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Weird, Where is my completed code, Lol its interesting. So we start from where we was: btn.Text = "Click me! "; //We just set our button's text btn.Click += btn_click; //We told the program to call the function "btn_click" when user clicks on our button this.Controls.Add(btn); //We added our button to controls so it's ready to use!} public void btn_click(object sender, EventArgs e) {//When user clicks on our button, Something should happen of course! They all go here }}}
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Hi. Let me clear some things for you here, as a person who tryed to learn C++, python, java and C#:Well actually i could not go around pointers in C++, and i still don't know what they do because they need a bit thinking to be understood correctly but not only thinking is needed. In fact, You need to understand word by word a tutorial, At least the tutorial which you're reading to learn pointers, as they are one of the most important things in C++ programming. I personally like C++/C#/JAVA/PHP sintax, As they're easy to be understood and easy-to-use while in python you'll get confused sometimes when you need some blocks in each other. You will get scrude by those spaces (At least if you are a beginner)but keep in mind that if I couldn't learn pointers, that doesn't mean you can't learn them too. Give them a try and if you feel you're good with them, C++ is awesome!Now let's compare C# with python. We assoom that a deve
loper wants to code an audio game and he doesn't know which programming language is better for his perpous. If you're like him, so I have to tell you that python's game development libraries are a bit hard to understand for a beginner. Even libaudioverse is hard to use. You need to mess around with notes, buffers, and it will take a lot of time only for playing a fiew sounds while you can easily do this with C#. In c#, there's a sound library called IrrClan, Which is very, very very easy to use and easy to implement. To play a sound in Irrclan all you need to do is declare the engine, and you can do everything with it if you want! Perform effects, revers, wave-reverbs, Gargles, and some others or you even can push them away and use it normally with no environmental effects. In this case, here's the code that you write to play a sound:engine.play3d(soundfile, x, y, z, looping);and the interesting thing is that this library is really like bgt'
s sound_pool include, which makes it much more easy-to-understand and easy-to-use for a programmer who knows bgt.Speaking of guis, The most and simplest programming language to create guis is C#( Inn my opinian though). If you're using visual studio, Your good with toolbox menu and its designer, you can insert everything with it easily! Otherwise if you want to do that yourself, Here's a simple example of inserting a button in your GUI application:using System;using System.Collections.Generic;using System.ComponentModel;using System.Data;using System.Drawing;using System.Linq;using System.Text;using System.Threading.Tasks;using System.Windows.Forms;namespace WindowsFormsApp3{ public partial class Form1 : Form { Button btn = new Button(); //We declared the button public Form1() &nb
sp; { btn.Text =
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Re: What language is easy? Learning multiple languages at the same time, or learning one by one and trying to actually write code in each of them is good idea. That's what I'm doing every time when I want to learn some programming language. Also, you will never, never know if the programming language is good for you or not if you actually don't try it. I've learned C++ before Python. I found it too complicated for my current computer knowledge and programming needs, so I switched to Lua and after a short amount of time I've learned Python. Now I got a job as a developer, so I finally got a reason to learn few more languages, so now I'm learning Java and Perl. Java is now much easier for me than I thought it would be, because it's syntax is similar to C++ or C#, and thanks to Python I can understand object oriented programming much easier because both Python and Java are object oriented languages. The point is, the more programming knowledge you have, the easier it will be for you to switch between various programming languages. Also learning BGT as someone who already has some coding experience was not a problem for me. In fact the bigger problem for me in BGT were it's advanced features such as handlers and function handlers, interfaces and similar stuff that is not available in Python. And just to mention for the end of my post, regarding sound libraries for Python 3, the answer is Libaudioverse. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316847#p316847 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy? Learning multiple languages at the same time, or learning one by one and trying to actually write code in each of them is good idea. That's what I'm doing every time when I want to learn some programming language. Also, you will never, never know if the programming language is good for you or not if you actually don't try it. I've learned C++ before Python. I found it too complicated for my current computer knowledge and programming needs, so I switched to Lua and after a short amount of time I've learned Python. Now I got a job as a developer, so I finally got a reason to learn few more languages, so now I'm learning Java and Perl. Java is now much easier for me than I thought it would be, because it's syntax is similar to C++ or C#, and thanks to Python I can understand object oriented programming much easier because both Python and Java are object oriented languages. The point is, the more programming knowledge you have, the easier it will be for you to switch between various programming languages. And just to mention for the end of my post, regarding sound libraries for Python 3, the answer is Libaudioverse. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316847#p316847 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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ok, let me elaberatefirst, logic doesnt mean that you should calculate lots of things (for example you dont need to calculate the logorithm of 20), when you need it, you will call a pre-written function to do thisbut if you dont want it, you will just write the algorithm and the computer calculates for you this makes programming more powerfulland i want to convey my meaning better with an example:you won't calculate 4*3*3*748/128*294 you will write it, and computer calculate ityou will write the algorithmnow about C# and pythondont compair python code as it is an interpreted language with C# which turns its code into .net assemblies which uses jit code at runtimeabout decompiling:all of the .net applications can be decompiled (please note it is not decompiled to original code), but it can be decompiled that you can see the informationbut about a way that can help you prevent decompiling:use an obfuscator (it ca
