Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
Flat frequency response with the Transporter, while the SB3 rolls off at the extremes. That's consistent with my listening tests. riffer;254139 Wrote: Also, here are the Squeezebox Measurements: http://www.stereophile.com/mediaservers/906slim/index3.html Considering its low price and the fact that it uses a minuscule wall-wart power supply, the Squeezebox measures very well. Its noise floor is higher than that of good CD players, but the excellent jitter rejection came as a welcome surprise -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter or SB question
I have a Rega Jupiter 2000 (very nice) and a SB3 in the same rig. The intent was to keep a few key CDs around (rotated) for playback through the Jupiter for the intense reference listening sessions (when the wife/kids aren't around... no basement listening room for me yet). The SB3 for internet radio / Sirius, and the rest of the music collection. What's happened is, despite the beauty of the Jupiter, I use the SB3 more often. The sonic trade-off is there, the Jupiter is far superior to the SB3 (however, the SB3 fares better, but still sounds congested, against the Rega Planet). I even thought about dumping the SB3 at one time, just to force myself to use the Jupiter more often. I almost convinced myself, thinking that I really only listen to 5-6 CDs in rotation at any one time (a holdover from the 5-disk changer days) So now, like GuyDebord, I'm thinking of going with the Transporter as a sole source. The Audiophile measurements look really good and I like how it will display in the rack. Guy -- how happy are you, truly, with the move away from the Saturn? Do you miss anything about it? SuperQ;252342 Wrote: Wow, the Saturn is a $2400 player, but doesn't even do XLR. The Pathos amp you have looks kinda neat. The sold wood remote for the amp is amusing :) -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A Photo of your Transporter setup, Please!
anselld;252914 Wrote: Its Naim Fraim. http://www.naim-audio.com/products/fraim.html That's the deal... Transporter with all Naim kit! Assuming you had a Naim CDP in there before the Transporter? Do you miss it? I'm thinking of replacing my Rega Jupiter with a Transporter (the rest of my gear is Rega... Cursa / Exon / Naos) -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41527 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any one tried isolating feet on their SB ?
GaryB;176375 Wrote: he willingness to draw conclusions without any experimental work is amazingly unscientific. ---Gary True. In the same sense that Placebo Effert is a very real scientific principle. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32301 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any one tried isolating feet on their SB ?
P Floding;176426 Wrote: Well, a metal case conducts electricity and modifies electrical and electromagnetical fields. I wouldn't rule out that a wood enclousure can make a difference to a component's behaviour. But also acts as an heat insulator not great for a warm/hot amp. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32301 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Coax - EH???
P Floding;176197 Wrote: (There are technical reasons for digital interconnects to sound different.) Are there any published measurements on the web I could review? I've never seen a technical reason, but only opinions and perceptions. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31733 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Coax - EH???
P Floding;171032 Wrote: I'd just like to emphasize that a 3 meter (9 foot) cheapo might beat a 1 meter (3 foot) $200 cable. I work for a major manufacturer of consumer products. We often test products that technically do absolutely nothing, yet consumers perceive benefits based on the marketing concept. Perceptions are everything. The only thing that often stops us are gov't regulations and, more importantly, theats of lawsuits form competitors. But no such regs on cable manufacturers. And the cable guys are careful to not make competitive claims, lest driving consumer doubt and skepticism. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31733 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile shops
thomsens;175554 Wrote: Point is, I think they really like pulling the vinyl out of the sleeve and putting the needle down. There is something to be said for that if it's what gets them going. I think that's a big part of it. The emotional connection is lost with 12,000 songs at one's immediate disposal. Pulling out the vinyl, cleaning the LP, droppping the needle -- complete with an intermission mid-way through -- requires a certain committment to the specific album in play. I have an LP player, but mostly for kicks. Also because there is a TON of material available, for cheap, at garage sales and swap meets. Its fun. But I don't fool myself that it's somehow better than CD. Listening to the first half of Kind of Blue, on LP, is a different kind of experience. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32232 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any one tried isolating feet on their SB ?
tomjtx;176192 Wrote: \ When Wayne of Bolder sent me the fullblown SB mods to audition he sent me 2 ebony pucks to place under the SB. I heard absolutely no difference. i suspect these things tweak your mind more than the SB:-) Makes me wonder about Bolder mods -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32301 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter on the cover of Stereophile, Feb 2007 issue
tomjtx;172139 Wrote: High praise indeed. Ayre= 6,000.00 TP 2,000.00 And he puts them in the same league. The ayre is the current darling of the audiophile world and is the reference for many hiGh end designers. (i heard Jeff Rowland has the Ayre AND the Transporter) Could someone point me to a negative Stereophile review of *anything*? Seriously... I'm not being cynical. I've never seen one. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31860 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestion: New mid-market player
Skunk;173930 Wrote: Black and Decker doesn't make high end drills! Dewalt does! Dewalt is owned by BD!!! And yet... Logitech is tossing the Slim Devices brand. See my other post on this subject. JW -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestion: New mid-market player
Mark Lanctot;173901 Wrote: Really? They can hardly meet demand. It's far exceeded their expectations. Also you can bet there's a lot more margin in the Transporter than the Squeezebox. 'Course you don't get the volume... Lots of companies have lost lots of money catering to the classes on supposed high margin products. The market for *any* type of $2,000 audio source component is limited. Imagine if Slim had put reosurces against a mainstream audiophile component? But lots of companies do this - a high-end testbed that pioneers certain concepts which eventually trickle down to the mainstream products. Slim Devices have in fact specifically said so. And they're not much for saying things about upcoming products, so this speaks volumes. Right -- companies with money to burn. If I were an investor in Slim, I'd be asking serious questions about how development resources are being allocated. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestion: New mid-market player
Eric Carroll;173940 Wrote: The price of many of the components, such as many of the DACs are available on the Internet. Check out some of the volume pricing - the cost of DACs is not as high as you seem to think. I think there is lots of margin in the Tp. And I bought it anyway. I never mentioned profit margin on cost of goods! I doubt that much money is being made on the Transporter, nor to I believe it's helping Slim Devices towards profitability. Read what people post! -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestion: New mid-market player
USAudio;172714 Wrote: Just finished reading a review of the Transporter in Stereophile magazine and the article reinforced something I (and I'm sure many others) have been thinking about for sometime. Slim Devices needs a player that fits somewhere between the SqueezeBox and Transporter. The Transporter is pure masturbation on the part of Slim Devices, and a completely unnecessary product. Logitech doesn't make high-end stereo componentry! I could see a $599 Audiophile Grade product with upgraded DACs (e.g., Dual Wolfsons) and a class A output stage. Something to compete with the Arcam CD73, Rotel RCD-1072, Rega Apollo, and other entry level audiophile CD players. This was Slim's chance to impact music listening behaviors in a fairly significant way, but overshot with the Transporter. Can't imagine much money is being made here, if even helping Slim break even. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Lossless Downloads
Jitterbug;170241 Wrote: It does seem that buying CDs is still the preferred option. -Also, I see it as the spirit of the squeezebox - a further move to a purely digital medium Well, to nit-pick, the CD *is* a purely digital medium. -- FatElvis2000 FatElvis2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31616 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
