Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-07-24
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Still waiting for the recordings I requested. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=270013#p270013 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-06-23
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Still waiting on guilevi's bns an eureka a4 versions of there are 7 days. How are they coming? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=265560#p265560 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-05-19
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences @guilevi, how are the recordings (both the system sounds and the bns version of there are 7 days, plus the eureka A4 backing track) coming? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=261034#p261034 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-04-29
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences still waiting on those recordings, guilevi. by the way are you the guy who got jaws to sing those spannish songs? I included that version of cioledo lindo on my tts preschool album, since it's somewhat commin to teach that song in kindergarten, especially as a way of introducing younger students to the Spanish language (similar to "alouette" for French) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=258625#p258625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-04-19
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences @guilevihow are the recordings going? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=257516#p257516 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-03-30
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences how are the recordings going along. do you think the system sounds and the eureka a4 and bns versions of there are 7 days will be ready intime for my birthday on 4/10? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=255530#p255530 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-03-30
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences how re he ecordings going long? do ou think ther ar 7 day and the system ounds will e eady for my birthday n /10? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=255530#p255530 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Hi,I haven't had a chance to set up the Eureka in a while, but yesterday I finally got it booted again. I have been recording the various system sounds and sampling it's music synthesizer, and sometime this weekend I will make that song for you.Does anyone know of any screenreader that supported the A4's talker mode? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=254150#p254150 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-03-19
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences thanks! May I have the system sounds? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=254166#p254166 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I would be interested in the system sounds as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=254289#p254289 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-03-15
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences still waiting for the eurica a4 and bns versions of there are 7 days for inclusion on the tts preschool album. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=253994#p253994 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-18
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences OH, I'd also be interested in a doubletalk version of that song as well, possibly with the tone generator providing a backing track. I know doubletalk can sing because patrick perdue got it to sing a gateway vs aptiva parody of daisy bell (a.k.a the song of hal 9000's funeral).I did mannage to find a youtube video of the eureka a4 in action, mostly demonstrating the word processor, and a cd by the NFB containing related files has also been archived on the internet. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250719#p250719 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-18
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences OH, votrax's sound mode...I guess that explains jeff's version of unterlanders heimwa. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250717#p250717 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-17
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences thanks, could you do a bns version of there are 7 days when you get the chance? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250574#p250574 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I haven't been able to set up the A4 for now, but I will do it this weekend and send it to you. The way Jeff made the BNS sing was by changing the pitch and making it say simple syllables.There is a small chance that we might be able to access the sound mode of the Votrax soon. Pitermach and I both have BNS2000s, and we can record any sample of it you want. I will also be making recordings of all of the other devices I own.The BNS that used the Doubletalk synthesizer was called Scholar and was sold by APH back in the day. This is, of course, the same synthesizer used on the Bookport and Millenium series of the BrailleLite. Like pitermach said, it had a lot of parameters that the Blazie OS did not expose, which you can verify by reading any of the Doubletalk manuals available on the RCSystems website.The RC8650/60 both have the same voice. I actually like it, and I'm looking for someone who is trying to sell a used DoubleTalk. I might also try to find a way to hook up an RC8660 to a single-board computer such as a Raspberry Pi. It has been done before with Arduino. That might also be a way to get speech output from a Raspberry Pi without the audio issues, since the UART is recognized as a serial port I believe.The Votrax SC-02/Artic SSI-263 was used in a bunch of devices, including all the Artic synthesizer models, the Blazie notetakers and Blazer embosser, the Aycom Accent line of synthesizers, the Kentucky pocketBraille, and the GW Micro Speakout. Apparently, Artic made it sound pretty decent, but I have never heard those actually talk. Does anyone have a sample of an Artic synthesizer? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250563#p250563 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-15