n be broken, but it is a security layour)i have to say, everything that can be read by computer can be read by the people so a C++ app also can be disassembledand, c and C++ compilers will optimize the code and produce assembly which is changed also by linker, which somehow makes hard to disassemble but it is also possible to disassemble the code which you can use cryptors and packers to prevent this (these are also breakable and these are security layours)also they are some ways exist to help you prevent running your app inside a debuggerabout speed and performance:try to execute a loop and see how mutch it takes to be executed?or, try to calculate a fibunatchi (the algorithm is simple):int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
double i, first, second, next;
first=0;
second=1;
for(i=1;i<=100;i++)
{
next=first+second;
first=second;
second=next;
}
}this is a simple algorithm of fibunatchi, you can use printf and things to print it on the screenit requires changingit is simple but because of loops, it can become slow
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2017-06-20
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Re: What language is easy? Hello,well, there is easy help, learn them both. For example also great advantage of Python for me is pip, package management system, you do not need to search something on the net first, then download, then compile which probably results in fail, because you don't have some dependency. Write only pip install package_name, and you are done in most cases, all dependencies and similar things are downloaded automatically, so it is very easy to extend python functionality.And I thing python speed will not radically hurt you, take for example Sound rts, there must be done many calculations in realtime to emulate battle situation, and it looks fine, games like Stw or Redspot needs less calculations.Also speed will depend on style, how you write the code, I found a nice article some time ago about optimalizing python code, and I was surprised by some po ints, which really go faster. As sayd in that article, python is not c++, so there are also different principles how to write fast app, that I did not know as c++ programmer.RegardsRastislav URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316278#p316278 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy? Guys, do not do it!Man novice, as I understand why he needs all these details?About Python 3, I have not seen libraries to work with sound. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316224#p316224 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2017-06-20
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Re: What language is easy? Hello,@Jonikster: great description, I will add three things only.First for C#, similar as Java this programming language is packaging its code to the executable, so it is decompilable like Java or Python.Second: Is true, that Python 2 have more libraryes, but i personally say, that is better to have less but good libraryes, than more but unprofessional or out of date libs. When I take facts, that Python 3 have support for utf-8 coding, many code improvements and support of important libraries like Tensorflow by Google or wxpython and many other, I must say that is more better to use version 3, because 2.x is out of date. but it is my personal opinion, it depends also on personal requirements, there can be one thing that will force someone to use version 2.And last I want to say, that python is slower, but for example like in Tensorflow's case, it can be tied with faster language, so you have fast c++ for example with readable Python, I create gui int erfaces by this way in python, because in c++ it is really terrible thing, and it works perfectly, much much better than have hundreds of lines in c++ upto normal code.RegardsRastislav URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316154#p316154 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy? Then the best choice for you is Python! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316150#p316150 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy? Hi.Thanks for your post .My criterias is Programming for windows and Linux, simple syntax and creating games and applications. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316141#p316141 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy? Hi dash.Let me tell you a few things, using which you can choose your own language:1. Platform:Under what platform do you want to write? Maybe you want to write not under Windows, but under Linux, maybe on iOS or Android?You should definitely decide on this issue.2. Cross-platform:Do you need cross-platform? Do you need your applications to work under multiple platforms?3. Syntax:Do you need a simple syntax, or do not you care?4. Applications:Do you only want to program games, or are you interested in programming other applications?These are the main selection criteria.I offer you several options:BGT is easy to learn, it has a simple syntax that will help you in the future, if you want to learn languages that have a similar syntax, such as C / C++ / C# / Java, you can start writing games very quickly.There are many examples of good games on BGT. Redspot, STW, Manamon, Psycho Strike, etc.Plus BGT is that you will