Re: [aur-general] TU application - raster
Sorry for the top-posting, but this guy is one of my heroes, get a +1 from an ex TU/dev :-) who cannot have a valid vote tho, hehe, good luck! On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:16 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > Hi Everyone. > > I'm Carsten - or Raster. > > Sponsors: eschwartz and shibumi agreed to +1 me > > I'm upstream founder of enlightenment, EFL, terminology and a few other > things. > I work at Arm in Cambridge, UK (and live here). I've been involved in OSS > and > releasing software since like 1995/96 or so for Linux (And other Unixen at > the > time). I've worked on several distributions - RedHat, Debian (made custom > variant, not upstream) and Tizen. I pretty much eat, breathe and sleep C, > and > of course that comes with the requisite "I can drive a shell script off a > cliff > gracefully" developer skill-set. Linux is my OS. I don't dual boot. All my > machines are Linux machines without booting into anything else and that's > been > the way for me for me since I got my first PC in 1996 after I had to give > up on > the Amiga. This PC then ran just Linux and nothing else (never saw a DOS or > Windows install). In fact all but 2 of my machines are Arch Linux > (Rockpro64 dev > board (debian SID) and my Ampere Emag aarch64 workstation (Ubuntu), my > pinephone has Manjaro for now which is kind-of-close to Arch...). > > I already maintain the AUR packages for efl-git, enlightenment-git, > rage-git, > efl-git-asan, enlightenment-git-asan and have for a long while now (also > co-maintain terminology-git). You can see that I'm responsive to issues > people > bring up and fix them pretty fast. I have done some edits to the arch wiki > as > well over time. > > I will admit - I haven't really touched the Arch forums... I'm really an > IRC/Email person, but I am on #archlinux, #archlinux-offtopic (and > #archlinux-arm) most of the time. > > I've been using arch as my primary/only distro now for maybe about 4-5 > years. > I like its simplicity and "don't patch/modify things from upstream unless > absolutely needed" policy (as an upstream I smile warmly at this > direction). > It's very developer friendly... and that's who I am. I also run ALARM on my > Rapsberry Pis. > > I do spend most of my effort on the upstream work on these E related > projects > as those are what I write, release, add features to and fix bugs in. > > I'm about as googlable as it gets: > > ras...@rasterman.com > http://www.rasterman.com > > I know that there are a lot of packages to maintain for a very small > number of > people, so I'm happy to help out. > > I'd be best at taking over or being co-maintainer of: > > * efl > * enlightenment > * terminology > > Other packages I can add to community: > > * rage (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rage - i maintain rage-git > already) > * evisum (https://www.enlightenment.org/news/2020-06-07-evisum-05-release) > > And in future any others that I think are past the bar of "worth including > in > Arch community rather than AUR" over time (there are ones brewing or > lurking > like EDI https://www.enlightenment.org/about-edi, Ephoto > https://www.enlightenment.org/about-ephoto, Enventor > https://www.enlightenment.org/about-enventor) > > I'd also be happy to help maintain packages I know I depend on and work > with > that might be a bit niche like: > > * packagekit > * ddcutil > > And in general just help attack anything that I know enough about to be a > bit > better than a bowl of dried up custard at that is in my general sphere of > knowledge/use. > > My PGP key hash: 04F7A0E31E08D3E08D39AFEBD147F94364295E8C > http://keys.gnupg.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0xD147F94364295E8C > > Looking forward to pitching in and making Arch better :) > > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com >
Re: [aur-general] a cpan2aur, npm2aur, gem2arch like utility for Python
On 30/01/14 00:56, John D Jones III wrote: I've been looking, but I haven't yet found a utility like cpan2aur or gem2arch, etc for Python 'eggs' or whatever they're called ;-) I use cpan2aur ( well it's underlying module parent ) rather prolifically maintaining my Perl AUR PKGBUILDs, I eventually would like to utilize gem2arch, nodejs-npm2aur etc to take on even more responsibility to ensure that Arch Linux is the home of language library usability awesomeness. Even though I don't like the Python paradigm, I can not be ignorant to the fact that people use it; even if it makes me sad to know people are using it. That said, is anyone aware of, or have plans to make, a pypi2aur like utility ? I'm just planning long term right now, until I perfect my Perl PKGBUILD build server, I won't bite off anything more, but eventually that will reach a mature status and my interests will soon change focus for the other languages. It really makes us (the world) sad that in 2014 you're still using perl.. :(. Now, for real, don't make comments like that ^, we don't want that kind of wars on our lists, ok?. Back to the point that you asked, I am not really sure but I remember I saw someone that made something like years ago and probably is abbandoned, i will check if I can find something, but python packaging it's more or less mechanical (I'm taking a gamble on the numbers but I think 70%~ of python packages have a similar PKGBUILD structure). Cheers -- Angel Velasquez Arch Linux Developer angvp @ irc.freenode.net http://www.angvp.com.ar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [aur-general] TUs and their following of the Bylaws
On 07/08/13 08:33, Xyne wrote: On 2013-08-02 15:40 -0300 Angel Velásquez wrote: Having that set, I am shocked about how the bylaws are being just used just for addition process, but for somehow are being ignored for stuff like quorum and removal procedures, some TUs look to otherside when we mention this subject. Can you more specific? Which bylaws have been ignored? When? By whom? As I was the one who brought up the issue of quorum, the implication is that I have been looking the other way on the rest of the bylaws. Is that what you meant to imply? So, what's the point of having a Bylaw if you will not follow it?, why don't modify it and remove that part that you don't want to be aware?, being a TU is not about just delivering packages and orphaning / splitting packages on the AUR, TUs must work as a group, and it used to be like that when I was part of the team (I still feel part of the team but seems that oficially I am not a TU, a corner case that is not well documented on the Bylaws btw). What exactly are you suggesting? What is there to do as a team that we are not doing as a team? This sounds a bit like when I was your age, bands were better and the lyrics meant something. If you mean there have been a number of additions to the team who have been relatively quiet members then I might agree, but that in itself is neither against our bylaws. It would only be a real problem if it prevented quorum, but so far it hasn't. Personally, I don't mind with having extra hands around even if they're idle most of the time. It's not like we're paying for extra upkeep. Of course, that doesn't mean that TU should be nothing more than an extra title in the community. I just don't see the TUs as a three-letter Greek fraternity. So, according to that, I don't want to say names (i did said those names on the irc channel when I found the quorum situation on the last SVP but as I've said nobody react .. bad bad bad, guys.. dissapointing I must say), but I still feel that TUs must do that, not a guy which is not completely a TU -yes, me-. I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of relevant discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that channel. Sometimes even important decisions are made there. That is not the place for it. This mailing list is the official means of TU communication. Don't show up here and casually mention that you have disclosed information there then withhold it here. It is petty and childish in my opinion. If you will say something about someone to a group of people when the person is not there, but won't say it again then the person is, then you probably shouldn't have said anything to begin with. Please check the last SVP and check who didn't voted, and some TU call the rest of the group for either following the Bylaws, or call for a modification of these Bylaws and allow these cases. The bylaws have been followed: active TUs that keep quorum from being established on a voting procedure for three consecutive voting procedures (they need not be on the same motion) are automatically brought up for removal procedure, by reason of unwarranted inactivity. I understand that you have spotted an issue with our adherence to the bylaws, but it is not clear to me what that issue is, so I do not know how to even begin addressing it. Supa easy, open the TU panel at the AUR, check who voted and who didn't on the lasts SVP (the last three or more if you want) .. make some decision about it, yeah we made the quorum but still, what about these people that is marked as active, do packaging stuff but are working isolated of the team? (seems to don't care about who we add or who we remove). After stirring the pot as somebody said to me, I consider that doing patches for the AUR is good, in order to make everybody aware and have no excuses for everyone. Let's see what's happens on the next SVP ;). Regards. -- Angel Velasquez Arch Linux Developer angvp @ irc.freenode.net http://www.angvp.com.ar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [aur-general] Putting bumblebee and friends into [community]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/13 09:53, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: Hi, I'd like to gather some opinions on this. I was thinking about putting bumblebee, primus and bbswitch into [community] as it doesn't look as though nvidia is going to fix this properly in their driver any time soon. I know about the GPL symbol drama and the supposed fix that is in mainline now but how long until nvidia releases a working driver that makes use of all that? Until then, I think bumblebee is an ok fix. For laptops with optimus, bumblebee is pretty much a necessity if you want any kind of battery life and acceptable sound levels. I have a laptop with optimus and use bumblebee all the time and I think it would make sense to have it in [community]. The sad fact is that bumblebee is currently the only working solution for optimus. I think you should move too many of the dependencies from aur to multilib too.. Normally I wouldn't ask the mailing list for something mundane as moving packages but as bbswitch is a kernel module and as bumblebee is not very highly regarded as a good solution even by its developers, I thought it'd make sense to ask here first before people got angry. +1 I suggested you to move this to community, i've prepared some of the packages that are on aur, i did plans to move this, but then on the way i am not using much bumblebee now .. so count with my support / help co-maintaining this. - -- Be a local everywhere! Angel Velasquez CTO/Co-Founder @ citibuddies Arch Linux Developer @citibuddies @angvp #citibuddies http://www.citibuddies.com http://www.angvp.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMvyWAAoJEEKh2xXsEzut9okIALAlhm1QhkYKzzsvbSjZejvf wJK50ODj5OgfdVN3xa6D7F8q9yruoZJ53shmohpvvmA0Rx0rlxTdRGyblHRGOHke iX7Fd/v8naeSxaxBzWW4fBQgw2WLAs1gea1xc6XvnITxo7eGYep0ccvIu+TA+fZf yCQ5vVO/6D51DQxhtRLJjLrG8PAslNQ6aEijetsOnnAwe8FtVfpizcV7eExPJ8fh OyAjxfPopzsP/UYu7hwFPQfupUufz74pnBqdwVc1kX4hngWURa7tAe7IDOyYxHI8 ERui2JYhoPN0H03xP81ZI+1VgbCrZAIPF7bm8qNooP4ziO1UCUSPm9GCKPrqmpg= =ZLlo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] Delete Package
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/02/13 02:43, Padfoot wrote: Lightdm-gtk2-1.o.6-3 was orphaned. I took over this package to request the package be deleted. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/lightdm-gtk2/ An up to date gtk2 greeter for lightdm is now provided for with lightdm-gtk2-greeter-1.5.1-1 Cheers. Done ;) - -- Be a local everywhere! Angel Velasquez CTO/Co-Founder @ citibuddies Arch Linux Developer @citibuddies @angvp #citibuddies http://www.citibuddies.com http://www.angvp.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRGzt8AAoJEEKh2xXsEzutv+AIAI7Kj89yHwfrNCmvP4rCLgbb kZI9vS7xxQfqoOnucBLx1AWZhrsXZmIhxTVUQiCbvYBtTpPvRCd0qA1Da+dcd0x+ 4NQVncwJe+/lHATqVfdftPLsvevGnRc44/yK3NH4ZkFf4S2zc9LOUsAYW6YtN6V8 hhfX3PJPlhgI+ZTl/3wiAMVuW8BkXE1+P9ljbvVZOzgMdf3z4ayXitmjzFRcZ8+d sYtbbVDRCX2XDvwl8l+MxRmn0Mo2JRFKnELakhwPPKtithZrYx+PF3Xwju0xk3sz L6BS30Ll5XUDMfLlWUV45mKLc9lVCb7IzYTOywsk836eGOhQzketVIJQdH8Pghk= =Zc+7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: rabbitmq-systemd-unit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23/11/12 15:16, Gianni Vialetto wrote: Hi, could someone remove my rabbitmq-systemd-unit package [1]? With the new release of rabbitmq i merged it in the AUR rabbitmq package [2], so now it's redundant. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rabbitmq-systemd-unit/ [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/rabbitmq/ Done, Thanks for rabbitmq in AUR anyway :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQr7/oAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutPxMIALclwfnE84vVOj9KYQEB4GtK 3HTg1u102nQY9TwNyxa42npdT/IqAoveu9GV8F9G9kq9sQ+TdxC2weuo9VJaxnsK nlNlN19wX6z1mcNgJkCIOFeqI0o6SP+uEXJtlALQJl8c7etEIZmhf/m/SjjtTZ/E AespwvhpHSGNHdzN6B7hfZ9p6ZCVC3DABtyndNHtXSrx9aHi9+AnIz62Xrrl/L03 +g378xCbCn0hQ9TS/cGHFaXqLthWhcKd/9riAAZtv6VDWddt1Y3uM+5ZnOzsBPwr 9c0jyJCEWpOq4FF2fOhmyOiCy75KwD5orbIJPr24JRzH/1zaR3VztA99g6Nsf9Y= =dZ0Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Jonathan Steel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/12 14:58, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: On 01.09.2012 01:40, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: Ok chaps, time's up. Let's vote: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=60 The vote is still going but we could effectively stop it right there because it's impossible to change the decision at this point even if every remaining TU voted no. Can we stop it at this point? WTF dude, let the process finish. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQRkLTAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutGpYH/1/74fqavPxFHYMA1x66M7oJ jTKfOi3Q6PmW0z/HpMWBjGxDOuV/kK6TgpKgjI/rkeIJu+EgDquwz1iM3Jh7On3E lz3pRQCEjZ7j3w7W9XONW+94mH7V+yBJo9qLIYlvDhfhnvXdRJ6NCTaH65lBSL47 qQIdVSQqOsgRebMYUvY5MBXidPaQCD6sHduoOJBGwKXR2KB2CquwcVw+Qw2uNAXs 7j+Z5QDsku/W0cAEAzAQvmrZR7o0zm9Q81geL7cPTXsKqh4wB9psbaOR+13iub/e KCcMAV4jjc7dgIrI7pmObZ1wyX39N9EqLcbxewt1tfyXiOHa/Llgls788n1/CM8= =+aVA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder
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On 01/03/12 05:47, Peter Lewis wrote:
Hi Ike,
Thanks for applying :-)
On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 08:33:17 Ike Devolder wrote:
Currently I'm using Archlinux as my primary operating system for
over 6 years and for several years I'm maintaining a small number
of packages in AUR[1]. I also keep a repository with arch
packages for everyone to use[2] and view the pkgbuilds on
github[3]. Originally the repository got created so i could
easily install some non-{core,extra,community}-packages on my
different computers.
