Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
opaqueice;239218 Wrote: Are you actually serious? Irony is hard to detect over the internet, but I'm not sensing any at all here. Quite serious you've used all their products ? I've had the opportunity to try several and although some were found to have no effect ..which only means they didn't work in my system others were interesting to say the least, and I would not write them off. I hope you've been able to take up their free trail offers then at least you you can talk with a modicum of hands on experience too. I have no explanation as to why some work and some not, in case you ask... -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
lets assume you didn't like the direction the thread was going from your replies. I used the simple expedient of clamping the sb3 by its rear foot to a vibration sink made from a sheet of 18mm mdf 6mm rubber sheet and a 6mm granite placemat with felt feet. Yes it makes the unit sound better by a small but obvious ammount more a question of resolution than out right more bass or treble. As to why this should work my guess is that its stopping vibration getting in rather than getting rid of vibs produced by the sb3. Oh you don't have to take my word you could always try it ! -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
zanash;24 Wrote: Quite serious you've used all their products ? Of course I haven't - are you serious??? Oh wait - I already asked you that... I like this one: the Best Proof of Audio Placebo Wrote: Aligning the slots in screw heads. Align the slots in all screw heads so that the slots are parallel to the earth's surface. ALL screws - screws fastening light switches to the wall, screws fastening AC power sockets to the wall, screws fastening shelves to the wall etc. Listen to some music for a short time and then move any of the screw slots away from being parallel to the earth's surface and see if you can listen to the same music with the same pleasure !! What about the screws in your head? They might need some tightening... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz or Behringer DEQ2496?
I've heard the TACT system and own a Behringer. I feel that both have negative impact on the signal, despite processing only a digital signal. I'd assume that Inguz is less intrusive, but has anyone compared the sound with it in and out of use? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40023 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New to Transporter
Fifer;240836 Wrote: Not if you use squeezenetwork. For RealAudio stations you will still need a PC/NAS to run AlienBBC and transcode them. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40010 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz or Behringer DEQ2496?
interesting ...the only time I heard tact ..it sound ...well just sort of processed ...even set to bypass it seemed to divest the music of some life. I expect that the unit was not correctly calibrated [though it had been dealer installed]. I've used the deq ...just feed it via the digital input and do the correction by hand rather than letting the units limited brain do it. you can get some extremely good results from it ...in fact you can get anything near for even double the cost. You also get a reasonable dac ...not great but adequate. the deq will respond to some mods too if you have the courage to tackle the fragile pcb's -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40023 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New to Transporter
Fair point. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40010 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
So, if used with an extrenal DAC, you should not gain much in the digital transmission (and thereby in sound quality)? Bj -- Polarbear Polarbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
Aligning the slots in screw heads. Align the slots in all screw heads so that the slots are parallel to the earth's surface. I've used posidrives for some shelves. Which axis should I align? Does anyone stock polarised versions? -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
It is transformer coupled. Have a look here: http://photos.lam.ws/gallery/1930618/3/98133932/Large -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
Polarbear;241154 Wrote: Thanks Wombat That's why people prefer the Transporter. Cheers Bj Not exactly. I love it as my digital preamp with 2 displays and wonderful DAC :) You build that receiver from Jocko Homo yourself? -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
Thanks Wombat That's why people prefer the Transporter. I have transformer coupled my SB. And also added some padding resistors. Makes a nice difference. Combined with the SPDIF reciever from Jocko Homo it's a nice combo. No need for Transporter then. Cheers Bj -- Polarbear Polarbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz or Behringer DEQ2496?
Mr_Sukebe;241131 Wrote: I've heard the TACT system and own a Behringer. I feel that both have negative impact on the signal, despite processing only a digital signal. I'd assume that Inguz is less intrusive, but has anyone compared the sound with it in and out of use? Well, I personnally feel that the use of Inguz (in my system) as a negative impact on the sound. It does reduce the gain, but even when I compensate that in the analog domain (at the preamp stage) the overall result is not as good (even without applying any room correction or EQ) compared to a straigth WAV streaming. Lacks of dynamics, loss of micro-informations and musicality. But, on some music, what it brings in postive (in particular in the bass and in clarity of the voices) far over-compensates the negative impact... -- Chinanico CEC TL51X / SB3 Audiomat Maestro Jeff Rowland Concentra 2 System Audio SA2K Chinanico's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12794 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40023 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume regulation of transporter?
