Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hi, One long thread to catch up on :-O Interesting as well as confusing (I'm needing to understand computing a little more) will need to re-cap some bits me thinks. Any way, Thought I had installed all TT3... sounds quite different to TT2, 1st impression thin and improved clarity, sound sources much more pin pointed, had to put back my lower bass port plug, to get lower bass tight again - so more lower freq :-) Even though it's thin sounding I'm loving the clarity and more accuratly placed instruments and singers :-) After skimming over 100 pages or so realised I'd missed the tcp and fidelizer programs, installed both last night, this morning things seem fuller and clarity has dropped back a level. Just wanted to clarify that a pc restart finishes fidelizer, and setting tcp to windows default puts that back to normal..? I did a while ago use ctrl alt del to set LMS to hi priority, not sure if the tcp prog will reset this to defaut. Talk about a tuning exercise, the possibilities seem endless!! must be something there for everyone. Cheers for any thoughts! DC -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Deaf Cat;682742 Wrote: After skimming over 100 pages or so realised I'd missed the tcp and fidelizer programs, installed both last night, this morning things seem fuller and clarity has dropped back a level. Just wanted to clarify that a pc restart finishes fidelizer, and setting tcp to windows default puts that back to normal..? DC No problem. Do a restart and listen. Is the sound is thinner and clearer? ;) -- NoRoDa NoRoDa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with wired setup please
So finally got to try out my setup wired after dragging PC and router downstairs into listening room. PC into router and SBT into router. Sound compared to WLAN is less fatiging and clearer after 90 mins listening. Some more dynamics as well. Not night and day but the final tweaking makes a difference. I tried pulling network cable from SBT and listened to the 20-30 seconds buffered without any interference and it was one of those rare moments when something really clicks into place and music made so much more sense. Detail levels and cleanless in the sound were a definate improvement and I really liked the sound. So, how can I best replicate this in the real world? I have a ADSL line in lounge near (2-3meters) SBT and AMP. PC upstairs where I usually have router connected directly to it. Laptop usually downstairs but not in fixed place. I currently use WLAN method with PC on upstairs. Have a controller on its way! Have heard getting a bridge and switch to sit in front on Touch is alternative to direct wired allowing to use Soundcheck toolbox LAN mod. Please can you recommend if this is the best option or if there is a better configuration I haven't considered (with example). Is it possible to have router in listening room with switch before SBT without being directly connected into PC or laptop? Cheers and thanks Ambrose. -- Ambrose Ambrose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Recipe: SBT (w TT3.0/default/buffer 2) -- Analog Out via Kimber PBJ's -- Cambridge Audio 650A -- Semi DIY Ultralink speaker cable -- Focal 716V speakers. End product: Extremely detailed, forward. Somewhat annoying highs when increasing the volume enough to hear a little bass. (double checked, I am not out of phase) It even makes AC/DC sound polite. I think I need a sub. Unbalanced. -- Munroe Munroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52982 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
NoRoDa;682744 Wrote: No problem. Do a restart and listen. Is the sound is thinner and clearer? ;) Oh yes Clarity is back :-)Simple a! Thanks for clarifying that. Will have a further play with above when I get the linear psu for the router sorted out. Cheers for now DC -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Wondered if you may be able to help me understand the lights on my router, and the buffer size thing. I have a wireless router wired to the LMS pc in the consevatory and it talks over the air to another wirelss router in the lounge to which the SBT is wired. On TT2 think I had the buffer down to about 5.5k knowing I have drop outs I was lowering the buffer size slowly bit at a time... The arial light and the socket 3 into which the SBT is wired used to flash in a right panic for a short while and then take a breather for a while then go in to hyper mad flash mode again for a short while then have another rest. I knew if the hyper flash panic was after a longer than usual breather there would be a drop out... Now with TT3 the buffer is set at default I think 3400, the lights flash in not such a mad panic but seem to flash for a lot longer and only have a split second or two rest before the stream of flashes continues. Would I be right in thinking with a smaller buffer information has to flow more constantly to keep the music flowing, rather than with a big buffer a heafty load of info is dropped music plays using the info up, while lights pause, and then when it runs low, another heafty load is dropped? Also if you don 't mind what is the difference : Soundcheck Quote (from install instructions): With this modification you will resize the Alsa buffer. It's the buffer from the Linux soundlayer to your device and NOT the streaming buffer on the ethernet receiver. Would some one be kind enough to explain in simple terms what the difference is, and we are altering the Alsa buffer, are we not? Many thanks for you time ;-) Cheers DC -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Can I use tt 3.0 with the current firmware for touch Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.7.1-r9558 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.15 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:22:79:a9? -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
