Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I am torn...
pfarrell;489589 Wrote: empty99 wrote: It used to take a fair amount of money to get a good quality ADC, but now there are lots of them. Do you have some suggestions for combination ADC / DAC devices for $ 200 or less? (PCI or USB devices) I want to use this device for measurements as well as listening so the ADC matters. (I'm interested in a low s/n level and good driver s/w for a Win XP environment.) Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71841 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ALAC or FLAC
I am using iTunes and sometime use FF and RW, so I decided to convert all my music from ALAC to AIFF. It worked fine with SqueezCenter 7.3.3. Now I upgrade to OSX 10.6.2 and SqueezCenter no longer works, so I upgrade to 7.4.1. Well, problem comes. At the end of every song I played with my Transporter, there is a pop sound. I tested ALAC files and MP3 with no problem. How do I understand this? -- vincentyan vincentyan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ALAC or FLAC
atrocity;490569 Wrote: The amount of streaming data will be the same, but ALAC takes up a bit more disk space for stereo files and a *lot* more disk space for mono material. FLAC seems to do a better job of compressing data that's the same in both channels. Or at least this was true when I was doing some quick 'n' dirty tests a year or so back. Thanks, I ran a few tests of my own, I found the difference in file size is negligible as yet I have no Mono CD's so unable to test this. Whilst AIFF is an option, running wireless and now have three players keeping the files small is probably a priority for me. -- shevans SB 3, NVA P90sa passive pre-amp, NVA A40 monoblock's, Fostex FE206E based big purple people eaters! shevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
Hi All I have recently purchased a Transporter and it is fantastic. My only concern is that it makes, what appears to be, mechanical sounds when it operates. Is this the case for other owners? I want to make sure that this wonderful machine is around for a long time. Many thanks for replies Neil -- badlyread badlyread's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ALAC or FLAC
I'm afraid I can't answer the specific question, but I can say that your use of SC is very close (very close indeed) to mine, but that I've had no problems whatever with 7.3.3 under Snow Leopard. I too use iTunes and AIFF for all SB music, with ALAC for files used with large iPods (Mk 4 80Gb) and AAC at 256kbps for small iPods (latest and previous gen Nanos and iPod Touch). I've just moved from OSX 10.4.11 to 10.6.2 with no problems at all relating to SqueezeCenter. I have not moved from SC 7.3.3 (and after all the reports of problems feel no temptation to do so). 7.3.3 works just fine with all the AIFF files under 10.6.2 on my set up. I'd suggest that there's something else going on here. The only differences that I can see between your usage and mine appear to be (1) you use a TP, I use a Classic and (2) almost all my files were ripped directly into AIFF, then transcoded where needed into ALAC, not the other way round. These may be more red herrings, of course. On 30 Nov 2009, at 11:14, vincentyan wrote: I am using iTunes and sometime use FF and RW, so I decided to convert all my music from ALAC to AIFF. It worked fine with SqueezCenter 7.3.3. Now I upgrade to OSX 10.6.2 and SqueezCenter no longer works, so I upgrade to 7.4.1. Well, problem comes. At the end of every song I played with my Transporter, there is a pop sound. I tested ALAC files and MP3 with no problem. How do I understand this? -- vincentyan vincentyan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] best internet station sound quality?
