RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread shadowym
That is probably because you did not disable SIP fixup protocol.  When you
set up a PiX correctly it works.  Guaranteed! 

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Don

 

This may not be a solution to your question, but I would like to share that
I’ve been having one way audio issues when connecting point to sight to a
PIX 515E using SIP.  I changed to IAX and this is working perfectly now.  It
was paynless to configure IAX2, so you might want to consider it.

 

Ed

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:25 PM
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Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

 

Hi,
I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will elaborate on
my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it from
softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
--Don 


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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread Brad Sumrall
Pix usually uses NAT,

A quick fix is to simply forward the ports in your NAT statements.

If the pix is new, call Cisco and cheat like I do so often!

 

Brad

 

 

  _  

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Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

 

Don

 

This may not be a solution to your question, but I would like to share that
I’ve been having one way audio issues when connecting point to sight to a
PIX 515E using SIP.  I changed to IAX and this is working perfectly now.  It
was paynless to configure IAX2, so you might want to consider it.

 

Ed

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don E. Wisdom
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:25 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

 

Hi,
I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will elaborate on
my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it from
softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
--Don 

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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread Ed Nuñez
Don

 

This may not be a solution to your question, but I would like to share that
I’ve been having one way audio issues when connecting point to sight to a
PIX 515E using SIP.  I changed to IAX and this is working perfectly now.  It
was paynless to configure IAX2, so you might want to consider it.

 

Ed

 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don E. Wisdom
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:25 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

 

Hi,
I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will elaborate on
my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it from
softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
--Don 

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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread shadowym
Again, is the 1-2 not an urban myth?  Someone correct me if I'm
wrong.

I run about 10 external extensions and limit the ports to 1-10025.  I
just can't see why you would need to open 1 ports to the outside world
unless your going to have 1 simultaneous conversations. 

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On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:04:53PM -0400, Lee Jenkins wrote:
> Noah Miller wrote:

> >SIP:
> >TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf UDP 
> >ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf
> >

Yes. See rtp.conf (at least on your side).

Also, if the firewall understands SIP, it may be smart enough to open the
ports for the relevant RTP ports upon the beginning of a SIP session. So
consider trying not to open any port for RTP.

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RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread shadowym
Yes, we found (at least with Aastra phones) that we had to disable the SIP
fixup protocols on a pix 501.

Here is the whole setup.  
NOTE: I could be wrong but I believe the requirement to open ports
1-2 for remote extensions has become an urban myth.  I don't think
you need to open any more than you have extensions + maybe a few more as a
buffer.  That is what we are doing and haven't had any problems.  I'm no
expert so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Here is the procedure:

start>>>
Firewall/Router configuration:

The following ports needed to be forwarded to the asterisk server for
various remote access

Port 80 (Freepbx web access)
Port 4445 (Flash Operator Panel web access)
Port 4569 (IAX remote phone clients)
Port 5059-5061 (registration and proxy server access, default is 5060)
Port 1-10025 (ports reserved for RTP voice packets for SIP phone
conversations) 
Aastra Phones as external extensions

This assumes the Asterisk server is configured for external extensions and
the extension configuration in asterisk is configured to be used as an
external extension.  Both are described earlier in this guide(sip_nat.conf,
nat=yes).

Reset the phone to factory defaults.  All you need to configure in the phone
are phone number, callerID, authentication name, password, Proxy IP and
Registrar IP.  Leave everything else at default and it should work.  I also
changed registration retry timer and BLF subscription period to 120s.

Special note about Cisco PIX firewall
In order to make Aastra phones work outside a Cisco PIX firewall to the
Asterisk server inside the firewall, we needed to remove fixup protocol sip
5060, and fixup protocol sip udp 5060 which are both enabled by default.

no fixup protocol sip 5060
no fixup protocol sip udp 5060

Special note about extensions over VPN

In order to make extensions work over VPN's we had to add the VPN subnets to
sip_nat.conf to make the phones on the 192.168.2.0 and 192.168.3.0 subnets
work with the Asterisk Server on the 192.168.1.0 subnet.  Here is the whole
sip_nat.conf file

nat=yes 
externip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
localnet=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 
localnet=192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0 # VPN1 to 192.168.1.0 
localnet=192.168.3.0/255.255.255.0 # VPN2 to 192.168.1.0
externrefresh=10

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AFAIK asterisk does't yet suport TCP, it is therefore not necessary to open
TCP 5060. On Cisco PIX you might also need to disalbe SIP fixup

On 4/24/07, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Noah Miller wrote:
> > Hi Don
> >
> >>  I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will
> >> elaborate on
> >> my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
> >> allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The 
> >> pix is where all my servers are colocated and i will need to 
> >> connect thru it from
> >> softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need
help
> >> setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
> >> would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > If you're looking for which ports to open:
> >
> > SIP:
> > TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf UDP 
> > ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf
> >
> > IAX:
> > UDP Port 4569
> >
> >
>
> Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is 
> moderate traffic?
>
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>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Lee
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread Noah Miller

>> Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is
>> moderate traffic?
>
> YEs, you could set rtpstart and rtpend in rtp.conf to whatever. I Have
>
> rtpstart 1
> rtpend 10100
>
> This is about enough for 25 concurrent conversations
>
Nice.  Thanks.