jmschnur;682809 Wrote: Can I use tt 3.0 with the current firmware for touch Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.7.1-r9558 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.15 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:22:79:a9? Yes. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
jmschnur;682809 Wrote: Can I use tt 3.0 with the current firmware for touch Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.7.1-r9558 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.15 I'd edit to remove my MAC address if I were you. Folks up to no good can do bad things with your MAC address. -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) LMS 7.7.1 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) LMS 7.7.1 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.1 SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;681676 Wrote: SBT is off to hospital to get a new ticker and some caps to improve the treble, shall report back. that might be a mistake to replace the clock, the touch clock is almost perfect-- I'd rip out that modded clock before I even listed to it, to see it the bypass caps improve things, then after a week or 2 add the clock in (which might be a downgrade) -- sckramer CiAudio VDC-SB - Touch (TT 2.0 mods, removed toslink, disconnected screen, buf:2) PSaudio DLIII DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitors, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat veloce digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Deaf Cat;682795 Wrote: Wondered if you may be able to help me understand the lights on my router, and the buffer size thing. I have a wireless router wired to the LMS pc in the consevatory and it talks over the air to another wirelss router in the lounge to which the SBT is wired. On TT2 think I had the buffer down to about 5.5k knowing I have drop outs I was lowering the buffer size slowly bit at a time... The arial light and the socket 3 into which the SBT is wired used to flash in a right panic for a short while and then take a breather for a while then go in to hyper mad flash mode again for a short while then have another rest. I knew if the hyper flash panic was after a longer than usual breather there would be a drop out... Now with TT3 the buffer is set at default I think 3400, the lights flash in not such a mad panic but seem to flash for a lot longer and only have a split second or two rest before the stream of flashes continues. Would I be right in thinking with a smaller buffer information has to flow more constantly to keep the music flowing, rather than with a big buffer a heafty load of info is dropped music plays using the info up, while lights pause, and then when it runs low, another heafty load is dropped? Also if you don 't mind what is the difference : Soundcheck Quote (from install instructions): With this modification you will resize the Alsa buffer. It's the buffer from the Linux soundlayer to your device and NOT the streaming buffer on the ethernet receiver. Would some one be kind enough to explain in simple terms what the difference is, and we are altering the Alsa buffer, are we not? Many many thanks for you time ;-) Cheers DC As far as I understand the buffer mods, the ALSA buffer is the otuput buffer of the audiostream towards the internal/external DAC. The streaming buffer is the input buffer from the network. When you plug out the network, you'll still have for a few tens of seconds of music. ALSA buffer of 4k is for 4 ms (milliseconds) of music. So I would not expect a big impact of the ALSA buffersize on the way the streaming traffic flows. It would be however very interesting to have a view on the behavior of both buffers and the processes handling these to have an idea of the correlation between network traffic and buffersize on sound quality. I suspect the optimum SQ would be reached when there is no queuing at either side i.e. the network buffer is filled in at exact the same speed as the ALSA buffer is emptied, in order to keep the processing load as smooth as possible. This is pure theory however and I see no way to check this. -- evdplancke evdplancke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
