Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Maybe also Lintweaker's script on page 6 can be used to detect then set the jive alsa priority based on its resultant process id as the other IRQs change and the spdif priority is set. -- alec_cat alec_cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I've not tested this so would be grateful if someone could review the syntax but it should work to insert at the end of the rcS file: jalsa=`ps -C jive_alsa -o pid=` chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa -- alec_cat alec_cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
As well as shielded cables, one of the bug bears of many an audiophile in the UK is the plug fuse and it's dodgy connection in many plugs. One way around the problem is to get a multiple outlet strip like this http://www.biagmbh.com/katalog/pdfs/77/7735.pdf (there are plenty for sale on ebay, just search for 'IEC distribution' but I know the one I've linked to is a well made unit). Internally it uses 5mm xsection solid copper soldered to the outlet connetions. You can bypass the funky fuse in the unit (it's there for the USA as they don't have fuses in their plugs) and if you want to you can solder your supply cable direct onto the copper supply rails rather than using the first socket for the supply. Make up your own cables using good quality shielded cable and IEC plug and sockets (Schurter or Kaiser ones are good) and you're good to go. You then only have 1 fuse in the plug that goes to the mains rather than a fuse in a plug for every piece of equipment. Much better than trying to get BIG cables into one of the hydra type plugs and you've eliminated the vast majority of the fuses. As usual with electricity, if you don't know what your doing don't even try as electricity can kill! -- killie99 Musical Fidelity KW250S, Impulse H2 speakers, SB3, Duet a Boom and another Boom killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
dynaudiorules;650124 Wrote: ...I wonder how a eye pattern of the spdif looks when these values are changed. First pic: with mods Second pic: no mods +---+ |Filename: IMG_3584.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12311| +---+ -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
With the mods on: Clearer soundstage, the background noise( i. e. the screen grid) is clearly much lower and the sound is slightly warmer, the greenish tint resembles the same warm sound you get with copper wire in your pickup coil Mods off: Colder, more bluish soundstage, like you get with a silver wire in your coil, more analytical sound but slightly less musical, and the background noise is much ore pronounced. At least on my screen... Mikael -- mikael_b mikael_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
JohnSwenson;650195 Wrote: I've been playing with jive_alsa as well as spdif, I find I like jive_alsa at 55 and spdif at 51. It, much more lively, more open, far more subtle than the default, without the harshness and keeps the perceived frequency balance intact. Of course everybody is going to like something different. This sort of gelled for me, like when you are adjusting VTA and get it right. John S. How do you do this... my jive_alsa is moving from 700 to 701 and 702 with very reboot... jive_alsa is taking two proc.id on my touch. -- RotelMan RotelMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Thanks for letting me know.I'm looking forward to your next report! [image: http://www.amovos.info/luohui1.jpg] [image: http://www.amovos.info/luohui2.jpg] [image: http://www.amovos.info/luohui3.jpg] -- hm417308919kathy hm417308919kathy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Phil Leigh;650295 Wrote: First pic: with mods Second pic: no mods I see no difference. -- avr300 /avr300 avr300's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
rgro;650125 Wrote: EDIT: When I do the ps -e command it shows IRQ-25 as still being 407 on my 7.6.0. Are you perhaps running 7.6.1, or am I missing something? If it does change to 412, for us numpties.do we change chrt -f -p 87 407 to this? chrt -f -p 87 412 Yes, I'm on 7.7. Regarding the syntax you're correct. -- avr300 /avr300 avr300's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
avr300;650323 Wrote: I see no difference. I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: there are no differences to be had in hi fi. It's all in our heads. Phil was only kind enough to nudge us to take the red pill and get the hell out of the audiophile matrix. That's why we call him Neo. And that's why audiophile manufacturers and vendors hate his guts. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
It seems that my touch which has TT2.0 applied has only one jive_alsa proces, my other touch which only has the RT stuff done has two processes (one for spdif and one for the analog output). That makes it a bit harder to get the PID's of both of them. But with a bit of persuasion it works, we only need the jive_alsa connected to the plughw: # ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa 706 jive_alsa -d plughw:2,0 -b 2 -p 2 -s 16 -f 2 707 jive_alsa -d default -c default -b 2 -p 2 -s 24 -f 1 You could use this in your script: ps -eo pid,args|grep jive_alsa -d plughw|head -1|cut -f3 -d -- lintweaker lintweaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
JohnSwenson;650195 Wrote: I've been playing with jive_alsa as well as spdif, I find I like jive_alsa at 55 and spdif at 51. It, much more lively, more open, far more subtle than the default, without the harshness and keeps the perceived frequency balance intact. Of course everybody is going to like something different. This sort of gelled for me, like when you are adjusting VTA and get it right. John S. On 7.7 (firmware 7.6.0 r9458) I have two jive_alsa processes: # ps -e | grep jive* 684 ?00:02:06 jive 747 ?00:02:10 jive_alsa 748 ?00:01:50 jive_alsa Anyone knows why ? -- avr300 /avr300 avr300's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
magiccarpetride;650327 Wrote: I'll let you in on a dirty little secret: there are no differences to be had in hi fi. It's all in our heads. Phil was only kind enough to nudge us to take the red pill and get the hell out of the audiophile matrix. That's why we call him Neo. And that's why audiophile manufacturers and vendors hate his guts. Then thanks to Neo. Back to default again. -- avr300 /avr300 avr300's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Normally the Touch has two jive_alsa processes, one for the sound effects (beeps, blips etc), and one for the music outputs, it handles both analog outs and digital outs. The music one will have a -d default in its command line, the effects one has a -d plughw:2,0. When you use TT2.0 the effects process is disabled and both the effects and music are routed to the same jive_alsa process (which is why its imperitive to turn off sound effects when using TT2.0). You do have to be careful with the process numbers, they can change. Up this thread a ways someone posted a varient of the script which determines on the fly what the process numbers are, you just need to add detection of the correct jive_alsa thread to this script. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