My Modwright Transporter's DAC was indeed overdriving the tube stage. Dan fixed the design gaff in my player (he had been listening and voicing with digital volume down somewhat, accidentally, and didn't realize a couple of output measurements were off, relative to DAC output) and has overnighted it back. My ears do work!! -- ted_b ted_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39611 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Note black Wii, Sky+ soon to be swapped for Sky HD, then new DVD player/recorder (yes, in black) Here's a link as it won't let me attach! http://xorro.xpmg.co.uk/tech/av/black_wii_10.jpg -- Xorro Black/Black SB3 | SS 6.5.2 | Vista Home Premium http://xorro.xpmg.co.uk Xorro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
Polarbear;241181 Wrote: I meant that people prefer it when used with an external DAC :) I built the SPDIF reciever myself yes. It's located inside a Behringer DCX2496. Cheers Bj Nice. Just shortly i found a link about somebody cancelling the whole exit and simply uses a passive output on this Behringer on the AKM DAC. http://www.dcx2496.fr/en/tweakanalog2.php Can´t say anything about it but you may be interested. Cheers! -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
I meant that people prefer it when used with an external DAC :) I built the SPDIF reciever myself yes. It's located inside a Behringer DCX2496. Cheers Bj -- Polarbear Polarbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
Please help me out here. I just paid $1800 for a Transporter and Denon has two machines for under $2,500 that do more. I'm new to this stuff and I'm upgrading everything. I added Tetra speakers this summer and trying to continue upgrading but this one throws me. I love Logitech products and have been involved with computers since the mid 80's. Please help me figure this out if possible. Am I missing something or should I sell my Transporter and buy a Denon? Gene -- Gene Zalar Gene Zalar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] welborne power supply for sale
sold. thanx -- ratso THE ULTIMATE 2 CH. BUDGET SYSTEM? EMOTIVA BPA-1 MONOBLOCKS x4 BOLDER ANALOG MOD SB3 CHANNEL ISLANDS: VDC-SB SQUEEZEBOX POWER SUPPLY VAC-1 POWER SUPPLY VHP-2 HEADPHONE AMP (AS PREAMP) VPC-3 PASSIVE CONTROLLER GALLO REF. 3.1 MONSTER CABLE POWER CONDITIONER BLUE JEANS CABLES, ALO CABLES ***APPROX. $6000.00!!!*** ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39941 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
I got my SB3 pretty stable, but therapists are expensive. Since my SB3 stopped going to it's sessions it has gotten worse -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
Yes, I have used the passive out for quite some time. Just a second order filter after the AKM dac's. I have also new clock and new PSU for the dac's. These tweak's makes the behringer a very nice unit. Next up is to replace the sample rate converter (CS8420) with a better one. The 8420 gets the hikkup now and then, and passes on a distorted signal. Sounds like putting a blanket over the speakers :) http://www.dcx2496.fr/en/news_en.php I bet you can do the passive out in the transporter. But what comes after the transporter? Should have fairly large impedance to make the DAC's see a nice load. My pre is 47k and it works nicely. Cheers. b -- Polarbear Polarbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
It'd help if you were more specific about what Denon gear you're talking about. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
netim3;237598 Wrote: You're missing the point - Linn have adopted UPnP - a completely open standard. So everything needed to do this is in the public domain. That might be true for control over a preamp, but having the preamp itself manage a datastream from a server and convert it would most probably be adding extra functionality, not just connectivity. However, that might be a way for me to get rid of my remotes completely and just use the web to control both my Exotik and Transporter. -- wdaher wdaher's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13681 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
You are comparing a music streamer (Transporter) that has minimial receiver-like functions with an AV receiver (Denon) that happens to have some minimal music-streamer-like functions. It's not a meaningful either/or comparison. I would suggest getting the right receiver for your needs, ignoring any network streaming functions they might have, because, not to put too fine a point on it, they all rather suck at it. By the same token, if you need the functions of a true surround AV receiver, you can discount Transporter's ability to function as a multi-input DAC, because it's really not meant to be a receiver for your DVD player, satellite, etc. Transporter's inputs are intended for using it as a high-end DAC in a 2-channel system. Long story short: get the right receiver and then, if cost constrained, go ahead and downgrade Transporter to an SB3 if you want. But you will be very sad if you go to only having the Denon's built-in streaming. PS: as a receiver I think the Denon's specs look quite good, and in fact I would have gone with one in my own system except that my cabinets were too shallow. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stabilizing the SB3
Hay Zanash, did you glue the mdf/rubber/grannet together or just rest them on top of each other, and did you help weight down your SB in any way or just clamp the rear, Oh, and have you tried your platform under the psu ? OP ! if you have a linear/separate psu try the sorbothane under there too. I found the sorbothane gave something and took something away under my SB, and its psu, But, under the power amp :D I would not say the differences were huge in my case, but noticable to a fussy ear :0 -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Digital out
Polarbear;241235 Wrote: Yes, I have used the passive out for quite some time. Just a second order filter after the AKM dac's. I have also new clock and new PSU for the dac's. These tweak's makes the behringer a very nice unit. Next up is to replace the sample rate converter (CS8420) with a better one. The 8420 gets the hikkup now and then, and passes on a distorted signal. Sounds like putting a blanket over the speakers :) http://www.dcx2496.fr/en/news_en.php I bet you can do the passive out in the transporter. But what comes after the transporter? Should have fairly large impedance to make the DAC's see a nice load. My pre is 47k and it works nicely. Cheers. b hehe Seems like you are a modder :) Me already thinks about adding a second RCA passive output. My amps are somewere int the 30ks if i remember right and the 4396 can deliver good current. I may start a thread in the DIY section when winter holidays come in. At least one member i know now that may help me with this. Cheers! -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39885 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
seanadams;241301 Wrote: PS: as a receiver I think the Denon's specs look quite good, and in fact I would have gone with one in my own system except that my cabinets were too shallow. Sean, methinks you can afford to buy new cabinets g. In fact, you should've been at RMAF (Rocky Mountain Audio Fest), checking out the high-end gear, and burgeoning server market. Hopefully next year! -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. blue jeans cables. sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
sleepysurf;241307 Wrote: Sean, methinks you can afford to buy new cabinets g. Mecan, except they're part of mehouse! -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
Time to build melistening room! -- sleepysurf squeezebox2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. blue jeans cables. sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs. Denon's new WiFi line
CD player, 20W amplifier, 4 speakers, iPod dock, internet and FM radio, wi-fi music streamer, FLAC playback, Analog Devices Blackfin chipset. +---+ |Filename: denon-smart-s-52dab-all-in-one-hi-fi-system-jpg-289-75.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3649| +---+ -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