JohnSwenson;679417 Wrote: Hi all, you may have noticed that I have been absent from this discussion so far, I have been very busy developing a new DAC with a radical new S/PDIF input stage which hopefully will make some of this tweaking a little less necessary. Anyway the first prototype of this new DAC is going out to get assembled tomorrow, so I found my self with a free evening, so I decided to finally try TT3.0. John S. Why don't you open source hardware it :) got some Gerber files? :) -- sckramer CiAudio VDC-SB - Touch (TT 2.0 mods, removed toslink, disconnected screen, buf:2) PSaudio DLIII DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitors, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat veloce digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Jeff, Could you please edit your response to me to edit out my Mac address? Thanks -- jmschnur Joel jmschnur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with wired setup please
Ambrose;682786 Wrote: Have heard getting a bridge and switch to sit in front on Touch is alternative to direct wired allowing to use Soundcheck toolbox LAN mod. Please can you recommend if this is the best option or if there is a better configuration I haven't considered (with example). Is it possible to have router in listening room with switch before SBT without being directly connected into PC or laptop? That is the way I have mine hooked up. Two Airport Extreme base stations, one next to the SBT is run in extended mode via wifi and the SBT is connected through a short ethernet cable. A floor beneath the main AEBS is connected to the high speed connection. Works great. If you have an ipod or ipad, there are apps that will allow you to browse the library while the screen is off. Personally in my setup I have found the tweaks to be a bit lacking in the low end, but the top end is good, very open, with the right buffer. Mind you I use the analog outs on the SBT, so this may not be replicated in your situation. -- Munroe Munroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52982 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
sckramer;682820 Wrote: that might be a mistake to replace the clock, the touch clock is almost perfect-- I'd rip out that modded clock before I even listened to it, to see it the bypass caps improve things, then after a week or 2 add the clock in (which might be a downgrade), you are changing to many things at once, how are you going to make recommendations? seen the same mod on a modded SBT that also had an i2s mod, so am not the only one. I would recommend you get these super tweeters, help get you listening to the 20kz to 90khz range. http://www.townshendaudio.com/supertweeters together with the Bybee quantum purifiers should raise your performance somewhat http://www.audiocominternational.com/bybee-quantum-purifiers-p-34.html?osCsid=eb3e434ea718831163588a51d4351e28 -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;682653 Wrote: it's a mystery why some people found 3200 to 4000 less bassy and some found it more bassy. any chance you could post the ouput from the following ps -eo pid,tid,class,pri,rtprio,cmd it's a mystery to me too but after couple of back-and-forth tests, i'm happy with 3400. here's the result from ps: /root$ ps -eo pid,tid,class,pri,rtprio,cmd Unknown HZ value! (93) Assume 100. PID TID CLS PRI RTPRIO CMD 1 1 TS 19 - init 2 2 TS 24 - [kthreadd] 3 3 FF 138 98 [posixcputmr/0] 4 4 FF 80 40 [sirq-high/0] 5 5 FF 80 40 [sirq-timer/0] 6 6 FF 80 40 [sirq-net-tx/0] 7 7 FF 80 40 [sirq-net-rx/0] 8 8 FF 80 40 [sirq-block/0] 9 9 FF 129 89 [sirq-tasklet/0] 1010 FF 80 40 [sirq-sched/0] 1111 FF 80 40 [sirq-hrtimer/0] 1212 FF 80 40 [sirq-rcu/0] 1313 FF 139 99 [watchdog/0] 1414 TS 29 - [desched/0] 1515 TS 24 - [rcu_sched_grace] 1616 FF 41 1 [events/0] 1717 TS 24 - [khelper] 4949 FF 130 90 [IRQ-34] 9090 TS 24 - [kblockd/0] 9393 TS 24 - [cqueue] 9999 FF 80 40 [IRQ-14] 100 100 TS 24 - [mxc_spi.0] 103 103 TS 24 - [ksuspend_usbd] 109 109 TS 24 - [khubd] 116 116 FF 80 40 [IRQ-10] 125 125 FF 80 40 [IRQ-42] 126 126 FF 80 40 [IRQ-41] 130 130 TS 24 - [kmmcd] 153 153 FF 41 1 [krcupreemptd] 154 154 TS 19 - [pdflush] 155 155 TS 19 - [pdflush] 156 156 TS 24 - [kswapd0] 157 157 TS 24 - [aio/0] 158 158 TS 24 - [unionfs_siod/0] 159 159 TS 24 - [nfsiod] 236 236 FF 80 40 [IRQ-22] 258 258 FF 80 40 [IRQ-57] 263 263 TS 24 - [mtdblockd] 264 264 FF 80 40 [IRQ-33] 300 300 TS 24 - [ubi_bgt0d] 305 305 FF 80 40 [IRQ-37] 334 334 FF 80 40 [IRQ-122] 343 343 TS 24 - [hwevent] 346 346 FF 80 40 [IRQ-17] 351 351 FF 80 40 [IRQ-123] 356 356 FF 80 40 [IRQ-7] 358 358 FF 80 40 [IRQ-102] 359 359 FF 80 40 [IRQ-8] 367 367 FF 80 40 [IRQ-47] 385 385 FF 80 40 [IRQ-11] 395 395 FF 80 40 [IRQ-12] 406 406 TS 24 - [rpciod/0] 407 407 FF 80 40 [IRQ-25] 410 410 FF 90 50 [loadavg] 416 416 FF 80 40 [IRQ-45] 425 425 TS 24 - [ubifs_bgt0_2] 456 456 TS 23 - /sbin/udevd -d 615 615 TS 19 - /sbin/syslogd -S 617 617 TS 19 - /sbin/klogd 635 635 TS 19 - /usr/sbin/inetd 721 721 TS 19 - /usr/bin/jive 722 722 TS 19 - init 723 723 TS 19 - /sbin/getty tty3 9600 VC vt100 753 753 FF 85 45 jive_alsa -d hw:0,0 -c default -b 3400 -p 2 -s 24 -f 3 772 772 TS 19 - udhcpc -R -a -p /var/run/udhcpc.eth0.pid -b --syslog -i eth0 -H SqueezeboxTouch -s /etc/network/udhcpc_action 799 799 TS 19 - dropbear -i 800 800 TS 19 - -sh 852 852 TS 19 - ps -eo pid,tid,class,pri,rtprio,cmd -- pavowren pavowren's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?