JohnSwenson;650337 Wrote: Normally the Touch has two jive_alsa processes, one for the sound effects (beeps, blips etc), and one for the music outputs, it handles both analog outs and digital outs. The music one will have a -d default in its command line, the effects one has a -d plughw:2,0. When you use TT2.0 the effects process is disabled and both the effects and music are routed to the same jive_alsa process (which is why its imperitive to turn off sound effects when using TT2.0). You do have to be careful with the process numbers, they can change. Up this thread a ways someone posted a varient of the script which determines on the fly what the process numbers are, you just need to add detection of the correct jive_alsa thread to this script. John S. Thanks... hmm i'm on 7.6 with TT 2.0 and still have two jive_alsa process -- RotelMan RotelMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Please forgive my muddling here... When I type the command: pse -e | grep jive* I get: 724 ?00::58:04 jive 746 ?00::58:04 jive_alsa From here, then, what do I actually need to type to see and change the jive_alsa value?? -- rgro Rick System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via spdif coax Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.0 r32859 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6 r9458. Duet: FW 77 r9458. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
rgro;650349 Wrote: Please forgive my muddling here... When I type the command: pse -e | grep jive* I get: 724 ?00::58:04 jive 746 ?00::58:04 jive_alsa From here, then, what do I actually need to type to see and change the jive_alsa value?? (I think) you just need to enter chrt -f -p xx 746 where xx is the desired value -- john4456 john4456's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Thanks John, I'll give it try. To use an American sports analogy, you guys are playin' in the majors and I'm somewhere out there in low single A ball -- rgro Rick System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via spdif coax Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.0 r32859 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6 r9458. Duet: FW 77 r9458. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech offer: 50% off any one item
I got the coupon today but tried adding the Transporter to the cart and it says it's out of stock! -- alec_cat alec_cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89479 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech offer: 50% off any one item
where do you get a coupon. They didnt send one to me. -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com; Spotify;Rhapsody (Sirius.com on hold) Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89479 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Well (copied John Swenson's values) and did chrt -f -p 55 746 and chrt -f -p 51 367 and nothing broke, at least. I consider that, by itself, a major victory! Plus it seems to sound damn fine -- rgro Rick System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via spdif coax Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.0 r32859 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6 r9458. Duet: FW 77 r9458. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Iam on version 7.5.4. The jive_alsa pid is 706. Did chrt -f -p 55 706 chrt -f -p 51 367 The brightness glare seem to have gone!. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech offer: 50% off any one item
I think it's random. Mine appeared in my inbox from them this morning and it expires after 7 days. -- alec_cat alec_cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89479 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
JohnSwenson;650337 Wrote: Normally the Touch has two jive_alsa processes, one for the sound effects (beeps, blips etc), and one for the music outputs, it handles both analog outs and digital outs. The music one will have a -d default in its command line, the effects one has a -d plughw:2,0. When you use TT2.0 the effects process is disabled and both the effects and music are routed to the same jive_alsa process (which is why its imperitive to turn off sound effects when using TT2.0). You do have to be careful with the process numbers, they can change. Up this thread a ways someone posted a varient of the script which determines on the fly what the process numbers are, you just need to add detection of the correct jive_alsa thread to this script. John S. When we have found the correct jive alsa thread (pid), how do we make the change? Is it: chrt -f -p 55 pid or something else? Bob -- bobertuk 1 x Touch - SC 7.6.0 - SSOTS v4.91 1 x Radio 1 x Boom Lavry DA-10 DAC QNAP TS-509 3.3.6 build 1110T Starfish Pre-amp : Based on NAIM Heavily modified NAIM NAP 250 Power-amp Behringer DEQ2496 Linn Isobarik DMS bobertuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30376 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
bobertuk;650406 Wrote: When we have found the correct jive alsa thread (pid), how do we make the change? Is it: chrt -f -p 55 pid or something else? Bob Consider the source (noob at this), but that is, indeed, what seemed to work for me. My jive_alsa pid was 746, so I typed chrt -f -p 55 746 -- rgro Rick System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via spdif coax Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.0 r32859 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6 r9458. Duet: FW 77 r9458. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Popping Sounds
I have had a Transporter for a couple of years and hear a quiet pop when resolution changes. I wouldn't worry about it too much. You are not the only one. -- Celeritas Transporter - Classe' CP-47.5 - Classe' CA-201 - Martin Logan SL3 Celeritas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
This is all some great information...this mod is really snow-balling into some solid improvements. I did notice that the sound is difference with different firmwares. My two Touch's have different firmware installed and the both need different values to sound good. -- dynaudiorules 'Dynobot's Audio' (https://sites.google.com/site/computeraudioorg/) dynaudiorules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I could use a bit of help here. I have 2 Touches and they had the electrolytic coupling capacitors on their analog outputs bypassed along w/ some other hdware improvements but in terms of this thread, the spdif output is shut off by Soundcheck's TT 2.0 mods (along w/ the rest of those mods.) Therefore, playing w/ the IRQ for the spdif output has no efficacy for me as I'm using the internal AKM DAC chip albeit w/ mods. Does anyone know which IRQ I can substitute for the spdif and what value to assign or does the jive-alsa thread must needs be reordered? Larry -- lcrim lcrim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Has anyone figured out how to set this on reboot? Would this work in the rcS file? jalsa=`ps -C jive_alsa -o pid=` chrt -f -p 55 $jalsa /dev/null -- alec_cat alec_cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
