Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I could take, end of life for win7 as an example, they really could upgrade all components to stay modern or so, without requiring you to buy a new os if you're not willing to make the step within their timeframe, but I have something way better. Chrismass 2020, is the date upon wich, with some bad luck, you'll be forced to spend cach to play your favourite game. This does not depend on your desire to have a shiny new gaming console, but on being triggered to desire a new console so you can enjoy your form of entertainment. This of course, on condition that, the desired game won't appear on xbox one.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Hmm maybe, but aren't other companies doing the same? Hmmf, microsoft, hmmf, anyone? It's defenately not something any company, including, google, can get out off: they all control our lives, either obviously, or sneakaly... and if I'd had to pick, i'd prefer the obvious way... lol

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

If I were to pick between switching to Android out of my hatred for Apples business practices or sticking with IOS because I can work more effectively, I'll opt to stick with IOS. As Liam said, if we stop using a company's products because we hate what they're doing, we'll never get anything done.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : thetechguy via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@51 um. of course they control your life. Apple even slows down your phone when upgrading to a new IOS so that you will buy the new Iphone. Apple also hates 3rd party repair shops and they really really really hate customer care. and. apple is overpriced.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Liam via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I prefer IOS because of my hearing aids. If i were to boycott every company who did stuff I didn't agree with I'd never get anything done.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cmerry via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

In the end, people will use what works for them. It all depends on who you are, and you're not a bad person just because you don't like a platform or way of doing things. I currently use android, but may end up switching back to ios because of apps like seeing AI, soundscape, RNIB navigater etc I will need to use now I am in 6th form and have to fokus more on my indipendence. That does not and will not change the fact that I love android and strongly dislike apple's business practises, the fact is I think IOS is a platform on which I can be more productive, both at home and at work. This is all coming from someone who spent much of last year slowly buying out of apple's eeco system and is just now starting to regret it.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Using content outside apples control: sure, oPlayer, Dropbox, several other cloud options...my phone, my content. And yes, to each their own in terms of os, but i'm just always wondering why you'd need a wallpaper on whatsapp, a routed phone, jailbreaks... anything really... how big a part is actually "used" and how big a part is just "for showing off you can..."I've jailbroken before, and even though it was sort of fun, after a while I stopped seeing the benifits of it really.To get back to controling life, lets not forget how "controling" google is with forcing you to pay to skip tube adds, having adds based on your email and stuff, and there probably are a lot more privacy related things that personaly would bother me more, then being restricted to what content i can get on my phone. BTW, netflix allows to download movies, spotify allows music to be stored offline, so that "apple" only, would only keep true for apps nowadays, wich isn't per say a bad thing, since the chance of apps with added functionality for darker purposes, might, just pop up less.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@49, yes. But I can install apps via sideloading. And ADB has its own large feature set.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

In that context, it's not, otherwise I can transfer files just fine. I mean, you said yourself "2) I can sideload any app I like." so I believe that is clear enough.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Also, sideloading is transferring files from a local machine to a device with a smartphone, camera, etc.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Both speed and layout are fine, even if somewhat faster on iOS. What I was talking about is the fact it is really hard to productively rely on web navigation by exploring the screen, which is what you were talking about when you said we can explore sites and when I said that it is theoretical. It is hard to do even on iOS, on Android even harder due to the fact there is a bug causing Talkback to announce the page title each time you are outside of the web content or on an element not accessible to TB.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@45, I have browsed the web on my phone before. The speed is fine for me, and so is the layout -- or at least, for some sites. I bitch to my friends about the layouts of some other sites but I'm not going to complain about it and hope that solves anything.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@45, I have browsed the web on my phone before. The speed is fine for me, and so is the layout.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Doesn't know what sideloading is? Okay, we will assume sideloading differs from installing apps outside of play store, or from installing removed apps from play store, and from installing apps from different 3rd party stores, as well as installing any app you want. You certainly did not explore a website by touch on your Android, otherwise you would be wasting a lot of time