Another way to reduce the number of ports is just to not allow SIP
outside your firewall.  That may not be possible in all situations,
but if you only use IAX on the outside, you'll only have to open UDP
4569.  And, if you're dealing with static addresses, you can limit the
traffic to a small number of IPs.

- Noah
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread Lee Jenkins

Remco Post wrote:

Lee Jenkins wrote:


Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is
moderate traffic?



YEs, you could set rtpstart and rtpend in rtp.conf to whatever. I Have

rtpstart 1
rtpend 10100

This is about enough for 25 concurrent conversations



Nice.  Thanks.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread J. Oquendo

Olivier wrote:
With SIP fixup, would you say usual firewall traversal issues are 
solved so that for instance, you can connect home workers to 
enterprise PBX ?


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No. SIP fixup doesn't always solve the issues. One of the things I've 
noticed with home users is they're almost always behind a router that 
has its own firewall and that firewall is almost never configured 
properly. Create a how to for those workers and if possible, have that 
user isolate their phone to a DMZ if possible. Also depending on your 
internal networking, remember NAT + Certain VoIP phones (Polycom!) = 
headache.


Whenever possible while dealing with Asterisk, I personally try to lock 
down the machine and place it in a DMZ so home workers won't have to 
deal with DMZ's, NAT, and other terms that will leave them like a deer 
in a headlight. This varies according to the client though, since I deal 
with managed PBX's its also easier for me to administrate then it would 
be for me to have to wait for someone on their IT side to punch a hole 
in their network to let me in solely to add an extension or clear 
someone's voicemail. (So... Results may vary).


I've recently had a client who had three or four remote locations with a 
PIX in each location doing VPN's. PIX's fixup did little and I ended up 
having to butcher up rules to get things to work properly.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-25 Thread Olivier

With SIP fixup, would you say usual firewall traversal issues are solved so
that for instance, you can connect home workers to enterprise PBX ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Remco Post
Lee Jenkins wrote:

>>
> 
> Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is
> moderate traffic?
> 

YEs, you could set rtpstart and rtpend in rtp.conf to whatever. I Have

rtpstart 1
rtpend 10100

This is about enough for 25 concurrent conversations

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Yossi Ben Hagai

I second that. the PIX has SIP fixup which allows RTP traffic to pass
dynamically based on SDP information, so you don't need to create a rule for
the RTP range - just allow SIP UDP 5060.

On 4/25/07, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:04:53PM -0400, Lee Jenkins wrote:
> Noah Miller wrote:

> >SIP:
> >TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf
> >UDP ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf
> >

Yes. See rtp.conf (at least on your side).

Also, if the firewall understands SIP, it may be smart enough to open
the ports for the relevant RTP ports upon the beginning of a SIP
session. So consider trying not to open any port for RTP.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:04:53PM -0400, Lee Jenkins wrote:
> Noah Miller wrote:

> >SIP:
> >TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf
> >UDP ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf
> >

Yes. See rtp.conf (at least on your side).

Also, if the firewall understands SIP, it may be smart enough to open
the ports for the relevant RTP ports upon the beginning of a SIP
session. So consider trying not to open any port for RTP.

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread C F

AFAIK asterisk does't yet suport TCP, it is therefore not necessary to
open TCP 5060. On Cisco PIX you might also need to disalbe SIP fixup

On 4/24/07, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Noah Miller wrote:
> Hi Don
>
>>  I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will
>> elaborate on
>> my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
>> allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
>> where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it
>> from
>> softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
>> setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> If you're looking for which ports to open:
>
> SIP:
> TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf
> UDP ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf
>
> IAX:
> UDP Port 4569
>
>

Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is
moderate traffic?

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Warm Regards,

Lee



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Lee Jenkins

Noah Miller wrote:

Hi Don -

 I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will 
elaborate on

my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it 
from

softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
would be greatly appreciated.


If you're looking for which ports to open:

SIP:
TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf
UDP ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf

IAX:
UDP Port 4569




Is it possible to reduce the number of ports to be opened if there is 
moderate traffic?


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Lee



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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & Pix firewalls

2007-04-24 Thread Noah Miller

Hi Don -


 I asked this last week but i didn't get any answer   So i will elaborate on
my question.   I need to setup a pix 515 firewall (running 7.2.2 OS) to
allow sip traffic thru it from a sip phone wherever i may be.  The pix is
where all my servers are colocated and i will need to connect thru it from
softphones / hardphones wherever i happen to be traveling.   I need help
setting up the pix for inbound and outbound sip/iax traffic.   Any help
would be greatly appreciated.


If you're looking for which ports to open:

SIP:
TCP and UDP port 5060 (signalling) - can be changed in sip.conf
UDP ports 1-2 (RTP stream) - can be changed in rtp.conf

IAX:
UDP Port 4569


- Noah
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