Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion @Dark, too bad there's no such thing for PunDB. I understand that often times there's very few options that are more than bare basic, yet less than overly complicated.@GreenGablesFan, those percents were measured by some study. I can remember the hwen and where. Possibly one of August Dvorak's original studies. It's been over 4 years since I researched this, so I certainly can't remember all my original references. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200866#p200866 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
2015-01-12
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion theo wrote:In qwerty50% of letters are on the top row30% are on homerow20% are on the bottom rowin dvorak20% of letters are on the top row70% of letters are on home row10% of letters are on the bottom row.How did you measure this percentage? I noticed on the QWERTY layout, there were ten letters on the top row, followed by four extra keys. Same applies to the lower rows and to the DVORAK layout as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200816#p200816 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
2015-01-12
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion In qwerty50% of letters are on the top row30% are on homerow20% are on the bottom rowin dvorak20% of letters are on the top row70% of letters are on home row10% of letters are on the bottom row.How did you measure this percentage? I noticed on the QWERTY layout, there were ten letters on the top row, followed by four extra keys. Same applies to the lower rows and to the DVORAK layout as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200816#p200816 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion I've not seen any modules for that sort of thing with PunBB, and as I said usually when I've seen those sorts of reply options they over complicate the layout, as well as having occasions where if say a person responds to 5 different posts there are five posts by the same person in the same topic which can get a trifle clutery. Usually if I am responding to several people I'll just do the at sign and a name eg: @Jack, glad to here about your new job and I hope things go better next time. @Jill, how could you spoil jack's first day on the job by not only falling down but leaving the bucket at the top of the hill? .I can see the advantage in maintaining a more personal conversation, though at the same tie it probably helps that Jill in my above example would also read my comments to Jack and thus maintain a more communi ty driven discussion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200809#p200809 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion hm, that sounds more complicated than what I was thinking. The implementation I'm most accustomed to just has a single option to reply to a single user, then when the post displays, there's a single line showing which post/user is being responded to. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200754#p200754 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion To be honest theo I've seen those sorts of systems with individualized replies and choices of threaded mode or not, but the problem is they cover the board page with so many extra options they make navigating the pages more of a pest, (proboards are particularly bad for these). Plus of course, on this forum single replies are more usual, though quotations are there if you need them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200726#p200726 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Grade 4 would be about the age of 9/10. That was when we had our touch typing lessons, and they told us after 2 years we should be able to type as fast as we write.I was doing the quote thinggy because I often use forums with numerous posts, so if somebody doesn't quote the original context to which they're replying, the person reading it might not remember exactly what they're talking about. So it's just a bit of a habbit for me to do that. It also helps me organise my reply to make sure I reply to every aspect of your post that I want to reply to.As for the 3 consecutive posts by me: I figured my little help manual on SharpKeys would be better organised in a single post, then my reason for splitting posts 12 and 13 in two is because I'm accustomed to forums where each posts shows who is being replied to. Likewise, a notification is only sent to the person who was replied to,, so if I wanted to make sure that both of you knew I had re plied to you, I would need to split it into two different posts. That's just the style I'm used to.Has there ever been talk of having such a feature where by a post could either be specifically a reply to another post, or it could just be a general reply in the thread? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200691#p200691 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion @Theo, What I meant with the Iphone qwerty keyboard was that though it has the qwerty layout, most sighted people as you said won't be touch typing, however Apple used the qwerty layout because for sighted people who simply look at the keys and poke as needed with a couple of fingers the process will be approximately the same. I'm not exactly sure what "grade 4" means (I never get the American grade system), but I've not heard of anyone having touch typing lessons at school at least in Britain. People are expected occasionally to submit typed work, and there are general purpose information technology lessons, but touch typing isn't taught as standard that I've heard.btw using the quote function like that and replying multiple times isn't really necessary on the forum (sinse for one thing having the entire person's hole post out twice is a trifle redundent), just make one post replying to all people, unless you have somethi ng specific to add. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200678#p200678 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Here's my instructions for how to use sharp keys. notes:a) I'm using a version that's 4 years old, so yours might be slightly differentb) a key binding is called that because it "binds" a physical key to a registry function, such as putting a letter, or calling a function like enter, tab, escape etc.0: download and start SharpKeys1: now you are in the list of currently active key reassignments, which should be empty. tab to the add button and activate it.2: Adding a new key binding requires you to do two steps, then clicking the ok button. The two steps are:2.1: Select the physical key. This is the key you your finger will press when you want the given function to be called. There are two ways of selecting this key. The two ways are:2.1.1: scroll through the very long list that should currently have focus, until you select what seems to be a description of the de sired physical key. I'm not entirely sure, but I think this method of selecting the physical key could be problematic if you have some sort of non-standard keyboard or something.2.1.2: tab once to the button that says "select a key". This brings up a diolog where you type the desired key. It is designed such that a sighted user would type the key, then use the mouse button to click the ok button. If you are using a screenreader, and you type the key then tab to the ok button, the diolog box might think the actual key you want is the tab key. Using jaws, I put the jaws curser above the ok button, press my desired key, then click the mouse. Using NVDA, you could either use object navigation to find the ok button, press the key, then hit insert numpad5, or I do believe there's a way to move the mouse to the navigator object so you could click the button.2.2: Now that you've used one of the above two methods to select the physical key, y ou now need to select which function will be called when you press that key. Selecting the function works much like selecting the physical key.2.2.1: tab once to the other button labeled "select a key", and use the method of 2.1.2 to select the key that is currently assigned to the function. For example, If I want my enter key to act like an insert, I would have select the enter key as my physical key, and at this step, I would select the insert key.2.2.2: tab twice to another long list of all possible functions that the key could be bound to, then scroll down until the description of the desired function is selected.2.3: tab to the ok button and activate it.3: repeat step 2 until you've added all the key reassignments you desire.4: tab to the button "write to registry", and activate it.5: tab to the close button, and activate it.6: either log off your windows account then log back in, or restart your computer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200656#p200656 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Green Gables Fan wrote:Is this programme accessible with NVDA's object review?I just tested with my NVDA, and seems to work.Is it good for laptop keys?Yes. It should work for any windows computer. Maybe even windows tablets.I remember someone asking, Hayden I think, about changing the function key Enter to something else, which would act as an insert key. I know NVDA supports caps lock as a modifier but it'd be nice to change the key bindings that way.That would be a possibility. Any physical key can be bound to any function. You could pick a physical key, and have it set such that it causes any given letter to be typed, or have it act as an enter, control, alt, tab, shift, delete key, or one of the function keys (f1-f12), or play/pause, or printscreen, or escape, the list goes on. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200654#p200654 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Dark wrote:Well there are programs to measure typing speed, but also when my brother was applying for a dictation job and took the official test I gave it a try too.Was it an accessible program? The only typing speed programs I've heard of before require reading a paragraph of text while typing it out, which is a bit impracticle for me.That typing teaching however sounds comparatively unusual and not the way things are in Britain, most sighted people I know always type by looking at the keyboard unless they specifically have some sort of secretarial training, indeed touch typing is usually given as a form of training when someone goes for a job that requires it.I haven't paid much attention to where sighties are looking while typing, but I would imagine it would be rather difficult to type proficiently with hands on home row since th e hands would be covering about half the keys. Are you suggesting that most sighties use some form of the hunt and peck method?When were you in grade 4? Perhaps it's agenerational difference.After all, look at how by default Iphones and the like use an on screen qwerty keyboard even though most people will not be touch typing on an Iphone.I'm a bit lost here. I don't feel there's a very good comparison between typing on a regular keyboard and on a phone, which involves the use of just one, maybe two, thumbs.I am fairly sure I could! retrain my muscles, sinse I've learnt similar things in the past, heck whenever you play a new game that isn't a text game you need to learn something of a new keyboard layout, however sinse typing is something I do on a very frequent basis and something I learnt when I was quite young I suspect it'd take a lot of retraining to get there.Before I commited to learning this layout, I did a lot of research. The average secretary, which would be in much the same position as you with all your experience and accustomness to qwerty, took just two weeks to type as fast on dvorak as they could on qwerty, and after a third week, the average secretary was typing faster. I don't think there's any reason why you'd be much different from these people. I know two or even three weeks can sound like a lot of time to learn a new layout, but I've found it's very worth it. typing feels so much more comfortable to me now.To put things in perspective, while typing in english, on averagein qwerty50% of letters are on the top row30% are on homerow20% are on the bottom rowin dvorak20% of letters are on the top row70% of letters are on home row10% of letters are on the bottom rowThis means something like 1/5 of all words can be fully typed entirely on home row. My hand motions feel much more concise, unlike in qwerty where my hands feel like they're jumping all over the place.Actually, someone ought to invent some sort of qwerty to dvorak retraining game, start say with a letter keyboard boppit which gave you the qwerty letter and required you to hit the dvorak one, then some timed dictation tasks, maybe some rythm tasks to give you the bennifits etc.Seems easy enough. If there's demand, I'll create