonkey, or even MSIE v7. However, Linksys does not make firmware across models or series standard in any way, so one unit might work with one browser, and another mostly-similar unit may not. Please see the Linksys message boards for more info about this issue. It's a fairly well known gripe from Linksys customers. Chris Bagnall wrote: I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces would be pretty similar between the models. Regards, Chris ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- # Jesse Molina # Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Page = [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Cell = 1.602.323.7608 # Web = http://www.opendreams.net/jesse/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
...and now for something completly different In very small situations I've been very happy with this desktop POE switch $69 http://shop1.frys.com/product/4971591 Jim www.sigma-networks.com - Original Message - From: Daniel Hazelbaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 8:06:06 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Chris Bagnall wrote: I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces would be pretty similar between the models. I have not personally tried using FF under Linux with these, though I ran across a number of posts that say it doesn't work. I know FF2 and the latest FF3 don't work under Mac (don't work for the SRW that is) and I know they don't work on Windows. (Linksys' official statement is to use that ietab plugin that embeds IE in a firefox tab). I would expect FF to behave the same as far as what works and doesn't in all 3 environments, but maybe not. I'll install FF3 on my Linux server and try as that would be more convenient than firing up Parallels everytime I need to change a config option in the switch. On Win/Mac it lets you log in but the main menu screen is blank, nothing to click on, just the background template. *shrug* Seeing as we already need more than the 8 ports I think I'll stick to the 24/48 port versions anyway. Regards, Chris Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
This certainly seems better value than single port POE insertors at $40 each. Michael --Original Message Text--- From: Sigma Networks Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:27:28 -0400 (EDT) p { margin: 0; }...and now for something completly different In very small situations I've been very happy with this desktop POE switch $69 http://shop1.frys.com/product/4971591 Jim www.sigma-networks.com - Original Message - From: Daniel Hazelbaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 8:06:06 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Chris Bagnall wrote: I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces would be pretty similar between the models. I have not personally tried using FF under Linux with these, though I ran across a number of posts that say it doesn't work. I know FF2 and the latest FF3 don't work under Mac (don't work for the SRW that is) and I know they don't work on Windows. (Linksys' official statement is to use that ietab plugin that embeds IE in a firefox tab). I would expect FF to behave the same as far as what works and doesn't in all 3 environments, but maybe not. I'll install FF3 on my Linux server and try as that would be more convenient than firing up Parallels everytime I need to change a config option in the switch. On Win/Mac it lets you log in but the main menu screen is blank, nothing to click on, just the background template. *shrug* Seeing as we already need more than the 8 ports I think I'll stick to the 24/48 port versions anyway. Regards, Chris Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves mgravesatmstvp.com http://blog.mgraves.org o713-861-4005 c713-201-1262 sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] skype mjgraves fwd 54245 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. We tried a Linksys SRW208P about 2 years ago but couldn't use it due to the noise from the fans (think jet engines) We settled on the Netgear 16/8 port (8 PoE + 8 non-PoE) switches for the call centre pods, each supporting 5 phones. None have caused problems to date. In the server room, we have Dell PowerConnect 3548P switches which are fully managed driving a mix of phones, access points cameras. They are excellent value, Cisco are way overpriced. regards, Drew -- Drew Gibson Systems Administrator OANDA Corporation www.oanda.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Hi Ken, we are quite satisfied with Linksys SRW248G4P. 48 port PoE, 4 GB uplinks and 2 GBIC slots. VLAN, QoS and all the like is on board. Around US$600 I guess. Only drawback in my opinion is that they are loud like a starting airplane. You definately don't want them next to your desk. ;-) Christian Ken D'Ambrosio schrieb: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Thanks! -Ken ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- victormedia jahnstraße 105 40215 düsseldorf germany fon +49 211 5833434 fax +49 211 5833435 sip [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces would be pretty similar between the models. Regards, Chris ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