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@40, at least this post was at least a reasonable one and not filled with the condescending arrogance of post 41. And no, what I have described is not "theoretically possible". In fact, I've done most of what I've listed several times now on my (now previous) Android Phone -- I've upgraded and haven't done much on my new one quite yet (the Pixel).Yes, let's end this warfest where no one is either right or wrong and we have an iOS fanatic in the way who doesn't really know what "sideloading" is.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@40, at least this post was at least a reasonable one and not filled with the condescending arrogance of post 41. And no, what I have described is not "theoretically possible". In fact, I've done most of what I've listed several times now on my (now previous) Android Phone -- I've upgraded and haven't done much on my new one quite yet (the Pixel).Not even going to reply to 41 -- the shear level of nonsense is astounding in this one. Research.Yes, let's end this warfest where no one is either right or wrong and we have an iOS fanatic in the way who doesn't really know what "sideloading" is.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@40, at least this post was at least a reasonable one and not filled with the condescending arrogance of post 41. And no, what I have described is not "theoretically possible". In fact, I've done most of what I've listed several times now on my (now previous) Android Phone -- I've upgraded and haven't done much on my new one quite yet (the Pixel).Not even going to reply to 41 -- the shear level of nonsense is astounding in this one. Research.Yes, let's end this arfest where no one is either right or wrong and we have an iOS fanatic in the way.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@40, at least this post was at least a reasonable one and not filled with the condescending arrogance of post 41. And no, what I have described is not "theoretically possible". In fact, I've done most of what I've listed several times now on my (now previous) Android Phone -- I've upgraded and haven't done much on my new one quite yet (the Pixel).Now, for 41.No, 1 and 2 are 'not the same'. Installing an app and sideloading an app are two different though related concepts. Installing an app is doing it the "conventional way", i.e.: going through Google Play. Sideloading an app is using ADB to install it the 'unconventional way'.3) Can you? Really? Go download a .zip file then. Does it tell you that it supposedly can't download it? It certainly did the last time I tried that. (It also did that with MP3s too.)5) I'd think that "using an app" and "installing it" are two different things... plus, that does include apps that are considered harmful.6) Do remember that every app is a 3rd-party app if its not made by Apple/Google. So yes, we're still talking about 34d-party apps because those are the apps you use most of the time when not interacting with Google/Apple services.As a side note, Sideloading just generally refers to transferring files from a local computer to a mobile device. Therefore, installing an app from the app or 3rd-party store is (not) sideloading. Stop being so ridiculous and look up what terms I use before you try and rebuff them with nonsense. Either way, this really has just devolved into a screen reader warfest, which really doesn't prove anyone right or wrong.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@40, at least this post was at least a reasonable one and not filled with the condescending arrogance of post 41. And no, what I have described is not "theoretically possible". In fact, I've done most of what I've listed several times now on my (now previous) Android Phone -- I've upgraded and haven't done much on my new one quite yet (the Pixel).Now, for 41.No, 1 and 2 are 'not the same'. Installing an app and sideloading an app are two different though related concepts. Installing an app is doing it the "conventional way", i.e.: going through Google Play. Sideloading an app is using ADB to install it the 'unconventional way'.3) Can you? Really? Go download a .zip file then. Does it tell you that it supposedly can't download it? It certainly did the last time I tried that. (It also did that with MP3s too.)5) I'd think that "using an app" and "installing it" are two different things...6) Do remember that every app is a 3rd-party app if its not made by Apple/Google. So yes, we're still talking about 34d-party apps because those are the apps you use most of the time when not interacting with Google/Apple services.As a side note, Sideloading just generally refers to transferring files from a local computer to a mobile device. Therefore, installing an app from the app or 3rd-party store is (not) sideloading. Stop being so ridiculous and look up what terms I use beofre you try and rebuff them with nonsense.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Now, let's end this. Each OS offers things that the other does not and works based on the user's preference. I shouldn't have posted this topic. Let's end this, shall we?