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences by the way, I know for certain that the bns could sing, because jeff redousky got it to sing twinkle twinkle little star, and i almost included that version on the tts preschool album, but that was when I was following a "1 recording per song" rule, that I quickly lifted as soon as cae jones did his eloquence songs. speaking of which, could anyone get the bns to sing there are 7 days? I'm still awaiting the eureka a4 backing track. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250394#p250394 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Technically, the RC8650 chip that the DoubleTalk and Millennium note takers used had more configuration options - there was pitch, volume and frequency like with the Votrax SC02/artek SSI263 chip of the older blazie note takers, but it also had more voices, a basic reverb, a built-in speech processor and dictionary as well as a tone generator. The Votrax chip could only accept a command to play one of its phonemes at a specific pitch and amplitude (volume) and not much else. This is why when the millennium note takers were released the basic programs that generate tones would crash as basic was most likely trying to use some very low level assembly to talk to the Votrax to make it beep. Anyway I think I have most of the basic and otherwise Blazie programs and we're working with guilevi on the site, which will probably be where it will end up. If you want recordings of anything, let me know, I can probably make something that sounds quite good. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250392#p250392 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-15
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences the talking dosbox includes this archive. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250388#p250388 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Rather interesting. I used to use a BNS but I didn't know it had a BASIC compiler. I wonder if the BASIC archive can be found on the wayback machine? The Dan Z Games website is archived there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250385#p250385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-15
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I once had a rare version of the bns that had doubletalk. I got it from my computer teacher at perkins school for the blind. I also had access to one of the votrax based versions there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250368#p250368 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I have no problem with doubletalk, but the millenium strayed from Votrax and used doubletalk, and it didn't have nearly as much speech parameters as the Votrax did. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250336#p250336 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-14
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences it was on braillesoft's website. I'd give you a link but I heard a roomer that the site went down and I don't want to take chances and give you a dead link. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250329#p250329 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Maybe I'm strange, but I'd rather listen to the BNS synth over the original Book Port any day. How anyone could actually read a book using that thing is beyond me. I did like its design, though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250313#p250313 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences The only BNS or Braille I had access to was the one that the tennessee school for the blind had. I think you can make the BNS sing, but that is a big if. The only way I can think of doing is via basic and the major draw back there was that had to be under 61000 lines of code. I don't remember the exact number though. You will also need to remember the basic commands that control the synth in the BNS. Add to that, the synth wasn't all that great anyway. LOL. I think I still have the basic programming guide for the braille lite and BNS lining about on hard drive somewhere. Don't remember where though. I did not know that most of the programs for the BNS could run on DOS. Then again, I remember looking into the basic programming stuff at some point and seeing that .BAS source code would run on other systems with vary little change. This is going back to the good old days. If anyone is wondering, yes I can still read the old basic source files for the BNS pl atform. I might be able to through one together if I wanted. Now I wonder where I did put those files I guess I have to weight until I get back to my desktop computer. That should be by the end of this week. Oh yes, don't tell me that someone has a old BNS around that is still in working condition. If they do, they might want to make a recording of one so that thenewer people around know how they sound. Yes, they really do sound bad compare to today's synths. Yes, the double talk, or was that the doublespeak synth that sounds better. Anyway, the first bookport really did sound better than the BNS. Does anyone remembers those devices? LOL. I guess I am straying to far off of this topic. LOL. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250311#p250311 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Is that archive still available? I'd like to take a look at it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250302#p250302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-13
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences high, @guilevi, did you look at the link in the last post?as for old bns programs on other systems, porting between the bns and other old computers should be easy, since bns appears to run on a clone of gwbasic. Most bns programs, like the ones made by bpc programs, will run under ms-dos as is. a few apple 2 programs were also successfully ported to the bns, I saw an archive of old bns software that happened to have a port of origon trail on it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250191#p250191 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I don't own a Eureka A4 unfortunately, and even if I did, I never was good enough with it to get it to sing.My school use to have one and I mostly used it for games and the acasional bit of word processing.Someone else managed to use it as an external synthesizer by going into the communications program and using something in there called talker.That was with the technology back then, no idea if you could do it today.There are better synthesizers out now anyway.I did like the advanced music composer though, it had around 16 instruments. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250016#p250016 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I do still have the A4. I can't make it sing, but I know how to operate the music composer. Sadly I have the A4 standard. I wish I had the Pro, since that apparently had a Yamaha FM sythesizer. That would have been really cool to have. If you can give me a link to the song you want me to do, I can try to make it with the music composer and record it with a patch cable.The talker mode would work perfectly, but I don't actually know what character I have to send to it to make the speech stop. This means that I could theoretically hook it up to a computer and use it with a screenreader, but I wouldn't be able to interrupt the speech, which would suck. One of these days I'll get around to trying all the basic Ascii set when I'm bored. Most synthesizers used a control-x character, the KNG used a Control-C, the Sonobraille used... something weird that I can't remember, but the A4 doesn't respond to them. Does anyone know of any vintage screenrea der that supported the Eureka? I could capture what it sends with the BNS and figure it out that way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250017#p250017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-11
