[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
Well Fredrick...you've managed to open more cans of worms than a major explosion in a worm-canning factory...in one post!. 1) why do you own the ridiculously expensive Audio Note? - did you audition it first? 2)Then either most people you know have substandard hearing (unlikely) or your system is not as resolving as you believe it to be. I think the SB3 sounds BETTER than many top-end CDP's via its digital i/f. 3) My wiring is very good so obviously my imagination must also be good. Let's try the converse argument - if you can't hear any improvement, your system (or ear/brain interface) must be defective... 4) Amongst many other things (too boring to discuss again) DB testing doesn't discriminate between better and different. Anyway, beyond entry-level all CDP's, DACs, amps are rather good these days...the two biggest audible impacts will be in changing speakers or applying room correction. Without RC you're not hearing anything like what the artist intended anyway, so no amount of tweaking cables or even major components will help. 5)Why would a bunch of speaker designers care about the SB? - surely to them its just another source. IF, as you assert, it's no different to a CDP (and I notice that you carefully avoid mentioning any specific examples) I can't imagine why they would be even remotely interested? I didn't mean to rant but posts along the lines of I'm right and the rest of you are deaf aren't very helpful. It's hardly a scientific argument... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
kanoot Wrote: I have been a headphone junkie for most of my life and the Sennheiser 650s are by-far the best sounding pair I have ever owned. And, yes, I have owned a few Grados. Just thought someone should lean toward the Sennheisers. I agree, the Sennheiser HD650 are very good headphones especially when used with a dedicated headphone amp such as Ray Samuels SR-71/HR-2 or Meier Audios Corda series. IMHO the Sennheiser headphones are not only more comfortable to wear over a long period of time than the Grado ones but they are also sonically superior. You should eventually consider a dedicated headphone amp since some of the standard headphone outputs on the audio equipment do not get too much attention in the overall equipment design. -- SuzieQ SuzieQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dual File Formats?
Check out this thread. I've been working on this on an off for a while now. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23070 I didn't get much of a response from the Dev Forum but that dosen't mean people aren't keen. Like i mention in the thread I don't have the know how to take this much further but if there is some intrest from other maybe the motivation will build... -- davegerke davegerke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=275 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
Again...the audiophile version of the Squeezebox, which will be sold through dealers, is due out in the not-too-distant future. I think this is a semi-open secret at this point. Salient items are a digital input, improved DAC, power supply,etc. I'm sure it will be in a sleek, sexy, metallic case, to help justify a far higher price point. So, I guess what I'm saying is this: before spending hundreds or thousands on mods, why not wait a few months? In the meantime, the SB3 alone can be quite satisfactory. You won't be pulling out hairs over poor sound quality. Much of this is subjective, of course, but there are those on this forum, inlcuding me (please, no flames, no comments about my non-revealing system, etc.), who have found the differences between the SB3 and a high quality external DAC and the SB3 alone to be minimal. Ditto for power supplies. The differences ARE there, to be sure, but the price per square foot, as it were, is at Manhattan levels. So...if Slim Devices, who are obviously a bunch of very smart, very savvy, and very competent people, come out with an audiophile friendly version, I think it would be worth checking out. Fewer boxes, nicer design, equal or less money. -- highdudgeon SB3, Lavry DA10, Sony DVP 555es, Bel Canto Pre2, Carver Sunfire, Rane DEQ60L, Harbeth Monitor 40s, ACI Force subs highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
Yes HD...you are probably right. Interesting times ahead! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
Maybe we need a Speculation and Rumors forum like they have over at AppleNova. (He says with a toothy grin.) -- ezkcdude SB3-Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz anti-cables-DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10 subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
opaqueice Wrote: What do you think of the Red Wine Audio mods? There was a thread (over at audiocircle maybe?) a while back comparing Bolder SB mods to RWA which concluded that the RWA mod sounded (slightly) better than the Bolder. Personally I would hesitate to buy a product from someone that markets such things as Bybee quantum purifiers, as Bolder does, but hey... FWIW the review was quite some time ago. The owner of both units (Zybar) has since sold his RWA SB. He has upgraded his power supply a couple of times and now has one with all silver wiring and 4) Bybee quantum purifiers inside ;-) He is using the SB2 from the digital output into a TacT preamp/EQ. His speakers are Salk HT-3s. He has Channel Islands D-200 mono-blocks and just received a BAT VK-500 amp. If you wish to hear about a couple of direct comparisons between RWA and BOLDER modded SBs with analog output mods, you can contact Double Ugly and cryotweaks at AC. Both have owned or own RWA analog modded and battery powered SB. Both have compared them to a BOLDER modded unit with BOLDER PS. -- Wayne1 Wayne1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
opaqueice Wrote: I'm guessing (from the name and location) you're from Bolder Cable? Would you care to comment on those Bybees? I know it's a bit off-topic for this thread, but this (from http://www.bybeetech.com/ourtech.asp) is pure nonsense (and I _do_ know what I'm talking about here). There simply ain't no such thing as quantum noise energy - and that sets off my snake oil alarm. I do not care to comment on how Mr. Bybee chooses to describe his product. I do know that they DO change the sound of circuits that they are used in. I happen to like the changes. So do a goodly number of folk who have tried them. Others do not. -- Wayne1 Wayne1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
It has nothing to do with how he chooses to describe his widgets. The fact is, and I can also speak here with a respectable background in physics, it is pure baloney. Of course, you are free to like what you hear. People also like Tice Clocks and Mpingo disks and all the rest. There was, too, that lovely Stereophile account of a simple test that amounted to placing a pizza box support, I think painted silver, on top of a CD player. Listeners, prompted to the magical quality of the tweak, loved what they heard. The power of psychology... -- highdudgeon SB3, Lavry DA10, Sony DVP 555es, Bel Canto Pre2, Carver Sunfire, Rane DEQ60L, Harbeth Monitor 40s, ACI Force subs highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
Anyone ever dissect one of these purifiers? I suppose at $150 (or whatever) a pop maybe not, but at least hook one up to a meter... I'll bet there's just some material in there with a bit of resistance, maybe some inductance - just enough to screw up the frequency response a bit and change the sound slightly (or maybe not, given the silver-pizza-box effect!). In any case, if I were selling (or re-selling) these things I'd be just a little bit catious. There are laws to protect people against fraud and false advertising. Irrespective of whether or not this thing improves sound, that description of how it functions might raise some eyebrows -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