rabbit;488549 Wrote: Go to Shoutcast and use their search function and click on the broadband button and you will see stations that are streaming at reasonably high bitrates. Quite a few at 192kb or better but it all depends on your taste in music :-) http://www.shoutcast.com/# You can also set a bitrate limit in ShoutCast using SBS or MySB or your SB player. Just go to the ShoutCast menu item and look for Settings Bitrate Filtering -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71701 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
badlyread;490760 Wrote: Hi All I have recently purchased a Transporter and it is fantastic. My only concern is that it makes, what appears to be, mechanical sounds when it operates. Is this the case for other owners? I want to make sure that this wonderful machine is around for a long time. Many thanks for replies Neil I have noticed the same with mine. A kind of clicking sound. Also a brand new Transporter (1 month) -- callesoroe Callesoroe SB-duet, Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma AMPs(2 pieces BIAMP) callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
Hi Callesoroe, That's it! A 'clicking' and the occasional 'bb' like something mechanical is happening inside! I thought there were no moving parts? -- badlyread badlyread's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
There are two noises that the Transporter makes. #1: There is an automatic relay that is used to detect line voltage for the linear power regulators. They should only click when it starts up or reboots. #2: The rotary knob is magnetic, and needs to degauss from time to time. It should be fairly quiet, but still noticeable. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
SuperQ;490783 Wrote: There are two noises that the Transporter makes. #1: There is an automatic relay that is used to detect line voltage for the linear power regulators. They should only click when it starts up or reboots. #2: The rotary knob is magnetic, and needs to degauss from time to time. It should be fairly quiet, but still noticeable. It must be number #2I hope -- callesoroe Callesoroe SB-duet, Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma AMPs(2 pieces BIAMP) callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
The way you (both) describe it points to the degaussing (I used to call it 'rattle'). QUite some time ago (1,5 - 2 years?) there was a bug that caused it to degauss quite often. That's solved now, so it should not occur very often. Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
I'm currently feeding my Linn Unidisk SC a steady stream of flac files via toslink, and it works fine. The performance is - to my ears - on par with playing the original disks in the Unidisk. As an aside, a second squeezebox feeds an analog signal to an older Rotel/BW set-up in the kitchen/dining room, and that works fine too. Seeing all the recent reviews of DAC's with asymmetric (apodizing) filters - like Ayre and Meridian - and hearing the new Linn DS units makes me think there's still potential room for improvement. So, as a poll, what kind of outboard DAC do you use with your squeezeboxes? Secondly, has anyone switched from 'my' setup to something else, and had an increase in performance? If so, what did you try? Thanks, JBC -- jbc jbc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11473 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Noise
Had the same issue with my first transporter. Rattling and regular clicking (every time menu was at last entry). Logitech replaced this first unit. The second one i got was perfect quiet, no noise at all. The second unit suddenly stopped working, no display, no responding. My dealer send this also back to logitech, but they did not replace it. I only got the money back. With this experiences in the past I will go with a SB3 + external DAC. I don´t know, why Logitech did not replace the second unit, but rumors say Transporter has reached end of lifecycle... -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72006 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
Why are you people discussing a non-Slim Devices product on their forum? If you want to know how it works, you could just ask. But this is not the time or place to do so. If you want to talk about SPDIF BW and return loss requirements, then I am probably the guy to ask. But no one did. I don't get it. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
ar-t;490860 Wrote: Why are you people discussing a non-Slim Devices product on their forum? If you want to know how it works, you could just ask. But this is not the time or place to do so. If you want to talk about SPDIF BW and return loss requirements, then I am probably the guy to ask. But no one did. I don't get it. Pat Where is _your_ forum located? -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
pfarrell;486011 Wrote: (starting a new thread) Er, SPDIF is done, but its not the end of the world. SP/DIF was designed by Sony and Philips defined it as a inexpensive consumer interface. No, it was originally designed to be used as a test port during manufacture. The marketing guys are the ones who probably had the idea to make it a consumer interface. (That is why it stinks as an interface: it wasn't really intended to be one.) Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
Phil Leigh;487875 Wrote: I don't have the expensive equipment to measure this... and it will be cable/DAC dependant. I'm sure Pat from A.R.T. would have a view... It's generally a good idea to use a long s/pdif cable (but not too long) to avoid reflections messing with the transition timings. What difference this makes depends on the DAC. It is AR-T, thank you. I think there is a company called A.R.T. but I don't know them. Yes, it does make a difference, depending on the DAC. What is too long? And why? Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
