[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
fairyliquidizer Wrote: Except it's buffered output so you wont get any jitter. The output is identical. Squeezebox has zero jitter? wow! -- martintyler martintyler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2385 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
There was once a post on here stating that the author preferred WAV over flac. Knowing that flac is lossless I found that hard to believe, so I decided to do a quick test. I grabbed hold of one of my brand new CDs, selected a track, and ripped said track using EAC Secure into a WAV file, and a flac file. I then used foobar to play both files, choosing the same section of music to play over and over from both. After extensive listening I detected no difference whatsoever between the two. I then wondered whether there might be an issue with the way the SB decodes the formats... This was easily checked by uploading the two files onto my server, and then using the SB3 to play them. Again, after extensive listening, I found no difference between the two. -- CavesOfTQLT CavesOfTQLT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..
How much of a difference is there and how would you describe it. I know the K variety goes for 60%+ more then the standard one and the specs don't seem to be that different. Not sure I understand the difference. -- Machine Machine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
SoundBoy Wrote: Is there an easy way on the mac to convert AAC to FLAC? About the only good FLAC converter on the Mac (unless one uses the command line, and I don't know about that) is xACT. I don't think it converts from AAC, so you would have to go from AAC to aiff first. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lite Audio DAC-60 thinking about getting one..
the K version is just the highest grade. I guess the ones that spec better during production. This has been going on with DACs since the early days. Remember the Philips TDA-1541A Crown, their highest grade. It was used in my old McIntosh MCD7007 CD player and scores of other high-end digital gear. I asked the K chip question to Danny of GR Research. He said that all of these DACs are marked the same from the factory. The only difference being a couple of white dots painted on the chip surface, to indicate the higher grade. -- crooner crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
MusicMonkey Wrote: Has anybody noticed a sound quality difference between playing WAV vs. FLAC files on the SqueezeBox3? I'm wondering if it's possible that there's a slightly fuller, more clean and open sound from playing WAVs directly through the Squeezebox. Of course, theoretically there should be no difference at all, hence my question to this forum. My setup: I tried decoding my FLACs into WAV and playing both through the SqueezeBox to compare. There's absolutely no replay-gain, no equalization, normalization etc. on the FLACs - everything was originally ripped from CD to WAV using EAC, and then compressed to FLAC using Flac v1.2. The FLACs, when uncompressed, yield bit-for-bit the identical WAVs that were originally ripped from CD. What are people experiencing? Is it all psychological or is there in fact something slightly different in the sound quality? FLAC would have to be decompressed on the SB, but that isn't a very big job. Nevertheless I guess the extra processing might subtly influence sound quality. (By causing more electrical noise.) Is there any way to transcode FLAC to WAV on the server side, and see what result you get? (I haven't looked much into transcoding. A friend has lossless WMA on the server, and Slimserver transcodes to WAV. He is very happy with the sound quality.) -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Amp for Vandersteen?
I need an amp to connect my Squeezebox3 to my Vandersteen 2ce speakers. I've been using a 25 year old Onkyo 45W/channel receiver, but I think I can do better. Specs: 1. Not TOO expensive (student budget). 2. Buying something used is fine. 3. Nice to have feature (not a must): auto-on. 4. Hope to avoid a pre-amp (since I'm just connecting the SB). I tried the vaunted Sonic Super T-Amp, but it was manifestly not up to the task of driving the Vandersteens. What was I thinking? And if anyone wants a barely used Sonic Super T-Amp, lemme know! Thanks much for your advice. -- dukelaw dukelaw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Amp for Vandersteen?
