Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone used this... AudiophileOptimizer

2013-11-28 Thread garym

Mnyb wrote: 
 
 For some reason none of the aviable magic audiophile software vendors
 will do this , they fill there websites with anecdotes instead . Despite
 that it is possible to prove their products they somehow always avoid
 this very powerfull product verification ?
 

So true. Double blind tests could solve a lot of issues and answer a lot
of questions regarding differences (as they do every day in the worlds
of medicine, science, and engineering). But they'd be out of business if
they did this. To paraphrase P.T. Barnum (??), There's a sucker born
every minute and there are magical audio solution sellers waiting in
line to attract them as customers.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone used this... AudiophileOptimizer

2013-11-28 Thread Deaf Cat

I guess from all the arguments against tweeking the source pc, all of
your answers are 'no you have not tried any tweeking'...
or if you have it had made no difference.
Many thanks for you time and explanations.
Cheers
DC



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone used this... AudiophileOptimizer

2013-11-28 Thread garym

As folks have explained, given the way squeezeboxes work, there is no
possibility that these tweaks can affect the sound quality from a SB
player. It is not a matter of trial and error or empirical testing or
magic. The engineering of the SB player and server makes any effect of
the tweaks you reference impossible. 

So yes, I haven't personally tested. I haven't tested whether the earth
orbits the sun lately either. ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone used this... AudiophileOptimizer

2013-11-28 Thread w3wilkes

Just for grins and giggles, even though I would hope you all know which
camp I'm in from other posts regarding whether these type tweaks can
have a effect on the music...

The test of disconnecting the SB player from the server doesn't really
prove that tweaking the server can't affect the sound. The reason is
that the data in the buffer of the SB player had already been damaged
by the server before it was delivered to the SB player. just like the
data in this post was damaged by my PC before I hit the submit button.
Hey, how did that j starting the last sentence get changed to lower
case?? ;-) It wouldn't have happened if I'd cut down on the 100+
processes running on my PC!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone used this... AudiophileOptimizer

2013-11-28 Thread Mnyb

garym wrote: 
 So true. Double blind tests could solve a lot of issues and answer a lot
 of questions regarding differences (as they do every day in the worlds
 of medicine, science, and engineering). But they'd be out of business if
 they did this. To paraphrase P.T. Barnum (??), There's a sucker born
 every minute and there are magical audio solution sellers waiting in
 line to attract them as customers.

In this case a dbt would have been the last effort in the unlikely event
something happened .

A simple measurement would have done it .

Let's not loose focus on the fact that this kind of app can't affect
what stored in the player buffer off a squeezebox .

And no the data is not homeopathic it can't remember it's previus
treatment ;) 

But for more grins and giggles , people are trying to tweak everything
with minimum buffers and gets drop outs ? :P
( see our software player treads, or the TT treads ) this is not the
same buffer admittedly .
This actually gives another mechanism where tweaking can work  , break
it ! If it's sounds different you declare that better .
But this would not benthencase here innthe context of using a squeezebox
.




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