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

38:What do you mean you have to swipe back up to the top of the screen. Why not just touch the top of the screen to move your focus. Are you swiping to navigate through apps? I think that would be pretty slow.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Isn't 1 and 2 exactly the same? Great to fill numbers isn't it? It's a fact though, but that's exactly the audience iOS targets, people who don't want to care about sideloading, rooting, and anything else. 3. So can I. Safari has a download manager, thanks. 4. Same as 1 and 2, so stop with that. If you cannot come up with anything different, don't write anything. 5. Aren't we done yet? 6. We are still talking about 3rd party apps? 7. Another fact, and if you are that tipe of person indeed you probably don't want to go for an iOS device. Don't you see how ridiculous your points are? You wrote the same thing 5 times. It does not matter whether it is a virus, different app store, removed app, it is all one term, sideloading.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Isn't 1 and 2 exactly the same? Great to fill numbers isn't it? It's a fact though, but that's exactly the audience iOS targets, people who don't want to care about sideloading, rooting, and anything else. 3. So can I. Safari has a download manager, thanks. 4. Same as 1 and 2, so stop with that. If you cannot come up with anything different, don't write anything. 5. Aren't we done yet? 6. We are still talking about 3rd party apps? 7. Another fact, and if you are that tipe of person indeed you probably don't want to go for an iOS device. Don't you see how ridiculous your points are? You wrote the same thing 5 times. It does not matter whether it is a virus, different app store, removed app, it is all one term, sideloading.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Lol Ethin, come on, argument with something you personally do and use and not something that is theoretically possible, even more so on Android than iOS. Who the heck is fully blind and explores a site? Not to mention that there are 100 times more websites than Android and iOS apps together, so a really good point for consistency comparisons isn't it? Honestly I would take Windows out of that too. There is no central place to get apps from, Microsoft store is something that's still very rarely used and it will continue being that way. Now, about updates, both are buggy, Android or iOS. And a bloated screen reader? Nah, I call that a functional and capable screen reader which can switch profiles based on apps I am using, allow me to switch languages with a few gestures, and most important of all, back up and restore all my settings across devices, which is especially important if you customise gestures. That being said, there's nothing stopping you from using a screen reader in the simplest way possible. Bloat is something that would get in your way of being productive. Android is not horrible, it is not inaccessible, nothing of that sort. It's just not there yet. As soon as it is, I'll be the first to switch since as an OS, it allows me to do way more things than iOS. If we take Vo VS Talkback out of this, Android wins.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@34, droid updates depend on the manufacturer. However, if your device is on the OTA update program with Google, you get those updates as soon as they are released, or close to it. Updates can take time though, depending on wehther the manufacturer has to do anything with the update to make it compatible with their device or not and even whether its supported.@35, no, I'm not. I bitch about Apple because I don't like the way they attempt to control every aspect of your life when using their devices. You can't use an app unless they say you can. You can't install an app unless they say you can. They can even remove an app from your phone without your permission for whatever reason. You can't download anything from Safari unless they explicitly say that you can. You can only install apps from the official app store; sorry, no sideloading for you unless you get a custom development version of the OS. You can't do anything that Apple doesn't want you doing without jailbreaking. In contrast, Droids are paradise in certain places:1) I can install any app I please. Android may think its a virus, but I can still run it. Instead of taking the ridiculous level of Paranoia Apple does, Android assumes you know what your doing, which fits me fine.2) I can sideload any app I like.3) I can download anything from my web browser.4) I can install an app from *any* app store available out there.5) I can use any app I want.6) While Google can erase apps that are harmful to my phone, I can still get a hold of it and use it anyway. Android will wine about it, but I can tell it to do it anyway.7) If I've got the proper device, I can take complete control of my phone and do whatever I like with it.So, that's why I bitch about Apple. Its "Do what we tell you to do or get the fuck out and never come back". With Android, its "You should do what we tell you to do, but we'll ultimately leave it up to you." Could Google switch to an Apple-ish model? Certainly. Will they? Very unlikely.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

With Droid, when they release updates, at least its not a buggy piece of crap. Droid, for example is easier to use. Look at whatsapp. This is a blind community, but this bugged me with my iPhone: There is no way to change the wallpaper in IOS whatsapp. And droid's whatsapps is easier. I could just swipe left or right to switch between the tabs, but with IOS, i have to swipe back to the top of the screen. And, there is nothing wrong with google voices.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Also, VA is quickly catching up. The only really big thing I noticed with apple, is, navigating the internet with VO is easier. Youtube, on my Samsung is easier. Settings, is easier. Closing adds, is easier. Everything about Droid is easier. People like to talk down to droid to much.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