learn how to build algorithms. I want to say that algorithms are more important than the programming language.Python - in my opinion has the simplest syntax from powerful and large programming languages.Plus Python is that you do not need to learn it for a long time. The main thing to learn the basics, then under the task to choose libraries and go!Python is good in that, when developing, you think more about the application algorithm than about the code.Python has its own philosophy. You can say that these are the rules for writing code that everyone is trying to observe.The code in Python is just read. This allows you to simply read someone else's code and easily understand it, which is not in C++.In Python, you do not need to know more about memory, you do not need to use pointers. Python does everything on its own!But there are also disadvantages:1. Python is an interpreted language. That is, you either ne ed to publish the source code of the application, and run it through the Python interpreter, or for the .exe application, you will have to deal with some problems. All the same there will be an interpreter code, as at creation of.exe a file in application the interpreter Python is built in.2. The speed of Python is not very high compared to C++ or C#. Yes, the speed is needed for video games, but if you conceived a huge project, you need to be sure before starting the development that the speed of Python will not hurt you.3. The complexity of the choice of version. In Python, two versions are currently under development. 2x and 3x. If Python 3 has many fixes, then Python 2 has more libraries. For this reason, it is necessary to choose.If you want to quickly develop, you want cross-platform, you want to quickly solve any problems, then Python is for you!In Python, developed games such as Undead Assoult, now Python is running Deathmatch, previously it was devel oped on PureBasic, SoundRTS!C# is a very good programming language from Microsoft. Its huge plus is that like Python, it does not require the developer to think about many things. But the C# code is more complicated than Python. This is a fully object-oriented programming language.Benefits of C#:1. C# combines the power of C++ and Java languages, simple syntax, a convenient IDE, a huge Framework in 1 language;2. C# works with NETFramework, which includes the ability to work with windows, the ability to handle keystrokes, the ability to work with files, the network, etc., which many times simplifies the work.3. C# has a large number of libraries.C# has a lot of advantages, but let's talk about the disadvantages:1. Windows! C# is the best language for Windows only!2. For running applications developed in C#, it is necessary to have Microsoft NETFramework on the computer. But I think that this is not a problem.3. Compared to Py thon, C# has a more complex syntax, but not as complex as C or C++! If you compare it to BGT syntax, it's 5-10 percent harder, but it's not always necessary to use all the features of C#. More complex capabilities simplify some tasks, but do not make them unresolvable.If you want to program only under Windows, if you want to develop very simple applications with GUI besides games, if you want to be sure of the speed, then C# is for you!On C#, the game Three-D-Velocity was developed.C++ is the most reliable language for programming games. High speed, cross-platform, great community. But it is more complicated than all the languages I mentioned earlier.Pros of C++:1. High speed, but for it you need to write the code correctly;2. A huge number of libraries;3. Huge opportunities! In fact, I can say that in C++, you can develop anything, anything.Cons C++:1. A complex code. Elementary basics are simple there, but for qualita tive development, you need to know what is define, stl. And for correct programming of C++ you need to learn a few years;2. Development takes a lot of time and code. In C++, you will write a lot more than Python or C#. For example, 40 lines
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Re: What language is easy? the thing is you dont need to be a mathamatition to be able to programand, for ease of use, learn bgt as it is easier than others or autoit which seems easythen you can learn other languages URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=316004#p316004 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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What language is easy? Hello.I searching very easy language to creating my games.I have very big problems with mathematics. What's very easy for newbies?Sorry for my English and thanks for all replies in this topic. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=315999#p315999 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? I like two British accents. The first is this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1XRPWOOwZgHere's Daniel speaking, but in his natural voice as a presenter.Then there's another one I like, this one a little more exagirated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BaPQb3pYKkIf you are not lazy to watch a funny video I found by chance, don't hesitate to click enter on it.There are some British accents talking to Siri of iPhone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYP1M1qvJo URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=215183#p215183 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Sometimes. It depends upon the region of scotland and how thick the person's accent is, in people like Silvesta mccoy as I said the rolled r is very pronounced, but at other times you don't hear much of it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=215126#p215126 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? And also, rolled r, It is in scottish or no? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=215115#p215115 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-05-05
