Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
gian;188349 Wrote: Hello, I know very little about electricity, so please forgive my silly questions. I have read that upgrading the power supply benefits the SB's sound. Now, just for curiosity sake, how can Volts have a sound? They're not silly, but you've combined two questions into one that's harder to answer. Volts may not have a sound, but you want mostly DC volts with little ripple and good regulation. Pure DC to the Squeezebox won't be the end of the road however, because there are separate supplies and regulators inside that have their own specs, likely to have more of an effect on the overall sound than the external supply. Would the original power supply sound better if hooked on a computer ups battery? You could try it. Mine is hooked to one now, but I didn't have trouble with interference before/after. I'll probably just put a surge protector like before. Also, aside from the fact that the SB's volume control is not recommended for audiophile listening, Isn't it? The transporter has three internal jumpers to set the output level, which could be thought of as having an analog volume control with three settings, e.g. 9,12,and 3 O'clock. Once the gains are somewhat matched it can then be more safely used as an audiophile volume control (without going too low on the scale). Using resistors as voltage dividers or jumpers in Transporter is less convenient that stepped attenuators, but unless I'm mistaken proves that the digital volume control is intended for audiophile use. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable not being able to use 100 on the Sb for critical listening, if for example that was 'loud loud' with my fixed attenuator setup and I needed to be a quiet audiophile. There is a very well done wiki here on connecting to a power amp which covers any safety issues, but you'll have to search. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 - Disabling power to analgue sections
Yes, done it all. I have a linear power supply with a super-regulator powering the 5V input. My concern is more the SB's other internal power supplies. -- plim plim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33636 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
Phil Leigh;188422 Wrote: As an aside, I'd rather use a Black Sabbath album from 1970 than a modern over-compressed piece of nonsense t assess audio quality. They were recorded using good quality gear and good engineering/mastering processes. As a general principle, I agree. But Black Sabbath's first album was recorded for just 600 quid, so the chances they were using a first class studio seems unlikely. (Mind you, it does sound good - probably because they did it so quick and avoided faffing about with loads of overdubs). And of course, if HiFi News were using the CD remaster of this album as their source, then that has been quite heavily compressed. (Album Replaygain for the remaster is -7.52dB). -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics
Nostromo;188350 Wrote: Interesting. Just to be clear, it was a blind test? No it wasn't, but if one can't hear the difference between SB with and without an external reasonably good DAC, maybe one should consider another hobby. I think measurements´, from among others Sterephile, backup my subjective opinions -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
Wilfred;188382 Wrote: Most people aren't scientists, and thus usually don't understand what it is. The main goal of science is do build a model of an observed phenomenon that can be used to predict its behavior under different conditions. Also, when someone bemoans the ignorance of 'science', it is often because they are reading stupidified reports by journalists. Burn-in and, another favorite, cryogenics, are real physical phenomena abused by the hucksters and their ignorant marks. For some truly wacky nonsense, check out this raving lunatic: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue30/belt.htm. For more fun one might go directly to the horse's mouth: http://www.belt.demon.co.uk Here is a free tip from this site: Align the slots in all screw heads so that the slots are parallel to the earth's surface. ALL screws - screws fastening light switches to the wall, screws fastening AC power sockets to the wall, screws fastening shelves to the wall etc. Listen to some music for a short time and then move any of the screw slots away from being parallel to the earth's surface and see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure !! http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
harmonic;188284 Wrote: Yes exactly tape connection in copenhagen vesterbro. The millennium wich is sensetic to placment wher placed on the floor we hooked it up with semicore dvd player cant remember wich one. Im giving the audio physics Avanti some serius thourgts. i have only heard my moddified tact millennium mk3 with my owen tempoary speakers that cost me 1000 dkr (system audio ) before the audio physics regards I was there yesterday picking up MF X-DACv8 for test. :) I supposed you used the TACT as DAC, is that correct? When auditioning the kW750, did you use the internal DAC of the DVD? The Avanti you be a huge improvement compared to any cheap SAs but there are some SAs that sound very good too, like the Explorer for instance. -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
Here is some more fun: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina64.htm Even Schrödinger's Cat gets involved in this one! -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