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences @guilevi here is your song I requested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s478ivT … 478ivTjFLA URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250031#p250031 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Great. As soon as I have a good recording software and a decent mic, I'll let you know; the macbook's builtin mic doesn't sound very professional, and I don't know anything about using Garage Band. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250032#p250032 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-11
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences thanks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=250037#p250037 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-10
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences @blindncool, I'd be interested in them. @cool_turk, would you be interested in getting the eureka a4 to sing there are 7 days? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249954#p249954 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-10
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences by the way, my friend syntheritity (a.k.a. ultimate doomer) recently made a soundfont out of the default arl bank on the turtle beach montego2, which was the sb live's largest competitor. ARL banks, according to him, were tecnicly very similar to sf2. I'm using that soundfont with foobar 2000, and the square led sounds rather nice, it sounded like they took it from an old game console and added effects to it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249955#p249955 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences As for old computers, the first computer I remember playing any kind of computer game on was an apple 2EE and now I am posting to this topic on an apple mac book pro fifteen inch. The times has changed a lot. Having my computer portend to be a braille or voice note would be interesting. Then again, maybe having my computer run those BNS and TNS programs that some of us remember would be interesting for old time sake. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249975#p249975 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-10
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I agree with you cw. speaking of bns, would it be possible to get your bns to sing there are 7 days? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249978#p249978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences If I had one, I'd gladly submit some backing tracks. Would you be interested in guitar backing tracks? I might be able to do that. I'm not sure, though; I don't have high quality mics or recording software; still looking for a free recording software for the mac and a *good* microphone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249948#p249948 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences if classic braillenote software could be made to run in an emulator and if you tell it to be a speech synth in the emulator then maybe pyserial and com0com could be used to bridge it and with an NVDA addon we could have keynote speech for NVDA or talking dosbox in windows7 win8 and win10 and maybe even keynote gold speech for NVDA. there are free windows ce emulators available just google search them you'll find them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249732#p249732 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences hey i wonder if you could rip the OS out of your braillenote classic and run it in a windows CE emulator under windows10 or run it in some sort of vm or emulator? then i would at least have my favorite keynote gold voices back. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249729#p249729 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences The Eureka A4 runs CP/M, doesn't it? I don't know much about that OS, except that it was the precursor to DOS. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249571#p249571 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-06
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Oh, the sound chip on this thing is nice! I'd deffinatly take that over the ay-3-8910 chip, or the beeper used for sound effects on the bns. I really want one now.to anyone with a eureka a4, Would you be interested in doing backing tracks for the tts preschool album I'm working on? I don't know if the a4 could sing, but It did have the music composer, so at least there's that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249579#p249579 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences It can sing, not sure how they did it though.But I think it had a limited range.I've only heard it do 2 octives. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249592#p249592 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I actually have the game aliens, but I don't know how it works. The problem is that the eureka that I have is running a version of the software which had Spanish speech, so it's even harder to understand what the damn thing is saying. I never tried too hard though so I might do that before I return it.There is actually an A4 on Ebay right now. Those come up from time to time. The Sonobraille is a different question though, because it was exclusive to Spain. I know people who used to work for the division of the blind organization who made the sonobraile, so I just asked them and they gave one to me. Same for the Ciber232.What I really love about the SB is taht it really is just a DOS computer. you can do damn near anything on that thing. The only issue is that it has a very strange flash memory which keeps losing sectors. I need to see if I can actually replace it with a mechanical hard drive, or reclaim the lost sectors.It also has a pretty obscure but really nice synthesizer, called Audiologic. It was originally Italian but they managed to put pronunciation rules for SPanish on top of it. It has a really weird Italian intonation but it sounds really nice.For those of you who had an A4, maybe you'll recognize this tune here:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5686474/mc.mp3 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249519#p249519 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I was going to get mine off ebay. I was also thinking of building a retro computer running ms dos or windows 95 with an artic215, which was basicly an internal version of the votrax sc02 chip found on the braille n speak. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249385#p249385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Where can I get a Sonobraille or a Eureka? Sounds interesting. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249465#p249465 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Ah the Eureka A4, I remember playing space invaders on that thing, although they called it aliens.It was quite creative how they implemented the ships, using musical notes.you'd have to match the correct notes before firing, for example you're at the far left, which use to be represented with the musical note C, and the ship happened to be at F sharp, so you'd have to find F sharp and shoot.There was no panning back then so you had to be creative with your games.Another game that was similar was missile.The music composer was pretty cool as well, although my musical knowledge wasn't good enough to use it.Cursoring to the note, then telling it what type of note, ETC.I was told composing would take up to a few hours.So yeah, things were certainly different back then.I'd love to see if someone could make an emulator for the Eureka A4, or any of these old machines, so the games could be revived.Even re-writing some of those games, the way it was intended to be played would be cool.I'd definitely play Aliens again.Yeah I know there are space invader type games out there, but they're not like Aliens.Aliens didn't have an ending, you'd play until you got killed.Of course, the game would just keep getting faster. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249469#p249469 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Hi.well while I know this will not be exactly like the real deal if you get coolsoft vertual midi synthand then go to synthfont.com, you can get a lot of fonts.personalcoppy.net has some and there is a server called lisater on synthfont which has a lot of older fonts.As for the sound cards, ask your friend with the sb live to give you the files with sf2 in the extention those should be 4and 8mb soundfonts for the synth.At least for us that want it we can use soundcard music without the actual hardware everything from nokia phones to sound cards, game consoles and made up soundfonts.Some of them can be large though.I have 2gb of soundfonts I pulled from all over the net.Some with fx some without.So far the realtime or almost realtime coolsoft synth is quite good for what it is.I am interested in viewing that page, I doubt I will be able to get any of my old modules running again.I have talking dosbox for games and a few other things to keep the vertual games up but I really wouldn't mind to get and run a lot of old modules.Now if only I could find out how to disassemble my old keynote gold 1850 and put it into something that could fit the synth which I think is still in good condition then I would continue doodling.I need a new hdd and new bits and bobs.Saying that if I could ever get an old keynote gold sa with maybe a 386-486 box 386 maybe then I could try to get my stuff up and running as I still have it.But I am unsure if it works, I have it vertually on my hdd but I don't want to put system stuff on there I am not sure what dosbox will do for that sort of thing with system reboots to optimise memmory etc. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249329#p249329 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Hi,I will be starting a webpage with resources for people wo are interested in getting into this sort of stuff. I already have part of it written and all I have to do is figure out a name for the project and publish it. Of course this will include recordings of all of these devices.Where were you planning to get an Accent SA from? Someone was about to sell me one but they stopped responding to my E-Mails a while ago and I can't get a hold of them anymore for some reason. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249315#p249315 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
2016-02-04
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences I was going to start something similar myself. I was going to get an accent SA, and maybe talk to my friend lisa about borrowing her doubletalk lt, which she has no use for since all her IRQs were taken by other components, especially her beloved sound blaster live! sound card. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249298#p249298 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2016-02-04
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences sorry to double post, but may I have a recording of the eureka A4, before you return it? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249299#p249299 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences [[wow]], I'm glad you made a thread about this. I'm wondering if it might be possible to get a speak and spell anywhere, I'd love one of those, or if you might be able to get one ourself just for the fun of it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249128#p249128 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences My VoiceNote QT can actually be hooked up to a computer and used as a KNG. I've tried it before and I can even use it with NVDA.The Eureka is running a modified version of CP/M 2.2, I'm not sure how much I could mess with it, but since I have to return it I really don't want to break it.The Sonobraille is actually just a DOS machine with custom software on top of it. There is a command to exit to the DOS shell and you can do anything you want, since it has a soundblaster-compatible soundcard and 2 serial ports. I've played some DOS games on it, such as PCS breakout.I'm not sure how much shipping could be and what you would want to trade this for, but it's definitely interesting.USB synthesizers are pretty strange, I'm not sure how well they work as I've never had one myself. I have a PL2303 serial-usb adapter here, and it works perfectly. it emulates a serial port and anything can hook into it. I can use all o f my synthesizers with NVDA or any screenreader of my choice. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249183#p249183 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Hi.gilevy.[[wow]] another guy after my own cpu.I used to like old tech in the day.I actually have an old keynote gold 386 t1850 here but its broken the backs a bit smashed the hard drive is dead, the floppy drive is dead and the battery after it being dropped may be unstable.I did use to enjoy it.I think but don't quote me on that a site winworldpc.com may have a few old oses and drives not all of them have downloads but I think there is cpm in all its glory windows and dos in all its glory drivers, information etc.If you brouse the library of archives there should be files I havn't checked it out fully.I havn't hit much but if you go to wolfenstein3d.com there are archives of a lot of old retros and music sfx etc to.Music for the c64 is at hvsc.dein no big order, pub.keygenmusic.org, amegaremix.com, iimusic.netubiktune.orgto have a fewbrainstorm.untergrund.net.I can't quote all the artests, but a lot of them have bandcamp pages.maxo, disasterpiece, chibitech phlostistan I think to name a few.There is a lot of chip based music round and a lot still being made.modland and modarchive and a project called hornet though thats a lot of doodling through has a lot of old music on those.THe rest I am not sure.I experienced dos 320 where you had to type sit to shut down the system.My earliest experiences were a dos 5.0 toshiba unit.I upgraded this to 6.22, then modified it with quemm and a few other things, norton and random utilities.Later on from 1998-2000 I actually formed a relationship with a friend at highschool that way.Sadly while the unit was really good to game its work potential lagged off and I had to get another unit for that.Sadly from time to time that newer one broke and I had to use the older unit.After I hit windows though a single tasked os just didn't cut it the system was getting old but I had it till 2005 when it finally did die and used it as a good old text gamer.Now if I could only find a keynote gold either external synth or an old keynote gold unit that fully worked I do actually have the disks 6.22, dos 5, wordperfect, a lot of game disks, quemm, norton 8 and I think at any rate old versions of keysoft 1 mastertouch 1 and 2 etc.If I got the hardware I could start again.I am not sure about the condition of the disks and I am not sure if I will be keeping those disks for much longer.People have been saying I should chuck them and to be honest I think later this year when dad retires I will put a big pack of old computers, disks, etc and throw them out.Saying that if you are happy to pay for shipping maybe I could post everything at you.Its not like I will ever use those again!Its sad I know but well thats the way it is.Ofcause if you know where I can find some old working gear that would be fin e.The bad part is as far as I can find out the keynote gold stuff never worked over anything bar a 386 pc and they are almost impossible to get now.I have dosbox I know and thats ok but the real deal is still something I would want.I did try, like heck I did but its not like I can just pick one up now can I.I did have an external but sadly I can't seem to pick up that old tech from local auction sites and mum is threatening me with full room eviction if I start storing junk in here pluss I have no space with all my external hdds, cds, backups and audio, and other bits of modern tech.So I almost need someone that wants to trade for something and wants to trade for something of equal value.Ofcause that person needs to be a retro like me, because most treat it as a pile of crap and I guess its now but I remember sitting reading or playing in the heat, imagining all sorts of things and daydreaming.The problem with modern units, and not just win10 I mean every windows.Is you can't you need to babysit the screenreader so its not as enjoyable as it once was.Then windows itself while secure and nice and safe and happy to follow you where ever you go is not designed for old stuff especially if you try to get it to access hardware directly.If you try to directly load your dectalk into dolphin sam you may realise what that means.If not basically sam goes initialise dectalk.Windows goes ok.load drivers.Windows goes, something is trying to connect to my system and its doing it incorrectly.I have a problem.I won't start.Or I will start wierdly.But if I don't start I need help.I never got round the issue and after reformatting at least 10 times I had to admit defeat.THe keynote golds ran a bit better but sadly with no serial ports hmmm.I did at one stage think of buying a external usb synth but I am not sure what that would work or not.Talking dosbox bypasses all that in a loopy sort of way by emulating a bns and piping it through espeak and a vertual com port.This is the best solution however its not the same as what I had.Another way is to pipe it through your sound card directly but you automatically loose all sound card functionality
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences
Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences On the other hand, it was a kid's learning toy, so kids of that day probably weren't used to the QWERTY keyboard at that age. I know I wasn't. I learned how to type at age eight or nine, and I got a Speak 'n Spell at age six or seven.Regarding Apple II computers, I assume you know of the project I created which people call Mess Apple? It uses the Mess emulator to emulate the Apple IIe hardware, including the Echo speech synthesizer. If you have no experience with the Apple, this would be a good starting point to get your feet wet. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249170#p249170 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences Yep, I know about MESS. It can actually emulate a bunch of systems apart from the Apple.The Apple II was the first system where I actually learned BASIC. Typing in MESS is kind of annoying, but it's still doable. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249172#p249172 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Classic home computers and the blind. Your experiences @Aaron: I don't think it's too hard to get a Speak 'n Spell on Ebay or something like that. I know I've found a few for as little as about $50, which is not too bad for something like this. The problem is that they had an ABC keyboard, not QWERTY. So typing on it is kind of meh. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=249169#p249169 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