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Yes, as the name and r suggests, he's Indian. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214992#p214992 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? @Rdf, I don't think I'd heard Brian Johnson speak before, though that is certainly a Jordy accent albeit a rather mild one, quite often people from other parts of the country end up getting completely lost, and really if you went to the center of Newcastle there are times you'd think people weren't speaking English, at least until your used to it. Interestingly enough though, it's not an accent that transfers at all. Despite living up hear in Durham and hearing that accent every day, I've never picked it up even in the slightest, indeed a friend of mine who's wife is Jordy is the same. Similarly, as you heard with brian Johnson, it's a very stubborn accent, sinse though it gets less, it never goes completely. Sometimes my mum will run into someone somewhere else and say "oh your from Newcastle or Durham aren't you!" . It's not an accent you heard As to the rolling r's, I would guess Ramachandran is Indian? It's quite common when indians speak English I've noticed. I don't know if it's because we associate it often with large stage acting like shakespear, but I will agree on drama in the rolled r's, although I do tend to find if the voice is too forward as is the case with a lot of upper class (or trying to be upper class), english accents it can sound more pretencious than dramatic, though that might well just be personal opinion and I freely admit having had a very irritating teacher at special school who's favourite phrase was "it is the rarrarrarrarrules" probably didn't give me the best impression of the practice . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214987#p214987 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Yes, ofcourse.But, also french orthography is difficult and grammar is easy.Orthography is writing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214986#p214986 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-05-05
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? This post might be a bit off topic, but as we are already discussing different English accents, here it goes.First of all I really do like Brian Johnsons accent. He's the man who sings in AC/DC. When I googled his accent, I read from a forum that he's got the Jordy accent, but hopefully Dark can confirm or falsify it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZl9CHPuzXkThen there's the rolling r thing. One of my favourit examples is Ramachandran. I guess one of the reasons is that this kind of r suits very well with this kind of huge voice:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2LwnaUA-kRegards URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214983#p214983 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-05-05
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Hello,As far as I know, Spanish and French are easy to learn, and this is certainly the same thing with the English language, Arabic is one of the difficult language as I know, but it's my native language, so I personally fluent in it and English, and these are the only languages I know, in addition to some words and sentences and conversation methods in some different languages. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214965#p214965 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? @geovani, I had not heard of neo slavic before, but as I said I don't really see much point in Esperanto, sinse though your correct it contains many words that speakers of English, french, Italian and spanish will understand, a native speaker of any of those languages will still have to learn esperanto to communicate in it. the theoretical advantage was supposed to be that Esperanto was an easier language to learn, however the problem is that nobody actually speaks it, you can't go to Esperantoland and make yourself understood . Indeed, esperanto is somewhat different from fictional languages like Elvish and Klingon, sinse there are fictional historical materials and myths in those languages to study, but the main practical advantage to learning esperanto is pretty much just that you know esperanto, which is why as I said it became something of a status symbol and a joke in the Uk. I'm not sure what you mean about "pidgin languages" generally speaking the term "Pidgin English" is a rather old fashioned term for those who spoke a very limited, often broken form of English, usually as a secondary language, indeed it's a quite derogatory term as far as I've heard it used, and so it wouldn't say be used to describe legitimate dialects or hybrid languages like Criole. @Afrim, I agree on french being difficult and also that you must have a reason to learn a language, I don't think i'd want to learn one out of the blue, as I said Italian I am learning just for singing purposes. The O sound in british as opposed to american english is pronounced entirely differently, with the lips coming forward rather than staying back as occurs in American English, indeed I will confess there is someone on the audeasy list who keeps getting on my nurves complaining that he can't tell the difference between an o and a lengthened a when spoken unless the a has a pronounced r. Of course there are several very distinct regional accents in Britain, but the distinct backwards o is fairly universal, although in some regions other vowel sounds can get confused, Jordies up here in the northeast for example have a habbit of pronouncing I sounds as ay sounds, so time sounds like tame. of course this is the point of the clarity of what is somettimes called oxford english or recieved pronunciation. With music however, it depends heavily on style. most pop music does indeed for some reason always employ an american accent (though there is some that doesn't), but a lot of musical theatre or light opera or even commic songs don't.It does rather annoy me if someone attempts to sing a song in the wrong accent or style, and indeed I'd find it equally irritating if a singer attempted an american song with a british accent (still worse, a rather artificial singer's accent), as I would if an American singer started singing an english song in their native accent. this is why if I were singing something like why god why from miss saigon I'd always employ an american accent, but if I'm doing something like Gilbert and sullivan I'd always use my natural English. Then of course, there are songs which are fairly interchangeable too, such as a lot of Les Miserables (given that the characters are french but the songs are in English).All that being said, one thing I will say is that clear singing diction has nothing to do with accent so much as it is to do with breath control, using your lips and tongue and nasal resonance properproperly, and of course being %100 clear on what your doing. sadly, this is where a lot of pop singers fall short, not their accents, but their technique. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214877#p214877 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Yes, I agree.But, I know, what languages are very easy to learn.When You wrote about British English, I remembered to, for example Patwa in Jamaica, which is creole of Jamaica and this caribbean English have some features of British languages too.So, I must say, that creoles, or pidgins are very easy to learn.And if some people know about It, those languages were created from another languages. This is a great examples, how a new languages are created.Also, do You heard about Esperanto? This is a great example, because there are many words from Romance languages and romance languages were created from Latin. There are many constructed languages to communicate with anothers, for example Neoslavic.I wrote about It, because I am from Slovakia and every people from Slavic nations, such as Croatians and Russians can understand of this language, because there are many words from Polish, Czech, Russian, Croatian, Bulgarian and many languages. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214841#p214841 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Also, don't know if it's been stated or not, another important thing that we should keep in mind, is that we must find ourselves interested in learning the language we are ordered or our school offers. But this feeling comes by learning more and more things from that language.I find English the easiest language so far, although it might not be that one, but it doesn't have so much verb tenses and the grammar is not difficult to be obtained.French for me is still the most difficult language to learn, I wouldn't try to learn it even though everything would have been free, it just frustrates me. I find it even further difficult than Ecuasions in Math or some theories in physics.I am a lover of British English and I don't like when some bands from London, Manchester and other places in England try to sing in an American accent, although it has become an "international" singing language for most of the artists nowadays.Someth ing I don't like about the American accent is that In American, in some words, the O is pronounced "A", or E+A "E".And That R, in British English, which is not pronounced in the end of the word sounds great. +The clear "T" is amazing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214821#p214821 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Also, don't know if it's been stated or not, another important thing that we should keep in mind, is that we must find ourselves interested in learning the language we are ordered or our school offers. But this feeling comes by learning more and more things from that language.I find English the easiest language so far, although it might not be that one, but it doesn't have so much verb tenses and the grammar is not difficult to be obtained.French for me is still the most difficult language to learn, I wouldn't try to learn it even though everything would have been free, it just frustrates me. I find it even further difficult than Ecuasions in Math or some theories in physics.I am a lover of British English and I don't like when some bands from London, Manchester and other places in England try to sing in an American accent, although it has become an "international" singing language for most of the artists nowadays.Someth ing I don't like about the American accent is that In American, in some words, the O is pronounced "A", or E+A "E".And That R, which is not pronounced in the end of the word sounds great. +The clear "T" is amazing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214821#p214821 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? @Paddy, unfortunately I've not heard much spoken Dutch, which is somewhat ironic given that I've technically been working voluntarily for a Dutch organization for the last eight years, sinse Sander and Richard are Dutch and the game accessibility Special interest group is based in Holland. With German I found the basic conversational bits not too hard to understand, though as I said I mostly just picked it up as I went along, but trying to sing in German I find difficult sinse poetry obviously is a very different beast, plus when singing your pronunciation needs to be extremely clear, and some of the German gutterals and vowel sounds I found very hard to get my tongue around. With the rolled r, it is not the norm in English at all the way it would be in Spanish or Italian, and indeed it always gets up my nose when you hear singers singing English songs with a rolled r and over emphasized, artificial diction. A miner rolled r (though far less than in s omething like Spanish), is occasionally used by people who consider themselves upper class or at least are attempting to sound that way, but mostly you'd be thought pretty pretentious for trying it and it's largely fallen out of fashion, even for people who do speak good English. There are of course some Scotish accents where a rolled r, even an extreme rolled r is fairly natural, Silvester Mccoy has made it something of his trade mark, or I should say his trarararararade mark .(btw, hope that came out in whatever screen reader your using. Though as I said for British English unless you were specifically trying to speak like the queen it's not generally used anymore. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214789#p214789 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Well, I think in some cases, the Dutch pronounciation is kind of close to the English one, because the Dutch language also has the rolled r you would use in English. But as far as I found out, Dutch people only roll the r if it is located at the end of a word, elkaar, for instance. But there are some words, like hartelijk, where the r is been rolled as well.But I can't really tell when you have to roll the r and when you don't.I find Dutch pretty easy to learn, although I am learning on an English-based platform, because if you put German and English together, there are a lot of simmilarities, especially in German.Let's take the word for to drink: In German you say "trinken", in Dutch you say "drinken".An English example would be self ("zelf" in Dutch).I personally like Dutch and I learn it because for me, the language sounds echt moei, vriendelijk en gezellig, really nice, friendly and gregarious or to again show the simmilarity to German, echt schön, freundlich und gesellig. I also have some Dutch speaking friends, which has a kind of interesting influence on me, because by listening to their Dutch conversations, especially if they speak slow and clear, I learned how to express myself and a bit how the grammar works. So, thanks for that actually! For now, learning Dutch currently is a free-time-project, but I might try to attend a course or something in the future, shouldn't I already learned a lot of things on Taalthuis.
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? I don't recall this thread, I must've missed it first time around. @Afrim, interesting stuff, I didn't know that about the language in albania.@Arabic, the problem with those created universal language thingies, like esperanto is practically nobody actually speaks them accept in dedicated communities. Esperanto has gone out of fashion I think precisely for that reason, in that back in the ninenties it was just a sort of status symbol more than a practical language and a way for people to prove how modern and cultured they were (there's fun made of this in the British scifi comedy tv and book series Red Dwarf).Anyway, to an extent the arguement of language similarity based on similar origin, grammar etc seems vaguely true, a Dutch friend of mine did tell me she found English easy and said it was because it was linguistically closest to dutch (though whether this is true or just her opinion I'm not sure). however also I agree with Assault freak, things are often highly individual. If you have like my brothered watched a lot of subtitled Japanese things, you will naturally absorb some of the language, just as you would if you say lived in a place where more than one language was spoken, I have a cousin who's wife is Estonian and their sun who was about four when I last saw him spoke English and Russian pretty equally and switched between the two quite casually. Despite the supposed French influence on English, I found, and in fact still find French a horribly difficult language, both in it's pronunciation and emphasis, and in it's down right crazy spelling! Indeed it is quite odd, I came back from a week in Austria speaking actually quite a bit of German, just from learning how to order food in restaurants, buy things in shops and say I was from England, (the majority of the Austrians where I was spoke extremely good English but I did appreciate learning the language).I also c ame back from Griece when I was a teenager knowing a few words of modern Griek, particularly because the Grieks seemed to appreciate the fact that I'd made an effort, but I've not once learnt any French despite going to France several times and despite whilst in France people often seem to understand English but do not actually speak it, not sure why this is, or even if it is all of France or just the bits I saw, though it's a fairly common experience that people I know who have been to France have had. One French chap I met who I discussed this with, (he was a Doctor of Archaeology), actually said the French education system was so theoretical, that people in France who learnt English actually never got any chance to practice it at school, they were just first presented with the grammer and word list. I don't know if this is true, or if any of our French members could confirm it but it was an interesting thought. Apart from French though, I did spani sh at school which I found not too hard, the concepts with the different tenses were not difficult for me to understand albeit that I was learning in secondary school so the pace was slower, and have been learning conversational Italian which again I find relatively easy, basically so that i am a more effective singer in the language, although it's structure is far less rigid than spanish and remembering all those irregular verds is a pest (in Spanish it always seemed far easier to just learn the rules annd apply them), particularly sinse I don't unfortunately italian on a frequent bases.I could probably make myself understood, and cope if I had to order in a restaurant, go shopping, do the touristy things, and according to people I've sung or spoken to mmy pronunciation is fairly convincinn, but I don't find myself completely natural in the languaage or able to converse without extensive pauses and rememberings by me of what word or tense applies, though according to my teacher I've not done too badly. What I particularly like is that given that my teacher is from genoa, I learn a lot of the culture and about life as well as language, plus she gives me the most amazing Italian imported coffee! . What I did find interesting is that when my parents, and to an extent I first met my teacher we believed her to be a slightly abrupt rather commanding lady because of the way she spoke. she would say things like "You come on wednesday", or "Go and sit down and I will make the coffee" These sound almost rude in English, given that in English we'd usually phraise such things as requests, or add the word please to be polite, eg, "come back on wednesday please" or "If you sit down I will bring you some coffee" and originally we assumed my teac her was a rather foreceful lady. Funnily enough though, it turned out as I got to know her that is not the case at all, and when I learnt the Italian it t
Re: What language is easy and what is difficult?
Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? I don't recall this thread, I must've missed it first time around. @Afrim, interesting stuff, I didn't know that about the language in albania.@Arabic, the problem with those created universal language thingies, like esperanto is practically nobody actually speaks them accept in dedicated communities. Esperanto has gone out of fashion I think precisely for that reason, in that back in the ninenties it was just a sort of status symbol more than a practical language and a way for people to prove how modern and cultured they were (there's fun made of this in the British scifi comedy tv and book series Red Dwarf).Anyway, to an extent the arguement of language similarity based on similar origin, grammar etc seems vaguely true, a Dutch friend of mine did tell me she found English easy and said it was because it was linguistically closest to dutch (though whether this is true or just her opinion I'm not sure). however also I agree with Assault freak, things are often highly individual. If you have like my brothered watched a lot of subtitled Japanese things, you will naturally absorb some of the language, just as you would if you say lived in a place where more than one language was spoken, I have a cousin who's wife is Estonian and their sun who was about four when I last saw him spoke English and Russian pretty equally and switched between the two quite casually. Despite the supposed French influence on English, I found, and in fact still find French a horribly difficult language, both in it's pronunciation and emphasis, and in it's down right crazy spelling! Indeed it is quite odd, I came back from a week in Austria speaking actually quite a bit of German, just from learning how to order food in restaurants, buy things in shops and say I was from England, (the majority of the Austrians where I was spoke extremely good English but I did appreciate learning the language).I also c ame back from Griece when I was a teenager knowing a few words of modern Griek, particularly because the Grieks seemed to appreciate the fact that I'd made an effort, but I've not once learnt any French despite going to France several times and despite whilst in France people often seem to understand English but do not actually speak it, not sure why this is, or even if it is all of France or just the bits I saw, though it's a fairly common experience that people I know who have been to France have had. One French chap I met who I discussed this with, (he was a Doctor of Archaeology), actually said the French education system was so theoretical, that people in France who learnt English actually never got any chance to practice it at school, they were just first presented with the grammer and word list. I don't know if this is true, or if any of our French members could confirm it but it was an interesting thought. Apart from French though, I did spani sh at school which I found not too hard, and have been learning conversational Italian which again I find relatively easy, basically so that i am a more effective singer in the language, although it's structure is far less rigid than spanish and remembering all those irregular verds is a pest, particularly sinse I don't speak it on a frequent bases. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214636#p214636 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-05-02
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? including interlingua, it's a constructed language similar from spanish. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214635#p214635 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Yes, shurely.Because if somebody compares a language, It must be compared from grammar, phonology, or orthography. There are various methods I notice. This article was only by grammar side of languages.But yes, Latin is difficult. But new languages are easier, tham Latin, for example those, which was created from Latin: Italian, Spanish, or Romanian. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214611#p214611 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Hi all. I think that we can not put a label on a langoage or other. What can I say, is that the easiest langoage, is the langoage that you like and langoage that are you speaking. In my opinion, it is easy for me English but others can say that I am wrong. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214598#p214598 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? @Arabic two thousand, do not trust wikipedia. Interlingua is probably not a language, or it is and it doesn't sound write to me, as Google Translate has like all the languages in existence - or maybe not - and interlingua is not on here. I'l look at though, but this sounds like an article just to get attention. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214597#p214597 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Hello there,I stumbled upon this thread earlier, but didn't have the time to answer. So I'm bringing this up again out of the depth.I have to agree that German is a kind of more difficult language. But currently I am in a Latin course for a couple of years now, and I must say that it's more difficult, especially because of the ending-letters of a word. Because the ending of the word declares the tence, singular/plural, the person, etc.In my opinion, Nederlands is echt makkelijk to leeren voor mij (Dutch is really easy to learn for me).If you want to see what learning Dutch is like, you might check out http://www.taalthuis.com and find out yourself how difficult or easy it is for you.Many Dutch people also speak English and German pretty good, which is quite impressive! And many eastern-Europeans I met could express themselves in German pretty good, especially those from Czeck Republic, Slovakia an d Poland. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=214582#p214582 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-03-01
