Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 00:18, Michael Workman wrote: Well that Make me Note that I will never do Biz with you That is if you personally vouch for Greg I have personally done non-trivial work for Nufone on several occasions and have always been paid promptly. I personally vouch for them, both for Greg Merriweather (possibly spelled wrong) and also for Jeremy McNamara. In fact, pretty much all of my non-Unlimitel LD goes through Nufone with nary a blip. I have no problem giving them my money for services rendered, and they don't seem to have trouble giving me money for the same. I joke around with them on IRC and MSN and at the end of the day everyone's happy. I've done some (minor) work with you as well in the past, and with the dialup provider you work with in southwestern Ontario (I helped start that particular ISP, but am no longer affiliated with them). Seriously, you are looking like a complete fool here. There are proper channels to go through to get money refunded (Paypal has them), and there is always small claims court. Beyond that, you can always contact your local police department or RCMP office in order to get fraud charges laid. Nufone's in Michigan, and Greg in particular I believe is in Windsor. You're in Ontario. This isn't rocket science, and these two countries work very well together, especially if you can figure a way to work the word 'terrorist' into the problem. I get quite fed up with people such as yourself and that other fellow who recently decided he'd post once an hour to this list until he got what he wanted. You guys seem to think that we're poor defenseless list-lurkers and that it is your duty to air your dirty laundry on public mailing lists as some kind of public service announcement. We don't need this kind of traffic, and we certainly do not need your sense of self-importance. I have watched your business grow over the past year or two, and I congratulate you. Obviously you have technical skill and SOMEONE there has business savvy and customer relations know-how. Based on the way you post here, I do not believe that person is you, but that's beside the point. The point is that we have our own troubles that we are working on solving, and if we are curious about a provider, we ask in -biz. We do not need these HEAR YE HEAR YE I GOT IT UP THE ARSE FROM NUFONE, THEY WEREN'T CONSIDERATE ENOUGH TO USE LUBE AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN CALL THE NEXT DAY posts. Please... If you don't like these guys then don't play with them. My 6-year-old daughter knows this much. If you think these guys screwed you then go through the right channels to receive justice. -users is not your personal soapbox, and it's not ever the right channel. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Can we please keep the discussions about carriers, money, jobs, work, etc. off of this list? This is not the place to discuss your experiences with _any_ company, it's a place to talk about Asterisk and using Asterisk. Please move flamewars and similar discussions to some other forum. I agree with you! Which place is in your opinion the right place? As long there is no other place, such messages will always pop up. How about the Asterisk-biz list? W ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Sorry to say but just reading about that company on here, I wouldn't do anything with them. Seems to be a lot of bad feelings towards that company Mark Adams Infinity Marketing Sales And Consulting 1-800-430-1478 Main Ext. 911 216-441-4319 Support 530-579-8856 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:51 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens. On 7/11/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:16 -0400, C F wrote: I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before, how do we know you are saying the truth now? Elaborating on a story isnt changing it, its providing additional details. That is hardly a lie. The fact that he claims he lost $3000 from nufone did not in anyway change, the fact that you assumed something then found out that you were wrong in your assumption does not make him a liar either. But you get an A for effort. In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an accusation that doesn't make sense. Just becuase others will do it for less doesnt mean that he didnt opt for them to do the work. I dont see that as not making sense, there are many lawyers out there that charge a premium for their services when you can get one much cheaper. Yet the expensive ones still get clients. The same is true for virtually every industry and even products. People will buy name brand foods instead of the white label generics even though they might be the same. People buy brand name drugs instead of the generics (which are identical in chemical composition) yet the generics are cheaper. It happens every day in virtually every good and service. As for someone taking the money and not doing the work, that happens all too often as well. As such a claim that it doesnt make sense that someone wanted something for nothing isnt so easily dismissed. NuFone placed a ton of international calls on behalf of a customer, then later they tried to not pay for the service that was provided according to their contract. Why? Because the calls were to a destination that had a high billing rate and NuFone didnt charge enough for the call. They signed the contract to pay for those services, they billed the customer for those calls, yet they didnt want to make good on it (jermey was all too eager to talk about this to forbes and other major publications too, so its Jermeys claim that they didnt want to pay for service provided). As such the something for nothing issue is something NuFone has an admitted history of. That tends to lend credibility to the claim that they did indeed do this, although it doesnt prove it, and the 'doesnt make sense' argument is no better than 'chewbacca'. Again you get an A for effort. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEtEcx+1olxlzQw5cRAvz3AKCOXgz+Zn+EiAYr3Pn3WW3UMZLM9gCeM2Ni eEkyrr7IV3+ESR0JG0sJsIU= =xgdk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
