Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-26 Thread Tijl Van den Broeck

I would recommend you try the Escaux pbx.NET free edition for it.
If the environment grows or commercial support is required they can
upgrade or buy support from Escaux without any physical intervention
(it's just a virtual flip switch on their systems). The GUI is
webbased and quite simple.

Apart from the administration on the website GUI, you can do a set
and forget on the box, as it's debian based and can autoupdate
itself.

See 
http://www.escaux.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=71Itemid=233lang=en

(No I do not work for escaux, we've been testing it too here and I
think it provides upgraded value for customers in need of support and
understandable GUI)
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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-26 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

On 2/24/07, shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key requirements
(GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would be a GREAT
distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard Drive IMHO.



shadowym,

 With a little work one could use the Digium GUI and the existing
front end to rc.conf to provide a complete GUI for an AstLinux system
using %100 open source components.  Everything you need except the GUI
itself is already there (PHP, http/https server - even sqlite).  All
you have to do is provide the PHP...

 As Darrick mentioned I have been working with Sangoma to get their
cards supported in AstLinux again.  Look out for the announcement of
AstLinux 0.4.5 and AstLinux 0.5.0, both of which should feature full
Sangoma support (along with Digium cards, of course)!

 Whether or not AstLinux can meet your needs it would be much better
to use something that is OSS/Asterisk based.  Looking at your
requirements, it shouldn't be that hard.

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RE: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-26 Thread shadowym
Thanks for the comments Kristian,

I don't really have the skills to make the Digium GUI work on astlinux but
if it is that natural of a fit I look forward to the day someone does it and
makes it publicly available.  Astlinux + Digium GUI + Sangoma analog card
support would be a magical combination IMHO!

-Original Message-
From: Kristian Kielhofner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 4:13 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware,that
is the question

On 2/24/07, shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key 
 requirements (GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would 
 be a GREAT distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard
Drive IMHO.


shadowym,

  With a little work one could use the Digium GUI and the existing front end
to rc.conf to provide a complete GUI for an AstLinux system using %100 open
source components.  Everything you need except the GUI itself is already
there (PHP, http/https server - even sqlite).  All you have to do is provide
the PHP...

  As Darrick mentioned I have been working with Sangoma to get their cards
supported in AstLinux again.  Look out for the announcement of AstLinux
0.4.5 and AstLinux 0.5.0, both of which should feature full Sangoma support
(along with Digium cards, of course)!

  Whether or not AstLinux can meet your needs it would be much better to use
something that is OSS/Asterisk based.  Looking at your requirements, it
shouldn't be that hard.

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RE: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-26 Thread shadowym
Thanks Tom and everyone else,

Based largely on your comments I decided to just stick with what works.  I
have a site using entry level ATX server hardware that has been solid as a
rock.  I'll just go with that instead of more specialized fanless hardware,
specialized power supply and 2.5 hard drives etc.  Maybe get a second
motherboard as a spare of they go for the ongoing remote support option.  

I'll do some simple things like a put in a standby hard drive with the
production image on it in case the primary drive fails.  The case has hot
swap SATA bays so if the primary drive fails or get's corrupted anyone can
just swap drives and they will be back up just like that.  I'll make remote
offsite backups as well.

Thanks for all the help.

-Original Message-
From: Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware,that
is the question

At 11:53 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote:

Hi there,

Here is my dilema.  I have a new small business customer that wants me 
to put in a VoIP phone system for them.  Based on their requirements, I 
have determined that it needs to be a set it and forget it type of 
thing like a lot of small business proprietary systems.

There is no such thing as set and forget.  Businesses change.  They either
grow or shrink, they don't stand still.  They will add and remove phones.
So they will call you at that time.  Or are you expecting them to shop for
their own phones on Ebay?


At the same time they would like to be able to do minor dial plan 
changes themselves so I have determine that a GUI like FreePBX or 
similar alternative (free or commercial) is appropriate.