I am emphatically a vintage kind of a guy. My bias toward vintage gear stems from my love of vintage guitars and amplifiers and stomp boxes. Any time I've test driven modern gear, I got disappointed by the coldness and a lack of finesse one finds in well preserved vintage equipment. This bias then got carried over to audio gear as well. I prefer hand-build vintage amps, speakers, etc. Furthermore, I also have a soft spot for vintage recordings; stuff recorded back in the 50's, 60s, early to mid 70s. I'm often using some 50+ years old recordings when evaluating upgrades in my audio system. However, yesterday I sat down to listen to Rastrillos Se Acabo El Reve (http://www.amazon.com/Se-Acabo-El-Reve-Rastrillos/dp/B000UX4GVQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1326136556sr=8-6), which is a CD recorded only a few years back. I was expecting a few minutes of cringing in my chair, because I dislike modern 'loudness war' production. Much to my surprise, I found myself enjoying the recording so much, that I just couldn't stop listening. Yes, the music is great, but also there was something extremely seductive about the production, about the way the recording sounds. This got me thinking: perhaps I was tossing the baby out with the bath water as I was pre-emptively dismissing modern recordings? Not only was this CD very pleasant sounding, it also offers certain quality of sound that I don't hear in the old vintage recordings. There is certain firmness, fullness, solidity and expansiveness to the sound, that is just mesmerizing. Anyone else has good listening experiences with contemporary/modern recordings? -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92914 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;682838 Wrote: seen the same mod on a modded SBT that also had an i2s mod, so am not the only one. I would recommend you get these super tweeters, help get you listening to the 20kz to 90khz range. http://www.townshendaudio.com/supertweeters together with the Bybee quantum purifiers should raise your performance somewhat http://www.audiocominternational.com/bybee-quantum-purifiers-p-34.html?osCsid=eb3e434ea718831163588a51d4351e28 i don't understand this response at all -- sckramer CiAudio VDC-SB - Touch (TT 2.0 mods, removed toslink, disconnected screen, buf:2) PSaudio DLIII DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitors, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat veloce digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hi If I Want to upgrade to LMS 7.7.1, do I have to reset the SBT to remove TT3.0 and reinstall after the upgrade? Want to try my Touch in another setup that has LMS 7.7.1 and don't know if my 7.7.0 Touch may be used without upgrading the software Regards Rolf -- NoRoDa NoRoDa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC
Knowing Brent as I do, its going to be very good. I know for a fact the spec of the original unit was changed to meet his much more audiophile requirements. The PSU capacitors are all of the quality he fits in his commercial mods and the opamps were also swapped for National Semiconductors LME49720 (the std dil package version of the LME49720HA tin hat versions I put into you Teac VRDS spinner). Fidelity Audio also has a review in Hifi World (Feb 2012) for a Level 2 mod package. They pitched a Cambridge 650C Azur priced at £300 with a £410 upgrade package (total £710) against a Naim CD5 @ £1500 and guess what..the Cambridge wiped the floor with it!!! LOL Kind of off topic again, but it does give you some idea about what he's up to and the kind of levels he's punching at. That DAC will be very very good. Just as a side note, it uses the same chip that's used in a Consonance Reference CD2.2 which I was very impressed with when I heard. -- UV101 SB3 Deep Blue screen - 2 Clocks, 3 Low noise regs, SEPC ZA caps, External PSU 80VA, Hexfred Mundorf SI, RA Signature PowerKord. Audio Aero Capitole MKII Spinner DAC, RESTEK fantasy (modded), Heavily modded SL-1200MKII,Denon DL-103L by Expert Stylus Co (Sapphire Cantilever custom Diamond stylus),Classe Processor, Focal 706v kimber rewire and Mundorf Supreme in crossovers, 8TC speaker cables, Kimber power cables NNUX mains filter. UV101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
NoRoDa;682853 Wrote: Hi If I Want to upgrade to LMS 7.7.1, do I have to reset the SBT to remove TT3.0 and reinstall after the upgrade? Want to try my Touch in another setup that has LMS 7.7.1 and don't know if my 7.7.0 Touch may be used without upgrading the software Regards Rolf I was running my touch with 7.7.0 firmware and 7.6 server for a while. So they don't have to match. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Jeff Flowerday;682858 Wrote: I was running my touch with 7.7.0 firmware and 7.6 server for a while. So they don't have to match. Thanks I'm going to bring my Touch with 7.7.0 to a setup with 7.7.1 on both server'n'touch. :) -- NoRoDa NoRoDa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