On Oct 7, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Chris Bagnall wrote: I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. That's very strange, I've used FF2 and 3 under Linux plenty of times to configure the SRW224P units. I'd have thought the web interfaces would be pretty similar between the models. I have not personally tried using FF under Linux with these, though I ran across a number of posts that say it doesn't work. I know FF2 and the latest FF3 don't work under Mac (don't work for the SRW that is) and I know they don't work on Windows. (Linksys' official statement is to use that ietab plugin that embeds IE in a firefox tab). I would expect FF to behave the same as far as what works and doesn't in all 3 environments, but maybe not. I'll install FF3 on my Linux server and try as that would be more convenient than firing up Parallels everytime I need to change a config option in the switch. On Win/Mac it lets you log in but the main menu screen is blank, nothing to click on, just the background template. *shrug* Seeing as we already need more than the 8 ports I think I'll stick to the 24/48 port versions anyway. Regards, Chris Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Thanks! -Ken ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Linksys SRW248P or something like that... something from linksys anyway are quite capable of all you mentioned... maximum 24 port powered though iirc. Geraint 2008/10/6 Ken D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Thanks! -Ken ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
We've had some bad experiences with Linksys in general (prior to going VOIP) and avoided them. We're running now fully on the NetGear FS728TP switch (24 port 10/100 POE, 4 port 1000 uplink, and 2 slots for fiber modules). Geraint Lee wrote: Linksys SRW248P or something like that... something from linksys anyway are quite capable of all you mentioned... maximum 24 port powered though iirc. Geraint 2008/10/6 Ken D'Ambrosio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Thanks! -Ken ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
We've used Linksys SRW224P units at quite a few places without issue. For a little lower cost, we've also used Netgear FS726 series switches. Personally, I prefer the Linksys ones - they have a serial port for administration rather than relying on you doing it over the LAN (though they have a pretty web interface, too). The pretty web interface is less fussy than the Netgear one (which seems unreliable in non-Internet Exploder browsers). On the other hand, the Netgear is substantially less deep (an issue in some wallmount cabinets) and definitely a lot quieter. Regards, Chris ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
yes, thats the one i mean, 224p, the one i mentioned isn't capable of vlans properly (which was strange, since it said it did)... i never had any problems with them powering phones and cisco access points. 2008/10/6 Chris Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've used Linksys SRW224P units at quite a few places without issue. For a little lower cost, we've also used Netgear FS726 series switches. Personally, I prefer the Linksys ones - they have a serial port for administration rather than relying on you doing it over the LAN (though they have a pretty web interface, too). The pretty web interface is less fussy than the Netgear one (which seems unreliable in non-Internet Exploder browsers). On the other hand, the Netgear is substantially less deep (an issue in some wallmount cabinets) and definitely a lot quieter. Regards, Chris ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
We've been EXTREMELY happy with the HP 5400ZL series chassis switch. Price per port is about 1/3 that of Cisco when it comes to POE. Price is about $100 per port and all ports are 1Gb with POE by default -- you can't get modules that don't have 1Gb and POE. 10Gb uplinks are available with other modules. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken D'Ambrosio Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:03 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Thanks! -Ken ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Your math is correct but the application is incorrect. The OP requested a switch with solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? By that they would be using the VLANS and QoS for separation of Data / Voice. Gb uplinks are very useful in Data applications.. Alex Kindly consider the environment before printing this e-mail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Obviously we don't need 1Gb connections for VOIP :) Phones support pass through to the desktop and VLAN tagging. The need for 1Gb ports comes from wanting to have 1Gb at the desktop. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Most phones support only 100M switching though Unless you run separate cabling for VoIP and data but then you would not need the 1G uplink. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gibbons Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:48 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Obviously we don't need 1Gb connections for VOIP :) Phones support pass through to the desktop and VLAN tagging. The need for 1Gb ports comes from wanting to have 1Gb at the desktop. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Right, it takes some doing to find a 1Gb switching phone though we ended up going with a system based on the Cisco 7941G-GE. This model supports all of the needed features including vlan tagging and 1Gb switching. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Augustyn Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:01 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Most phones support only 100M switching though Unless you run separate cabling for VoIP and data but then you would not need the 1G uplink. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gibbons Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:48 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Obviously we don't need 1Gb connections for VOIP :) Phones support pass through to the desktop and VLAN tagging. The need for 1Gb ports comes from wanting to have 1Gb at the desktop. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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We're using D-Link DES-3028P switches (24 10/100 + 4 gbit). They also have the DES-3052P which is a 48 port version of the switch. We're paying ~$500, I think for the 24 port version from Graybar. -Jon - Original Message - From: David Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 12:04:44 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Right, it takes some doing to find a 1Gb switching phone though we ended up going with a system based on the Cisco 7941G-GE. This model supports all of the needed features including vlan tagging and 1Gb switching. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Augustyn Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:01 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Most phones support only 100M switching though Unless you run separate cabling for VoIP and data but then you would not need the 1G uplink. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gibbons Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:48 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Obviously we don't need 1Gb connections for VOIP :) Phones support pass through to the desktop and VLAN tagging. The need for 1Gb ports comes from wanting to have 1Gb at the desktop. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've been EXTREMELY happy with the HP 5400ZL series chassis switch. Same here. We have 4 of them and they have worked very, very well. I have 25 polycom phones at present doing PoE from them and everything is working great. They are reasonably priced, come with a lifetime warranty and free software updates. (Unlike with Cisco!) Norman Franke Answering Service for Directors, Inc. www.myasd.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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The times they are a changing - or something like that. while gb on phones is not the norm today, it s becoming more so on the higher end flavors and will continue to do so since the life span of your switches will be several years, thinking ahead is a good thing my only concern is having too many poe ports in a single switch, especially if it is a 1U model, running many with 24 ports poe I have had failures after a year or so. And with the new POE+ spec coming this will get even worse. Think adding more fans = more noise to get rid of the additional heat they generate On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:04 PM, David Gibbons wrote: Right, it takes some doing to find a 1Gb switching phone though we ended up going with a system based on the Cisco 7941G-GE. This model supports all of the needed features including vlan tagging and 1Gb switching. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Robert Augustyn Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:01 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Most phones support only 100M switching though Unless you run separate cabling for VoIP and data but then you would not need the 1G uplink. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gibbons Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:48 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? Obviously we don't need 1Gb connections for VOIP :) Phones support pass through to the desktop and VLAN tagging. The need for 1Gb ports comes from wanting to have 1Gb at the desktop. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations? On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. I'm curious as to why you want Gb uplinks on the switches? If we assume 100Kb/sec per phone .. (gross rounding, using 100Kb/sec per phone, rather than ~80 - make the sums easier and builds in a margin) 10 calls per Mb/sec. So for a 24-port switch, 24 phones all talking to 24 extensions off that switch, the max the uplink port is going to be pushing out is 2.4Mb/sec. For 200 extensions, say 9 x 24 port switches, with a single top-level (non PoE switch) switch with the PBX plugged in along side the 9 downlinks, that single PBX link will be carrying 2.4*9 = 22Mb/sec if all phones are in-use at the same time (and the PBX is carrying media) Now you may not want to build the network like that, but it seems that Gb is overkill just for the VoIP side of things. (And with that many extensions, I would suggest keeping all the phones on one set of switches) (Then again, it might not be possible to get big PoE switches without Gb uplinks, so it might be a moot point!) So satisfy my curiosity - why Gb uplinks? Cheers, Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hey, all. We're rolling out VoIP, and I'm wondering about PoE recommendations, as we're going to have to replace our current network equipment. My first inclination would be to just plunk down the cash and do a Cisco system, but I'm relatively certain that would get shot down by finance. Any recommendations for