On Jul 11, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: That is easy to calculate: 3,000 US$ times your zip code times the phone number you are calling times 2.9cents/5 seconds divided by the Social Security number of the called party ... Or how does NuFone calculate that? But hey, just look at the log file, hmm, didn't we start here? WHERE ARE THE LOG FILES Thanks for all the encouraging funny answers. I go now to 7-eleven to buy some candies, ... Ask if they have any thorazine while you are there... ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Sounds like class action lawsuit time. Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU GET SCREWED BUY SOME KY JELLY AND ENJOY IT. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald Wiplinger Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:39 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Andrew D Kirch wrote: Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users I'm going to note two more issues I've just found with this post. 1. this is a specifically NON-Commercial list (your post is commercial) Yes, I did not write too much, but one part of the issue is, that NuFone does not answer to technical questions either, but asks for set-up help in IRC. So to see, it is a hint for technical people to take care if they suddenly get an offer for consulting, just when you ask a technical question. 2. you have threatened to post it to further such lists and forums where it is not desired (your post is being made in bulk) I therefore must determine you have posted UCE/UBE and you are a spammer. I strongly disagree with that! places are not only lists! Maybe you are too new on the net to figure out, that there are still other places. Have you tried to Google for Nufone? Than you might find other places too. Again, I just want to have the log files. I do not get answer and that is a fact. If you have good contacts to Jeremy, maybe you can convince him to send the log file. It is that simple. I have set-up a filter for NuFone, and when I have time and catch a message with that trigger word, I will post my thoughts. Thanks for pointing out not to send too many messages. However, to answer to another ones message, . have a nice day! bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0628-2, 2006/07/11 Tested on: 2006/7/12 ¤W¤È 07:29:36 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Ronald Wiplinger (CEO of ELMIT) http://www.elmit.com http://voip.elmit.com http://e-paper.elmit.com Tel. (M) +886.939.775.516 (O) +886.2.2835.7765 (ENUM) or FWD 511208 - I'm a SpamCon Foundation Member, #694, Verify it at http://www.spamcon.org PS: Spam prevention! Our system is protected with a spam prevention program. If you send us an e-mail, our system will send you a confirmation message back. Just reply to this confirmation message please. After receiving this confirmation message, our system will send the hold message (one) and all future messages (after the received confirmation message) to me without asking you again. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Kevin P. Fleming wrote: Can we please keep the discussions about carriers, money, jobs, work, etc. off of this list? This is not the place to discuss your experiences with _any_ company, it's a place to talk about Asterisk and using Asterisk. Please move flamewars and similar discussions to some other forum. I agree with you! Which place is in your opinion the right place? As long there is no other place, such messages will always pop up. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:51 -0400, C F wrote: While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens. He only brought that up after people started questioning it. So I dunno. And lets face it, this is the internet there is really no proof of anything. Screen captures of a webpage? That is easy enough to forge. Invoices? They too are easy enough to forge. I don't think so!!! I guess you never lost your web site (accidentally) a have been than very happy that at least a big portion you could retrieve from the Internet archive!!! It is even funny to see how some web pages have been developed and changed. Even if someone states they had horrible call quality you have no proof, but that is generally accepted that that one person experienced that. And where does that leave you? You have to either take a chance on your own or go with those that you trust and/or whatever is said the most. Call quality changes often and in my experience depends not so often from the VoIP provider, but from the users Internet connection. bye Ronald So since its hard to get any sort of proof you kinda just have to accept that it happened or not and move on. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0628-2, 2006/07/11 Tested on: 2006/7/12 ¤W¤È 09:27:28 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Ronald Wiplinger (CEO of ELMIT) http://www.elmit.com http://voip.elmit.com http://e-paper.elmit.com Tel. (M) +886.939.775.516 (O) +886.2.2835.7765 (ENUM) or FWD 511208 - I'm a SpamCon Foundation Member, #694, Verify it at http://www.spamcon.org PS: Spam prevention! Our system is protected with a spam prevention program. If you send us an e-mail, our system will send you a confirmation message back. Just reply to this confirmation message please. After receiving this confirmation message, our system will send the hold message (one) and all future messages (after the received confirmation message) to me without asking you again. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 06:40 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. no offense but this is hardly the correct forum to be making such requests. If they choose to ignore such a request made in this venue I dont think that anyone will hold it against them (but then some might who knows). You may also try irc.freenode.net and message jerjer if he is on and not idle, you may get a response there. I believe they have a ticket system (although I have heard aweful things about it from others) on their website, and I am fairly sure they have a phone number, possibly even a tollfree so it wont cost you anything to call (and if it does you should look at http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you who will pay you for each minute you call a north american tollfree - yes its a shameless plug :) -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
You should probably go through more official channels... The Better Business Beuaru, for example. Everyone here knows what some people think of NuFone.AlexOn 7/11/06, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear NuFone,Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file andpay back my money!Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone ischeating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company.byeRonald___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --asterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Alex Robar[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Wow, that was productive, either never do that again or I'm invoicing you for the time it took me to read it write a response telling you what a moron you were for posting it in the first place, and then deleting it and making sure that the poor hard drive it was stored on was shot humanely and put out of its misery. In other words take it off-list. This is not the people-who-bitch-about-nufone (for values of nufone that equate to any provider BroadVoice anyone?), or #nufone-sucks on some IRC channel. Quite honestly (and I've noted before) that NuFone seems to have a business model of catering only to clued customers. I am still curious as to the eventual outcome (their long-term survival), but you have aptly demonstrated above why you yourself aren't a customer. Get a clue, grow one, buy one EBay but quit spouting this crap on a help list, for I tell you that there is no help for you and not because NuFone screwed you. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
It only convices me of not doing business with you. One should never resort to such a tactic, unless all other channels including legal didn't help. On 7/11/06, Ronald Wiplinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users I'm going to note two more issues I've just found with this post. 1. this is a specifically NON-Commercial list (your post is commercial) 2. you have threatened to post it to further such lists and forums where it is not desired (your post is being made in bulk) I therefore must determine you have posted UCE/UBE and you are a spammer. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users I'm going to note two more issues I've just found with this post. 1. this is a specifically NON-Commercial list (your post is commercial) Yes, I did not write too much, but one part of the issue is, that NuFone does not answer to technical questions either, but asks for set-up help in IRC. So to see, it is a hint for technical people to take care if they suddenly get an offer for consulting, just when you ask a technical question. 2. you have threatened to post it to further such lists and forums where it is not desired (your post is being made in bulk) I therefore must determine you have posted UCE/UBE and you are a spammer. I strongly disagree with that! places are not only lists! Maybe you are too new on the net to figure out, that there are still other places. Have you tried to Google for Nufone? Than you might find other places too. Again, I just want to have the log files. I do not get answer and that is a fact. If you have good contacts to Jeremy, maybe you can convince him to send the log file. It is that simple. I have set-up a filter for NuFone, and when I have time and catch a message with that trigger word, I will post my thoughts. Thanks for pointing out not to send too many messages. However, to answer to another ones message, . have a nice day! bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0628-2, 2006/07/11 Tested on: 2006/7/12 ¤W¤È 07:29:36 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Ronald Wiplinger (CEO of ELMIT) http://www.elmit.com http://voip.elmit.com http://e-paper.elmit.com Tel. (M) +886.939.775.516 (O) +886.2.2835.7765 (ENUM) or FWD 511208 - I'm a SpamCon Foundation Member, #694, Verify it at http://www.spamcon.org PS: Spam prevention! Our system is protected with a spam prevention program. If you send us an e-mail, our system will send you a confirmation message back. Just reply to this confirmation message please. After receiving this confirmation message, our system will send the hold message (one) and all future messages (after the received confirmation message) to me without asking you again. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU GET SCREWED BUY SOME KY JELLY AND ENJOY IT. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronald Wiplinger Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:39 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Andrew D Kirch wrote: Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users I'm going to note two more issues I've just found with this post. 1. this is a specifically NON-Commercial list (your post is commercial) Yes, I did not write too much, but one part of the issue is, that NuFone does not answer to technical questions either, but asks for set-up help in IRC. So to see, it is a hint for technical people to take care if they suddenly get an offer for consulting, just when you ask a technical question. 2. you have threatened to post it to further such lists and forums where it is not desired (your post is being made in bulk) I therefore must determine you have posted UCE/UBE and you are a spammer. I strongly disagree with that! places are not only lists! Maybe you are too new on the net to figure out, that there are still other places. Have you tried to Google for Nufone? Than you might find other places too. Again, I just want to have the log files. I do not get answer and that is a fact. If you have good contacts to Jeremy, maybe you can convince him to send the log file. It is that simple. I have set-up a filter for NuFone, and when I have time and catch a message with that trigger word, I will post my thoughts. Thanks for pointing out not to send too many messages. However, to answer to another ones message, . have a nice day! bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0628-2, 2006/07/11 Tested on: 2006/7/12 ¤W¤È 07:29:36 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- Ronald Wiplinger (CEO of ELMIT) http://www.elmit.com http://voip.elmit.com http://e-paper.elmit.com Tel. (M) +886.939.775.516 (O) +886.2.2835.7765 (ENUM) or FWD 511208 - I'm a SpamCon Foundation Member, #694, Verify it at http://www.spamcon.org PS: Spam prevention! Our system is protected with a spam prevention program. If you send us an e-mail, our system will send you a confirmation message back. Just reply to this confirmation message please. After receiving this confirmation message, our system will send the hold message (one) and all future messages (after the received confirmation message) to me without asking you again. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Wow, that was productive, either never do that again or I'm invoicing you for the time it took me to read it write a response telling you what a moron you were for posting it in the first place, and then deleting it and making sure that the poor hard drive it was stored on was shot humanely and put out of its misery. In other words take it off-list. This is not the people-who-bitch-about-nufone (for values of nufone that equate to any provider BroadVoice anyone?), Broadvoice was the other one. They sent me a message, sorry our service does not work and charged without a refund my credit card. or #nufone-sucks on some IRC channel. Wow, I did not know that there is such a channel. Than it seems more likely that they do suck !!! hehehehehe Quite honestly (and I've noted before) that NuFone seems to have a business model of catering only to clued customers. I am still curious as to the eventual outcome (their long-term survival), but you have aptly demonstrated above why you yourself aren't a customer. Get a clue, grow one, buy one EBay but quit spouting this crap on a help list, for I tell you that there is no help for you and not because NuFone screwed you. I find it strange, that I was with them a long time, kept silent when they lost all their connectivity and got shot from them afterwards still. Anyway, there a tones of other providers available and many of them who try to help and not just to take your money. I personally believe that the market is over in 3 years and that we should now look for other business. The big players are taking over soon. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
I am not talk about Call Time.. They Screwed me by Me Hiring them to consult on setting up server and they took the money and never did the work -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew That is easy to calculate: 3,000 US$ times your zip code times the phone number you are calling times 2.9cents/5 seconds divided by the Social Security number of the called party ... Or how does NuFone calculate that? But hey, just look at the log file, hmm, didn't we start here? WHERE ARE THE LOG FILES Thanks for all the encouraging funny answers. I go now to 7-eleven to buy some candies, ... bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before, how do we know you are saying the truth now? In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an accusation that doesn't make sense. On 7/11/06, Michael Workman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not talk about Call Time.. They Screwed me by Me Hiring them to consult on setting up server and they took the money and never did the work -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Michael Workman wrote: I am not talk about Call Time.. They Screwed me by Me Hiring them to consult on setting up server and they took the money and never did the work This they tried also with me, but I only answered, that I would