For those taling about modding the S/PDIF out of a Touch a few thoughts: the S/PDIF stream is generated in the processor chip itself, it then goes to a reclocking flop, its in a very tiny single gate package, from there it goes to a network of a couple resistors and a cap, which I presume are doing an impedance match from the flop to the output. Do NOT bypass that flop! The signal coming directly out of the processor is quite bad, the flop reclocks it with the raw clock. As to putting in a BNC jack, it certainly can be done, but make sure you use a real 75 ohm jack, BNCs come in both 50 and 75 ohm types, the 50 ohm types are far more prevalent than the 75 ohm types, if you just get something that says its a BNC jack it will probably be a 50 ohm type, it has to explicitely say its 75 ohms. As to the clock in the Touch being almost perfect, its not. Its a normal cmos inverter and xtal oscillator, they are not BAD but they are not great either. Its definately possible to get oscillators that are MUCH better. And going with a better clock does significantly improve the sound. A while back I was doing a I2S out, clock fed back from DAC scheme and decided to listen to the analog outs just for kicks, I was blown away, the sound was way better than normal. I actually expected it to be worse, what with the issues of sending the clock over the cable I expected the clock jitter to be worse. Even with the cable the clock was better than the built-in one and it was quite obvious. So I would say that improving the clock is actually quite a worthwhile mode if you can do it. Unfortunately there is VERY little room in there to do it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
JohnSwenson;682870 Wrote: As to putting in a BNC jack, it certainly can be done, but make sure you use a real 75 ohm jack, BNCs come in both 50 and 75 ohm types, the 50 ohm types are far more prevalent than the 75 ohm types, if you just get something that says its a BNC jack it will probably be a 50 ohm type, it has to explicitely say its 75 ohms. As to the clock in the Touch being almost perfect, its not. Its a normal cmos inverter and xtal oscillator, they are not BAD but they are not great either. Its definately possible to get oscillators that are MUCH better. And going with a better clock does significantly improve the sound. So I would say that improving the clock is actually quite a worthwhile mode if you can do it. Unfortunately there is VERY little room in there to do it. John S. Just pulling the toslink out made a nice improvement, unless there is a robust way to do a bnc, I'd rather skip that in fear it would make things worse ok, I thought the clock was good, my mistake-- -- sckramer CiAudio VDC-SB - Touch (TT 2.0 mods, removed toslink, disconnected screen, buf:2) PSaudio DLIII DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitors, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat veloce digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
JohnSwenson;682870 Wrote: For those taling about modding the S/PDIF out of a Touch a few thoughts: the S/PDIF stream is generated in the processor chip itself, it then goes to a reclocking flop, its in a very tiny single gate package, from there it goes to a network of a couple resistors and a cap, which I presume are doing an impedance match from the flop to the output. Do NOT bypass that flop! The signal coming directly out of the processor is quite bad, the flop reclocks it with the raw clock. As to putting in a BNC jack, it certainly can be done, but make sure you use a real 75 ohm jack, BNCs come in both 50 and 75 ohm types, the 50 ohm types are far more prevalent than the 75 ohm types, if you just get something that says its a BNC jack it will probably be a 50 ohm type, it has to explicitely say its 75 ohms. As to the clock in the Touch being almost perfect, its not. Its a normal cmos inverter and xtal oscillator, they are not BAD but they are not great either. Its definately possible to get oscillators that are MUCH better. And going with a better clock does significantly improve the sound. A while back I was doing a I2S out, clock fed back from DAC scheme and decided to listen to the analog outs just for kicks, I was blown away, the sound was way better than normal. I actually expected it to be worse, what with the issues of sending the clock over the cable I expected the clock jitter to be worse. Even with the cable the clock was better than the built-in one and it was quite obvious. So I would say that improving the clock is actually quite a worthwhile mode if you can do it. Unfortunately there is VERY little room in there to do it. John S. thanks for a very informative post, John. Soundcheck recommended connecting the digital coax directly to the board, can you comment on whether this is a good idea as it would get rid of the bnc/rca connection issue, but I don't know how critical the 75 ohm impedences are ? reading up just now about your SBT I2S out, but have a benchmark dac1 which does not have I2S and have not found any info on the web. I2S seems the way to go if those that have reviewed it are to be believed. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?