ar-t;490862 Wrote: No, it was originally designed to be used as a test port during manufacture. The marketing guys are the ones who probably had the idea to make it a consumer interface. (That is why it stinks as an interface: it wasn't really intended to be one.) Pat ar-t;490860 Wrote: Why are you people discussing a non-Slim Devices product on their forum? If you want to know how it works, you could just ask. But this is not the time or place to do so. If you want to talk about SPDIF BW and return loss requirements, then I am probably the guy to ask. But no one did. I don't get it. Pat Perhaps you should add this information to _your_ forum and correct the wiki located at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF And the Hardware Book here: http://www.hardwarebook.info/S/PDIF TC Electronics and Tanoy here: http://tcsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/tcsupport.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1305p_created=1067521162p_topview=1 And even PS Audio here: http://www.psaudio.com/ps/wiki/SPDIF/ BTW, if we can't discuss here, where exactly is your forum? -- kphinney -I like it, you may not. I understand and respect that.- kphinney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
JohnSwenson;489215 Wrote: I don't have Sean's scope but I have been measuring jitter indirectly using a spectrum analyzer on the clock (not the audio out, but the clock itself). This is quite sensitive to changes in jitter, you can see spectrum changes going through gates as Sean mentioned and its also very good for looking at a recovered clock coming out of an S/PDIF receiver. I can easily see the difference that different connectors and cables make in the recovered clock. What it doesn't give you is a single number, you have to interpret the spectrum. Different types of spectrum that have the same ps number can sound very different, which is why I prefer to use this method rather than the direct time measurement. (well the real reason is that I have a good spectrum analyzer and I don't have a really good time domain jitter analyzer and very little chance of getting enough money to buy one!) John S. Thank you! How many forums have I posted this on, for how many years? Jitter, as a number, all alone, is pretty useless. First off, you have to know whether you are talking about bit-clock rate, word-clock rate, or what frequency. A good number at word-clock rate would be awful at bit-clock rate. And then you need to frequency content, as well. Without that, the numbers mean virtually nothing. Looking a jitter on a spectrum analyzer is possible, but only if it is pretty gross. Which it will be in the case of the bit-clock in a SPDIF RX circuit. (That is why folks either use a ASRC or a secondary PLL.) Yes, you can see a difference in connectors and such. A really clean source, such as the clock in a certain product that is not made by Logitech/Slim Devices, can not be measured in that manner. No one here, other than you-know-who, has the ability to measure it. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
kphinney;490870 Wrote: Perhaps you should add this information to _your_ forum and correct the wiki located at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF And the Hardware Book here: http://www.hardwarebook.info/S/PDIF TC Electronics and Tanoy here: http://tcsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/tcsupport.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1305p_created=1067521162p_topview=1 And even PS Audio here: http://www.psaudio.com/ps/wiki/SPDIF/ BTW, if we can't discuss here, where exactly is your forum? We don't have a forum. Our product is discussed at other audiophile-related forums. (The only one that I follow is on Audio Circle. There are others, but I tend to avoid those places.) I don't think that discussing it here is appropriate, as one could say that it competes with the Duet et al. The folks who make those products might not appreciate it. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
ar-t;490868 Wrote: It is AR-T, thank you. I think there is a company called A.R.T. but I don't know them. Yes, it does make a difference, depending on the DAC. What is too long? And why? Pat Pat - Apologies, I was typing from memory. At least I got the letters correct! Too long might be say 10-20m (depending on the quality of the cable) - I've had problems in the studio with s/pdif cables that long. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
Currently using a Benchmark DAC into my Modwright pre. I'm quite happy with it, but would love to demo the Berkeley Audio DAC or Weiss DAC2/Minerva just for kicks. -- sleepysurf main system: sb2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac-1 modwright swl 9.0se c-j premier 350 ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of 'the tampa bay listening society' (http://www.thetbls.com/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
I have a Transporter, 2 Squeezebox Classics and one Squeezebox Receiver. The Transporter uses the internal DAC One Squeezebox Classic uses the internal DAC of my Marantz home theater receiver and sounds great. The other Squeezebox Classic and the Squeezebox Receiver use the internal DACs in my two Headroom Desktop amps. One of these Headroom Desktop amps has Headrom's Max DAC in it and the other has the plain vanilla Desktop DAC in it. Both setups sound very nice. I'm looking forward to picking up a Touch once they are finally released since all of my external DACs (the Marantz and both Headroom units) will work with a 24bit/96kHz digital input. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SPDIF is evil
Ah.but that is AES/EBU, right? I have coax cables that are longer than that in use. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71464 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
Northstar192, Caiman or the Denon's 3808 internal dac. Depending on my mood. Caiman most of the time these days. All good (or recent) dacs sound quite similar, to be honest. -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How can I stream this?