With Droid, when they release updates, at least its not a buggy piece of crap. Droid, for example is easier to use. Look at whatsapp. This is a blind community, but this bugged me with my iPhone: There is no way to change the wallpaper in IOS whatsapp. And droid's whatsapps is easier. I could just swipe left or right to switch between the tabs, but with IOS, i have to swipe back to the top of the screen. And, there is nothing wrong with google voices.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Ethin wrote:@31, OK, its a nice thing in iOS and its something that should be used in Android. But its not and there's not much you can do about that. And the Website thing is relevant since you do explore them on your phone, so... again, why aren't you bitching about that?I just really wish those who hated Android for one or more reasons wouldn't bitch about it and then say, "Oh, look at what Apple has! Apple is god!" Or, at least, give off that impression. If a program with 10 features is released and then another with 1 features, that one with 1 features isn't necessarily better than the one with 10 features. The one with 1 would be better in terms of how many features it has, but it wouldn't be better overall because it would be more complicated in terms of utilizing even half of those features; a program is classified as being better than another based on far more factors than just how much it can do over something else. We can say that VO is better than TB because it has a lot of features that TB doesn't have, but that does not mean that VO is therefore a far better option. People may deal with TB ad what it doesn't have for the simplicity it has, for example. Sure it may not have all the features that VO has, but that person may not need, or ever even use, all of the features that VO has.But aren't you more or less doing the same with not liking apple, and standing on droids side for things? Just my observation, ...

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Ethin wrote:@26, you do know that on every phone I've had at least there is a back and home button at the bottom of the screen, right? And that the back button does an equivalent function to that to 'Navigate Up' / 'Back' on iOS?OK, I've pretty much gotten that your married to all things Apple. But there's no need to compare Apple and Google or VO and TB with some kind of superiority complex. Something that has more features than something else does (not) make it better than its alternatives. It just makes it more bloated. Plus, there are more screen readers on Android and all of you guys who are a bunch of Apple fanboys seem to be (forgetting) that. Very deliberately too. How convenient for you... except not.Yes, more screen readers, but extra come with a price tag, and contact access or what not... You have fun with your extra screenreaders...In all seriousness, everything depends on what you expect and or want from your phone, and wich works best for you. individual tastes aren't a point of discussion, they just are... Personally I'm sticking with apple simply because I know the ins and outs for what I need my phone, and I've seen droids make things way more complicated than they have to be, whatsapp being a good example, not to mention loudspeaker linked to phone to ear distance... etc...etc... And don't get me started on google voices, goose bumps all over the place in a cringy way...One more thing before I post, but how's droid in terms of device updates, how fast and regular are those delivered, and for how long?

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

It seems like the  Op  really has just an issue with app design

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@31, OK, its a nice thing in iOS and its something that should be used in Android. But its not and there's not much you can do about that. And the Website thing is relevant since you do explore them on your phone, so... again, why aren't you bitching about that?I just really wish those who hated Android for one or more reasons wouldn't bitch about it and then say, "Oh, look at what Apple has! Apple is god!" Or, at least, give off that impression. If a program with 10 features is released and then another with 1 features, that one with 1 features isn't necessarily better than the one with 10 features. The one with 1 would be better in terms of how many features it has, but it wouldn't be better overall because it would be more complicated in terms of utilizing even half of those features; a program is classified as being better than another based on far more factors than just how much it can do over something else. We can say that VO is better than TB because it has a lot of features that TB doesn't have, but that does not mean that VO is therefore a far better option. People may deal with TB ad what it doesn't have for the simplicity it has, for example. Sure it may not have all the features that VO has, but that person may not need, or ever even use, all of the features that VO has.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@31, OK, its a nice thing in iOS and its something that should be used in Android. But its not and there's not much you can do about that. And the Website thing is relevant since you do explore them on your phone, so... again, why aren't you bitching about that?I just really wish those who hated Android for one or more reasons wouldn't bitch about it and then say, "Oh, look at what Apple has! Apple is god!" Or, at least, give off that impression. If a program with 10 features is released and then another with 1 features, that one with 1 features isn't necessarily better than the one with 10 features. The one with 1 would be better in terms of how many features it has, but it wouldn't be better overall because it would be more complicated in terms of utilizing even half of those features; a program is classified as being better than another baed on far more factors than just how much it can do over something else.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I don't think Apple requires developers to design an app in a certain way, they just choose to be consistent. Websites and Windows are not relevant for us, because I don't explore the screen on my Windows PC so I could not care less about the layout and whether it is consistent or not. Again, I do have to say I don't hate Android because of this, I am just saying it is a nice thing in iOS.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@29, its not a part of app design, true. But it does perform an equivalent function when its available. When its not, its usually because the app is in full-screen mode. I don't know why developers choose to be inconsistent; that's like asking me why every app on Windows doesn't use the same layout, with the same controls. Google doesn't have a policy over here (https://play.google.com/about/developer … licy-print) that explicitly governs application layout, whereas Apple, I think, does (I haven't reviewed Apples guidelines in a while). App inconcistency is a good thing, on one hand, because it allows developers to be free-form, but it can also be a bad thing. Either way, I'm not going to bitch and complain all night about something like that -- something that can be quite insignificant. You visit websites all the time that don't share any kind of consistency; why aren't you bitching about those too?Plus, My reasons for hating Apple have nothing to do with the screen reader or layotu of applications but instead have much to do with their business practices.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@29, its not a part of app design, true. But it does perform an equivalent function when its available. When its not, its usually because the app is in full-screen mode. I don't know why developers choose to be inconsistent; that's like asking me why every app on Windows doesn't use the same layout, with the same controls. Google doesn't have a policy over here (https://play.google.com/about/developer … licy-print) that explicitly governs application layout, whereas Apple, I think, does (I haven't reviewed Apples guidelines in a while). App inconcistency is a good thing, on one hand, because it allows developers to be free-form, but it can also be a bad thing. Either way, I'm not going to bitch and complain all night about something like that -- something that can be quite insignificant. You visit websites all the time that don't share any kind of consistency; why aren't you bitching about those too?