Hi Ike!
I didn't get you by your name but by your nickname, oh yeah, as Allan
said I had a good memory about you, so this is good ;).
I had a quick look, and these packages all look pretty good to me.
It seems that you know your way around.
I would like to become a TU for several reasons:
- bring in some packages from AUR to community - apper (kde
packagekit frontend, the gnome/gtk ones are already in) - lcdproc
(drive your lcd displays) - closure-{compiler,linter} (googles
javascript toys) - vim-qt (or provide a patch for addition to the
extra package)
It would be nice to see another TU interested in KDE / Qt things
:-)
Good you have your goals.
Last but not least, my sponsor is Stéphane Gaudreault.
This is a bit picky of me, but technically the sponsor is supposed
to be a TU and as far as I can tell Stéphane is a dev rather than a
TU...
Good luck with the application!
Pete.
About this, as an ex-TU and ex-DEV I thought for Devs this should be
unnecesary, I mean Trusted Users are Trusted by the community but
first by the Devs (or nobody of TU would have access to our servers).
So if we trust you, and we doesn't oppose against your decitions of
who bring to the TU land, why TUs have to untrust Devs? IMHO TUs
should trust devs by default, and that means, no complains about TU
applications, have more sense to me. But please, I don't want to start
a debate in this thread, I don't was to make noise on the Ike's
application, if somebody want to reply me about it and start a
brainstorming, discussion or whatever please do it other thread.
That said, good luck with your application Ike, you have been an
impressive work and you're a good candidate.
- --
Angel Velásquez
angvp @ irc.freenode.net
Linux Counter: #359909
http://www.angvp.com
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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/12 10:06, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:11:21 -0500 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org: STOP. Heiko, you had the chance to express you opinion about this application (and you did it in a totally inappropiate way). I didn't do it in a inappropriate way. I did it in a factual way and explained why I am concerned and what was going wrong. I even said that I probably do him wrong with some of my questions. Nevertheless it's fact that this package couldn't be built. You can't argue it away. It was some other people who thought to need to offend me in an inappropriate way. So they get an adequate answer. REPEAT: Please stop such nonconstructive messages. Sorry, but my concerns aren't nonconstructive. But as the question, so the answer. Stop offending me, discuss in a factual way with me and you will get factual answers from me. If I'm so wrong with my concerns then explain it to me. I only got answers like grow up, AUR helpers are not officially supported even if split packages are not supported, neither officially nor unofficially, by AUR, Wow, I never seen somebody who maintains so many packages etc. Quantity is not the same as quality, btw. Give factual reasons why his packages are so good and I'm so wrong, and everything is good. Otherwise think if he is really that good and trustworthy resp. that his knowledge is already good enough. E.g. explain to me why a package needs to have two completely different depends arrays one also with a true before. For me this looks like bad packaging, sorry. Btw., I didn't want to say that he personally is not trustworthy. But I'm not sure if he has sufficient knowledge, yet. Heiko Heiko, I've always had several discussions with you, now Gaetan, and many people seems to have disagree with your opinion. A personal advice is when so much people are saying that you're wrong at least try to think about it and try to put on the otherside of the line. Gyorgy have good skills, and you personally are nothing to say that he doesn't have it, are you a TU? Dev? were you a Fellow, I don't remember on those sides, so please, stop complaining, start contributing, if you can't do this, then you will be remembered always like the noising user who like to break our balls. Now please let continue with Gyorgy's application. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPUMmmAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutdUMH+wRQNj45wrpqVwDpdDgWDXrE WuZDekUIYT81b8MOasPOq2gu9qDqanTuxyIYdzc09CY1xkY0ffm5v1mzYpwoGKx9 JAhekKB+AXBDhISGRVOpfYTjaC2WnrbuAtPF026ib3b5qEmSiMPnpP9sY0l2u7O/ PnWfmmVqKrK5hkvFgy2MX0kO6OTzaywqCLnvDhU/5O6qSsNzUmNxhlnXxYawcDTl NMJETbzFgso8pVnbMRiyxeCCjzVcLz9GzmxzKlq3/yTvFPmqCamJQrNTIUGAhyZ5 j6PwF6Kbd35/zFp8Oo7kiCJ/RBGbAXGW5ZSXi6vAcgAtYwdDvfjXUM6TdbnapZU= =ZFHD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/12 15:00, Balló György wrote: Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free time I like surfing on the net, contributing to OpenStreetMap, bicycling, hiking, take photos about trams, and of course, packaging. Hi György, which languages do you use to develop web? .. I really like Arch Linux's transparency, the pacman and the build system, the website and the great wiki. I'm maintaining packages[1] a long time ago, and I already contributed to wiki by creating a page about libcanberra[2], and updated, extended some other articles. I reported many issues[3] with GNOME packages (including upstream and packaging bugs) to make Arch Linux better. I usually try to find the solution and send patch to upstream if needed before open bug reports. I helped to Ioni e.g. on updating some C# packages, and I also cooperated with AndyRTR on splitting out extensions from libreoffice package. I currently have 150 packages in AUR with a total of 5775 votes. I already maintain more than 200 packages as source packages on github[4] and as built i686 packages in my [ayatana] repo[5]. I don't want to move all of these packages to [community], only the popular ones. I always try to make the best packages and I hate poorly written PKGBUILDs. Some packages that I would like to add to [community]: - deja-dup (115 votes) - gwibber (299 votes) - pinta (186 votes) Some orphan packages in [community] that I could adopt: - agave - buoh My goal with becoming a TU is to provide more popular GTK+ applications in [community] and keep GNOME stable and consistent by fixing packages on large updates if needed. I hope that I could support Arch Linux as a TU in the next months and years. Alexander Rødseth is my sponsor. Best regards, György Balló My PGP key: https://raw.github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository/master/ballog...@gmail.com-public.asc [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=City-busz [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libcanberra [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=1status[]=opened=City-buszdo=index [4] https://github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository [5] http://ayatana.info/ Impressive, I like your application. Glad to see good candidates applying to be part of the crew. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPT8M2AAoJEEKh2xXsEzuthW8IAIy8Kj66DhvvLj6cQFqj86WQ KV/5VGH8FQP/OZCoTVKhlXNKbn0efPcMYGMcp8W3nIpcpKw6hLPiLm1c3DU9SVs8 Z8LA6i9uD8TF62yI1dEperLfpha8vQOz+UBvpaGPtNTY34tfUsQASgsWrxKt9UTQ Ub9GDnfJakLoOTBI3gugASM7AS0Xnw/NX9hP3BY+wTQuuUoLSuI/G4qivzNzgt0v nsmxrLFRe181RyUknh6UkajtYrOlwB3YYeEScGHKCxhIahBXrzObclgFzwtQoU3g Is638MV075vhunw9nJlBpshngoXNIBPqO9RJ84CiOAl09+npfNRne8TDKGUIZ+U= =IsLm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[aur-general] TU Resignation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. I don't have much time right now, so I decided to resign. Sorry for the last delays and crappy things that i've been doing lately. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPRlmrAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutoWAH/2jHWPrFJtRLBy9NMv1W8bwH q1uV+cX+LuUKCEpTcgOpcCc+K2mEWokhfeH75Me7DKRStCI7DyWPQwrMJduYQocv 9MYoBf6gNKrl+x1XvW59JEWNEZnKjdEh5yprL9HC0f7ytCGk4wbOQEeA7ynZZlMU p+ivq/RGV+zs/89NBYw210pmJAN/t5x+IryObHDXEleWB497S1MlFUOu4I+RQSqP 2OwYg3oRqCuw6/rekc35O+7lgZduFWylIyUx/cw4giUXvpwIGORHxJT3T+T4/OIP ++rOevMpqJjni/myd0vwnpp1o3OEmq3QlxCmczRlrk+oo8pOT5mb/dLz50hDi7A= =o8Qn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] Drop mplayer2 from [community]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/12 22:01, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: Mplayer2 was very promising last year when they forked from the original mplayer project. One of the main goal of this project was to provide more frequent release and updates. Unfortunatly, they failled to provide something else after the initial release. This initial release no longer build with current tools/libs and contain several major bugs. A workaround was to update our pkg to a recent git snapshot. Since then, I do not see any reason to continue to update this package which is currently broken. If there is no objection, I will drop the package from [community]. Users should consider to follow mplayer2-git from AUR or the original mplayer from [extra]. Cheers, Stéphane If it's broken move it to AUR .. or ask if some tu wants to maintain on community. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPA6qaAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutg5YH/AsUvTTlxj6NPntsfNasrRwG U+0PYIXvGrx/AB+IVBsEvOGP9GBeRJVAM3TDQMrm6bqPszW5fH7B2jn/kix7PSlu pPWfhXmA2qbVWfFVgGpsYT2vFHwn20ezdxFYvGkfkrA9xU9NyzUNlraFe2aIdokF FeHM0BMUxiJCwariI0OCPOPSZ6LSmGQxIhTIDgelXpujFXVzYgl4Ykz3mNNP0iOp 5weFptJvDpMlm4uCyMpHRV2Cj9k5wPLjCik5J7FcTbUzzcLwb4pqogszFlkUw+83 PQgpuveSRbp/LrUIXkCaSe004+jyUTLTWG+6PhX9HTwDthlTHJWrsU8R1f6SuRI= =FRsy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] Drop mplayer2 from [community]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/12 22:35, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Tue, 03 Jan 2012 22:25:46 -0300 schrieb Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.org: If it's broken move it to AUR .. or ask if some tu wants to maintain on community. If it's broken and doesn't compile anymore, why should it be moved to AUR? Just drop it. Heiko Because if maybe somebody find it orphan and lonely and knows how to fix it, can adopt it ;) instead to re-upload to AUR .. can be moved to AUR and with a comment that is broken. Usually our workflow is that .. going to AUR and if it's dead and unbuildable by some time.. then just drop it. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPA64OAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutccAH+wV1h4qOF5UAkmaBhNzoduLP 3lO7A0XvvvJAM9+CDSG3TMgbuI151/gvd/nUS02qdztxO3OP8E6zRSMS3AMCWJOX Fq1JRqYB0XAU6w8RmBYwR/Ey1ngfoR1CPVcJf0Xv1l181tMYsC5uYUo6b+SC8iCj u+Qml91/jdPWURroZoa/E4Jq+IzoiAhfQye2RwHMiKFZzagH5pnTDMOicAP3fHR/ Go6jENtU2vErlvdxKBOLt1CEunYZwJD2/BrMVRP8caJQX/UmW7q2dAvC/u1VfGWe oyiQvUblO1gZaAGNAqpD/jBal453610gd/goTVIqaMeAjWlyAsFykWjqrTGXgpw= =v33B -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] Merry Christmas!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 24/12/11 12:08, WorMzy Tykashi wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:37:22 +0800 郑文辉(Techlive Zheng) techlivezh...@gmail.com wrote: All Arch Linuxer, Merry Christmas,have a nice holiday! Merry Christmas everyone! May you all consume copious amounts of food and alcohol (within reason!) and enjoy yourselves. :D Oh yeah.. this ^ is the whole point of today :D. Merry Christmas to all of you anyway. - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO9frDAAoJEEKh2xXsEzutSpIIAJP/GxigS/alVuG4iyL/RG0H uLBJkVldp6OSt+mOi4vcnj1eW2jqasg5YN9yRL0F18GzPGghwsDoW6RsGexS2hM+ vcpy7goHI9yBPxWJacRZi+YKyDZt/r2L6PEAV8pqiBum2OQ7m08DsNMpdCuXIPRZ maDFkzCEGMexnQcA3ch0tJgh63HzYlcQIajnW4SEi7rwgw6EBodYEMyRrTXZUwn6 mgNoylMPXUbdTLW3Gfic0pv2IJ2QBwuCc5SFaPmNf9PipOb2XidTGbPXTc6PKc0X cMxJvPz5Pjpp57CPnN7HLgGqeeZmrQochorU/drVLIk+Z0aVrF8HM+5GA+Tsp30= =LrvY -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [aur-general] [PATCH] Added handling of ctrl-c
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/12/11 07:50, Alexander Rødseth wrote: To my defence, the wiki also had it wrong: If you have a patch (fixing a bug or a new namcap module), then you can send it to the arch-general mailing list. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Namcap#What_is_it.3F - Alexander HAHA don't you realize that you're sending this thread to aur-general right? pwned. Glasses are good, you know? ahahaha - -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO4e3wAAoJEEKh2xXsEzut0JMH/3XVWsR2DSPntqw0yFVxMIzp LlEL5x8tGimvDQparSn6NSMYTv7m1ra4d4bc7tbD5pEWiYoqdlv1KpgZ557LRB2x vZBYP7lHWXwkXFRtSBEdes+92zOn1a6GsAxd4+JSqTmmQHuA94e/aSsDRAFGYU3x BPnWM5m8mBvH7FXNOWf7LQM8UiDg26nglrVEFaLp4CE3d+93sQ+lbfU/PNkoc1vu Z5uLEfi0U3dlKGTWeIlpCKL/QF7kw2A+0NPWV1a1Tss11//zRxnI1o9ZarfcIvAc 7aGRtMYM/Xk3prK8XPzAQBNeI7kbCuZzRpPE1f1w4RkBu+axJpuRyOO5k60ULzY= =XQfj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[aur-general] Partially Inactive again
