[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-07-11 Thread TiredLegs

kjg Wrote: 
 Isn't that what transcoding is? :)
I think the difference in this case is that FLAC decoding, being
lossless, just restores the original data, which would then be encoded
in WMA. I would only consider it transcoding if you are going from one
lossy compression to another.

The issue with transcoding is that it compounds compression artifacts,
but with FLAC, there ain't no such artifacts, so regardless of the
semantics of whether or not we call it transcoding, going from FLAC to
WMA is no worse than just ripping to WMA.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-28 Thread Ken
It seems as though dbPowerAmp will transcode FLAC to all types of WMA. 
Check them out at http://www.dbpoweramp.com/.


tamanaco wrote:

I looked and searched (as much as I could) in the Hydrogenaudio forum
and the foobar forum for specific instructions on converting lossless
Flac to loosy VBR WMA, but I could not find specific instructions. Is
anyone out there using foobar to conver Flac to VBR WMA? If you are,
can you please post the version of foobar that you're using and the
settings?

I'm still waiting for a answer to a post I placed in the MediaCoder
forum regarding the error that I'm getting with that tool.

There's gotta be a better way to do this. Too many forums... too many
posts... too many folks expecting everyone to be an expert. Folks in
the Hydrogenaudio forum are not too friendly to those that are
searching for answers related to wma. All I get is pressure to switch
to mp3 and use Lame. Maybe this is good advise for some, but is not
what I want to do.


  


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-28 Thread funkstar

kjg Wrote: 
 Isn't that what transcoding is? :)
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcoding
i always assumed real transcoding was a one step process and didn't
involve just decoding and re-encoding. But thinking about it, you are
right. doing it in one process would be horrendously difficult if not
impossible.

anyway, this is getting OT and pointless :)


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-28 Thread tamanaco

kjg Wrote: 
 It seems as though dbPowerAmp will transcode FLAC to all types of WMA. 
 

Thanks kjg, yes, DbpowerAMP transcodes FLAC to WMA. Unless I find a
better alternative, it looks like I'll be ripping to FLAC using EAC and
then selecting (clicking) a subset of these files using explorer and
right-clicking the selected files to invoke Dbpower to convert them to
WMA.

I was looking for a tool(s) or script that could work in conjunction
with EAC to rip the full album to FLAC and a full set or subset of the
songs of the same CD to WMA in a few clicks. My assumptions, correct me
if I'm wrong, was that the tools suggested here (MediaCore, foobar and
Mareo) would coordinate these tasks, to some degree, with EAC. I'm just
looking for a way to streamline the process as it's taking a long time
to rip all my CDs. My next task is to give Mareo a few twists.

Thanks again...


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-27 Thread funkstar

tamanaco Wrote: 
 Another question: Can someone tell me if it is necesary to trancode Flac
 to another looseless format before I can convert it to WMA? I'm starting
 to suspect that the WME does not transcode directly from Flac. I'm new
 at this audio file conversion stuff.
Wouldn't make a difference. What FooBar (or any other app you are using
to transcode) is actually just decoding and re-encoding seamlessly. The
FLAC file is being decoded by flac.exe and the resulting data is being
pumped into the encoder that is generating the WMAL file.

I use the flac2mp3.pl Perl script to transcode my FLAC files to MP3.
When i open the task manager i see both flac.exe and lame.exe consuming
processor cycles. This will be roughly the same with whatever software
you use.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-27 Thread Robin Bowes
funkstar wrote:
  I use the flac2mp3.pl Perl script to transcode my FLAC files to MP3.
 When i open the task manager i see both flac.exe and lame.exe consuming
 processor cycles. This will be roughly the same with whatever software
 you use.

I bet lame is using considerable more CPU than flac!

R.

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-27 Thread funkstar

Robin Bowes Wrote: 
 I bet lame is using considerable more CPU than flac!
indeed. FLAC isn't exactly demanding for a 1.6ghz Centrino laptop to
decode :)

but it does illustrate that you are not *really* transcoding one format
into another, but decoding and then re-encoding.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-27 Thread Ken

funkstar wrote:
Robin Bowes Wrote: 
  
but it does illustrate that you are not *really* transcoding one format

into another, but decoding and then re-encoding.