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@26, you do know that on every phone I've had at least there is a back and home button at the bottom of the screen, right? And that the back button does an equivalent function to that to 'Navigate Up' / 'Back' on iOS?OK, I've pretty much gotten that your married to all things Apple. But there's no need to compare Apple and Google or VO and TB with some kind of superiority complex. Something that has more features than something else does (not) make it better than its alternatives. It just makes it more bloated. Plus, there are more screen readers on Android and all of you guys who are a bunch of Apple fanboys seem to be (forgetting) that. Very deliberately too. How convenient for you... except not.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

You do know that is not related to app design right?  I also got that you are such an Apple hater, but tell me then, why do Android apps offer a navigate up button? Why waste screen space? Oh yeah, that's right, because they cannot 100 percent rely on that button. Anyways, the back button was an example. Take that out, that was not my point. My point is that confirmation/closing/dismissing of popups is 90 percent of the times at top right, menu is usually bottom left, while the center of the screen is left to important interaction items. I am not saying that Android should do the same, I am just saying that across different apps the design is way less consistent and was curious why developers choose to do so.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@26, you do know that on every phone I've had at least there is a back and home button at the bottom of the screen, right? And that the back button does an equivalent function to that to 'Navigate Up' / 'Back' on iOS?OK, I've pretty much gotten that your married to all things Apple. But there's no need to compair Apple and Google with some kind of superiority complex.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Agreed @26.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Android WhatsApp, sure, what's easier? The fact continuous playback does not work with TalkBack on or the fact that there are no custom actions just like in any other app? Maybe the fact you don't have accurate seeking through voice messages? UI in most iOS apps is way more consistent and cleaner. Even in Google apps just like I mentioned in one of the previous topics. You usually know that done, okay or save is at the top right corner, back is usually top left, you don't have to flick through useless elements and so on. Thinking right now, I can't exactly say I have a huge list of apps that have a really good UI on Android. Everything on Android works just fine, but apps on iOS are usually much faster to navigate.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Also, Android Whatsapp is easier to use. They both have perks that the other doesn't have.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@Chris, exactly. Its not that I can't use my phone, its just that there are more adds in apple apps than android apps. And as for the lines, If you press insert down arrow, you don't even notice it. But I'll still move the lines. The reason I didn't move them sooner was because I didn't get much time. There are some things I like about my Apple, but My samsung delivers in other stuff. Like being able to listen podcasts for free. And play games with GA. +, Siri's jokes aren't that funny. 