Hi guys, Since I am moving and I was doing my builds on my office through pkgbuild.com server (which is down from far 2 weeks) I've tried to do the rebuilds at my new home and my 3g phone connection. Of course, hdspa have their limitants and I can't upload or download quick or without issues in most of cases. I am getting a new connection from home, but they will install it until end of this September :/. So if pkgbuild.com server came back, I will update of course from home, but from now, I am needing some help, please feel free to update packages that I maintain and rebuilt them, I have some of them rebuilt, but I cannot upload them because of this network issue. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Trusted User Application
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Jonathan Conder j...@skurvy.no-ip.org wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to apply to become a Trusted User. Ionuț/wonder has kindly agreed to sponsor me. Anyway, here is some info about me: snip I reviewed a couple of links that you gave us and seems that you know about bug hunting, and if Allan and Ionut supports you, I don't have any doubt that you're qualified. Good luck anyway! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Moving some popular games from AUR to community
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: On 15.08.2010 08:20, Allan McRae wrote: On 15/08/10 15:47, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: I'd like to move the following games from AUR but I wanted to avoid any potential tears this time, thus I'm posting my sinister intentions here first. ... supertuxkart ... That was in [community] not to long ago but I dropped it when no-one offered to take over maintenance. I don't think I was a TU by the time that it was dropped but I'd take it now. Isn't ufoai massive? Allan UFO:AI is 5M + 500M. It's one of the bigger packages for sure. Along with the potential Urban Terror 700M. It's up there with Nexuiz 870M and VDrift 515M. It's not a problem for our mirrors as the Arch binary repos are completely dwarfed by other distributions. It's also not a maintenance issue for me as I got the needed uplink to upload these from time to time. Besides, I don't think there will be a lot more big packages to come after these, at least in the near future. Well, I am not against those games.. and stuff, but, if adding 6 games == ~3GB .. repos will have to syncronize and waste a lot of bandwith with these games. I'd say that since games are popular they should have their own repo .. like [games] (please don't kill me), last time I said that was because of nexuiz .. so people who like to have some repos, can decide if download games or not... (I particurarly won't do it for my personal purposes since I don't use to game, not in pc, not in Linux, not now :P). But if those packages are popular and maintainer can handle the bandwidth and mirrors won't complain about it, im fine with it. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 70, Issue 13
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Sun 15 Aug 2010 15:08 +0300, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Stijn Segers gotleenu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mind seeing packages moved into [community], much to the contrary. But as Xyne said, communication would be nice. If some TU were to ask me 'can I adopt this package and put it in [community]', why would I say no? Why would anyone, for that matter? :-) What's the point of asking then? To waste everyone's time? : D It's part of life really. People like to feel important and appreciated. Niceties are what grease the wheels of society. You may end up with a happier and more productive community if you can practice them within reason.. I'd just like to be noticed before, and not after. Of course it's not a democracy, but communication isn't a synonym of democracy ;-). I think leaving a comment on the package's page before stealing it is enough. The maintainer should get notified via e-mail if he has enabled notifications for that package (which for new packages is enabled by default). We really want a happy community? jokethen let's gell joints for everybody ! .. /joke Now serious (it's obvious that a peaceful place to work will motivate you to work in), I try to write to the maintainer a little note, or comment, in fact if I am moving packages of one user in specific I say him dude apply to be a TU (it's happened to me twice). When I was a user the fact of the tu getting a package for me was an honour is was like, and that makes me happy, but we are all different, so .. I remember people who dislike the idea of why you will take MY package those users are the dangerous, packages belongs to the distro, not people, devs, tus, and users should practice that IMO. Btw, Stijn Segers try to don't reply on a digest, is kinda hard to understand.. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] please orphan all my packages
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mL=2K=xenoterracide thanks -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] please orphan all my packages
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Mon 02 Aug 2010 14:20 -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mL=2K=xenoterracide Done Hah I would have told him to do it himself. Haha http://www.archlinux.org/news/506/ hahaha .. this is just to funny :) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] please orphan all my packages
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: You're just as capable as an TU in that respect. well then thank you Angel for making my life easier. Your welcome. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] orphan request for gallery
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Moritz Rudert hel...@cyb0rg.org wrote: Hello, can you please orphan gallery (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29171) because it hasnt updated long time. Thanks helios Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please orphan the adobe-air package or assign it to me
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Xavion xavio...@gmail.com wrote: Please read the comments at the bottom of the webpagehttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16940for the adobe-air package. You'll notice that the maintainer has ignored my request from over a fortnight ago to update the PKGBUILD. It's important that this is done soon, due to a serious security vulnerability that Adobe has now fixed. Orphaned, adopt it -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] trusted users business
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i've compiled a list of votes from the last 6 proposals just to see if it happened by accident to not vote. http://dev.archlinux.org/~ibiru/votes.txt from this only 3 users didn't vote for more than 3 times. Ranguvar, swiergot and vegai. From our wiki none are marked as inactive. Ranguvar i know he's active in this list, not so much in voting, swiergot i don't remember him at all, vegai i guess is busy. What happened guys? -- Ionuț Quoting the TU Bylaws Quote section: This section deals with quorums, and the consequences for those that repeatedly keep the group from meeting them. Quorums were established to make sure that all TUs are having a say in the matters that they vote on, and to ensure that TUs remain active in the job that they have taken on. All active TUs should be participating in discussions and voting procedures in order to continue meeting the quorums. **For this reason, active TUs that keep quorum from being established on a voting procedure for three consecutive voting procedures (they need not be on the same motion) are automatically brought up for removal procedure, by reason of unwarranted inactivity. ** I don't wanna point anybody, I am in fact as a simply user and not tu, grateful with all people who contributes to Arch, but it's time to know who still in the boat... So IMO we should start a removal procedure for swiergot (Sorry Jaroslav is nothing personal, I don't know you), and going through with Ranguvar (who since he is relatively new, I will gave him a right of replication) .. and vegai don't know if still interested in TU Duties, we can ask him personally what happened.., he seems to be Active. So let's start the removal procedure for swiergot (who is pretty dissapeared). -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Orphan request: grisbi
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Christoph ch...@gmx.at wrote: The package grisbi http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1648 has not been updated, although a user (not me) suggested an updated PKGBUILD a month ago. The maintainer's e-mail address d...@brospower.comdoes not exist any longer. (Btw, grisbi is the only package owned by the user dab.) So could you please orphan it? Thanks, Christoph Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Developer / Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU application for Sven-Hendrik Haase
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: Whenever I'm not busy trying to create another cdrkit vs. cdrtools flame fest on the mailing list I'm generally trying to be helpful on the wiki, forums, IRC and AUR. I like being pedantic about things like replaces() vs. conflicts() + provides() or $startdir/src vs. $srcdir. In AUR I currently maintain 66 packages. My most important packages are multimedia/game development related though I tend to package whatever I think it useful or fun. While I'm aware that many Archers consider games wasteful in terms of time investment and disk space, I think the number of votes on my packages still make some of them same valid candidates for [community]. See my awe-inspiring list of packages: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=Svenstaro I'm rather interested in Python and since PyPy might become more important in the future I will continue to take good care of that package. Hi, Sven I remember you from some debates that you participated / created ;P. Nice one to see another Pythonist on the group. I'm somewhat involved or at least interested in the upstream development for some of my packages (SFML, Ogre3D, SFML, Gobby, Bullet, Box2D, -gallium). I like trying out new fancy things. I've used all major DEs and a bunch of WMs. I maintain my own live distribution closely based on Arch Linux and archiso (live.linux-gamers.net) and in the process of creating it wrote the archiso article for the wiki. You can maintain gobby-unstable and libinfinity if you got aproved, remember don't replace for now the stable release of gobby :). I care about guidelines and consistency, though I am aware that my AUR packages aren't all fully consistent. Working on that. On LinuxTag 2010, I openly promoted my religion using my Arch shirt together with a fellow Archer. We tried our best to sound like the condescending Arch jerks that we are. Just kidding. We showed-off Arch to quite a few people who were interested, though. We met quite a few unrelated Archers on the fair as well but they didn't seem to have as much Arch-esteem as we did. Arch shirt? pictures? Is it true that the secret TU tower is where all the girls are kept? All the good ones, yes, ;) Good luck with your application! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Voting period: Thomas Dziedzic(td123)
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: And the voting period has ended. The results are: 16 yes, 0 no, 1 abstain. So welcome Thomas as a new TU. Congratulations, td123!! Please follow the instruction from here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist You also need to send Aaron for the dev panel following the template from here: http://www.archlinux.org/trustedusers/ -- Ionuț Welcome aboard pal, Congratulations. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Voting period: Thomas Dziedzic(td123)
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: Hi TUs, It's voting time for Thomas Dziedzic's TU application. See discussion period here: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2010-June/009198.html -- Ionuț Easy man, voting period should start on Mon 14th :), even if there is nothing more to discuss :P -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] [arch-notifications] Orphan Community package [firehol] marked out-of-date
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Thorsten Töpper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:55:05 +0300 Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/10/2010 05:50 PM, Andrea Scarpino wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 16:18:06 Arch Website Notification wrote: FireHol is badly outdated, probably because the upstream devs quit releasing tarballs and use only CVS now. Firehol is now at version 1.293 (vs 1.273). get-iana.sh script was updated 2 days ago, because IANA file format changed, so the version this package provides won#39;t work at all. I#39;m using the latest CVS and it#39;s very stable. In my opinion the PKGBUILD should be updated to use the latest CVS version. Build Date: 2008-10-30 21:10:48 UTC Can I move it to AUR? +1 I also agree. -- +3 -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please delete my package gobby-dev