  


Isn't that what transcoding is? :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcoding

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-27 Thread tamanaco

I looked and searched (as much as I could) in the Hydrogenaudio forum
and the foobar forum for specific instructions on converting lossless
Flac to loosy VBR WMA, but I could not find specific instructions. Is
anyone out there using foobar to conver Flac to VBR WMA? If you are,
can you please post the version of foobar that you're using and the
settings?

I'm still waiting for a answer to a post I placed in the MediaCoder
forum regarding the error that I'm getting with that tool.

There's gotta be a better way to do this. Too many forums... too many
posts... too many folks expecting everyone to be an expert. Folks in
the Hydrogenaudio forum are not too friendly to those that are
searching for answers related to wma. All I get is pressure to switch
to mp3 and use Lame. Maybe this is good advise for some, but is not
what I want to do.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-26 Thread ceejay

tamanaco Wrote: 
 
 I think I read somewhere that EAC can be configured to Rip to more than
 one format at time. Does anyone know where I can find detailed
 information on how to do this?
 
 

I use MAREO http://www.webearce.com.ar/ - its free and very
configurable.  Like EAC itself, it takes a little setting up but once
you've done it you don't need to worry about it again.

Ceejay


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-26 Thread tamanaco

opaqueice, ceejay, thanks... I'll be playing with these tools as soon as
I get a chance. I'll do anything (except paying someone else) to reduce
the number of steps/time I need to rip my CDs. Currently, I have a four
step process.

1.- Rip CD to flac using EAC
2.- Use foobar to add Replaygain
3.- Use WMP to get the album art  
4.- (new step) Using one of the tools recommended here to rip or
convert a subset of the albums' tracks to WMA for my DAP. 
5.- Move/Copy the resulting ripped files to the Slimserver and to the
laptop I use to copy music to my DAP


I'm currently using two laptops and my Slimserver computer to rip 3 cds
at a time. Sometimes while ripping one CD and moving to the next
computer I forget if I have already removed the leading/trailing
silence gaps or if I have already used foobar to add Replaygain. Beside
the tools suggested here, I'm also going to look at Album Art Aggregator
to see if it saves me some time. It would be nice if someone out there
has already found a way to make the five steps above a ONE-CLICK
process after inserting the CD. I know that for the wma subset I'd have
select which songs I want for my DAP, but that should make my nightmare
a two step process. So far I've been spending most of my time off
ripping CDs... The wife is starting to question the wisdom of
digitizing all these CDs at the cost of my (our) summer leisure time.
Last words out of her mouth... When are you going to find time to
LISTEN to the music?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-26 Thread dangerous_dom

tamanaco Wrote: 
 
 I think I read somewhere that EAC can be configured to Rip to more than
 one format at time. Does anyone know where I can find detailed
 information on how to do this?

Yes, on the god like knowledge base that is hydrogen audio -
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php - check the WiKi and the
forums.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-26 Thread joncourage

MAREO is a great tool for ripping to multiple formats automatically (I
rip to FLAC and VBR mp3 for portables).  Can be a little tricky to get
setup but once setup requires no maintenance, it just works in the
background getting the job done.  I set it to send FLACs to one
directory and MP3s to a separate one, then I use the MP3 directory for
my portable devices.

Won't foobar convert to wma for you (I've used it to batch-convert FLAC
to MP3 successfully)?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Tool to convert flac to wma

2006-06-25 Thread opaqueice

tamanaco Wrote: 
 I have already ripped about 150 CDs out of my 500+ CDs library to flac
 using EAC. Now I'm looking for recommendations on a tool or tools to
 convert some of the flac files to wma vbr to use in my portable DAP.
 Preferably a free tool... if available.
 
 I think I read somewhere that EAC can be configured to Rip to more than
 one format at time. Does anyone know where I can find detailed
 information on how to do this?
 
 Using flac the process of digitizing my library is taking more time
 than I thought. I would like to kill two birds with one stone if
 possible. I want to rip the full CDs to flac and a subset of the tracks
 (the songs I want in my dap) to wma.
 
 Thanks

mediacoder (http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/) is a very nice, free
tool for transoding which supports FLAC and WMA among many formats. 
You can easily batch transcode groups of files, which may be more
convenient than trying to rip to two formats at once.


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