harmonic;188284 Wrote: Yes exactly tape connection in copenhagen vesterbro. The millennium wich is sensetic to placment wher placed on the floor we hooked it up with semicore dvd player cant remember wich one. Im giving the audio physics Avanti some serius thourgts. i have only heard my moddified tact millennium mk3 with my owen tempoary speakers that cost me 1000 dkr (system audio ) before the audio physics regards Which Calderas did you listen to? The current model or the previous one? Rgds -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
Read this to find out why Slimdevices doesn't freeze SB3 components before assembly or whole SB3s before shipping them: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/PWB/message/162 Any comments, Sean? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
Darn, I'm jealous of you, P! You keep doing these tweaks and keep having good results! I put in a Furutech FP15A (cu) receptacle a few weeks ago, and noticed absolutely no difference whatsoever :-( I do like the good grip of the Furutech though, that's an improvement. jan -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
P Floding;188440 Wrote: Which Calderas did you listen to? The current model or the previous one? Rgds Dont know but the shop i new so i ges its the newest model i must say the sounded awsome (with both amps) regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
jmourik;188444 Wrote: Darn, I'm jealous of you, P! You keep doing these tweaks and keep having good results! I put in a Furutech FP15A (cu) receptacle a few weeks ago, and noticed absolutely no difference whatsoever :-( I do like the good grip of the Furutech though, that's an improvement. jan Well, it could all be imaginary, I suppose. I'm generally sceptical about paying a lot for mains electricity connectors. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
johann;188268 Wrote: Sounds like you visited Tape Connection. Did you use the DVD player also for the MF? Hi sorry i missed the last bit NO we only used the shops dvd player on my tact millennium. the front end for the kw setup wher top line dac/transport from musical fidility regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
tyler_durden;188442 Wrote: Read this to find out why Slimdevices doesn't freeze SB3 components before assembly or whole SB3s before shipping them But wouldn't that be the same problem as bringing out a new model? You just ordered the sb3, and a month later the new and improved sb4 appears. Bummer... Or they could launch a SB3 Cryo, for $325? Dunno... -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
jmourik;188448 Wrote: But wouldn't that be the same problem as bringing out a new model? You just ordered the sb3, and a month later the new and improved sb4 appears. Bummer... Or they could launch a SB3 Cryo, for $325? Dunno... No, that would be different. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
johann;188435 Wrote: I was there yesterday picking up MF X-DACv8 for test. :) I supposed you used the TACT as DAC, is that correct? When auditioning the kW750, did you use the internal DAC of the DVD? The Avanti you be a huge improvement compared to any cheap SAs but there are some SAs that sound very good too, like the Explorer for instance. Hi The tact millennium is a powerd dac so we just connect a singelended digital cable to the dvd players -digital out-. The transporter when used as an dedikated transporet works wonders when connected directly to the millennium sound is so pure. A guitar really sounds like a guitar and so on . Before i had 2 lyngdorf tda2200 amps lyngdorf cd-1 and roomperfect roomcorrection w210 corner subs gamut l3 speakers hydra 8 with all anaconda vx cables special platforms and vertex aq cabels . I gladly sold it all and bourgt a tact milennium mk3 had that completly moddified then a Transporter wich also is moddified and system audio 99 as tempoary speakers wich basicly is the cheapes worst speaker system ever made. What puzzels me is that the sound in my room with that gear sounds alot better then my former references system ever sounded . and thats with the cheap speakers stock cabels no roomcorrection no nothing .wonder will happen when i get the cremonas; ) The Transporter have alot to do with this fantastic sound its so musical. I would really had liked to demo the calendras again but this time with the transporter as sourch. regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
P Floding;188449 Wrote: I'm generally sceptical about paying a lot for mains electricity connectors. Me too, that's why I went for the $40 one... Of course now I wonder if the $70 Oyaide would have made a difference... -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
harmonic;188445 Wrote: Dont know but the shop i new so i ges its the newest model i must say the sounded awsome (with both amps) regards ok, I have the previous model of the Calderas. Bit too big for my room though, so not in use at the moment. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
jmourik;188448 Wrote: But wouldn't that be the same problem as bringing out a new model? You just ordered the sb3, and a month later the new and improved sb4 appears. Bummer... Or they could launch a SB3 Cryo, for $325? I think you fell into Tyler's tongue-in-cheek trap. OTOH either that link was poorly written, or I'm not very good at comprehension. The hypothetical manufacturing scenario was well thought out, but I failed to make the connection. The last paragraph* doesn't seem to fit with the rest, but having read it a few times I'm not really sure what the intent was... ... * If members of the audio industry had been seriously interested in investigating the freezing technique further after Robert Harley's article, perhaps now, some 10 years later, more people than Peter Belt would have had to come to the conclusion that the beneficial effect of freezing has nothing to do with `affecting the audio signal' - that there is something else `going on'. This realisation only comes about when one realises that freezing something which could not, by any stretch of the imagination, be associated with the audio system and yet one can obtain a similar beneficial effect on the `sound' !!! ... I would hope that by 'going on' s/he means psychological expectation, but who knows? -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