I have a solution for Windows which works fine for me. I don't really know how it works but it does. [1] Get executable mplayer.exe somewhere on the internet and put in in your bin folder (...\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread) [2] Create a custom-convert.conf file with the following lines and put it in your server folder (...\Squeezebox\server) Code: #enables live FLAC streams coming in an OGG container flc flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 512 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --ignore-chunk-sizes - ogg flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 512 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --ignore-chunk-sizes - [3] Disable natvie OGG Vorbis support under Settings/Advanced/File Types [4] Restart Squeezebox Server and tune in url http://amp1.cesnet.cz:8000/cro-d-dur.flac -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
Thanks for the replies. So far, the two 'DAC's' that I've heard that I've been impressed with are the Linn DS units (not cheap!) and the Ayre C5Xe-MP. Maybe there isn't a cheaper way to get equivalent sound. Thanks, JBC -- jbc jbc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11473 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
jbc;490960 Wrote: Maybe there isn't a cheaper way to get equivalent sound. Plenty imho. I advice you not to spend more than 300$ on a recent, new dac. Also, don't buy a second-hand dac that was made before year 2000, except if you know what you're doing. ;) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Cyrus 8xp - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
When using my Transporter, I use the internal DAC and the XLR Balanced outs. Most of my Squeezeboxes use their internal DACs. I feed an SB3 Toslink digital link to an Adcom GFR-700HD and it sound fairly good. I feed a Dodson DA-217 MK2-D Digital Processor from either an SB3 or my Transporter Coax S/PDIF. This is a killer combination and sounds terrific (bit of over kill in my opinion and would not do it if I didn't already own the Dodson DA-217 MK2-D Digital Processor). The Dodson is the DAC that I used with my Esoteric CD Transport which I no longer need and have sold. My only recommendation would be to use the Coax S/PDIF instead of the Toslink if you are looking for audio improvement. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
I have the Weiss Minerva. A Media Smart server feeds 176k FLAC and WAV files to a Transporter via hardware, then from the Transporter to the Minerva over AES/EBU. The Minerva output is balanced analog. Best sound I have ever had. I can also use my OPPO as a transport sending digital to the Minerva. -- thestewman thestewman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How can I stream this?
The URL you posted is a m3u ( playlist ext ). I did not think the traansporter could play playlists. Am I wrong ? -- thestewman thestewman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31082 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How can I stream this?
thestewman;490983 Wrote: Am I wrong ? Yes, you are. ;) I just found out that if you use the link with the extension .m3u instead of the one ending with .flac you just need to put the lines below into your custom-convert.conf and you can set OGG Vorbis support back to native again. Thanks for pointing this out! Like this it's much more elegant. Code: #enables live FLAC streams coming in an OGG container flc flc * * # R [mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -cache 512 -af volume=0,channels=2 -ao pcm:file=#PIPE# $FILE$ | [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 --ignore-chunk-sizes - -- Quad Quad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
Another Caiman owner here and very pleased with it: Arcam A85, SB3, Beresford Caiman DAC, Van Damme LCOFC cable, PMC FB1+ Simon -- ashmore ashmore's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
I don't as I feed straight into active speakers with in-built dacs, but I do have a friend who's just bought a Caiman and he's over the moon with it. -- Jezf1000 LP12, Rega Saturn, Mac/Edirol UA25 linked to Naim/Avondale amps Shahinian Compasses a SB Duet feeding a pair of AVI ADM9.1's. Jezf1000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What outboard DAC do you use with Squeezebox?
I have a Transporter along with 4 Classic 3's. I run the Transporter sans external DAC almost exclusively. I run all of my Classic's with external DAC's. Universal Audio 2192 in my main rig, Lite Audio DAC 60 in my office, a Sonic Frontiers UltraJitterbug + Roksan DA1 DAC w/ DS4 PS in rec room and the last in my bedroom is a Beresford 7510 mk 6.4 for headphone use. -- Pneumonic Main: Transporter Squeezebox 3 Universal Audio 2192 Macbook Pro Amarra Metric Halo ULN2 Modwright Sony SCD 777ES Sonic Frontiers SFL-2 Preamp Quicksilver Silver 90 Mono Power amps Martin Logan CLS IIa Speakers Office: Squeezebox 3 Lite Audio DAC60 Muse Model One Preamp Quicksilver 8417 Mono Power amps Vandersteen 2Ci Speakers Pneumonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10091 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72018 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The end of the CD player :-)
bhaagensen;490472 Wrote: ... Personally I hope and believe that download-based services is only a pitstop on the way to streaming-based services such as Rhapsody. What is missing are things like quality, open api's, better library management, reliability, liner notes etc. But in the end such systems with stateless clients is IMO the future; just look at Google OS :) I agree with everything you say. I would love the ability to download music in lossless format, and online shops could make quite a bit of revenue from someone like me who'd be very willing to pay for the upgrade service from 256kbit/s MP3 (which is the best Amazon offers) to FLAC. So I absolutely agree that liner notes and quality are still an issue for the smooth jazz collectionist. Deutsche Grammophon however has it pat down - they offer FLAC and high quality liner notes. And the convenience of the download is unbeatable. I also agree that the future will mean keeping my collection in the cloud, that is, not having to even host it on a home server. We basically just buy usage rights and the stuff is always available online, or is always available online lossless, and when I dowmload or stream it to different clients it will do so based on policies that depend on usage rights and personal preference. ...pablo -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet, Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71619 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