I have been thrilled listening to the recent Robert Plant offerings, the one with Allison Krause, and the more recent one called Band of Joy. These CDs sound so good on my vintage tube amp and ProAc speakers I keep hitting repeat! (Actually I am listening via SB Touch not the CDs anymore) -- sc53 Living Room ~ Touch Benchmark DAC Audio Research CA-2 ProAc D15 Bedroom ~ Boom Kitchen ~ SB3 NAD 747 ATC SCM 12 Listening Room ~ SB3 Electrocompaniet ECD 1 DAC Electrocompaniet ECI 3 Genesis 500 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92914 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC
Fantastic, be really interesting to hear your feedback on this DAC then when you get it setup and in your system. Keep us posted -- andyjayh Lounge - SB Touch with TT3.0, DC cap mod, XBMC ASRock, Proceed AVP2, CinePro 3K6, Monitor Audio GR20's, 10TB unRAID Workshop - SB3, T-Amp, JBL C1's Office - SB3, CLabs 2.1 andyjayh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3758 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
evdplancke;682823 Wrote: As far as I understand the buffer mods, the ALSA buffer is the output buffer of the audiostream towards the internal/external DAC. The streaming buffer is the input buffer from the network. When you plug out the network, you'll still have for a few tens of seconds of music. ALSA buffer of 4k is for 4 ms (milliseconds) of music only. So I would not expect a big impact of the ALSA buffersize on the way the streaming traffic flows. So smoothing the flow/load in the SBT in some systems sounds good and in others at 20k, peeks of rebuffering sound best. Hmmm interesting, I see what you mean as in ALSA should not effect the network streeming/buffering, if I am back early enough tomorrow I will try the 20k buffer just to see what the lights do and see what it sounds like :-) -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;682876 Wrote: thanks for a very informative post, John. Soundcheck recommended connecting the digital coax directly to the board, can you comment on whether this is a good idea as it would get rid of the bnc/rca connection issue, but I don't know how critical the 75 ohm impedences are ? I was just pondering that idea myself. I have a decent cable that I use only for the Touch and wouldn't mind chopping one end off and hardwiring to the board if it meant an improvement. However I would hate to do that just to find out that it makes things worse. -- Turnandcough Turnandcough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Turnandcough;682889 Wrote: I was just pondering that idea myself. I have a decent cable that I use only for the Touch and wouldn't mind chopping one end off and hardwiring to the board if it meant an improvement. However I would hate to do that just to find out that it makes things worse. I tried it together with the toslink removal, think it still meets the spdif spec as long as the other end has a 75 ohm bnc connector. did sound good, sound was more open and detailed. Soundcheck's blog has details and pictures. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC
andyjayh;675933 Wrote: From other peoples experience of DAC upgrades with the Touch, are the improvements subtle or a big step up again? I guess this depends on the DAC in question and therefore the dollar involved. I'm looking for a step up that makes me pack my Teac away once and for all and I'm not sure if the Emotiva/Heed/Audio-gd price range DACs will do this? Do I need to be looking at £500-£1000 devices or am I looking at this all wrong? From the little I've listened to with regards to dac's, well one rather loud and fun afternoon, one needs to listen to a dac with your favorite music as I found different dacs played different music better, IMO anyway, how confusing is that! Don't know if a little read here may be of interest: http://thelondonbakeoffshow.110mb.com/index.php?p=1_8_Computer-audio-room -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch DAC
Thanks and I understand what you mean about favoured music, lol I'll check out that link also, looks interesting, thanks. -- andyjayh Lounge - SB Touch with TT3.0, DC cap mod, XBMC ASRock, Proceed AVP2, CinePro 3K6, Monitor Audio GR20's, 10TB unRAID Workshop - SB3, T-Amp, JBL C1's Office - SB3, CLabs 2.1 andyjayh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3758 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?