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : electro via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

That's the only reazon why I only use Android. Oh I mean come on, guys, this type of competition between mobile companies are striking apart.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

If you don't like advertisements, install Pi-hole on a Raspberry Pi and set your iOS device to use it for DNS requests. This should get rid of the majority of advertisements, and good riddance I say! All the products being advertised are things I don't care about and will never want.Do you want to know what bothers me about Apple more than anything else? It is their "We do things our way and if you don't like it, fuck you!" attitude. I like the Mac and iOS devices, but all the arbitrary restrictions, insane prices on iPhones, and lack of attention given to the Mac line has really irritated me, to the point where I might not buy anymore Apple products.The thing is, while they are free to act how they wish, their actions are going to determine if customers continue purchasing products. It's a shame more people aren't paying attention to all the stupid crap going on with the company lately. They're setting themselves up for failure.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

If you don't like advertisements, install Pi-hole on a Raspberry Pi and set your iOS device to use it for DNS requests. This should get rid of the majority of advertisements, and good riddance I say! All the products being advertised are things I don't care about and will never want.Do you want to know what bothers me about Apple more than anything else? It is their "We do things our way and if you don't like it, fuck off!" attitude. I like the Mac and iOS devices, but all the arbitrary restrictions, insane prices on iPhones, and lack of attention given to the Mac line has really irritated me, to the point where I might not buy anymore Apple products.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

If you don't like advertisements, install Pi-hole on a Raspberry Pi and set your iOS device to use it for DNS requests. This should get rid of the majority of advertisements, and good riddance I say! All the products being advertised are things I don't care about and will never want.You want to know what bothers me about Apple more than anything else? It is their "We do things our way and if you don't like it, fuck off!" attitude. I like the Mac and iOS devices, but all the arbitrary restrictions, insnae prices on iPhones, and lack of attention given to the Mac line has really irritated me, to the point where I might not buy anymore Apple products.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

If you don't like advertisements, install Pi-hole on a Raspberry Pi and set your iOS device to use it for DNS requests. This should get rid of the majority of advertisements, and good riddance I say! All the products being advertised are things I don't care about and will never want.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : simba via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Well, apparently the topic creater hates on a company just because he isn't able to use his phone correctly, yeah, nuf said.Greetings Moritz.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

To clarify, the original poster stated they didn't like apple, not ios and or iphones or ipads or what not... so I took androids owning company too then, only to make a fair comparison. Also, about the price, i've yet to find values, but i'm not entirely sure you can find a phone with the same specs as an iphone including being water proof and so on, for under 400 dollars or even more... And, yes, you have more choice if it comes to hardware, but you also have to spend more cash initially to get vocaliser voices [if you want to have the same gamma as ios has, you'll have to cuff up a good deal of cash], if you want another screenreader [you better let them cash flow] and so forth... Yes, you can probably use the bought software on other phones if you migrate or so, but still...

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

To clarify, the original poster stated they didn't like apple, not ios and or iphones or ipads or what not... so I took androids owning company too then, only to make a fair comparison.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Adds are there also for a reason, in the case of apps that is. either to get people to buy a "remove add" option, or to generate an "income" for the app devs. And, are you kidding me, google having less adds? Youtube, adds, search engine, sponsored links.. do i need to continue... Compaired to that, I've yet to find apple putting adds anywhere...

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Lol, why can't everybody just press tab to move to the next link and go up to read the rest of the post? Blank lines were terribly stupid indeed, but it does not make a post unreadable. Oh well, it's a good lesson for skimming the web with a screen reader.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : moonwalker via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

1. Order a case from Ebay, it's much cheaper. Hope it doesn't count as piracy.2. Hating a company just because you can't use it properly, is not the company's fault.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Draq via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Hmm. Using voodoo on computers. I wonder how that works. 