jmourik;188454 Wrote: Me too, that's why I went for the $40 one... Of course now I wonder if the $70 Oyaide would have made a difference... In my book $40 is a lot! I think contact cleaning would do just as well or better than special contacs. It's only metal after all. This is what I got, Superswitch unswitched, ironically: http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=A441565ts=50002id=75828 About $4. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
If you didn't get the expected results, it is because you were either too ignorant or too cheap to spring for a set of these: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina44.htm TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 - Disabling power to analgue sections
Ah ha, sorry don't know about the insides, but I do believe there is a schematic of the cct board, floating about somewhere. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33636 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
At least we haven't (yet) suffered May Belt hopping on this forum and pushing her husbands ideas. On the stereophile forum she has gone on and on with her obfuscating arguments designed to conceal the snake oil. Spare us that here please. They are some serious loony tunes :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
tyler_durden;188469 Wrote: If you didn't get the expected results, it is because you were either too ignorant or too cheap to spring for a set of these: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina44.htm TD LOL Ha Ha Ha - best snake oil yet... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
I just want to make it clear that the Tom endorsing the true tone covers is NOT me! If I ever do something that wacky please commit me to the mental hospital of your choice. Probably the one where May and Peter Belt reside :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
P Floding;188463 Wrote: ok, I have the previous model of the Calderas. Bit too big for my room though, so not in use at the moment. The ones i heard where the ones with the ringradiator tweeter from scanspeak in the middel of another driver. The sounded huge even in that very large room(maybe 80 sq meter) the also go very deep. But the sure sounded fantastic but one thing i dont like and thats the side fireing bass units somehow it dossent sound right compared to front fireing drivers. Next speaker evalation will be the Sonus faber amati anniverasrio regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
tyler_durden;188469 Wrote: If you didn't get the expected results, it is because you were either too ignorant or too cheap to spring for a set of these: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina44.htm TD Those are cheapo and must therefor suck. Try these: http://www.cryo-parts.com/oyaidewpcxxx.html -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
tyler_durden;188469 Wrote: If you didn't get the expected results, it is because you were either too ignorant or too cheap to spring for a set of these: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina44.htm TD He he.. And the same site sells the CD treatment Intelligent Box and Intelligent Card. I guess they are intelligent compared to the purchasers.. How about this one: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm Seems the jokes never end on this kind of sites. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
tomjtx;188473 Wrote: At least we haven't (yet) suffered May Belt hopping on this forum and pushing her husbands ideas. On the stereophile forum she has gone on and on with her obfuscating arguments designed to conceal the snake oil. Spare us that here please. They are some serious loony tunes :-) I wouldn't mind the Belts coming over here. I might even change my signature to _promote_ ABX if that happens! -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics
Mind you, I tend to think that there should be perveivable differences between the two. But I've been reading the Audio Critic lately. For example, they claim in issue no.24 that all CD players sound the same: As long as they meet the fairly exacting specifications expected these days - and most of them do - they will sound the same, regardless of price. That does not mean, of course that some are not far superior in measured performance (well below the treshold of audibility) and construction quality. I'm not sure if that's true or not. I admit, I'm somewhat sceptical. But if their claim is backed by facts, and if the blind tests were methodologically sound, then the case is closed: all CD players do sound the same. At this point, I can't help but ask myself: Does the Transporter sound really different than the Squeezebox? -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Battery for SB3?
Greetings: Since Vinnie/Red Wine isn't doing battery mods any more, are there any simple (plug-n-play?) ways to run an SB3 through a battery? I'd like to play my unit, while listening to headphones, when I'm sitting outside on the patio. Thanks, Ed -- stlblue stlblue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7688 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33705 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