I'm sure I'm going to get shot down by the audiophiles for saying this, but $/W, you may want to look into pro amps from Crown, QSC or Behringer. This is if you buy the amp is a straight wire with gain argument. The biggest drawback is that most of them are fan-cooled. There are fan mods though. Take a look at this massive thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=418666 Again, some here may not consider a pro amp audiophile sound, but it seems to work just fine for a whole lot of people there provided you can do something about the fan noise. If that doesn't suit your tastes, Outlaw Audio also make budget amps. 2 X 200W monoblocks would be good... --- dukelaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need an amp to connect my Squeezebox3 to my Vandersteen 2ce speakers. I've been using a 25 year old Onkyo 45W/channel receiver, but I think I can do better. Specs: 1. Not TOO expensive (student budget). 2. Buying something used is fine. 3. Nice to have feature (not a must): auto-on. 4. Hope to avoid a pre-amp (since I'm just connecting the SB). I tried the vaunted Sonic Super T-Amp, but it was manifestly not up to the task of driving the Vandersteens. What was I thinking? And if anyone wants a barely used Sonic Super T-Amp, lemme know! Thanks much for your advice. -- dukelaw dukelaw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC files breaking up
First, some stats: Squeezebox3 running Wireless Linksys WRT54G v1.1 Debian Ubuntu running a source install of SlimServer v6.2.2 Player Firmware Version: 29 Media Library: 200GB of FLAC files Average Stats: Control Connection : OK Streaming Connection : OK Player Signal Strength : Good, but Intermittent Drops Buffer Fullness: Low Server Response Time : OK Info: I was having problems with the 6.2.1 version: Squeezebox and server process locking up after about 10 minutes of play. So, I upgraded to 6.2.2 and then the latest firmware for the box and let a complete music library scan to occur. Now, there are no more complete lockups, but after about 5 minutes of play, there are audible dropouts while listening to both FLAC from SlimServer and MP3 streams on SqueezeNetwork. I rolled back to firmware v 28 and everything seems to be working fine (at least for the last 45 minutes). No dropouts. Now the Buffer fullness looks a lot better: 10 :0 : 0% 20 :0 : 0% 30 :0 : 0% 40 :0 : 0% 50 :0 : 0% 60 :0 : 0% 70 :0 : 0% 80 :0 : 0% 90 :0 : 0% 100 : 33 :100% ## =100 :0 : 0% max : 99.994628 min : 99.817562 avg : 99.931093 ive added this to the bugzilla bug. -- freqdafunk freqdafunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3916 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20949 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Amp for Vandersteen?
Vandersteens need a lot of juice. I am using a 270 wpc Pioneer SX-1980 to drive my 2Ce Signatures. I have heard that McCormack DNA-1 amps make a good match also. The McCormacks go for around $800 used on Audiogon. I don't think there's anything below that price that would do the Vandies justice. -- crooner crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Amp for Vandersteen?
I have an AudioSource Amp Two, which is not in production anymore, but can sometimes be found on eBay for as little as $100. It's 80W/ch, and has auto on, level controls for each channel, and line out, which is useful for hooking up a subwoofer. I run the SB3 directly into it using passive attenuators made by Scott Endler (Endler Audio). It's a great bargain. When I upgrade, which I eventually will, it will be probably be something from Parasound, like the Halo A23, but that's $850. There are also some Class D amplifier kits (e.g. Hypex), which are a good deal, but you need to do some DIY. Happy hunting! And, by the way, the best resources you can find are probably AudioReview and Audiogon, to look for bargains. -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21050 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
It's obvious to me what the problem is, you need the 'Clever Little Clock' (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue23/clock_nespa.htm). I have just installed one in my system and I must admit that difference was astounding. It was like a veil was lifted, all of my music just opened up. It was like night and day. OK, I admit, I'm being sarcastic. Your wav files sound exactly like your flac files. Now quit worrying and just enjoy your music. And don't even think about buying a $200 power cord either. It will not be able to help problems that don't exist any more that the 'Clever Little Clock' (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue23/clock_nespa.htm) will. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WAV vs. FLAC?
Thanks to everyone for replying. Bottom line: it's definitely psychological. I listened again and again, and you really can't tell the difference (because there isn't any). By default the Server compresses the WAVs to FLAC for transmission and then decompresses at the Player end - so in both cases FLACs hit the Player just the same. A difference I did experience, however, was by putting in a $13 Hosfelt Power Supply (incl. shipping). I simply cut off the plug from the stock PS and attached it to the Hosfelt (make sure you've got the polarity right if you try this). Small, but worthwhile, improvement. I'm running SlimServer 6.2.1 with Firmware 29. It all sounds quite nice. Impressive device, no doubt. -- MusicMonkey MusicMonkey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3875 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20995 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