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@#1 I really must ask why you're blatantly ignoring everyone who points out the blank line issue with your post.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

@13, I really hope that I don't start seing ads on system startup. Considering the way an OS boots and all that, I really, really can't imagine how you'd implement an ad blocker at that point. An ad generator would either need to be a loadable driver or embeded into the OS kernel. If its a driver, then getting rid of the ads would only cost you the amount of time it takesto permanently remove a driver from your OS driver list (either the windows driver store, the loaded modules on system boot for Linux, etc). If its embedded in the kernel though, then your only option would be to intercept the video card. That would require an extremely sophisticated driver and code base; I doubt anyone would tackle that. The likelihood of that happening though is almost nil since:1) Microsoft and Apple are unlikely to embed such code directly in the kernel, owing to the low-level system code that is executing at that time; and2) as for the Linux kernel, such a patch would likely never get passed the kernel review process.The only thing we must then worry about is at the firmware level. Now that is definitely a very real possibility. Of course that might then significantly lower the revenue of the company doing the ads that way.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Lucas1853 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

#9, ads on system startup is a valid concern. I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen in some capacity in the next few years.Also agreed with everyone else, those blank lines are stupid.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jeffb via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

How the heck can you read a post with 40 blanks in them? Why dude? Yeah I'm not a big fan of Apple these days but money makes the world go round. That's saddly how it is until the ocean rises and washes everything away.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I don't have data. Its a big waste. Its a real shame.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : BlindNinja via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Could you please remove the blank lines? I counted 30 of them... unnecessary clutter is unnecessary IMO. Or in this case, void is probably a better word than clutter.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Its called mobile data, my friend. Ads can be hardcoded though. No 'sourcery', good sir. None at all. All you need are a few hardcoded embedded strings and a timer set to display them at random and you've got ads. (What I do find appalling is that people actually have started displaying ads in the terminal. In fact, the Node.JS module repository (NPM) had to explicitly set out a policy forbidding a package from displaying ads on the terminal. How low can people sink these days? I can handle ads in my web browser, yes I can; I have nice ad blockers for them annoyances. But ads in my terminal? No thanks, take them ads and shove 'em! What's next? Ads during system startup and POST? Ye gads!)

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Its called mobile data, my friend. Ads can be hardcoded though. No 'sourcery', good sir. None at all. All you need are a few hardcoded embedded strings and a timer set to display them at random and you've got ads. (What I do find appalling is that people actually have started displaying ads in the terminal. In fact, the Node.JS module repository (NPM) had to explicitly set out a policy forbidding a package from displaying ads on the terminal. How low can people sink these days? I can handle ads in my web browser, yes I can; I have nice ad blockers for them annoyances. But ads in my terminal? No thanks, take them ads and shove 'em!)

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Its called mobile data, my friend. Ads can be hardcoded though. No 'sourcery', good sir. one at all.All you need are a few hardcoded embedded strings and a timer set to display them at random and you've got ads.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Also, how in the hell, could I get adds without internet? What sourcery is that?

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I understand that the app dev places apps, but their are noticeably more adds on IOS than droid. That's a fact. Well, at least in my experience.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Most ads in games are closed by turning VO off and then touching the top right corner of the screen. That being said, there are Droids without a capacitive back button as well. Samsung has it, however Google phones don't have one, and the software back button is not always present. However, just like the previous poster said, Apple has nothing to do with that. About pricing, that is the biggest advantage and selling point of Android phones, the fact you have a huge choice.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about with ads.Apple doesn't control the ads that are in third-party apps. All of that is done by the app developer and the ad network they use.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ty via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

there's no need for all the blank lines, and I agree.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Could you have made your point without putting about 40 blank lines in your post? Also, there are ways around ads in apps, you just need a good ad blocker. But yes, Apple's products are overpriced, but the big name companies are following suit with Android products as well, since they know Apple gets away with it.

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The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


The real reason I hate Apple.

Hello people. In this post I am going to tell you the real reasons I hate Apple.1. Apple is just to overpriced. You know how much for a case over here? 700 dollars. For reference, that's a hundred bucks to americans. For that price, I could go out and get a Hondai Phone. They suck, but why pay the price of a phone for a case? Bull crap.2. The ultimate, and most serious reason, is!THE ADDS.The stinking adds! I hate them. Apple, is the only company that does obia! Obia, is what we call voodoo. Yep. Explain to me, how the hell, I'm getting adds without internet? Explain that! And the annoying thing is, I can't even figure out how the heck to close them off. With my J6, I could have just simply tapped the back button. No biggie. But with  Apple, no stinking button I have to 2d tap, or 3D tap, or whatever d tap to get it out. I was playing City Island, and I gave up because of the bloody adds.          If you know how to close the adds, please tell me.

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Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

2019-10-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: The real reason I hate Apple.

Tell me if the poll is up.

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