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: On 04.06.2010 00:44, Angel Velásquez wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/06/10 21:19, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: Hey, please delete my package gobby-dev (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27325) in AUR because somebody finally packaged gobby in the dev version for community and now my package is redundant. As a past maintainer of gobby all I can say is that 0.4.93 is UNSTABLE .. the last stable version is 0.4.12 which IMO is where our gobby binary package should be .. I will send a mail to sergej to see his thoughts. 0.4.93 is pretty good for me. I think 0.4.12 is almost unusable (no undo/redo). I like the decision of making -dev the standard version. Hmm 0.4.12 as I said is the *stable* version, 0.4.93 is the _experimental_ one, maybe 0.4.12 version lack of features that gobby 0.5.0 will have (0.4.9X branch is suposed to be the next 0.5.0 release IIRC when it will be finished, once again is a non-stable software). I don't like the idea of packaging experimental stuff, 0.4.93 is a snapshot of -not yet finished- software, but it's just my opinion. Thoughts of other Devs/TU/Users are apreciated :). -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please delete my package gobby-dev
Hello Angel, generally spoken you are right, but we should allow exceptions from that rule. We had an emacs-cvs package for years because that was the one people really used and despite being build from CVS it was damned stable. Yes but 0.4.12 was released after 0.4.93 .. they are handling the version number system in a strange way. See [1] How long does release 0.4.93 exist? If was not changed for long, we can consider it stable. The maintainer should be able to decide this. Release 0.4.93 exist since 20-12-2009, 8 days later they released a new _stable_ version (28-12-2009), as I said, the way that they are using to handling their version number is not correct at all, and it tends to confuse people, saying that 0.4.12 it was out-of-date. 0.4.93 uses libinfinity and split ot the net6 package .. net6 which still in [community] its for 0.4.12 at this moment doing nothing (because isn't required for other software) .. I am against update to 0.4.93, as I said, is not a stable release and they're still development stable releases under 0.4.XX branch and unstable into 0.4.9X branch (as you see this is kinda confusing).. This is not the case from emacs, in this case, should be more like the php case .. 5.2 vs 5.3 .. Copying again to sergej [1] http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/ Regards -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please delete my package gobby-dev
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/06/10 21:19, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: Hey, please delete my package gobby-dev (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=27325) in AUR because somebody finally packaged gobby in the dev version for community and now my package is redundant. As a past maintainer of gobby all I can say is that 0.4.93 is UNSTABLE .. the last stable version is 0.4.12 which IMO is where our gobby binary package should be .. I will send a mail to sergej to see his thoughts. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please orphan AUR package haskell-hsdns
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Peter Simons sim...@cryp.to wrote: Hi, the AUR package haskell-hsdns http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17745 has been out-of-date for quite a while. I tried to contact the maintainers, but unfortunately they are non-responsive. Please orphan the package on AUR so that I can take over maintenance. Take care, Peter Packages maintained by arch-haskell are updated in an automatic way with a tool developed by the arch haskell team, so maybe there is a reason for why that package isn't updated as well as others. Could you join to irc on #arch-haskell @ freenode and talk with dons ? or send an e-mail to arch-haskell list? [1] http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-haskell -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Rename my AUR package
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:11 PM, julroy67 julro...@gmail.com wrote: Ahww that was fast :) Ok, so I uploaded it ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37158 ), I think you can delete the old package. Thanks to all. Old one deleted :) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU Resign
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Kessia 'even' Pinheiro kessiapinhe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I know its late to that and i should sent this earlier (its one year away), but I thought about going back sometime. So, my life changed in so many ways.. I love Arch, I defend that every time and still using that, but I couldnt stay in TU position just in name, I felt I should participate to still here. Was a learning time be part of Arch TU, some friends and many much learning. Sorry for any problem in that time. I love all people who help me and every one I couldnt know yet. If future reserve for me more time and less troubles, maybe I came back help Arch again. For now, this is a thank you, all of you. :) -- Kessia Pinheiro Linux System Administrator Aw :( you resigned without saying me anything :(. Well, you can always come back!, thanks for your contributions Kess! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] AUR comment spammer
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Ronald van Haren pre...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5863) quite a bit (most of which is now deleted). I'm getting enough email spam already. who did remove these comments, any of the TUs seen this? Ronald I saw his comments, the Sven's affirmation was correct, even wonder saw his comments, I didn't remove the comments, I just suspended the account. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] snd-gtk-jack
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Andrew Antle andrew.an...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello -
There is a package named
[snd-ls](http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15580) which is
orphaned and quite out of date. I would like to adopt it and update it
with the following PKGBUILD:
---
# Maintainer: Andrew Antle andrew dot antle at gmail dot com
pkgname=snd-gtk-jack
_pkgname=snd
pkgver=11.3
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc=A sound editor, with GTK+ and JACK enabled
arch=('i686' 'x86_64')
license=('custom')
depends=('fftw' 'gamin' 'gsl' 'gtk2' 'jack' 'ladspa')
url=http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/;
source=(ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/Lisp/$_pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('71168f92e77a14f80c6bcf5c1dd3df26')
build() {
cd $srcdir/$_pkgname-$pkgver
./configure --prefix=/usr --with-gtk --with-jack
make || return 1
make prefix=$pkgdir/usr install
rm -f $pkgdir/usr/share/$_pkgname/*.{fs,rb}
install -D -m 644 COPYING $pkgdir/usr/share/licenses/$pkgname/LICENSE
}
---
Do I need a TU to change the name of the package, and then I'll adopt
it and update it? Or should I just upload my PKGBUILD and ask for the
old, orphaned one to be deleted?
P.S. The manpage is being installed -rwx-r-x-r-x, but in the tarball
it's -rw-r--r--. How can I fix this? Should I chmod it at the end of
build()?
Thanks,
--
Andrew Antle
andrew dot antle at gmail dot com
Upload your snd-gtk-jack I will delete the old one and put a field
called provides=('snd-gtk-jack') for future updates of ppl who were
using snd-ls
--
Angel Velásquez
angvp @ irc.freenode.net
Arch Linux Trusted User
Linux Counter: #359909
http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU resignation
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:36 PM, bardo ilba...@gmail.com wrote: It's with great sadness that I feel the need to leave my position as a Trusted User in Arch. In the last few months I haven't been able to keep up with my duties, and I feel that resigning is the best thing I can do at the moment, since real life is taking much more time than there is in a day and I can't keep up with the high standards that Arch deserves. I'd like to thank each and everyone at the Arch team, this has been a fun ride and I learned a lot in these years. Hopefully I'll be back contributing someday, maybe not in the same way, but whatever. Surely I'll stick around, however, as much as my free time allows me. At the moment I own a few dozens of packages in [community], and since I'd like to make the transition as smooth as possible, a little report follows, I marked as OOD the ones which need to be updated, adopt the ones you like. I hope this is helpful. Take care, Corrado Sad to see you go man, :(, but thank you for your work :) = Eclipse Plug-Ins = Mostly low-maintenance packages, they usually just need a relbump thanks to my super-unreadably-duper-perfectly-working PKGBUILDs. * eclipse-emf: needs to be ported to -any * eclipse-gef (OOD) * eclipse-mylyn (OOD) * eclipse-phpeclipse * eclipse-subclipse (OOD) * eclipse-ve I will be adopting these tomorrow if nobody adopt them, (I am not a eclipse-dev but I work with a guy who now is an Archer and he's using eclipse, he could give me a real feedback (like if I will be the user of these packages). Good luck with your studies and your goals! , ciao! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] orphaned packages
tora Adopted -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Removal request for catalyst-opencl
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Vi0L0 vi0l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, plase remove this package: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=32968 It's not needed any more. Thanks :-) -- Greetz Vi0L0 gpg: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x561FEC2AFFC7E56E Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
[aur-general] [exim] Bump to 4.71
Hi, Yesterday Andrea (BaSh) moved to [community] exim, when I arrived home I got the bug notifications which the package had when it was on [extra]; but Daniel (Ghost1227) closes those bug too fast :O (I already said thank to him), now that those bugs are closed, I packaged a new release and it's on [community-testing] I would like some feedback from exim's user, so if the package it's ready I will move it from [community-testing] to [community]. Opinions? -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Removal request
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Ismael Barros² razielm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please, remove this package: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33846 It's a duplicate of this package: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24727 I duplicated it by mistake, I forgot to change the package name when I forked xf86-input-synaptics package. Regards, Ismael Removed by some tu very fast! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU without [community] maintaining?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Chris Brannon cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Bächler wrote: I think it is a good idea. We could create the AUR moderator position instead of calling it Semi-TU. This is a fine idea, and I see no harm in it. Im in favour of this, my unique concern is about how hard will be creating another level of permission in the AUR, and some rules about, if a semi-tu can orphan packages from TUs or TU-Dev, figuring out that part, and assuming that will have an approbation, we will start writting patches, so this can be a slow process, (2 months or so if it's aproved? plus the time of discussion?). Let's see what happens! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU without [community] maintaining?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Florian Friesdorf f...@chaoflow.net wrote: On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 12:31:37PM -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Chris Brannon cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Bächler wrote: I think it is a good idea. We could create the AUR moderator position instead of calling it Semi-TU. This is a fine idea, and I see no harm in it. Im in favour of this, my unique concern is about how hard will be creating another level of permission in the AUR, and some rules about, if a semi-tu can orphan packages from TUs or TU-Dev, figuring out that part, and assuming that will have an approbation, we will start writting patches, so this can be a slow process, (2 months or so if it's aproved? plus the time of discussion?). I'd give an AUR moderator all permissions to mess around in the AUR, be it packages of TUs or not. If somebody messes up, he/she can be punished later. Lol no punishment! I don't wanna hit anybody!; Well, other question how will be the process of selection of these semi-tu ? how will be called the group semi-tu ? trusted but not at all? there are many many questions until we can make this idea possible. Just that. -- Florian Friesdorf f...@chaoflow.net GPG FPR: EA5C F2B4 FBBB BA65 3DCD E8ED 82A1 6522 4A1F 4367 Jabber/XMPP: f...@chaoflow.net OTR FPR: 9E191746 213321FE C896B37D 24B118C0 31785700 IRC: chaoflow on freenode,ircnet,blafasel,OFTC -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU without [community] maintaining?
