Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? Use Disk Utility in OS X to split up your boot partition into two partitions, and you can reformat and install Linux onto the blank partition. This however will make BootCamp very unhappy, so you need to be prepared to do a bit of manual labour. I havent gone this way only because I dont use Linux on raw Apple hardware (until very soon, when I do a Debian install on a Mac Mini with no other OS, as a router). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=186209#p186209 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? Yeah. Although, I havent managed to actually figure out EFI boot though. Say, Ive got a question for all of you: How do I install gentoo/arch-linux/... on my computer when Ive already got windows and Mac OS X already installed? Im not sure how to go about a three way divide. Any suggestions? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=186036#p186036 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? Hmm, what is Efi boot? Ive never heard or seen this before, and I have booted both from external harddrives, SD cards, USB drives and other things on my Mac a lot of times. is that a special Linux thing? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185261#p185261 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? Hi,Efi is extensible something or anothe. Ive never bothered with the abriviations. Anyway, basically what it is is you use mbr in stead of gpt. What that means to an average computer user is that you get unlimited partitions. Like you know, on windows, you get c:, d:, e:, etc? but actually, on mbr, you can only get 4 partitions, essentially three because one partition is taken up by the windows bootloader. But, on gpt, you can build however much partitions you want. And I think gpt has more space for the bootloader as well, though not sure. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185300#p185300 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? The thing with GPT partitions, at least in linux, is you typically have the boot-loader on its own partition, usually about 2M in size. What i have learned getting an arch system up and running from scratch is quite simply, you can put some flavor of linux on anything if you dedicate your efforts to it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185302#p185302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? just for people who dont know what efi means, it means extensible firmware interface. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185348#p185348 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? EFI (Extensible Firmware Interface) is basically the replacement for BIOS, featuring modern runtime services for the operating system, a space for operating systems to dump their loaders into and register, and a new partition table format that allows lots of partitions, and of sizes bigger than 2 TB each. Intel Macs use it, albeit with that special Apple flavour that guarantees incompatibilities with standards-compliant software. UEFI is essentially EFI 2, but Macs only use EFI 1. BootCamp uses BIOS emulation to start and run Windows, even Windows Vista or 7 which natively support EFI, and the hardware profile is different whether or not youre booted into EFI or BIOS; since Apple wanted Windows to install cleanly without extra drivers, one way these are different is that disks are emulated using IDE in BIOS mode instead of being passed through as SATA in EFI mode, so it is to your advantage to use EFI mode whenever possible.Did that answer your question? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185404#p185404 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? I think Ill try Arch-Linux; Gentoo is just litterally a waist of time. (I mean it takes too long to install!) I do like the idea of compiling everything by hand, but doing that for, say, GCC, make, autoconf, automake, gnat, gdc, gccgo, gcj, clang, llvm, bash, sh, and all the other tools that make up a development system would take a minimum of probably 4 to 14 hours. For compiling it during the install, try 19 to 26 hours, which is litterally one day and 2 hours. I dont think I want to wait that long.when you tell me to use the EFI bootloader, do you mean hold down the option key, wait until the boot manager appears, and press right arrow twice? To the left (press left arrow once) is EFIBOOT, and to the right (press the right arrow key twice) is the standard USB/flashdrive boot. Which one should I select? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185070#p185070 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? I think Ill try Arch-Linux; Gentoo is just litterally a waist of time. (I mean it takes too long to install!) I do like the idea of compiling everything by hand, but doing that for, say, GCC, make, autoconf, automake, gnat, gdc, gccgo, gcj, clang, llvm, bash, sh, and all the other tools that make up a development system would take a minimum of probably 4 to 14 hours. For compiling it during the install, try 19 to 26 hours, which is litterally one day and 2 hours. I dont think I want to wait that long.when you tell me to use the EFI bootloader, do you mean hold down the option key, wait until the boot manager appears, and press right arrow twice? To the left (press left arrow once) is EFIBOOT, and to the right (press the right arrow key twice) is the standard USB/flashdrive boot. Which one should I select?Edit: Im using the minimal ISO install (install-amd64-minimal-20140724.iso), released on July 24. Ill try another later snapshot of Gentoo or A rch-Linux later when I get bakc home (Im in Tennessee!) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=185070#p185070 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? @Ethin: CSM mode means BIOS emulation, i.e. not booting from an EFI loader. If you copied the installation onto a flash stick, you might be able to boot using the EFI loader. Alternatively, try holding down the Option key at boot and then choosing the EFI option if its shown. In this way, you load the correct loader, and use the correct tools for partitioning and booting, and most likely get better hardware support on a MacBook with dual-GPUs too.I always use the latest snapshot. If there are problems, they wont be with hardware detection or booting. Hopefully. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=184959#p184959 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? @Sebby, Im not sure what you mean by CSM Boot Mode. Ive nevr heard of it. As for the Debian install, Ive used a stable installer for Debian 7.6. Do I need to use the latest and greatest snapshot? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=184645#p184645 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? Hi all,Im just curious: How do I get Gentoo, Arch-Linux (including talking arch-linux), Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? The only way I can get these distributions to work properly is through a live CD, and when I try Gentoo, or Arch-Linux (including talking arch-linux), they dont work at all. Debians bootloader screen appears, but when I hit S, press tab, type priority=low, and press enter, speakup doesnt work. It doesnt work even if I dont enter priority=low. When I say they dont work, I mean that in the case of Gentoo, text scrolls down the screen endlessly and espeakup doesnt initialize, or in the case of Arch-linux (talking arch-linux), it doesnt initialize at all. It doesnt display a single error message, and I cant check dmesg without it. Here are my system specs. Note: Most of this is windows specific:Host Name: p; ETHIN-PCOS Name: Microsoft Windows 8.1OS Version:6.3.9600 N/A Build 9600OS Manufacturer: Microsoft CorporationOS Configuration: Standalone WorkstationOS Build Type: Multiprocessor FreeRegistered Owner: Windows UserRegistered Organization:Product ID:00259-60301-93605-AA829Original Install Date: 7/6/2014, 10:25:49 PMSystem Boot Time: 8/12/2014, 1:30:15 PMSystem Manufacturer: Apple Inc.System Model: MacBookPro11,1System Type: & nbsp;x64-based PCProcessor(s): 1 Processor(s) Installed. [01]: Intel64 Family 6 Model 69 Stepping 1 GenuineIntel ~768 MhzBIOS Version: Apple Inc. MBP111.88Z.0138.B03.1310291227, 10/29/2013Windows Directory:C:\WINDOWSSystem Directory: C:\WINDOWS\system32Boot Device: \Device\HarddiskVolume4System Locale: en-us;English (United States)Input Locale: en-us;English (United States)Time Zone:(UTC-06:00) Central Time (US Canada)Total Phy sical Memory: 8,101 MBAvailable Physical Memory: 5,953 MBVirtual Memory: Max Size: 9,381 MBVirtual Memory: Available: 6,888 MBVirtual Memory: In Use: 2,493 MBPage File Location(s): C:\pagefile.sysDomain: WORKGROUPLogon Server: \\MicrosoftAccountHotfix(s):41 Hotfix(s) Installed. [01]: KB2899189_Microsoft-Windows-CameraCodec-Package [02]: KB2919355 [03]: KB2919442 bsp;[04]: KB2920189 [05]: KB2926765 [06]: KB2931358 [07]: KB2931366 [08]: KB2937220 [09]: KB2938772 [10]: KB2939087 [11]: KB2939153 [12]: KB2939471 [13]: KB2939576 [14]: KB2949621 [15]: KB2950153 [16]: KB2954879 [17]: KB2955164 [18]: KB2956575 [19]: KB2957189 [20]: KB2958262 p; [21]: KB2959626 [22]: KB2959977 [23]: KB2961072 [24]: KB2962140 [25]: KB2962872 [26]: KB2964718 [27]: KB2964736 [28]: KB2965142 & nbsp; [29]: KB2965500 [30]: KB2965788 [31]: KB2966804 [32]: KB2969817 [33]: KB2971203 [34]: KB2971850 [35]: KB2972094 [36]: KB2972280 [37]: KB2973201 [38]: KB2973351 [39]: KB2974008 [40]: KB2975061 [41]: KB2976978Network Card(s): 3 NIC(s) Installed. [01]: Broadcom 802.11ac Network AdapterConnection Name: Wi-FiDHCP Enabled: Yes DHCP Server: 172.16.1.1IP address(es)[01]: 172.16.1.2[02]: fe80::c083:c3b1:7f35:cddb [02]: VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1Connection Name: VMware Network Adapter VMnet1 DHCP Enabled: NoIP address(es)[01]: 192.168.47.1[02]: fe80::fd77:29fe:8b8:d68 [03]: VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8Connection Name: VMware Network Adapter VMnet8DHCP Enabled: No IP address(es)[01]: 192.168.17.1[02]: fe80::889:b1cb:9329:18d9Hyper-V Requirements: VM Monitor Mode Extensions: Yes Virtualization Enabled In Firmware: No Second Level Address Translation: Yes Data Execution Prevention Available: YesHere is the entire set of system specs; the above onecs were from systeminfo. (The form at of the specs have been modified for easier readability.):System Summary:OS Name: Microsoft Windows 8.1Version: 6.3.9600 Build 9600Other OS Description : Mac OS X 10.9.1 MavricksOS Manufacturer: Microsoft CorporationSystem Name: ETHIN-PCSystem Manufacturer: Apple Inc.System Model: MacBookPro11,1System Type: x64-based PCSystem SKU: UnsupportedProcessor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4258U CPU [ a-t ] 2.40GHz, 2401 Mhz, 2 Co
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro?
Re: Getting Gentoo, Arch-Linux, Debian, etc. working on my Mac Book Pro? If you booted a CD through an external drive, you should be in CSM boot mode and it should just work. However, I will be trying Debian soon so Ill be able to find out whats happening there.Did you try the latest daily debian-installer snapshot? Probably should try that, if youre using a stable installer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=184534#p184534 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