We take a different approach.  We don't want a GUI.  We don't want the
limits.  We work with the business to design their dial plan.  Then we write
it.  We do not give them a GUI because we don't want them making changes and
then asking for support.

We sell them a minor service agreement and remote in for any changes.  We
also handle professional voice recording and basic training on phone use.
And we handle backups and service if needed.  Once they understand that we
can do that without a service call, they are quite receptive to the idea.

Conventional PBXs come with service agreements so customers are used to that
but surprised at the low cost from you.


I have some concerns about using Asterisk for this. As much as I am in
support of the whole Asterisk revolution, I just do not feel confident
enough in Asterisk on a Hard Drive as a set it and forget it setup
running
month after month, year after year.  I am hoping someone can convince me
otherwise.

Hard drives are reliable.  But I have similar feelings so we are 
working on a flash solution.  Were running it beta in our office 
right now. It only uses the hard drive for daily voicemail, boots 
from flash and runs from RAM.

I'm concerned about hard drive corruptions/failures, memory
leaks, software bugs etc.

Conventional systems have bugs too.

  I have the budget to buy good quality hardware so
if I was to go with Asterisk I would go industrial grade fanless computer,
power conditioned UPS etc.

You don't really need fanless.  Make it cheap enough that it can 
easily be replaced.  Like a $500 PC.

I am not concerned about the reliability of most
of the hardware.  It's the hard drive and the software that runs on it that
worries me.  I will obviously use a mature stable Asterisk release and the
most stable Linux version which I won't bother naming just to keep the
discussion focussed.

Asterisk is pretty darn stable.


I have other Asterisk installs that went well but they were in environments
where there were IT people around who were prepared to deal with some Linux
administration and I could provide ongoing support for more major things.
That is not the case here.  Some of those sites have been running for
months
untouched, some needed some updates and reboots for various issues.  I
don't
think this customer would look very favorably on me having to come in and
add patches or have to reboot once a month or whatever.

So do it from home.  And how often do you really need to upgrade a 
minimal  read only flash based system with no dev tools running from 
RAM?  Does the latest kernel really matter?

   Their expection is
the same as they would have with any other phone system that mounts on the
wall and just works for years.  I think that is a reasonable expectation.

Agreed.  And if it breaks, you replace it quickly and at a low cost.

I am looking at putting in an Epygi proprietary VoIP system in instead.  It
is mostly hardware based although apparently runs Linux.  It has a GUI, is
supposedly plug and play most of the time, and most importantly, does not
use a Hard Drive.  I have heard good things about them so for arguments
sake, let's assume voice quality, features, and the enduser experience

Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Doug Lytle

Dinesh Nair wrote:



is there a reason why wanpipe stopped working with asterisk ?



My experience from yesterday shows that zaptel.c has been renamed to 
zaptel-base.c.  This prevents the Sangoma Setup script from patching 
zaptel.  The fix (Found by Googling) was to rename every instance of 
zaptel.c to zaptel-base.c in the Setup script.  It can be viewed on 
bugs.digium.com number 9050 which is now closed.


Thanks Andrew!  You saved me hours of hair pulling!

Doug


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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Saturday 24 February 2007 18:53, shadowym wrote:
 Hi there,

 Here is my dilema.  I have a new small business customer that wants me to
 put in a VoIP phone system for them.  Based on their requirements, I have
 determined that it needs to be a set it and forget it type of thing like
 a lot of small business proprietary systems.
I've run Asterisk on Embedded versions of Hardened Gentoo without a harddrive, 
using a CD drive and a compact flash card. It's been running without any 
problems related to the setup for months. 
I've experienced a few problems with NTP servers becoming unavailable and a 
Uclibc bug when creating too many dial files in the spool directory at the 
same time, but apart from that it's rock stable.

I've been running it on cheap Via Epia hardware so hardware problems will 
likely pop up at some time.