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Laszlo Papp djsz...@archlinux.us wrote: 2010/2/3 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Chris Brannon cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Bächler wrote: I think it is a good idea. We could create the AUR moderator position instead of calling it Semi-TU. This is a fine idea, and I see no harm in it. Im in favour of this, my unique concern is about how hard will be creating another level of permission in the AUR, It's not so long so obviously ... It depends how time you consider long-time and some rules about, if a semi-tu can orphan packages from TUs or TU-Dev, figuring out that part, and assuming that will have an approbation, we will start writting patches, so this can be a slow process, (2 months or so if it's aproved? plus the time of discussion?). Uhm.. what.. really ? 2 monthes for you ? 2 months as a minimun, I said, could be more, after an aprovation (maybe this idea will be dissaproved), for me don't know how many long will be? it's long time .. so, are we in position of start a proposal? (defining it at least?) Best Regards, Laszlo Papp -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] exim maintainer wanted
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: On 02/01/2010 12:08 AM, Allan McRae wrote: exim has no maintainer and I have been assigned a bug for it as the last person to rebuild it (db-4.8 rebuild). I do not use it and have no intentions of fixing the bug. Does anybody want to be the maintainer? Allan If not dev take it, I guess, should be moved to [community] if there is some TU interested on it. Or drop it directly to AUR. Current exim version in [extra] is 3.69 (2007/12/20) and latest is 4.71 (2009/11/23). There are two open bug/feature reports with fixes attached [#1] [#1] http://bugs.archlinux.org/?project=1string=exim Allan, I would like to maintain it if nobody of the devs wanna maintain it, so you can move it to [community], -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Partial Inactivity
2009/12/14 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: Hi, Since I am still moving (now to a new apartment), I have not internet connection there, I am getting it but I don't know when they will install me the connection (people says that if I am lucky it will be a week, but I really don't know) I have internet connection on the job (a decent one) and I could bring my laptop to do some updates or something, but eventually my response time won't be short (1 day or more). So I decided to mark myself as away (or Andrea a.k.a bash will send an e-mail asking for my deletion haha :P) but eventually I hope to handle this situation. Sincerely I'm back. Having a heavy workload, but handling it :D -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] PKGBUILD for python-numpy, orphaned and out-of-date
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Puneeth Chaganti puncha...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Robson Peixoto robsonpeix...@gmail.com wrote: Please, add gcc-fortran in makedepends Sorry, missed it. thanks punchagan Oh I used to maintain numpy when it was in [community] (dsa used to maintain it first, then me, then him) now, this is an important package, if some dev want to maintain it, I could help (or I must say we?) but definetively this package belongs to [extra]) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] TU Resignation abhidg
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Abhishek Dasgupta abh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, So long ... Real life has been getting busier and busier lately, with my final year in university coming up. I've not been able to devote much time to Arch in the last month at all; thus I'm resigning as a Trusted User. I've a few packages in [community], many of them are scientific packages which I used once. I hope someone will take them up, otherwise they can move to unsupported. Hi Abhi, sorry to see you go, hoping you a good luck with your studies and a sucessful career. Thank you for your contributions, I will adopt some packages of you today. Arch was my first exposure to open-source contribution and it's been a great two years! Thanks to everyone (Hugo, Aaron, Allan, and others who have helped me) and also Varun, thanks to whom I could become a part of this community. I hope to see you back anyday. Good Luck! PPS The zsi package has a missing dep (python-setuptools). Could someone fix it? Thanks! I will do it. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Request deletion
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Thorsten Töpper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:51:36 -0430 José Valecillos valecillo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, can any TU please delete dosbox-cvs package, it's has been replaced with dosbox-svn since CVS repository is deprecated and isn't mantained anymore. Done, please provide links with future requests. +2 -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Orphan Request
Orphaned Please, next time add the AUR link, it's easier ;) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Package removal request (emesene-crazy)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Rene Pärts ren...@hot.ee wrote: Hi. There isn't such thing as emesene-crazy anymore and this package should be deleted. crazy was a temporary version before emesene 1.5 and it is abandoned now. The maintainer haven't responded for months and AUR should be clean. url: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24837 Thanks and bye, Rene Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Trusted Users, Secret ballots, Openness?
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Thu 17 Dec 2009 20:31 +0100, Xyne wrote: TU votes were never meant to be secret, it only came about as the implementation of the voting application. We don't live under a violent military coup or anything. You should be able to identify with your thoughts in a free society. The discussion period is there for people to voice any concerns, if that creates tension - so be it. I hope we aren't all wimps that can't take a little bit of conflict. I'd like to know that our Trusted Users are able to voice their opinions and uphold the Arch Way, etc. That's a nice strawman argument which completely disregards social psychology and the real reason for secret ballots, even if a TU vote means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. You're also confusing the discussion period with post-electoral discussion, which are two very different things. Invoking others to uphold the Arch Way in this context is completely without meaning and seems to be nothing more than a baseless emotional appeal that goes hand-in-hand with the previous strawman argument. I'm actually surprised to see such a crude statement. I don't know what straw man you're referring to, but when it comes to TUs we are no longer regular users who should be hiding behind secret ballots. By merit and by votes we are representatives of the Trusted Users and of the community. I was only referring to the discussion period. By all accounts there were no problems, so the proposal should have passed. If there were any outstanding issues they should have been raised. The people that voted 'NO' should not have been silent. The fact that there was no debate implies that people were afraid to voice their opinions, or were weary of the conversation. In all honesty though, it's difficult for me to trust someone who cloaks their identity and hides their opinions. Perhaps you were offended because you cloak your identity. I didn't really consider that, I apologize. I mean no personal attack. This is just the way I feel. If you really feel that way, change the TU interface to make the voting public and display each TU's vote next to his or her name. I might look into that, at least for disclosing details for the Trusted Users. I'll end this here before I suppress the wimp in me and flesh out my reply to Loui's post. I would definitely be interested in an explanation of the social psychology. Well, I am Inactive at this moment sorry if I didn't answer first, by the way I am on the office so I shouldn't be writting long emails and wasting time (since my boss conception). I proposed a patch to see who voted, and I remember people who dislike the idea (BaSh, and others TUs) then, a method to know if a TU it was Inactive at the point that he wasn't voting or something, I created that patch (Loui pimped and then he applied it). Now its obviously that I was one who voted 'no' and it was by several reasons: 1) The guy is annoying, and I don't like his attitude (one thing is a person who wanna contribute, the way that he do is like .. he just want to appears in any credits, note: this it's my perception of his attitude). 2) He tried in a very-short time to re-apply (I know he applied after three months), but he didn't passed the Discussion period the last time, he really should be sure to convince the people who voted no, instead to be desperated to appear in any credits. 3) AUR2? Where is the implementation? I can't confirm if he did something on AUR2 and since my point of view the actually main developers of AUR (Loui, Wizzo, Bash, etc) are not involved in that development, I know some people were working on AUR2, but seriously there is not a release date, even nobody have thought when will be official this release of AUR, so basicly, he maybe is contributing in something that won't be used in a future, so thgis can't count as a contribution and as I said, for anything (comment, code, etc) that he have done, said, wrote .. he seems to be waiting for a medal or diploma or w/e .. again, is his attitude. 4) We are full of TU's at this moment (25 according to the Wiki page), honestly this is the less important reason, because we have many people away (like me) or doing little contributions (like me again and the new TUs who are step by step incorporating to the team), IMO we don't need to have a long list of 300+ TUs doing .. nothing? So basicly these are my reasons, sorry Laszlo, but you didn't convinced me. P.S: I don't know if I loss my vote because that bug about lang and votations, I hope not, else this mail will be very non-sense. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
[aur-general] Partial Inactivity
Hi, Since I am still moving (now to a new apartment), I have not internet connection there, I am getting it but I don't know when they will install me the connection (people says that if I am lucky it will be a week, but I really don't know) I have internet connection on the job (a decent one) and I could bring my laptop to do some updates or something, but eventually my response time won't be short (1 day or more). So I decided to mark myself as away (or Andrea a.k.a bash will send an e-mail asking for my deletion haha :P) but eventually I hope to handle this situation. Sincerely -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Please orphan AUR package bullet-svn
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: I'd like to adopt bullet-svn since the current maintainer seems to have abandoned it and lost interest in Arch as a whole since this is his only package and it has never been updated. bullet-svn: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21091 -- Sven-Hendrik Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] [remove request]
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gour g...@gour-nitai.com wrote: Hiya, Please if you can remove xulrunner-xpcom package (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28526) which is now obsolete 'cause the same functionality is provided by official xulrunner package. Sincerely, Gour Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Orphan Request
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Thorsten Toepper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote: On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:33:39 + (GMT) Mark Foxwell markfoxwel...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, The linux-wbfs-manager package in AUR (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29128) has been out of date for 3 months and has been flagged as out of date for ages too. I have emailed the maintainer (eirik) with the changes to the PKGBUILD for the new version (just a version bump and change the md5sum) but I haven't got a response. I would happily maintain the package so can you orphan it for me? Or is there anything else I need to do first? Thanks, Mark (fastfret79) done Yay! yor first public interaction being a TU!. Congratulations btw. -- Jabber: atsut...@freethoughts.de Blog: http://atsutane.freethoughts.de/ Key: 295AFBF4 FP: 39F8 80E5 0E49 A4D1 1341 E8F9 39E4 F17F 295A FBF4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iE8DBQFLGRGGOeTxfyla+/QRC5f4AN9AMILIjsi3TrWRxkRVjokpGDf0XwKdTEpL A60XAN9yjwYQ5bCEaTSinav7BlHP3Wze5p+TkXeH5PPF =BOa0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Trusted User Application
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:09 AM, bardo ilba...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/23 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: Ok, the voting period for Ranguvar's TU application has begun.TUs, please log in to the AUR and vote. Damn... never click when you're sleepy... I voted without changing my locale, and my vote wasn't registered. Need more coffee... and a block of the page if the locale isn't en. Same happened to me, I voted and I forgot to change the locale :( -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Trusted User Application
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Tue 24 Nov 2009 10:31 -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:09 AM, bardo ilba...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/23 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: Ok, the voting period for Ranguvar's TU application has begun.TUs, please log in to the AUR and vote. Damn... never click when you're sleepy... I voted without changing my locale, and my vote wasn't registered. Need more coffee... and a block of the page if the locale isn't en. Same happened to me, I voted and I forgot to change the locale :( Arrg. I guess I have to make these notices bigger next time. And please in red color, or a reminder before the svp :/ -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Package removal request
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Ranguvar rangu...@archlinux.us wrote: Hello, I just recently adopted the firefox-hg-pgo package. Could you please delete it? In a few minutes I am going to upload firefox-pgo-minefield. The name fits better with the other firefox-pgo-* packages, and it is nice in that it is manually updated when a new Firefox HG revision passes the Mozilla Tinderbox unit tests :) Thanks! -- Devin Cofer (Ranguvar) Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Package removal request
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Panos Filip panosfi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/16 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Ranguvar rangu...@archlinux.us wrote: Hello, I just recently adopted the firefox-hg-pgo package. Could you please delete it? In a few minutes I am going to upload firefox-pgo-minefield. The name fits better with the other firefox-pgo-* packages, and it is nice in that it is manually updated when a new Firefox HG revision passes the Mozilla Tinderbox unit tests :) Thanks! -- Devin Cofer (Ranguvar) Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com Has the new one (firefox-pgo-minefield) been deleted ? Uhhh yes, my big mistake ! :(, Ranguvar could you re-upload it please?! It wasn't my intention I deleted the good one instead :( -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Deletion Request for libobjfw-hg
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Thorsten Toepper atsut...@freethoughts.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 Hello, please delete libobjfw-hg[1] as it has been renamed to objfw-hg[2]. [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26689 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31906 Greetings Thorsten Töpper / Atsutane Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
[aur-general] Moving packages to community
Hi everyone, I'd like to move the following packages to community: 1) pspshrink [1] 2) ntlmaps [2] In fact I am writting a wiki page about using ntlmaps through the Arch Linux Installation for complementing the begginer guide :). Opinions? [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17076 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11156 -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] even and elasticdog status?