I feel like a broken record on this subject, but the sound of recordings has far more to do with the intentional choices made by the producer, recording engineer and artists than the age or choice of equipment. Just like hemlines, colors, furniture styles, food trends and so on, things go in and out of style. The only thing that prevents more recordings from having the vintage sound you like are all the people at the other end of the chain who want a modern sound with that in your face element. My LP to digital transfers sound just like the LP. No harsh sounds pop up, no compression or distortion or frequency balance change is added. In my book, digital is not the problem. I'm cautiously optimistic that the loudness wars are beginning to fade a bit, a least on the material I listen to. That's one thing about all fads, sooner or later they do run their course. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92914 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Deaf Cat;682887 Wrote: So smoothing the flow/load in the SBT in some systems sounds good and in others at 20k, peeks of rebuffering sound best. Hmmm interesting, I see what you mean as in ALSA should not effect the network streeming/buffering, if I am back early enough tomorrow I will try the 20k buffer just to see what the lights do and see what it sounds like :-) 4 ms to 20 ms would not make such a big difference for human ears... I don't think we can say 20k ALSA buffer cause peaks of rebuffering and 4k not. Only the frequency at which this happens is 2,5 octave higher. An assumption could be that this rebuffering would cause a noise with specific frequency characteristics, around 250 Hz for 4k and 50 Hz for 20k buffer. Depending from the frequency characteristics of each system, this noise could generate more or less interferences at cost of SQ. The ratio between streaming packet size and ALSA buffersize might also have an incidence, creating stationnary or random noise if they are respectively multiple or not of each other, since rebuffering would happen respectively at regular or random intervals. Again, these are a pure assumption difficult to verify. There still a lot to be discovered about these phenomena. -- evdplancke evdplancke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;682876 Wrote: thanks for a very informative post, John. reading up just now about your SBT I2S out, but have a benchmark dac1 which does not have I2S and have not found any info on the web. I2S seems the way to go if those that have reviewed it are to be believed. Re: SBT = I2S = Benchmark.. There are problems here that will not make this feasible. I2S does not travel any amount of distance well; it will be worse than S/PDIF to your DAC. -- Audio Bling Audio Bling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;682891 Wrote: I tried it together with the toslink removal, think it still meets the spdif spec as long as the other end has a 75 ohm bnc connector. did sound good, sound was more open and detailed. Soundcheck's blog has details and pictures. I know we're straying off topic but one last thing. Does coax cable length really matter? Some people say you need a minimum of 1.5m to avoid reflections. If so - why do so many so called high end cable manufacturers sell 1m cables? You'd think they would want to advise their customers against this. And what about internal circuits in DACs, CD players, etc? Surely they don't have 1.5m of cable snaking around inside the case. -- Turnandcough Turnandcough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Turnandcough;682907 Wrote: I know we're straying off topic but one last thing. Does coax cable length really matter? Some people say you need a minimum of 1.5m to avoid reflections. If so - why do so many so called high end cable manufacturers sell 1m cables? You'd think they would want to advise their customers against this. And what about internal circuits in DACs, CD players, etc? Surely they don't have 1.5m of cable snaking around inside the case. Very good questions/observations.. I have two cables that I use: DH Labs D-75 with Vampire BNC termination ( 1.5m) and a Black Cat Veloce (1.1m). Which do I prefer? The DH Labs sounds more open and the Veloce more detailed. So (surprise, surprise) it is a matter of taste YMMV etc. etc.. BTW. I believe Steve Nugent is possibly responsible for publicising the 1.5m rule. Clearly, many specialist cable designers would disagree. -- Audio Bling Audio Bling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Turnandcough;682907 Wrote: I know we're straying off topic but one last thing. Does coax cable length really matter? I No it doesn't not at all. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?
