Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?
gizek;666752 Wrote: Ask yourself a question if you know what you're looking for. What kind of sonic signature you like ? If you enjoy your Touch, why bother to upgrade. I wrote why in my posts above, I am not completely happy with the sound of the Touch. Meanwhile I have found another DAC, that many are raving about. Looks very interesting, the BIFROST: http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=0products_id=7 If I were able to do the soldering myself, I am sure this would be the best and cheapest - option. What you write about the sound of your DAC, is EXACTLY what I am looking for - and missing in the Touch. Thanks for your help! -- Squeezemenicely Squeezebox Server 7.6.1 on Squeezeplug (Dockstar) Synology DS-410j NAS Squeezebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Spotify Premium iPhone: iPeng - iPad: Squeezepad Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Garage Conversion - Sound advice ?
Some uplighters x4 with a bit of bling (wife's choice) -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Quote: I'm in the process of rewriting the blog. That's why it is not available for the time being. Tomorrow at 1500 Zulu you'll find TT30 and the new documentation. Cheers __ ::: Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 and more ::: by soundcheck -- mjock3 mjock3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49183 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Quote: posted 11/1/11 I'm in the process of rewriting the blog. That's why it is not available for the time being. Tomorrow at 1500 Zulu you'll find TT30 and the new documentation. Cheers __ ::: Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 and more ::: by soundcheck -- mjock3 mjock3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49183 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stylish tiny amp for Touch
JJZolx;664275 Wrote: How about this one? I wouldn't want an amp without a volume control. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muse-M50-TPA3123-Stereo-Amplifier/dp/B005OSFWPQ [image: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JbBiNxddL._SL500_AA300_.jpg] Just got this - hooked up - sounds pretty damned good to me and so small. I'll update if anything goes wrong! -- castalla 1 Touch - cheap unbranded optical cable - old Sony Microsystem - Acoustics Q10 speakers - 2 duff ears - purrfekt! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91027 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Have fun tonight. ;) -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Klaus, I had a look at your blog. Maybe I'm thick, but I didn't find the TT3.0. Just put my system up again after moving. Am using a Welborne Labs PS which made a great difference. hope hearing from you best regards and thanks in advance André -- reverendo reverendo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
reverendo;666902 Wrote: Klaus, I had a look at your blog. Maybe I'm thick, but I didn't find the TT3.0. Just put my system up again after moving. Am using a Welborne Labs PS which made a great difference. hope hearing from you best regards and thanks in advance André You can see it here: http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2011/01/soundchecks-squeezebox-touch-toolbox-20.html BTW, you use analog or digital out from Touch, as I hear digital out is not affected by upgraded PS changes. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
thanks a lot I use the digital out and it DEFINITELY made a differece. The difference was such that my wife heard the difference. No placebo effect here. best regards André -- reverendo reverendo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Hi Soundcheck... I implemented both the LMS 7.7.0 upgrades, re-did dynaudiorules' alsa threading/interupt mods, and put in TT 3.0 all this morning. Everything seems to be working fine, though I will see if any bugs bite over the next few days. One question I had, though: why do you recommend implementing the daemon-killer? Thanks again for all your work... -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.1 r33149 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6.1 r9486. Duet: FW 77 r9486. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
rgro;666920 Wrote: Hi Soundcheck... I implemented both the LMS 7.7.0 upgrades, re-did dynaudiorules' alsa threading/interupt mods, and put in TT 3.0 all this morning. Everything seems to be working fine, though I will see if any bugs bite over the next few days. One question I had, though: why do you recommend implementing the daemon-killer? Thanks again for all your work... I'm not sure if these dynaudio-rules mods are still required. I'm running my own optimizations in that area. They might even interfere. For now I wouldn't use those different approaches in parallel. You end up not knowing of what is doing what. At a later stage you might merge/apply them. If dynaudio-rules approach turns out to be the better choice, I'll have a look at them. As with all other mods, you should try the daemon-killer. Then you decide if you want to run it or not. I do think it's well worth trying. ;) Cheers -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
soundcheck;666924 Wrote: I'm not sure if these dynaudio-rules mods are still required. I'm running my own optimizations in that area. They might even interfere. For now I wouldn't use those different approaches in parallel. You end up not knowing of what is doing what. At a later stage you might merge/apply them. If dynaudio-rules approach turns out to be the better choice, I'll have a look at them. As with all other mods, you should try the daemon-killer. Then you decide if you want to run it or not. I do think it's well worth trying. ;) Cheers Ahhh...thanks for clarifying on the dynaudiorules' mods. I'll go ahead and remove them for the time being, then. On the daemon killerif I'm reading your instructions correctly, you say it'll take a hardware reset to get you back in in order to run any of the TT commands. Do you mean a Factory Reset or just a simple reboot? I suspect you mean just a reboot as I believe the factory reset would completely wipe out TT 3.0, right? Please confirm.thank you! -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.1 r33149 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6.1 r9486. Duet: FW 77 r9486. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
yep. just a reboot. -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