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Aaron Schaefer aa...@elasticdog.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Andrea Scarpino and...@archlinux.org wrote: Aaron Schaefer aka elasticdog: - last package sent on 14th June '09 - last closed bug on 22th April '09 - last post on bbs 19th March '09 I am around, but had hardware issues a while back and am in the process of getting a new x86_64 machine set up for building (I sent a message to the list)...I *am* following the mailing lists and participating in votes, etc., so I'm only half-inactive. I don't visit the forums too often right now, but can always be found on IRC (just not since a few weeks ago when the hardware stuff came up). On my old machine, I had tried to update some of my packages since the move to SVN, but was receiving odd errors from Gerold that I never got sorted out. Once my hardware issues came up, I figured I'd get things going again on the new setup, and other people have generously filled in and rebuilt my out of date stuff. I still have vim-rails to update and I do have a bug report on my jgnash package that has been split into two versions upstream, so I'll figure out how to best handle that soon. I do apologize for the lack of activity, but this summer has been extremely busy for me personally (graduated, moved to a new state, bought a house, got married, started a new job with an hour commute, had two close friends pass away, etc.). Anyway, I'll try to get back up and running this weekend as my new hardware is in, and I'll post back for help if I'm still experiencing issues as I was before. -- Aaron ElasticDog Schaefer As I said, isn't always easy to handle the real life, no problem for me, if you can't contribute anymore, just told us, but if you have thought in come back, then just mark yourself as away on the wiki. I hope you're OK. Btw, I wrote even (since I was her sponsor) asking what's happening? and if she will come back with us, I know Kessia is a responsible girl, so I am getting worried about her, I am waiting for the answer. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request of darktable-svn (28117)
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Christian Himpel chres...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, the darktable-svn[1] package was replaced with darktable-git[2]. Please remove the darktable-svn package, since subversion is no longer supported in this project. Thanks and kind regards, chressie [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=28117 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31515 Done -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User Linux Counter: #359909 http://www.angvp.com
[aur-general] TU Application
Hi all, I'd like to re-apply to my TU position. Since I've resigned [0], many things happened, in my life, and work. In these times I was very dissapointed about myself, cause I was having problems to handle my life, my projects, and of course, Arch, then I decided to go on with less workload at least. Now, I have free time again to dedicate it to the community and the project, and my goals this time are more specific from my first application [1], this time I'd like to: a) Improve and support the python and haskell scene since I am enthusiastic of these languages b) To help others TU, or Devs (with the permission of them), to reduce their loads on community doing tests, maintaining, updating or just simply building their packages in the differents architectures (I have i686 and x86_64 but now I am using x86_64) c) Report, and close bugs from me and others TU or Devs (away or with highly load), of course with the permission of them. d) Maintain and collaborate with the Arch Project in general, writting in the wiki, random coding, etc. I talked with Evangelos Foutras a.k.a foutrelis to ask him if he would like to be my sponsor, and he accepted, so since I knew many of you when I was a TU, I hope you will recognize my skills and my dedication on this project, and even when I wasn't active (as a TU) I ever tried to be helping with the distro, and I always try to do my best overall. Sincerely. [0] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2009-February/003742.html [1] http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-May/001479.html [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=angvpSeB=m -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Laurie Clark-Michalek bluepepp...@archlinux.us wrote: Hi. I quickly ran namcap over your aur PKGBUILDs. The following cropped up, which you might like to have a look at: ~ namcap-aur-pkgs $(aur-maintainer-pkgs angvp) PKGBUILD (gr-lida) E: File referenced in $startdir outside of $startdir/src or $startdir/pkg PKGBUILD (gr-lida) E: File referenced in $startdir outside of $startdir/src or $startdir/pkg PKGBUILD (pykaraoke) W: Description should not contain the package name. PKGBUILD (pykaraoke) W: Attempting to use dl sourceforge domain, use downloads.sourceforge.net instead PKGBUILD (torrentflux) W: Description should not contain the package name. PKGBUILD (torrentflux) W: Attempting to use specific sourceforge mirror, use downloads.sourceforge.net instead I don't know if these are inherited errors, but anyway, they're there. Best of luck, Laurie Hi Laurie, Thanks for namcap my PKGBUILD's, I will correct the warnings tonight, and upload someothers PKGBUILD's that I have pending to update / improve. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp
Replying from my Nokia E71: Hi Laszlo and the crew, First of all, I don't want point you about the case of the 'phantom' votes and the 'phantom' accounts, so.. Loui can you give us more info about this? To make a real proof?, for example date and hour of the creation of the account, last ip who accesed these accounts, or something more powerful to make the proof if Laszlo or other person created them. If we found in that proof that Laszlo is guilty I'd like to suggest the 'ban' of his application (This seems to be a childish way to 'promove' crap to community just because the person thinks that deserve to be in community and the way was fill aur with phantoms accounts, and phantom votes), else, if Loui can't found a proof, we can start thinking in the development of more fields, routines, etc for cases like this (I'd like to help with this Loui :P). IMHO, a person who is pointed for other TUs as a 'annoying' 'obsesive' and now 'fake voter' doesn't seems good to me for be a TU. I am not TU anymore and I've be some inactive, but i'd like to express my opinion, this application shouldn't go more far, but.. there is a votation process, I just will wait for the results. Good 'luck' anyway A. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] I want to upload a package that it is not mine
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Leonardo Milianileona...@leonardomiliani.com wrote: Hi asked the previous manteiner of netbeans-ruby to orphan it because I saw that he didn't update that package anymore and I already had the pkgbuild for version 6.7 of netbeans-ruby. But before I could adopt the package, another user adopted it. But.. it seems that its e-mail isn't working so I couldn't be able to contact him... it seems that he doesn't want to upgrade the pkgbuild. I tried to contact him via the forum of Archlinux.org because I saw that he wrote there but I couldn't. So I have the new pkgbuild ready and hot... How can I put it on AUR? -- Web: www.leonardomiliani.com E-mail: leona...@leonardomiliani.com Scegli software opensource - Choose opensource software Co-fondatore di Gambas-it.org Il sito di riferimento della comunità italiana degli utenti di Gambas www.gambas-it.org Ask for the orphaning of the package and adopt it, and you have to be aware when the package will get orphanized again. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] TU: Password Reset
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM, bardoilba...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/6 Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be: Surely you can. use e-mail to lock a mutex. That's the volleyball technique. The first that shouts MINE!!! gets the ball ;) Hahaha, in this side of the continent is the baseball technique :D (anyway sorry for the off-topic) All I can say is bash and foutrelis are too efficient :D -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Disowning monsoon, monotorrent and mono-nat
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Tomás Acauan Scherteltscher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I'm disowning these three packages from AUR. Feel free to take them. mono-nat - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24102 monotorrent - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=24104 monsoon - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17349 Just orphan them and somebody will adopt them, simply you DON'T have to tell us that you are orphanizing or adopting unsupported packages. This message is for everybody (not just Tomás), please don't send e-mails to the list when you adopt or orphanize a PKGBUILD, just orphan it and someone will adopt it.. that's it!. Why devs and tus can do it or have to do it?, simply, they maintain official packages. I've been this bad habit/behaviour from somedays ago, and I've tried to don't said something harsh, but this time i think it's enough, I appreciate those all contributions, but there are some _rules_ and there are thousands of packages in AUR, just imagine if every people who orphan or adopt a package will send an e-mail to the list, it will flood the list!. Just that, nothing personal. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Disowning monsoon, monotorrent and mono-nat
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Tomás Acauan Scherteltscher...@gmail.com wrote: I just think it's easier to people see the availability of package if it's announced here. But I see your point. Sorry. No prob, :), the next person who will download it by aur or will flag as unsupported probably should adopt it .. usually happens in a chain -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Disowning monsoon, monotorrent and mono-nat
I'm not really sure where you're gathering your rules from. If excess traffic on the list does become a problem, we'll find ways to solve it. Common sense, just let everybody believe that they have to report anything on this list (as the childres ask the teachers for permission to go to the bathroom) and you will get a nice flood, mathematics never fails, but go ahead, do what you want, you will remember me, when you will get pissed off about this :) Thanks anyway -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Disowning monsoon, monotorrent and mono-nat
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:54 AM, bardoilba...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/6 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: I'm not really sure where you're gathering your rules from. If excess traffic on the list does become a problem, we'll find ways to solve it. Common sense, just let everybody believe that they have to report anything on this list (as the childres ask the teachers for permission to go to the bathroom) and you will get a nice flood, mathematics never fails, but go ahead, do what you want, you will remember me, when you will get pissed off about this :) Please guys, calm down. Let's sit down a minute and think about it. Tomás brought to our attention a problem that all of us have noticed: there's no mean, for willing contributors, to find out if a package has been orphaned. I think Angel is right with this ML not being the right place to signal orphan packages, since there's usually no discussion involved. On the other hand, I feel that he expressed his ideas in a bit too strong way. Anyway, back to the problem. I see two (non-mutually exclusive) possible solutions: 1. Add a notification e-mail for package orphaning. In fact, orphaning is a very important phase in the package life, and between package subscribers there will probably be at least one person who wants to step up and adopt it. I'm all for this one. 2. Add an orphaning RSS feed. Many willing contributors are always looking for nice packages to maintain, and they have no way to find out if their favorite package has been orphaned. An RSS feed would allow contributors to quickly substitute former maintainers, thus allowing an overall better AUR quality. What do you think? The first solution seems better to me (but both solutions can be implemented), why the first solution is better to me?, Well in the case when a guy with several packages decided to orphan all his packages the users who have an rss client pointing to the orphan rss will get flooded heh.. but it's the risk that they took in any case. So +1 for the first solution -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] introduction and questions
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:23 PM, jezra lickterjezra.lick...@gmail.com wrote: my apologies again, I should have said I have attached a tarball of the PKGBUILD in my first post in this thread. However, since I didn't say that; I am attaching a tarball of the PKGBUILD that I would like to upload to AUR. And again.. where is the PKGBUILD? hehe .. are you joking us? nice one btw -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:28 PM, corvolinocorvol...@archlinux.com.br wrote: Hello everyone. I'm interested in becoming a TU. Thotypous has agreed to be my sponsor. My current goals are: 1 - Doing my best to help in improving the AUR. Maintain my packages in good condition and encourage people to keep packages in AUR; 2 - I want to improve my knowledge related to ArchLinux and to help colleagues using Arch; 3 - I'd like to participate actively in decisions regarding to Arch; 4 - Representing Arch and talking about its philosophy and tools in events about Free Software. I currently maintain 21 packages in AUR (my user is corvolino). I'm already an Arch user for about 3 years. I use Linux since 2005. Since then, I have learned a lot with research, forums and friends. I'm a member of Arch Linux Brazil since the end of last year, where I already help with packages, documentation and translation. I also helped with documentation and support in other distributions I've used. For those who don't know me, I'm participatory and I'll always do what I can to help Arch Linux. Thanks for all those helped me so far, corvolino. -- corvolino ~ Linux User #459152 Blog - http://corvolinopunk.wordpress.com Archlinux-br Developer Team Nice, I'd to recommend corvolino, even if I am not a TU anymore, nathan please don't hijack the application of corvolino :) ping thotypous ? :P -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Removing comments from AUR