magiccarpetride;682842 Wrote: I am emphatically a vintage kind of a guy. My bias toward vintage gear stems from my love of vintage guitars and amplifiers and stomp boxes. I have DOZENS of GREAT SOUNDING modern recordings. Ray Lamontagne- Till the Sun Turns Black Te Deum- ECM Chris Whitley- Dirt Floor Wilco- A Ghost Is Born Bon Iver- For Emma, ,Forever Ago Lux Aeterna- RCM hiskeytown- strangers almanac cowboy junkies- trinity sessions television - marquee moon gil scott heron - pieces of a man Trisha Yearwoord - Real Live Woman Chris Stills: 100 Year Thing. Trust by Low Slanted Enchanted Pavement heart shaped world- chris isaak Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica. V.A.S.T _ Video Auditory Sensory Theatre Davy Spillane Atlantic Bridge David Lindley El Rayo X Air - Moon Safari Sufjan Stevens Cmon feel the illinoise Band of Horses' Everything All The Time The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull- Earth Calexico- Feast of Wire WHY? Alopecia Long Live Duke and King Gomez- Bring it On John Martyn- Solid Air Gillian Welch- Time, the revelator Ry Cooder- Talking Timbuktu Bela Fleck - cosmic hippo Blue Valentine, Mule Variations- Tom Waits Bap Kennedy _ Domestic Blues Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings- I learned the Hard Way Beck _ Sea Change Jack Johnson- Brushfire Fairytales Nickel Creek- Debut/S/T A meeting by the river- waterlily acoustics Eric Bibb and Needed Time - Spirit and The Blues- Opus 3 Tiny Island - Opus 3 Bourbon and Rosewater- Waterlily Ryan Adams- Heartbreaker Wilco - A Ghost is Born Chris WHitley- Dirt Floor Alison Krauss/Union Station- LIVE Appalachian Waltz/Appalachian Journey- SONY Lyle Lovett and His Large Band Lyle Lovett- Joshua Judges Ruth Lanois- SHine Minutemen- double nickels on the dime Muddy Waters- Folk Singer Ray Charles - Album 'True Life' Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Will the Circle be Unbroken Budd/Eno (The Pearl) Tom Waits- Mule Variations Bap Kennedy - Domestic Blues television's marquis moon The Dirtbombs - Ultraglide in Black Beck - Sea Change Wrecking Ball - Emmylou Harris Stanley Clarke's School Days Rundgren- SOmething/Anything Sam Cooke- Night Beat My Bloody Valentine - Loveless Jellyfish - Spilt Milk The Abyssinians - Satta Massagana Aswad - Not Satisfied Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen We're Floating In Space Caribou - Up in Flames Either / or Elliot Smith XO- Elliot Smith This Years Model Elvis Costello in the Aeroplane over the Sea Neutral Milk Hotel Catherine Wheel ~ Adam Eve Voodoo by D'Angelo. The Zombies - Odyssey and Oracle Pet Sounds- Beach Boys also.. check out the labels.. waterlily acoustics acousence yarlung john marks records opus 3 daptone dabringhaus und grimm stockfisch 5\4 blue coast mapleshade rounder tacet ecm there is NO SHORTAGE of MODERN AMAZING SOUNDS -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92914 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio K100 TheOctavist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
TheOctavist;682920 Wrote: No it doesn't not at all. mine is 0.5 m, sounds very good Digital Interconnects The Digit Our entry level S/PDIF Coaxial true 75 ohm Electrical Digital Interconnect is constructed from PTFE Teflon and Silver plated Oxygen Free Copper. This cable is well suited to long runs and conforms to RG-179 terminated with minimalist hollow pin Gold plated RCA connectors.. No fuss hand built quality a genuine improvement over many mainstream mid priced digital cables. also suitable for high quality composite AV signals. 0.5 metre Terminated with minimalist RCA connectors... £45 (add £10 per extra 0.5m) wpeC.jpg (10873 bytes) The Dark Art 75 Ohm S/PDIF Coaxial true 75 ohm Digital Interconnect is constructed from PTFE Teflon and Silver plated Oxygen Free Copper with Eichmann Bullets or Silver Plated BNC as standard .other termination options available on request . This is a superb digital transmission system that uses a specialized internal construction The Dark Art S/PDIF 75 Ohm Digital Interconnect 0.5 metre Terminated with Eichmann Bullets or Neutrik BNC.. £75..00 (add £20 per extra 0.5m) wpe8.jpg (16668 bytes) Balanced The Dark Art 110 Ohm AES/EBU 110 ohm Digital Interconnect uses the same Super Fine Silver Plated Oxygen Free Copper Conductor with special attention paid to conductor spacing to ensure a perfect impedance of 110 ohms - this is then finished with true 110 ohm Silver-Plated Neutrik XLRs making the Perfect Digital Transmission system The Dark Art AES/EBU 110ohm Balanced Digital Interconnect 0.5 metre Terminated with True 110 Ohm XLR .. £95..00 (add £35 per extra 0.5m) wpe8.jpg (38692 bytes) Link Cryo Reference Binary Star... a true hi fi legend at a great price A Reference standard Digital cable offering our super Cryogenically treated Conductors - PTFE Teflon Insulation - Silver Eichmann bullets as standard termination for the RCA version .. True 75 Ohm Reference BNC connectors and genuine 110 Ohm Neutrik XLR for the balanced version. this cable also takes advantage of RFI reducing ferrite technology with the added benefit of the reduction electromagnetic contamination between cables a simple audition will tell you all you need to know. 0.5 metre 75 ohm cable with choice of Digital terminations -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Audio Bling;682904 Wrote: Re: SBT = I2S = Benchmark.. There are problems here that will not make this feasible. I2S does not travel any amount of distance well; it will be worse than S/PDIF to your DAC. the reviews of empirical audio's dac1 I2S mod show the I2S interface to be a game changer. I think there are issues if the I2S cables are not balanced. -- SBGK SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