a couple-hundred-port solution with VLANs, PoE, and QoS? Don't care much if it's in a single chassis or not, so long as it has Gbit uplinks. Hi Ken, I am rather impressed with Zyxel ES2024PWR, I've used at least 40 of these this year and not had any problems. I also can't recommend Zyxel's support enough, I had initial concerns about the PoE budget and within a couple of rings, I was through to someone who actually knew the product inside out. Kind Regards, Dave Walker ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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- Singer Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had some bad experiences with Linksys in general (prior to going VOIP) and avoided them. We're running now fully on the NetGear FS728TP switch (24 port 10/100 POE, 4 port 1000 uplink, and 2 slots for fiber modules). While I haven't worked with their PoE, let me say that every piece of NetGear kit I have ever touched is still working, solid as a rock, including the 5 port hub in my bag. :-) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Josef Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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If you happen to be looking for a SMALL poe switch for a home or lab: Think twice before you buy a netgear FS1xxP. While they're great because fanless, I've had 2 Netgear FS116p POE switches, and so far BOTH have developed one or more 'dead' POE ports. The manufacturer has a LIFETIME warranty, but they have an advance-replacement charge, plus you have to pay for your own shipping. $60 so far this year on warranty replacements. According to support there is no 'Second Gen' hardware design to fix the problem so I expect it will happen again. Has anyone else seen this? -Karl ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I've used the smaller ones, I think 8pt with 4pt PoE stuck in drop ceilings and such to power ORiNOCO APs and never had an issue. As for the larger switches I've used Linksys SRW224P. I have a few running for a few years without issues. They have GB uplink but the individual ports are 100M. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Karl Fife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you happen to be looking for a SMALL poe switch for a home or lab: Think twice before you buy a netgear FS1xxP. While they're great because fanless, I've had 2 Netgear FS116p POE switches, and so far BOTH have developed one or more 'dead' POE ports. The manufacturer has a LIFETIME warranty, but they have an advance-replacement charge, plus you have to pay for your own shipping. $60 so far this year on warranty replacements. According to support there is no 'Second Gen' hardware design to fix the problem so I expect it will happen again. Has anyone else seen this? -Karl ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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I've used the smaller ones, I think 8pt with 4pt PoE stuck in drop ceilings and such to power ORiNOCO APs and never had an issue. That's a good data point. We too have an FS108p (like yours) and it has been reliable so far. For us it's only been the FS116p's that have failed. It seems possible that the 16 port version has one or more components that are just 'overdriven' variants of the 8 port version and is therfore being overworked, perhaps leading to failure. It seems especially probable being a fanless design. -Karl ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] PoE switch recommendations?
On Oct 6, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote: As for the larger switches I've used Linksys SRW224P. I have a few running for a few years without issues. They have GB uplink but the individual ports are 100M. I recently purchased a few SRW208P switches. They work fine. If you run Windows. Granted a lot of people run windows instead of Mac or Linux, but be aware (to those looking) that the SRW line of switches REQUIRE Internet Explorer on Windows. The support site says it is recommended, but even the login page does not work properly on anything but IE on Windows. For me, as a Mac user, it is enough to not buy any more of those ever again. On the other side, We have a dozen switches in the SGE2000, SGE2000P and SGE2010P series that all work perfectly and with any browser I have tried. Some may wonder why I would buy a 24/48-port fully gigabit switch. It is because I don't want to have to think, or even keep track, of which port on the wall is PoE and which is Gigabit. I just want to plug it in and work. I want to be able to tell my staff Just plug your phone in and it will work, don't worry about trying to find a power adapter. The extra money is worth not trying to keep track of which is which. The SGE2000 switches we bought before the SGE2000P came down in price (it used to be like 4 times the non-PoE version). Now, at a $220 difference ($880 verses $660) there is no question. Beyond that, they work great. VLAN setup and use is simple. Link Aggregation works perfectly. STP works like a charm (no more running around trying to figure out what idiot patched their wall jack into another wall jack). The ability to transfer the switches configuration to a TFTP server (and HTTP in the 2010 version, 2000 is using old firmware) makes it easy to backup the configuration and restore it to a new switch in the event of complete failure. Daniel ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users