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Grigorios Bouzakisgrb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Gergely Imrehimr...@gmail.com wrote: Since i started this, even by stupidly replying to another thread, i might as well answer to that. My suggestion is not having comments in the AUR at all, comments arent useful to the users. They are only useful to the maintainer. I would disagree... Sometimes it is good for maintaner-user feedback as well. E.g. one of my packages takes a long time to compile. It's a small package but one step looks as if it hung and stays there for about 10-15mins on my computer. I had one of the users place a comment that his compilation didn't work, it froze and he had to kill it after about 5 minutes. Told him to wait a bit longer and it worked. Sure it could be done in the BBS - but would be completely inefficient. Not many users for most of the packages so not many people know what's going on, and I'm not going to search through the forums every day to see if someone wrote about them... Now: comment placed, me notified, can act on it Scrap the bbs. If he mailed you, wouldnt you have bothered to reply his email? Or it needs to be done by a comment or not done at all? You wouldnt have added it to the package notes because it wouldnt interest the users? If you had, he wouldnt even have to email you. Sometimes the maintainer in this case is a Dev or a TU, and eventually they are full of work and they doesn't reply the emails or let the packages out of date or with bugs (in the AUR history *this* fact is happening), what should do the user in this case?: 1.- send an email to the ml? -- will be ignored by everypeople. (and probably the maintainer, and plus force the user to subscribe to the ml, maybe the user isn't a packager, just an user reporting anything like this package shouldn't depend on bla bla) 2.- open a bug report, come on dude, not every people will register to the bt to fill a bug report, maybe if one account will work for everything, but this is not the case. 3.- Open a bbs thread (pfff hehee .. I just will laugh about it) 4.- IRC? (why if maintainer isn't active on that?) And plus, sometimes Comments helps the maintainer of a package a LOT. So, this discussion is irrelevant, please when you do an upgrade you don't remove features at least these are unuseful, and reading this thread, more people are agree to keep the comments. Thanks -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Removing comments from AUR
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Grigorios Bouzakisgrb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/26 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: Sometimes the maintainer in this case is a Dev or a TU, and eventually they are full of work and they doesn't reply the emails or let the packages out of date or with bugs (in the AUR history *this* fact is happening), what should do the user in this case?: 1.- send an email to the ml? -- will be ignored by everypeople. (and probably the maintainer, and plus force the user to subscribe to the ml, maybe the user isn't a packager, just an user reporting anything like this package shouldn't depend on bla bla) 2.- open a bug report, come on dude, not every people will register to the bt to fill a bug report, maybe if one account will work for everything, but this is not the case. 3.- Open a bbs thread (pfff hehee .. I just will laugh about it) 4.- IRC? (why if maintainer isn't active on that?) And plus, sometimes Comments helps the maintainer of a package a LOT. So, this discussion is irrelevant, please when you do an upgrade you don't remove features at least these are unuseful, and reading this thread, more people are agree to keep the comments. Thanks I already replied to these many times. Do you know of another project that enables user comments? I know of none. Yet they seem to get by fine with mailing lists, IRC channels, and personal emails. That's why I like Arch, because is different than other projects, if you want those features, then go to other projects Anyway: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15265 I will post there :) -- Greg -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Removing comments from AUR: epilogue
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Heiko Baumsli...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:12:03 +0300 schrieb Grigorios Bouzakis grb...@gmail.com: Since noone seems to like a change like that, i won't continue alone. For any further discussion please visit the feature request on the bug tracker. This has gone far enough for a suggestion backed up by only 1 person. PS. Thanks for the vote cyberpatrol! :P This voting was only done accidentally as you can read in my comment for this feature request. And as you also can read in this comment, I asked, if there is a way to remove the voting. I don't agree with you and I don't like your idea. Cheers, Heiko Sorry, but I have to write this... Grig, you are peeing far away from the toillet (that's means that your thougts just are wrong), btw I replied in your bug report :) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Removing comments from AUR
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Heiko Baumsli...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:57:23 +0200 schrieb hollun...@gmx.at: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:52:46 +0200 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: IMHO malicious packages should be reported to the list anyway to be removed ASAP. A comment alone wouldn't do it anyway. Principally you are right, but pressing a button report malicious package could or should send an e-mail to this mailing list or to every TU automatically. This would be the easiest way for the users. This will save the time to write a long e-mail to the ml writting the package X which are in http://xxx is malicious but this feature should be powerful if you add a why this package were reported as malicious, because doing accidentally clicks can send an inoportunous e-mail to the ml. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Removing comments from AUR: epilogue
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Loui Changlouipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri 26 Jun 2009 21:00 +1930, Angel Velásquez wrote: Sorry, but I have to write this... Grig, you are peeing far away from the toillet (that's means that your thougts just are wrong), btw I replied in your bug report :) Damn, that's a good one. How do you say that in Spanish? in Spanish (Venezuelan Slang) Estas meando fuera del perol :) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Leaving Arch
Why don't disown all packages at one time? and people will take care of adopt them, and let this thread die? Thanks -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
[aur-general] Delete this package: [python-configobj]
Hi, Python's ConfigParser module is part of the standard library right now, So even if you don't have this package installed you can do: $ python import ConfigParser And this will work :) Maintainers of these packages should rebuild the packages and remove the dependency of the PKGBUILD: blueproximity chandler64 coherence coherence-svn crunchyfrog genesis-sync gnome-agenda-svn gscrobbler gtg gui-microdia-git jabbim-svn mfe nautilussvn noteo python-enthought-mayavi python-matplotlib Opening a bug in the flyspray anyway Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] changing the status of the maintainer field
Noone is going to do this if it were implemented, which I really don't think it needs to be. Dude, two things: 1.- Instead of say no one is going to do this ... try to implement something better for the requirement of Abhishek, if you are not agree with the requirement is other subject, but if you are agree with the requirement, then instead of not aproving other solutions, try to think in one and propose it. 2.- You don't have to quote the entire mail that I sent (with the signature included). Have you ever used mailing lists before? -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Huge packages in community
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Jan de Groot j...@jgc.homeip.net wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 12:05 +1930, Angel Velásquez wrote: A solution could be: a) Creating an official repo called [games] or something like, where TUs and Devs can put games there (huge games principally. b) Definetively not upload games to the repos I am the administrator of two official mirrors, and watching this situation I am really worried if packages 250 mb (games) will be downloaded / updated eventually and I will have to waste GBs on this. Please don't take this personal, but IIRC Gerolde was suffering for the lack of space months ago, and even if this package and those huge popular games 250 mb doesn't merely to be on the official repos, frankly (but thanks for the effort to waste the disk space Xyne!). Anyway, that's my humble opinion. c) splitting up the package in a game and a game-data package, where game-data is architecture-independent using the -any architecture. The -any architecture is still work in progress, but it will get there. Besides nexuiz, there's also Battle for Wesnoth in the extra repository that could use this treatment. Not only does it save disk space, it will also save bandwidth for the ones who upload and for the ones who mirror. This should work btw, i don't know if the split option are active now in the makepkg, but I saw a thread with an example of Allan, I assume at least is closer to be done, then we should wait until -any architecture 8-). On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Loui louipc@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/4 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: Common sens people, games are not necessary software, games are optional software, necessary software is that which means productivity or required (like drivers, etc). Games may be required for gaming computers. I don't think that Arch really dictates what you should be using the distro for. It may be programming, accounting, communicating, or gaming perhaps. Yes but in times of saving space of bandwidth, no matter how harder you want to think that gaming are as necessary like programming, accounting, and other areas ;) But Jan's solution, should works for all, and everybody will be happy :) Cheers! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Huge packages in community
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Xyne, as I said this is nothing personal with you (I can add to the list of huge maintainers: Sergej, Swiergot and many other TUs, but nexuiz was the package which finally made me upset since I was downloading by hours and the update wasn't finished just because nexuiz), and I know you are new in the crew and I thought you knew about the issues we had about unpopular and lack of space on the server , that's why I worried about a huge games on the repo, being honestly if you want to game it's ok, but games are not necessary to be on the repo, being honest. Perhaps your definition of the word personal is different than mine and, judging by the responses, others. I'm not upset with you, but I do think your attitude is generally abrasive from what I've seen in your previous posts. It doesn't really matter though and I don't want to focus on that. As I said in my first reply, Nexuiz had already been uploaded by another TU when I took it over. The package size may have increased with the latest release, but it was still a large package before then and you would surely have had ample opportunity to discuss its inclusion in community as it's been there since I began using Arch nearly 9 months ago. I did not know about previous discussions concerning package sizes nor do I see how you could reasonably expect me to know about them if I were not here for them. I have not read the entire archive of aur-general. You should read them, sometimes have a knowledge of past discussions will clarify you many positions of many people, but it's just a recommendation, at least I did it before applied to be a TU. What defines necessary when dealing with community packages? I thought core and extra were for necessary packages while community was for packages that the community wanted. Where does necessity enter into it? Community wasn't even enabled by default before and yet people managed to run their systems. This seems to be the definition of another word on which we disagree. Common sens people, games are not necessary software, games are optional software, necessary software is that which means productivity or required (like drivers, etc). My proposal is not to take away these binaries in first case, my first option is to move huge games to another repo, why? as I said, games *are not necessary software*, and how will benefit a [games] repo to home repos?, easy!, I simply do not add [games] in the sync script and the script won't download it -assuming that the waste of disk space won't be a problem anymore of course-.. but syncing in the way that the script is actually doing I can't realize with marking packages for not download it. How would that proposal handle the