like to learn it by myself, bye Ronald -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:16 -0400, C F wrote: I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before, how do we know you are saying the truth now? Elaborating on a story isnt changing it, its providing additional details. That is hardly a lie. The fact that he claims he lost $3000 from nufone did not in anyway change, the fact that you assumed something then found out that you were wrong in your assumption does not make him a liar either. But you get an A for effort. In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an accusation that doesn't make sense. Just becuase others will do it for less doesnt mean that he didnt opt for them to do the work. I dont see that as not making sense, there are many lawyers out there that charge a premium for their services when you can get one much cheaper. Yet the expensive ones still get clients. The same is true for virtually every industry and even products. People will buy name brand foods instead of the white label generics even though they might be the same. People buy brand name drugs instead of the generics (which are identical in chemical composition) yet the generics are cheaper. It happens every day in virtually every good and service. As for someone taking the money and not doing the work, that happens all too often as well. As such a claim that it doesnt make sense that someone wanted something for nothing isnt so easily dismissed. NuFone placed a ton of international calls on behalf of a customer, then later they tried to not pay for the service that was provided according to their contract. Why? Because the calls were to a destination that had a high billing rate and NuFone didnt charge enough for the call. They signed the contract to pay for those services, they billed the customer for those calls, yet they didnt want to make good on it (jermey was all too eager to talk about this to forbes and other major publications too, so its Jermeys claim that they didnt want to pay for service provided). As such the something for nothing issue is something NuFone has an admitted history of. That tends to lend credibility to the claim that they did indeed do this, although it doesnt prove it, and the 'doesnt make sense' argument is no better than 'chewbacca'. Again you get an A for effort. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens. On 7/11/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:16 -0400, C F wrote: I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before, how do we know you are saying the truth now? Elaborating on a story isnt changing it, its providing additional details. That is hardly a lie. The fact that he claims he lost $3000 from nufone did not in anyway change, the fact that you assumed something then found out that you were wrong in your assumption does not make him a liar either. But you get an A for effort. In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an accusation that doesn't make sense. Just becuase others will do it for less doesnt mean that he didnt opt for them to do the work. I dont see that as not making sense, there are many lawyers out there that charge a premium for their services when you can get one much cheaper. Yet the expensive ones still get clients. The same is true for virtually every industry and even products. People will buy name brand foods instead of the white label generics even though they might be the same. People buy brand name drugs instead of the generics (which are identical in chemical composition) yet the generics are cheaper. It happens every day in virtually every good and service. As for someone taking the money and not doing the work, that happens all too often as well. As such a claim that it doesnt make sense that someone wanted something for nothing isnt so easily dismissed. NuFone placed a ton of international calls on behalf of a customer, then later they tried to not pay for the service that was provided according to their contract. Why? Because the calls were to a destination that had a high billing rate and NuFone didnt charge enough for the call. They signed the contract to pay for those services, they billed the customer for those calls, yet they didnt want to make good on it (jermey was all too eager to talk about this to forbes and other major publications too, so its Jermeys claim that they didnt want to pay for service provided). As such the something for nothing issue is something NuFone has an admitted history of. That tends to lend credibility to the claim that they did indeed do this, although it doesnt prove it, and the 'doesnt make sense' argument is no better than 'chewbacca'. Again you get an A for effort. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEtEcx+1olxlzQw5cRAvz3AKCOXgz+Zn+EiAYr3Pn3WW3UMZLM9gCeM2Ni eEkyrr7IV3+ESR0JG0sJsIU= =xgdk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:51 -0400, C F wrote: While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens. He only brought that up after people started questioning it. So I dunno. And lets face it, this is the internet there is really no proof of anything. Screen captures of a webpage? That is easy enough to forge. Invoices? They too are easy enough to forge. Even if someone states they had horrible call quality you have no proof, but that is generally accepted that that one person experienced that. And where does that leave you? You have to either take a chance on your own or go with those that you trust and/or whatever is said the most. So since its hard to get any sort of proof you kinda just have to accept that it happened or not and move on. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of trixter aka Bret McDanel Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:29 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 20:51 -0400, C F wrote: While I don't disagree with you, look at what my point was, just accusing them for such without any documentation doesn't make sens. He only brought that up after people started questioning it. So I dunno. And lets face it, this is the internet there is really no proof of anything. Screen captures of a webpage? That is easy enough to forge. Invoices? They too are easy enough to forge. Even if someone states they had horrible call quality you have no proof, but that is generally accepted that that one person experienced that. And where does that leave you? You have to either take a chance on your own or go with those that you trust and/or whatever is said the most. So since its hard to get any sort of proof you kinda just have to accept that it happened or not and move on. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Michael Workman wrote: I am not talk about Call Time.. They Screwed me by Me Hiring them to consult on setting up server and they took the money and never did the work -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew Aha! this is rational and makes sense, Thanks! Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. How did you pay? - -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community) http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEtFHdS6d5vy0jeVcRAgocAJ4kbQR2CqMubcZDZBbju+w1q4GTxwCfUlax 3O3p8uz8SylNGGmj+vSh3+g= =gGrG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Dear NuFone, Without misunderstanding I ask you again, please send the log file and pay back my money! Not following this request results in the assumption that NuFone is cheating and I will post this info every hour on more Internet places. This should help that other people will not trap into a cheating company. bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users now with the amount of calls that nufone processes/hour|day|wtfever it would be a fairly safe assumption that the logging would be done through a database server such as oracle/mysql/pgsql/etc. Now if that were indeed the case, then that would also lead me to believe that THERE IS NO FUCKING LOG FILE go beat off in a corner and stfu spamming whiner signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
C F wrote: I find this hard to believe, half a truth is a whole lie. First you just say the screwed you out $3k, not saying how, letting everyone assume thru phone service, then you change the story, you lied before, how do we know you are saying the truth now? In any case it doesnt make sense anyhow, why would you pay $3k for just setting up a server, when others here on the list will do it for much less. Also they never did the work? just took the money? thats an accusation that doesn't make sense. On 7/11/06, Michael Workman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not talk about Call Time.. They Screwed me by Me Hiring them to consult on setting up server and they took the money and never did the work -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 So it doesn't mess up the flow of reading. How come? I prefer to reply inline. What do you do instead? No. Do you like top-posting? That aside, he clearly does not state how he was screwed. I questioned it as I felt that it deserved elaboration (if you manage to screw yourself to the tune of 3 grand for a $2.9c/min phone service, I can only ditto his recommendation for KY). I find his answer both rational and reasonable and in no way evasive. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Ronald Wiplinger wrote: Andrew D Kirch wrote: Michael Workman wrote: So Nufone Screwed ya I feel Sorry... W Take your Lumps... Cut Your Losses and Get on with Life Your not the only one Nufone Screwed They Screwed me Out of $3,000.00 How do you figure this at 2.9c/min? Andrew That is easy to calculate: 3,000 US$ times your zip code times the phone number you are calling times 2.9cents/5 seconds divided by the Social Security number of the called party ... Or how does NuFone calculate that? But hey, just look at the log file, hmm, didn't we start here? WHERE ARE THE LOG FILES Thanks for all the encouraging funny answers. I go now to 7-eleven to buy some candies, ... bye Ronald ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users You sir are a candidate for the USENET news.admin.* school of flamewars! Just send me a large box of unmarked non-sequential large bills via US Post and you too can have your very own USENET approved asbestos suit*, and signed copy of How to flame the entire Internet because no one likes you and life isn't fair.. Andrew *not a real asbestos suit, USENET brand asbestos suits do not cause cancer, void in Puerto Rico or where prohibited. PS. Ronald, GET A LIFE. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. I have said on several occasions that I think that Jeremy's a bit of a jerk, and tends to berate the less than clueful. I think I have demonstrated the same attributes tonight (which I make no apology for), HOWEVER, Greg (shido6) is honest. I'd like some further background information on this, as it is perhaps an issue that can be straightened out. (note well the following: I'm a third party with no stake in this and that could really care less but I'll lend a hand if I can.) Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 21:44 -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. I have said on several occasions that I think that Jeremy's a bit of a jerk, and tends to berate the less than clueful. I think I have demonstrated the same attributes tonight (which I make no apology for), HOWEVER, Greg (shido6) is honest. I'd like some further background information on this, as it is perhaps an issue that can be straightened out. (note well the following: I'm a third party with no stake in this and that could really care less but I'll lend a hand if I can.) IIRC about a month or so ago shido6 started asking around on how to set up SER. When did this occur? Perhaps its a recent thing and its not that they never delviered just that they havent yet delivered. There was a post elsewhere, where it seems that someone complained that techsupport is not responding to an email sent, and headers on that email indicated it was sent 20 minutes before the posts to the list. So it may be a similar thing, who knows. Then again if it was something much older it may be a different story. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
Can we please keep the discussions about carriers, money, jobs, work, etc. off of this list? This is not the place to discuss your experiences with _any_ company, it's a place to talk about Asterisk and using Asterisk. Please move flamewars and similar discussions to some other forum. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file
I paid Via Paypal... But they did nothing -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell (NZ) Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. How did you pay? - -- Cheers, Matt Riddell ___ http://www.sineapps.com/news.php (Daily Asterisk News - html) http://freevoip.gedameurope.com (Free Asterisk Voip Community) http://www.sineapps.com/rssfeed.php (Daily Asterisk News - rss) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEtFHdS6d5vy0jeVcRAgocAJ4kbQR2CqMubcZDZBbju+w1q4GTxwCfUlax 3O3p8uz8SylNGGmj+vSh3+g= =gGrG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Michael Workman wrote: I paid Via Paypal... But they did nothing -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell (NZ) Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. How did you pay? - -- Cheers, Matt Riddell I'd personally vouch for Greg, however you may seek remedy via PayPal. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Well that Make me Note that I will never do Biz with you That is if you personally vouch for Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:16 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: I paid Via Paypal... But they did nothing -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell (NZ) Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:35 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Workman wrote: Very Simple. I hired JerJer to Have a SER and Asterisk setup with Acounting... JerJer told me to Talk to Shido6 and he would do it... He told me it Would cost me $3000 and he do it. He demanded the $ first and never did the work. How did you pay? - -- Cheers, Matt Riddell I'd personally vouch for Greg, however you may seek remedy via PayPal. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Michael Workman wrote: Well that Make me Note that I will never do Biz with you That is if you personally vouch for Greg That is up to you, I'll note that there are many (most) who consider my integrity beyond reproach. And I have personally offered to help resolve this situation. You may choose to work with me or not, to what end I don't care, but my offer stands. Good luck, Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Well IF I DO WORK WITH YOU I will Buy some KY Jelly to make it easier on me when you screw me too like Greg... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew D Kirch Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:33 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] NuFone, please send the log file Michael Workman wrote: Well that Make me Note that I will never do Biz with you That is if you personally vouch for Greg That is up to you, I'll note that there are many (most) who consider my integrity beyond reproach. And I have personally offered to help resolve this situation. You may choose to work with me or not, to what end I don't care, but my offer stands. Good luck, Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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After Following this post, I have come to realize... That you may NO LONGER NEED KY!!!. Please take this off the list, the bandwidth consumed by this getting ridiculous. Kevin Fleming (Digium) has already asked for this to be taken off line. Please respect the wishes of those that fund the list. Alex Snip, please stop!!! Well IF I DO WORK WITH YOU I will Buy some KY Jelly to make it easier on me when you screw me too like Greg... Snip. No more ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 00:41 -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: taken off line. Please respect the wishes of those that fund the list. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- easynews? -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Lists.digium.com Whatever deal Digium may have struck with Easynews is not the issue here. Snip. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- easynews? Snip. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Wed, 2006-07-12 at 01:00 -0400, Alexander Lopez wrote: Lists.digium.com yeah easynews provides that. Thanks for being clear. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