it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200652#p200652 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Dark wrote:Well there are programs to measure typing speed, but also when my brother was applying for a dictation job and took the official test I gave it a try too.Was it an accessible program? The only typing speed programs I've heard of before require reading a paragraph of text while typing it out, which is a bit impracticle for me.That typing teaching however sounds comparatively unusual and not the way things are in Britain, most sighted people I know always type by looking at the keyboard unless they specifically have some sort of secretarial training, indeed touch typing is usually given as a form of training when someone goes for a job that requires it.I haven't paid much attention to where sighties are looking while typing, but I would imagine it would be rather difficult to type proficiently with hands on home row since th e hands would be covering about half the keys. Are you suggesting that most sighties use some form of the hunt and peck method?After all, look at how by default Iphones and the like use an on screen qwerty keyboard even though most people will not be touch typing on an Iphone.I'm a bit lost here. I don't feel there's a very good comparison between typing on a regular keyboard and on a phone, which involves the use of just one, maybe two, thumbs.I am fairly sure I could! retrain my muscles, sinse I've learnt similar things in the past, heck whenever you play a new game that isn't a text game you need to learn something of a new keyboard layout, however sinse typing is something I do on a very frequent basis and something I learnt when I was quite young I suspect it'd take a lot of retraining to get there.Before I commited to learning this layout, I did a lot of research. The average secretary, which would be in much the same position as you with all your experience and accustomness to qwerty, took just two weeks to type as fast on dvorak as they could on qwerty, and after a third week, the average secretary was typing faster. I don't think there's any reason why you'd be much different from these people. I know two or even three weeks can sound like a lot of time to learn a new layout, but I've found it's very worth it. typing feels so much more comfortable to me now.To put things in perspective, while typing in english, on averagein qwerty50% of letters are on the top row30% are on homerow20% are on the bottom rowin dvorak20% of letters are on the top row70% of letters are on home row10% of letters are on the bottom rowThis means something like 1/5 of all words can be fully typed entirely on home row. My hand moti ons feel much more concise, unlike in qwerty where my hands feel like they're jumping all over the place.Actually, someone ought to invent some sort of qwerty to dvorak retraining game, start say with a letter keyboard boppit which gave you the qwerty letter and required you to hit the dvorak one, then some timed dictation tasks, maybe some rythm tasks to give you the bennifits etc.Seems easy enough. If there's demand, I'll create it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200652#p200652 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
2015-01-10
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Is this programme accessible with NVDA's object review? Is it good for laptop keys? I remember someone asking, Hayden I think, about changing the function key Enter to something else, which would act as an insert key. I know NVDA supports caps lock as a modifier but it'd be nice to change the key bindings that way.I like the reference you put up for the Dvorak layout. I might decide to keep it and make a Braille table and whenever I need to refer to it it'd be a lot easier than having to remember. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200649#p200649 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Well there are programs to measure typing speed, but also when my brother was applying for a dictation job and took the official test I gave it a try too. That typing teaching however sounds comparatively unusual and not the way things are in Britain, most sighted people I know always type by looking at the keyboard unless they specifically have some sort of secretarial training, indeed touch typing is usually given as a form of training when someone goes for a job that requires it. After all, look at how by default Iphones and the like use an on screen qwerty keyboard even though most people will not be touch typing on an Iphone.I am fairly sure I could! retrain my muscles, sinse I've learnt similar things in the past, heck whenever you play a new game that isn't a text game you need to learn something of a new keyboard layout, however sinse typing is something I do on a very frequent basis and something I learnt when I was quite young I suspect it'd take a lot of retraining to get there. Actually, someone ought to invent some sort of qwerty to dvorak retraining game, start say with a letter keyboard boppit which gave you the qwerty letter and required you to hit the dvorak one, then some timed dictation tasks, maybe some rythm tasks to give you the bennifits etc. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200573#p200573 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion The problem however is that ceribral retraining usually trumps extra convenience for most people, especially blind people who have learnt to touch type on reflex.As a person who learned to type while sighted, I can say we were also taught to type on reflex. We would be doing typing exercises in class, and if the teacher saw us looking down at the keyboard, he would reach over our sholders, and hit a keystroke to restart the typing software. So if the average sighted qwerty user only needs two weeks to learn dvorak, I wouldn't think it'd be much different for a blind typist, especially considering blind people are generally more accustomed to memorisation.I am usually around 150 wpm, and can push to over 200How do you measure your typing speed? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200568#p200568 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion The problem however is that ceribral retraining usually trumps extra convenience for most people, especially blind people who have learnt to touch type on reflex.As a person who learned to type while sighted, I can say we were also taught to type on reflex. We would be doing typing exercises in class, and if the teacher saw us looking down at the keyboard, he would reach over our sholders, and hit a keystroke to restart the typing software. I am usually around 150 wpm, and can push to over 200How do you measure your typing speed? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200568#p200568 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion I can see the logic behind the dvorak layout, sinse the reasoning for qwerty is true and it is likely not! the most efficient layout in terms of motion. The problem however is that ceribral retraining usually trumps extra convenience for most people, especially blind people who have learnt to touch type on reflex. I am usually around 150 wpm, and can push to over 20, (though accuracy can go at that point). Often I do not even think about what motions I am making, indeed I've been known to have to slow down in order to let the keyboard catch up with me just because I've been touch typing for such a long while. I even once lost my voice and was able to carry on a normal conversation by having supernova read the words I was typingg as conversational responses, which wasn't that much slower than normal talking speed (it was slower, but not by over much). So, while I don't disagree on the logic of dvorak, and while if some one was learning typing it might be better to teach them dvorak than qwerty in the long run, at the same time I'm not convinced for me it would be as helpful sinse likely the inconvenience of brain retraining would be more of a pest than the eventual bennifit of dvorak use. Btw, I wonder if this is because when I was first taught typing, I was 9 and learnt at my specialist school at the rate of two letters per week, on an electric type writer, then when I got my first laptop three years later,I thought it was awsome! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200539#p200539 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Yes, it is to change the purpose of keys. Anytime I press the key labeled Q, my computer thinks I'm pressing the key labeled backspace. I use a program called SharpKeys, which is reasonably easy to use, considering what it does. If you want to change your keybindings, download that then follow the instructions. I did need to use the jaws curser for a bit of it, but that was no big deal. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200487#p200487 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
2015-01-09
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion I didn't know key-binding existed. Whats it's purpose, and is it to customize the keyboard to your liking? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200463#p200463 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Green Gables Fan wrote:I'd be interested to try out this keyboard, although I thought it was written as Dvorak with a K, not a C.for the record, the name comes from the designer, August Dvorak, who was polish in descent, although at the time he was working as a professor at the university of washington (DC?).When I went into the check boxes I saw Dvorak for the left hand, right hand, and just Dvorak.The right and left-handed keyboard layouts were motivated by all the war vets who lost a hand in WW II. They're designed to be optimal for typing with just one hand. I'd definitely suggest the regular dvorak layout. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200422#p200422 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Woe, this might just be my opinion, but I think you tried to teach too many heuristics at once.To a learner, I'd suggest not trying to equate dvorak key positions with qwerty key positions. Just take your time with route memorisation. That's what worked for me, and now I'm significantly more comfortable on dvorak than I am on qwerty.The maker of the dvorak layout, who was working in the days of typewriters, studied hand motions and letter combinations in the english language for 14 years before finalising this keystroke. As a result, there's very few, if any, instances where a single finger would need to press a key on the top row followed by a key on the bottom row, such as typing M U, or M Y in qwerty. There's also very few instances of needing to type any two back-to-back keys with the same finger, such as t r, or e d.Yes, all vowels are on the left side of the home row, and all concenents are on the right side. this means there is a lot of alternating hands: type a key with the left; type a key with the right; type a key with the left; type a key with the right etc. This, combined with the lack of single finger doubletypes, means that as one finger is typing the current key, the next finger can be getting in position to type the next key as soon as the current is fully pressed.On a standard keyboard, the keys are:`1234567890[]',.pyfgcrl/=aoeuidtns-/;qjkxbmwvzexcept I used a program to change some of my key bindings, so on my computer, the key labeled q is actually a backspace, and the key labeled with a semicolon acts as enter. The actual q and semicolons have been moved to more distant locations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200421#p200421 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
2015-01-09
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion I'd be interested to try out this keyboard, although I thought it was written as Dvorak with a K, not a C. When I went into the check boxes I saw Dvorak for the left hand, right hand, and just Dvorak. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200383#p200383 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Hello.AH. in that case would you like me to delete my message so that others who use this system will not read that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200381#p200381 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion If I were you and reading that from a non-Dvorac user, I'd probably feel the same way. I wrote it more for people who already tried it and wanted some tips. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200379#p200379 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion
Re: transitioning from Qwerty to Dvorac keyboard layout discussion Hi.[[wow]]. I could never get used to that layout. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=200377#p200377 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