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Noah Miller

Agreed.  Monitor yes.But why let the system run.. only to find out it is
going to go down after being up for 100 days?Yes, it should be able to
run continually with no issues, but unfortunately asterisk seems to have
memory leaks.  1.2.6 is the only one we've found that will run and run and
run.


You may explore some other possibilities about stability beyond
asterisk.  The longest running install of asterisk that I have has
been stable and successfully ran the pre-1.0 versions dating from
September 2004 onward, most of the releases in the 1.0.x series, a
couple of versions of CVS-head, and most of the 1.2.x releases.
Across all these releases, I've been fortunate enough to not have come
across any memory leaks.  There have been memory leaks noted in mantis
in various components of asterisk, I just never experienced any.

There were two stability exceptions for this asterisk box: version
1.2.2 (which had a known fatal flaw, but not a memeory leak), and a
version of CVS-head that I ran prior to the release of 1.2.0, and that
problem was really a zaptel issue.

The last time I rebooted that asterisk box, the uptime was listed at
369 days, and I only rebooted because I had migrated to a different OS
to standardize the business on a different flavor of RedHat.

I don't write these things so compete, or to doubt your experiences, I
just want to show readers of this list that it is possible to run
asterisk with a high degree of stability.


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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Darrick Hartman

Dinesh Nair wrote:



On 02/25/07 06:26 Darrick Hartman said the following:
Kristian is working with Sangoma to get wanpipe supported once again 
in Asterisk.  


is there a reason why wanpipe stopped working with asterisk ?


I meant with AstLinux.  Sorry for any confusion.

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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Dinesh Nair



On 02/25/07 22:16 Doug Lytle said the following:
zaptel-base.c.  This prevents the Sangoma Setup script from patching 
zaptel.  The fix (Found by Googling) was to rename every instance of 


ok, the sangoma scripts on freebsd do not patch the zaptel-bsd source in 
any way, so this shouldn't affect those on *BSD.


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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-25 Thread Dinesh Nair



On 02/25/07 22:16 Doug Lytle said the following:
My experience from yesterday shows that zaptel.c has been renamed to 
zaptel-base.c.  This prevents the Sangoma Setup script from patching 
zaptel.  The fix (Found by Googling) was to rename every instance of 


ok, the sangoma scripts on freebsd do not patch the zaptel-bsd source in 
any way, so this shouldn't affect those on *BSD.


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[asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread shadowym

 
Hi there,

Here is my dilema.  I have a new small business customer that wants me to
put in a VoIP phone system for them.  Based on their requirements, I have
determined that it needs to be a set it and forget it type of thing like a
lot of small business proprietary systems.  

At the same time they would like to be able to do minor dial plan changes
themselves so I have determine that a GUI like FreePBX or similar
alternative (free or commercial) is appropriate.

I have some concerns about using Asterisk for this. As much as I am in
support of the whole Asterisk revolution, I just do not feel confident
enough in Asterisk on a Hard Drive as a set it and forget it setup running
month after month, year after year.  I am hoping someone can convince me
otherwise.  I'm concerned about hard drive corruptions/failures, memory
leaks, software bugs etc.  I have the budget to buy good quality hardware so
if I was to go with Asterisk I would go industrial grade fanless computer,
power conditioned UPS etc.  I am not concerned about the reliability of most
of the hardware.  It's the hard drive and the software that runs on it that
worries me.  I will obviously use a mature stable Asterisk release and the
most stable Linux version which I won't bother naming just to keep the
discussion focussed.

I have other Asterisk installs that went well but they were in environments
where there were IT people around who were prepared to deal with some Linux
administration and I could provide ongoing support for more major things.
That is not the case here.  Some of those sites have been running for months
untouched, some needed some updates and reboots for various issues.  I don't
think this customer would look very favorably on me having to come in and
add patches or have to reboot once a month or whatever.  Their expection is
the same as they would have with any other phone system that mounts on the
wall and just works for years.  I think that is a reasonable expectation.

