Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread audiomuze

ralphpnj wrote: 
> ...handles my rather large music library. Basically what really
> intrigues my about Roon is the rich and robust metadata along with, as
> you so nicely put it, the leveraging of that metadata enhance one's
> listening experience, an area where Muso, though pretty good, still
> falls well short.What do you term "rather large"?  I'm running 22.6k albums/ 
> 334k tracks
located on an Arch Linux based i3.  Roon's running on win server 2012 R2
on an old Asus P5E64 WS Pro board (iX38 Intel ICH9R chipset) with 8GB
DDR3-1333, Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 and it's very responsive. 
Searches are a lot quicker than via iPeng and faster than LMS.  I used
to keep LMS' database on a ramdisk and performance was great.

I don't think there's anything out there that delivers as rich and
immersive an experience iro leveraging metadata to enhance your
listening experience.  As a simple example LMS is great at surfacing
links between artists and tracks if you've captured that data.  With
Roon you don't have to have captured that data... more often than not
Roon knows who's appeared on a track so you end up finding instances
where a favourite artist has appeared elsewhere in your library that you
had no idea of.

A pet hate I have iro LMS and all the wifi apps is that when you browse
an artist you're presented with a long mixed bag laundry list of
everything they've appeared in that's surfaced by your tags - their
albums, appearances, compilations, bootlegs all mixed together in one
glorious mess...good luck finding an album you're after if you have a
lot of compilations.  Roon sorts that lot and presents them on the same
screen differentiating between main albums, singles and EPs, appearances
on other artist's albums and then compilations.  I gave up asking for
this in LMS.

It also lists Similar To, Followed by, Influenced by and Associated with
that appears in your library (which can incorporate Tidal albums
seamlessly).

There's work to do on Classical music and metadata editing/
customization within Roon's database and it's underway...I've no doubt
the end result will be fantastic...the Roon team are music lovers and
they get it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread adyc

Roon do not handle classical music as well as LMS with custom
browse/scan plugins. They also acknowledge this weakness. Unless they
improve on this aspect, I will stick with LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread ralphpnj

audiomuze wrote: 
> I am, I have a perpetual license somewhere in an email as I was one of
> the original testers.  I haven't used it in some time though as I'm
> principally a Linux user.
> 
> Roon basically embodies just about everything I could want from a music
> server, it's metadata rich, it can use its own metadata or yours or
> both, leverages the metadata to enable exploration of your music, it's
> fast, enables filtering of browsing/playback by multiple criteria, has
> artist biographies, album reviews, lyrics etc. and streams bit-perfect
> audio.
> 
> I saw your comment re wishing Roon had a plugin for LMS.  Truth is it
> doesn't need it, just download and install it and point it to your
> library as a Watched Folder (don't use Organised folder unless you want
> it to move your files).  Terminate LMS and enable Squeezebox support in
> Roon and your SBx players will appear within Roon.  14 day free trial,
> nothing to lose.


Thanks for the quick reply and the useful information. I may give the
free trail a try and see how well Roon handles my rather large music
library. Basically what really intrigues my about Roon is the rich and
robust metadata along with, as you so nicely put it, the leveraging of
that metadata enhance one's listening experience, an area where Muso,
though pretty good, still falls well short.



Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. &
sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1
& Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2016-02-06 Thread blscorp

PS that's LMS 7.7.5 on Windows 7



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread audiomuze

ralphpnj wrote: 
> First are you familiar with Muso?I am, I have a perpetual license somewhere 
> in an email as I was one of
the original testers.  I haven't used it in some time though as I'm
principally a Linux user.

Roon basically embodies just about everything I could want from a music
server, it's metadata rich, it can use its own metadata or yours or
both, leverages the metadata to enable exploration of your music, it's
fast, enables filtering of browsing/playback by multiple criteria, has
artist biographies, album reviews, lyrics etc. and streams bit-perfect
audio.

I saw your comment re wishing Roon had a plugin for LMS.  Truth is it
doesn't need it, just download and install it and point it to your
library as a Watched Folder (don't use Organised folder unless you want
it to move your files).  Terminate LMS and enable Squeezebox support in
Roon and your SBx players will appear within Roon.  14 day free trial,
nothing to lose.



SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI'
(http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC
SCA2'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/)
| 'ATC SCM100ASLT'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/)

*'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger'
(http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html):
'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most
Linux distributions.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2016-02-06 Thread blscorp

Where are the EQ presets stored?  I would like to delete and/or rename
some of them and can't find them in the Inguz related directories, nor
do I see corresponding entries in the .conf files

Thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread ralphpnj

audiomuze wrote: 
> Bought a lifetime Roon license and haven't looked back.  Currently using
> Squeezelite running on Wandboard Quads as transports.  Once Roon Bridge
> is released I doubt I'd continue using Squeezelite.  Roon aside, LMS
> remains the best and most versatile music server I've ever encountered. 
> Long live LMS and Squeezelite.
> 
> I still have a few factory sealed SBT's ... anyone interested in buying
> them?

I don't mean to be a pest but I do have a few simple questions about
using Roon versus using LMS along with programs like Muso.

First are you familiar with Muso?

If no then we're done.

If yes, then how does Roon compare with a program like Muso?

Thanks!



Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. &
sub
Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub
Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1
& Energy sub
Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0
Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar
Garage: SB3-JVC compact system
Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso
Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A nice review of the Roon software

2016-02-06 Thread audiomuze

Bought a lifetime Roon license and haven't looked back.  Currently using
Squeezelite running on Wandboard Quads as transports.  Once Roon Bridge
is released I doubt I'd continue using Squeezelite.  Roon aside, LMS
remains the best and most versatile music server I've ever encountered. 
Long live LMS and Squeezelite.



SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI'
(http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC
SCA2'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/)
| 'ATC SCM100ASLT'
(http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/)

*'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger'
(http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html):
'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most
Linux distributions.

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