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? the most eazy language is Interlingua,For more imformation about this language, I can post this link. It's from wikipedia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlingua URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=206915#p206915 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? Hello,I’m a student at the school of foreign languages which attends lessons in my city. There are four languages available, certainly combined, like English+Italian, English+German, and English+French. So In the second grade also the third language is added, and I study English+Italian+German. To be honest, as it’s stated above, it depends on the person and the country as well. For example, I’m an Albanian. Here in the past, during the years 1925 to 1939, we were influenced by Italian culture. This situation went on for years and during the communist regime many people used to illegally listen to Italian radios and many seniors may speak Italian a little nowadays. After the communist regime many people migrated to Italy, and the influence became more distinguish. There was a period during 1999 to 2003 or 2005 when people used to listen so much to Italian music and watch Italian films. Also our language contains many Italian words, and it appears easy to many people to learn Italian here. But I myself find difficult learning French and German because they didn’t have any impact here and the grammar is a bit different. Honestly, when I first started to learn French, I got headache and I left the course.Then there’s English. English in my opinion is good for those people who are able to memorize so much, and for those who love it. I’m one of them and I have to say that the grammar is easy, there aren’t so much tenses like in Italian. But there is an endless number of Idioms and phrasal verbs and it is supposed that a large number of words to have two or more synonyms. So here’s where the difficulty begins. I think English is great for first levels, but when you study upper ones, the work doubles. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=206883#p206883 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: What language is easy and what is difficult? That's a very difficult question because the answer depends so much on the person. For example, I find Japanese and Korean morphology, phonology and grammar to be pretty straightforward or simple, and much of it makes sense in my head. Many, many people say that they feel like Japanese and Korean are two very difficult languages to learn... I think it's very dependent on your background and what you are used to. If you speak English as a native language, all the rlmance languages EG: French, Spanish, Portuguese, etc... will be easier to learn, because of a great deal of resemblance in grammar as well as vocabulary cognates that sound similar or in some cases almost exactly the same. I would find it interesting to try and learn slovakian, but I don't even know the general grammar structure of slovak languages and what they're like, so I might find it a little difficult to get into at first. German also was difficult for me when I tried for a few months, but Japa nese and Korean, while starting as a little difficult, became very easy and are now I would say two easier languages to learn. But it's all personal, of course. And I think this particular subject is very much that, subjective and everyone will have different answers. Fascinating discussion, though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=206619#p206619 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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What language is easy and what is difficult? Hi!I have this question, because I noticed some articles. In this articles was, that Spanish is easy and Slovak is difficult.But It was maybe morphological analysis and ofcourse, phonological. Of Slovak, yes, grammar is difficult. I am from Slovakia.But now, I have a question.What language is easy to learn?I'll glad to your answers.My opinions is as follows:Maybe hibrid languages are not difficults, or pidgins, and creoles. For example English language was created of Anglosaxon, Old Norse and lastly, normand French. And also, French from Vulgar Latin, Celtic languages and germanic Frankish language. Also, Italian was developed from Latin.Due to that, try present a Jamaican, or another creols, which are better, as pidgin and looks to grammar. Or, Iyaric in Jamaica, which is kind of dialect.But, what are Your opinions? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=206579#p206579 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