I am looking at putting in an Epygi proprietary VoIP system in instead.  It
is mostly hardware based although apparently runs Linux.  It has a GUI, is
supposedly plug and play most of the time, and most importantly, does not
use a Hard Drive.  I have heard good things about them so for arguments
sake, let's assume voice quality, features, and the enduser experience are
approximately the same as using an Asterisk/Analog FXO Card/hardware echo
cancel solution.  Flexibility, scalability, upgradeability are non-issues
because the requirements are fixed.  The Eqygi will end up costing a few
hundred dollars more but for arguments sake let's assume cost's are
approximately the same.

Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key requirements
(GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would be a GREAT
distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard Drive IMHO.

Anyways, I am hoping I can get enough positive feedback about set it and
forget it experiences to convince me to use Asterisk/FreePBX instead of a
more proprietary VoIP solution.  Either way I will be using the same SIP
phones so that is a non-issue as well.

Basic Requirements are as follows:
Wall Mount
*6 local network SIP extensions
*4 remote SIP extension over ADSL or cable
*4 incoming analog phone lines in a hunt group
*features such as auto attendant, voicemail to email, forward to pager for
after hours emergency etc.  Nothing too special

Any help, advice, experiences etc. would be greatly appreciated. 

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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Darrick Hartman

shadowym wrote:

Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key requirements
(GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would be a GREAT
distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard Drive IMHO.
  
Kristian is working with Sangoma to get wanpipe supported once again in 
Asterisk.  There have been some recent (last few days) changes in svn 
that indicate we are very close to having this working. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Matt

If the harddrive is the only thing you are concerned about... dont' be.

Many proprietary phone systems use hard drives.Toshiba, Samsung, and
Nortel to name a few run some of their features off hard drives.   We had a
Nortell system some years ago that ran the entire ACD system off a hard
disk.   Glad we got rid of that thing before the hard drive died!  That was
always a fear of mine...

Now.. back to your issue.
Setup a crontab to restart asterisk every night.   Use a version of asterisk
you know well (I like 1.2.6) and know is stable.Finally, setup RAID-5 on
the hard drives.  That way if one dies, you can still replace it without
data loss.   You aren't going to suffer corruption of anything, and if
somehow you DO get corruption of a hard disk, I don't see why that couldn't
happen to the flash of a fanless system, or a proprietary system.

What the heck are you doing that you need fanless... and a system that can
never have any maintence, anyway?Even a Nortel or Samsung may need
maintence from time to time.

On 2/24/07, shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi there,

Here is my dilema.  I have a new small business customer that wants me to
put in a VoIP phone system for them.  Based on their requirements, I have
determined that it needs to be a set it and forget it type of thing like
a
lot of small business proprietary systems.

At the same time they would like to be able to do minor dial plan changes
themselves so I have determine that a GUI like FreePBX or similar
alternative (free or commercial) is appropriate.

I have some concerns about using Asterisk for this. As much as I am in
support of the whole Asterisk revolution, I just do not feel confident
enough in Asterisk on a Hard Drive as a set it and forget it setup
running
month after month, year after year.  I am hoping someone can convince me
otherwise.  I'm concerned about hard drive corruptions/failures, memory
leaks, software bugs etc.  I have the budget to buy good quality hardware
so
if I was to go with Asterisk I would go industrial grade fanless computer,
power conditioned UPS etc.  I am not concerned about the reliability of
most
of the hardware.  It's the hard drive and the software that runs on it
that
worries me.  I will obviously use a mature stable Asterisk release and the
most stable Linux version which I won't bother naming just to keep the
discussion focussed.

I have other Asterisk installs that went well but they were in
environments
where there were IT people around who were prepared to deal with some
Linux
administration and I could provide ongoing support for more major things.
That is not the case here.  Some of those sites have been running for
months
untouched, some needed some updates and reboots for various issues.  I
don't
think this customer would look very favorably on me having to come in and
add patches or have to reboot once a month or whatever.  Their expection
is
the same as they would have with any other phone system that mounts on the
wall and just works for years.  I think that is a reasonable
expectation.