soundcheck;666934 Wrote: yep. just a reboot. Yep...just tried it, now I understand how it works, thanks. I just commented out the dynaudiorules' mods. I can then re-implement them very quickly if need be I'll give things a good long listen over the next few days and see how it all sounds. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.6.1 r33149 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.6.1 r9486. Duet: FW 77 r9486. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Hi Klaus- Just installed 3.0, it works great. The help screen is a great new feature, as is the screen on-off command. Overall a more friendly, more convenient package. And I must say, I do think the SQ is improved over V 2.0. My system sounds cleaner and clearer to me. It's not a huge difference, but it is a noticeable one. I can hear some of the small details in the music more easily. And this is with the screen on. (Although on my setup I don't really hear a difference with the screen off, to be honest.) Anyway, thanks again. And to those of you who use the program but haven't donated, make a donation! -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, classDaudio SDS-470 amp; MF X-150 as pre-amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Many Thanks Klaus,worked liked a charm on 7.5.5,no problems on 24/96,windows 7/64,tutorial was great even for a newbie like me :) -- c-eling c-eling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
After downloading Soundcheck's new modification toolkit 3.0 and installing it without any problems thanks to the very clear step-by-step documentation provided on the blog, I am totally blown away with the very obvious improvements to my listening experience. I have no hesitancy to recommend these software mods to owners of the Logitech Touch... It is not difficult to implement Klaus' recommendations and the results are most gratifying. Due to my wireless setup, the only mod I have not able been to implement is the LAN mode. Most of my listening is streaming from Spotify Premium (OGG Vorbis 320 kbps) and to me the listening experience clearly surpasses or is equal to listening to my collection of CDs streaming from the SBS. (of course, this is a totally subjective impression - trust your own ears!). Again, warmest congrats to Klaus for all his hard work in developing this toolkit for us! -- cvj cvj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Many thanks to you Klaus V3 is clear step up from V2, congratulations I (and I hope a lot of fellow members) will be making a donation towards the development fund. Only issue I have seen is probably specific to my set up in that i use Spotify premium and need the screen display. There is a long running fault with the Touch where it will sometimes lock up when you go to change a track on spotify. The only way to fix is a soft re-boot - if you do that then the Touch comes back without display (even though it is enabled from your help mods). Thats without using the daemon killer (tt -k) mod also. Other than that its a great step up. Best regards Mark ps. When is V4 planned? ;-) -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Just had the chance to listen to a few of my fave tracks again and everything is more alive and musical - compared to V2, V3 is different league. Now, what Logitech should do is hardwire these software mods, and blow the Sonos / Linn DS brigade away. But only after employing Klaus and paying him a wedge of investment $$. Hi hate the US terminology but V3 really is awesome. Amen. -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone got Matrix Mini-i or Atoll 100 Dac?
Looks better inside for sure. Any reviews on sound quality ? -- gizek SB Touch DIY FDA-1 DAC Audio Research LS3b preamp Pass Labs XA30.5 amp Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor M gizek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
just installed everything and listened to my test files in order to evaluate. the word that keeps popping up in my mind is 'clearer'. Everything is more transparent, low-level details show up more easily. Seems like I have a blacker background. I spent the whole afternoon experimenting with power chords so I'm very aware of how the sound of the system was before with these same test files. Thanks a lot Klaus. best regards André PS: just donated ;) PPS: I work semi-professionaly with music production so chance of placebo effect is definitely lower than normal. I'm also a musician having studied Composition for 7 semesters at a University. Just so you guys know where I come from. system setup: SB Touch (with TT3.0 mods)Camelot Uther 2.0 Mk4 (with factory 24/192 Anagram chip upgrade)Gryphon Tabu 2/100KEF Reference 201.2 -- reverendo reverendo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
reverendo;667010 Wrote: PPS: I work semi-professionaly with music production so chance of placebo effect is definitely lower than normal. Why? I'd say quite the opposite is true. Due to cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance) you are even more eager to hear _something_ when so many more people claim they can hear something (or indeed do hear improvements). (please note that this post is not about the quality of Soundchecks Mod. My ears are not good enough to judge about that, just stumbled about this one sentence which seemed to contradict itself in my opinion) -- bluegaspode Did you know: *'SqueezePlayer' (www.squeezeplayer.com)* will stream all your music to your Android device. Take your music everywhere! Remote Control + Streaming to your iPad? *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
What's everyone's thoughts on the tt -k mod? -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
bluegaspode;667014 Wrote: Why? I'd say quite the opposite is true. Due to cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance) you are even more eager to hear _something_ when so many more people claim they can hear something (or indeed do hear improvements). (please note that this post is not about the quality of Soundchecks Mod. My ears are not good enough to judge about that, just stumbled about this one sentence which seemed to contradict itself in my opinion) Hi bluegaspode, I'm not sure how much contact you have with people from the music industry, but a very, very high percentage think that most audiophiles are people who spend (waste) their money on things that pro-gear does much better for a much less money. Most sound engineers are very pragmatic and empiric instead of idealist and deductive in their thinking. This makes most people that work professionaly with music production inclined NOT to look for differences in mods. I might be an exception (who knows?), but the majority of this field is very sceptical regarding audiophile mods. ;) hope it makes more sense to you now :) best regards André -- reverendo reverendo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Really really good, it sounds better than freaking ever, Thank You Klaus! -- sckramer CiAudio vdc-Sb - Touch (TT 3.0 mods) PSaudio DL3 DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitor, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) PSaudio ac3 / Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat veloce digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
+1 and my donation was sent to Klaus this evening. Hopefully, many more will take the time to donate in thanks for his efforts that benefit us Touch users. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE IV amp VA Mozart Grands REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: Duet/SBR (Wired) Pioneer VSX 919 Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.7.0 r33626 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.7.0 r9550. Duet: FW 7.7.0 r9546. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