I am looking at putting in an Epygi proprietary VoIP system in
instead.  It
is mostly hardware based although apparently runs Linux.  It has a GUI, is
supposedly plug and play most of the time, and most importantly, does not
use a Hard Drive.  I have heard good things about them so for arguments
sake, let's assume voice quality, features, and the enduser experience are
approximately the same as using an Asterisk/Analog FXO Card/hardware echo
cancel solution.  Flexibility, scalability, upgradeability are non-issues
because the requirements are fixed.  The Eqygi will end up costing a few
hundred dollars more but for arguments sake let's assume cost's are
approximately the same.

Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key
requirements
(GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would be a GREAT
distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard Drive IMHO.

Anyways, I am hoping I can get enough positive feedback about set it and
forget it experiences to convince me to use Asterisk/FreePBX instead of a
more proprietary VoIP solution.  Either way I will be using the same SIP
phones so that is a non-issue as well.

Basic Requirements are as follows:
Wall Mount
*6 local network SIP extensions
*4 remote SIP extension over ADSL or cable
*4 incoming analog phone lines in a hunt group
*features such as auto attendant, voicemail to email, forward to pager for
after hours emergency etc.  Nothing too special

Any help, advice, experiences etc. would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Saturday 24 February 2007 6:48 pm, Matt wrote:
 Now.. back to your issue.
 Setup a crontab to restart asterisk every night.   Use a version of

Nonsense.  Set up proper monitoring of system resources (memory is only one 
resource you should be watching) and help the community out if you're 
detecting memory leaks.  restarting every night is bad bad bad.

 asterisk you know well (I like 1.2.6) and know is stable.Finally, setup
 RAID-5 on the hard drives.  That way if one dies, you can still replace it

Again, nonsense.  software RAID1 is more than adequate, but personally I far 
prefer to use CompactFlash.  There's absolutely no reason to have three+ 
drives in small office PBX; Hell I'd be hard-pressed to justify two (RAID1) 
in such an install.

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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Tom

At 11:53 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote:


Hi there,

Here is my dilema.  I have a new small business customer that wants me to
put in a VoIP phone system for them.  Based on their requirements, I have
determined that it needs to be a set it and forget it type of thing like a
lot of small business proprietary systems.


There is no such thing as set and forget.  Businesses change.  They 
either grow or shrink, they don't stand still.  They will add and 
remove phones.  So they will call you at that time.  Or are you 
expecting them to shop for their own phones on Ebay?




At the same time they would like to be able to do minor dial plan changes
themselves so I have determine that a GUI like FreePBX or similar
alternative (free or commercial) is appropriate.


We take a different approach.  We don't want a GUI.  We don't want 
the limits.  We work with the business to design their dial 
plan.  Then we write it.  We do not give them a GUI because we don't 
want them making changes and then asking for support.


We sell them a minor service agreement and remote in for any 
changes.  We also handle professional voice recording and basic 
training on phone use.  And we handle backups and service if 
needed.  Once they understand that we can do that without a service 
call, they are quite receptive to the idea.


Conventional PBXs come with service agreements so customers are used 
to that but surprised at the low cost from you.




I have some concerns about using Asterisk for this. As much as I am in
support of the whole Asterisk revolution, I just do not feel confident
enough in Asterisk on a Hard Drive as a set it and forget it setup running
month after month, year after year.  I am hoping someone can convince me
otherwise.


Hard drives are reliable.  But I have similar feelings so we are 
working on a flash solution.  Were running it beta in our office 
right now. It only uses the hard drive for daily voicemail, boots 
from flash and runs from RAM.



I'm concerned about hard drive corruptions/failures, memory
leaks, software bugs etc.


Conventional systems have bugs too.


 I have the budget to buy good quality hardware so
if I was to go with Asterisk I would go industrial grade fanless computer,
power conditioned UPS etc.


You don't really need fanless.  Make it cheap enough that it can 
easily be replaced.  Like a $500 PC.



I am not concerned about the reliability of most
of the hardware.  It's the hard drive and the software that runs on it that
worries me.  I will obviously use a mature stable Asterisk release and the
most stable Linux version which I won't bother naming just to keep the
discussion focussed.


Asterisk is pretty darn stable.



I have other Asterisk installs that went well but they were in environments
where there were IT people around who were prepared to deal with some Linux
administration and I could provide ongoing support for more major things.
That is not the case here.  Some of those sites have been running for months
untouched, some needed some updates and reboots for various issues.  I don't
think this customer would look very favorably on me having to come in and
add patches or have to reboot once a month or whatever.


So do it from home.  And how often do you really need to upgrade a 
minimal  read only flash based system with no dev tools running from 
RAM?  Does the latest kernel really matter?



  Their expection is
the same as they would have with any other phone system that mounts on the
wall and just works for years.  I think that is a reasonable expectation.


Agreed.  And if it breaks, you replace it quickly and at a low cost.


I am looking at putting in an Epygi proprietary VoIP system in instead.  It
is mostly hardware based although apparently runs Linux.  It has a GUI, is
supposedly plug and play most of the time, and most importantly, does not
use a Hard Drive.  I have heard good things about them so for arguments
sake, let's assume voice quality, features, and the enduser experience are
approximately the same as using an Asterisk/Analog FXO Card/hardware echo
cancel solution.  Flexibility, scalability, upgradeability are non-issues
because the requirements are fixed.  The Eqygi will end up costing a few
hundred dollars more but for arguments sake let's assume cost's are
approximately the same.


Are you selling them service or passing them off to someone 
else?   Who will set up and support Egypi?  If you are servicing them 
then that is one more system that you have to learn, stock and 
support.  If you don't stock it, can they afford to be down for a day 
or longer waiting for a replacement?



Astlinux would work except it does not currently meet some key requirements
(GUI, Sangoma Analog card support).  Otherwise it would be a GREAT
distribution for set it and forget it running without a Hard Drive IMHO.

Anyways, I am hoping I can get enough positive feedback about set it and
forget it experiences to convince me to use Asterisk/FreePBX instead of a

Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Matt

Agreed.  Monitor yes.But why let the system run.. only to find out it is
going to go down after being up for 100 days?Yes, it should be able to
run continually with no issues, but unfortunately asterisk seems to have
memory leaks.  1.2.6 is the only one we've found that will run and run and
run.   Our phone system we don't restart, but our voip switches restart
nightly because we can't have them go down.. so a 'restart when convenient'
once a day is protective.

On 2/24/07, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Saturday 24 February 2007 6:48 pm, Matt wrote:
 Now.. back to your issue.
 Setup a crontab to restart asterisk every night.   Use a version of

Nonsense.  Set up proper monitoring of system resources (memory is only
one
resource you should be watching) and help the community out if you're
detecting memory leaks.  restarting every night is bad bad bad.

 asterisk you know well (I like 1.2.6) and know is stable.Finally,
setup
 RAID-5 on the hard drives.  That way if one dies, you can still replace
it

Again, nonsense.  software RAID1 is more than adequate, but personally I
far
prefer to use CompactFlash.  There's absolutely no reason to have three+
drives in small office PBX; Hell I'd be hard-pressed to justify two
(RAID1)
in such an install.

-A.
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Re: [asterisk-users] To use asterisk or proprietary hardware, that is the question

2007-02-24 Thread Dinesh Nair



On 02/25/07 06:26 Darrick Hartman said the following:
Kristian is working with Sangoma to get wanpipe supported once again in 
Asterisk.  


is there a reason why wanpipe stopped working with asterisk ?

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