currently centralized mirrorlist? Would you want to split that into separate repos? Separating them in another repo, like [games] for example. Of course I am talking about the situation with my home personal repo, which have been downloaded every week, every saturday with a 1024 kbps connection (And some other countries, and some other people have better and worst connections btw), but I guess it will save bandwidth on connections more powerful (like the repos that I administer) too, if these kind of huge games won't be added to repos.. (I know ooo is huge and texlive too, but ooo and texlive are necessary). What are you doing with your personal repo? Are you using it to sync other public repos? If not, then there is no reason at all to download the entire community repo. If your entire argument is based on wanting to remove a package from one of the official repos just so you can save some time when upgrading your personal computer by having a full copy of sync, I would call you egocentric. That is not a valid reason and it undermines your argument. If this is not the case, please clarify. I maintain like 6 or more pcs with arch at home, so I don't like to download the things 6 times from internet, I bet this is not only my case, for example, a computer lab on an University of my country use arch in every machine, (600+ machines), they should have a local repo to update those machines eventually, I don't think that they are considering to spend their bandwidth in games... Anyway, just for the record, I am trying to do a calling for maintainers with huge packages not necessary (like games), please please please, think in the bandwidth and disk space of some other people, =). Angel Velásquez Again, what is necessary according to you and what bandwidth are we talking about here? If this really is just for your personal repo? Is not just for my personal repo, and nexuiz isn't the only case, there are other packages which are in AUR and are huge that can be added to this new repo [games] (so this repo will rocks for many gamers) but of course, non-gamers won't have to download it.. Also note that in my first reply
Re: [aur-general] Huge packages in community
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Arkham liuj...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/mag/09, at 19:18, Daenyth Blank wrote: 2009/5/3 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: you shouldn't take the things in that way, just an advice for your health./off-topic And seriously, for my health? Amazing, first time I've been threatened over the internet. You rock. Actually I think that for your health wasn't intended as a menace but more like a medical advice, such as Don't get too upset. Exactly Arkham, seriously Daenyth, I don't know if you are *threatened* everyday (but I will supose it for your actions, and the fact that you are afraid to use your real name over internet), or your ego is *too high* to think that other people are thinking in threat you.. as I said on IRC, calm down, I am here, everything is gonna be alright, breathe please :). Of course, my english shouldn't unsterstable at all, but think that *i am threathing you* haha .. is just funny, thanks for make my day. Thanks for the suggestion Magnus, this will be a solution, the unique problem is that I will have to configure a caching proxy for home :/ and I really feel tired to do that, but now I will consider it seriously. +1 for you too -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
[aur-general] Huge packages in community
Hi, I've syncing my home repo today (like I've been doing since months ago) and I got irritated downloading 595 mb of nexuiz, come on, this package can be popular or whatever, but IMHO having a 595mb package on the repos will be painful. I propose for a motion to remove packages like games 250 mb, I am not a TU anymore and I know that, but the waste of bandwith downloading games is *really* killer... A solution could be: a) Creating an official repo called [games] or something like, where TUs and Devs can put games there (huge games principally. b) Definetively not upload games to the repos I am the administrator of two official mirrors, and watching this situation I am really worried if packages 250 mb (games) will be downloaded / updated eventually and I will have to waste GBs on this. Please don't take this personal, but IIRC Gerolde was suffering for the lack of space months ago, and even if this package and those huge popular games 250 mb doesn't merely to be on the official repos, frankly (but thanks for the effort to waste the disk space Xyne!). Anyway, that's my humble opinion. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Huge packages in community
Well, first of all let me remind that I was a package maintainer, and the issue with do not know how to handle huge packages were discussed several times. Xyne, as I said this is nothing personal with you (I can add to the list of huge maintainers: Sergej, Swiergot and many other TUs, but nexuiz was the package which finally made me upset since I was downloading by hours and the update wasn't finished just because nexuiz), and I know you are new in the crew and I thought you knew about the issues we had about unpopular and lack of space on the server , that's why I worried about a huge games on the repo, being honestly if you want to game it's ok, but games are not necessary to be on the repo, being honest. My proposal is not to take away these binaries in first case, my first option is to move huge games to another repo, why? as I said, games *are not necessary software*, and how will benefit a [games] repo to home repos?, easy!, I simply do not add [games] in the sync script and the script won't download it -assuming that the waste of disk space won't be a problem anymore of course-.. but syncing in the way that the script is actually doing I can't realize with marking packages for not download it. Of course I am talking about the situation with my home personal repo, which have been downloaded every week, every saturday with a 1024 kbps connection (And some other countries, and some other people have better and worst connections btw), but I guess it will save bandwidth on connections more powerful (like the repos that I administer) too, if these kind of huge games won't be added to repos.. (I know ooo is huge and texlive too, but ooo and texlive are necessary). About the games repository of Daenyth, I would like to say is a good option to add the games there, but this repo isn't official, I apologize if I hurt some feelings, but being honestly, I had to said how pised I was cause an irresponsability of upload a game 250 MB geez.. Anyway, just for the record, I am trying to do a calling for maintainers with huge packages not necessary (like games), please please please, think in the bandwidth and disk space of some other people, =). -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Use of sudo in pkgbuild
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Laurie Clark-Michalek bluepepp...@archlinux.us wrote: Ok, it's working, and I've uploaded it to the aur: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16781 Hi, please add hicolor-icon-theme on the depends array, and make on the makedepends array Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Use of sudo in pkgbuild
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Dan Vratil prog...@progdansoft.com wrote: Oh rock me - I should take better look next time, of course it's there. I'm sorry Laurie. Please don't do top -posting .. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Submitting a new package (sunjdk)
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Lucas Salies Brum lu...@archlinux.com.br wrote: IMHO, maintain this package on AUR is waste of time. Sorry. --- Lucas Saliés Brum I don't understand this reasoning (which several people have expressed). If he thinks it's worth maintaining and its his time, what difference does it make to anyone else? No one else has to maintain it and the only thing that could happen is that someone who wants that package will find it and use it. Xyne Duplicate PKGBUILD will fill the AUR of many garbabe that will be orphan later.. Frankly, the majority of the orphan and out-of-date PKGBUILD on AUR are versions of things duplicated :/ I think this should be deleted and no matter what, and it's the opinion of the majority so, why is there yet? -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] TU appliance Jens Maucher (defcon)
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Ali H. Caliskan ali.h.calis...@gmail.com wrote: One thing, mkdir is not something bad to use, I use it all the time, and install isn't also not required, since the developers of install command argue that a package manager should be used instead of install, so what's the big deal here? I mean as long as the code is working, why should it be that much trouble to maintain a package. Are we code fascists here? Isn't about code fascism is about to do our best effort, working code isn't enough, in fact is average, but install vs cp + mkdir is always a suggestion that many people had in their applications, and it wasn't the point to be rejected. In my point of view, Jens should prepare a better application, explaining what are they goals, why he wants to become a TU, and how he will benefit AUR and community, that's all. For Jens: Better luck the next time, and don't feel dissapointed, try to focus on a better application next time, ;) Cheers! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] TU appliance Jens Maucher (defcon)
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Andrei Thorp gar...@gmail.com wrote: Decent quality packages in Community please. - Just one member of the Arch user base Excuse me? I hope that I missunderstood what you said, but in case you are complaining about the quality of packages in community, I just can say talk is easier than do anything (poor translation about an known advice in my language). Thanks. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Submitting a new package (sunjdk)
i stopped using jre/jdk from [community] sometime ago, due to the lack of updates and unresponsiveness of the maintainer (jre/jdk_beta were introduced for this very reason) The fact is that you cannot duplicate packages on AUR even if these are more updated than existents.. If you think that the maintainer of jre/jdk is not doing a good job, then write him an e-mail, offering help. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Submitting a new package (sunjdk)
it's *not* a duplicate, i just cited the lack of updates as one of the reasons i forked the package, you can review sunjdk here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=25303 regards IMO this is a duplicate effort, because this package provided the same as existent packages (jre,jdk) in repos, and btw you can't use the Maintainer tag since this isn't a binary package and you aren't a TU/Dev Thanks for your effort, anyway -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Submitting a new package (sunjdk)
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Daenyth Blank daenyth+a...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/5 Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.com.ve: and btw you can't use the Maintainer tag since this isn't a binary package and you aren't a TU/Dev Didn't we just have this discussion on another thread? That's the correct usage of the maintainer comment. Yes and I have to say that I disagree with this, and I will be pointing my reasons on the other thread. Regards -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
[aur-general] Maintainer vs Contributor tag let's find a solution ; )
Hi, this thread were discussed in the history, so I think is time to clarify and put the correct information to the wiki. (Actually on the recent TU application and sunjdk package). IIRC: a) Maintainer tag in PKGBUILD is just use for people who maintain the binary package generated by this PKGBUILD on official repositories (core, extra, community*), and the people with abilities to do this are TU and Devs. b) Contributor tag is for people who upload the PKGBUILD for first time or is maintaining it at this time. But sometimes this is hard to apply, for example I adopted an orphan PKGBUILD on AUR and I decided to update it and maintain it, what I should have to do: 1.- Should I remove the past contributor and add myself as a Contributor? 2.- Should I keep all the contributor list even if they are more than 4 different people (4 lines more to the PKGBUILD) 3.- Add myself to the maintainer tag? IMO I will use the second option, to keep all the contributor list, maybe tomorrow I won't be able to contribute with this PKGBUILD but it will be nice, to the future owners of these PKGBUILD to know who maintained before them. But maybe we will have a long list of contributors, so, it would be nice to discuss an idea to have tags for maintainers of PKGBUILD with have a binary and contributors of PKGBUILDs, as I said, i would like to improve a method to apply the second idea. Please try to don't flame the ideas, try to propose new ones, or improve the exposed by me. Regards Note: * Many people should disagree with the idea about community and official repo, IMO if community it's enabled by default on pacman, community became official, no matter what the history was... -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [aur-general] Submitting a new package (sunjdk)
not really, unless you regard kde packages in [extra] as duplicates of those in [kde-mod]. jre and jdk is just sun's jdk split into two packages for the sole purpose of having smaller binary packages, but serve no purpose at all if you are building from a pkgbuild. First of all kde-mod is a good project, but their binaries are not official, and they can duplicate what they want on their repos. however, if you still see it as problematic, you can well remove it, i'll continue to use it personally anyway.. I can't remove it since I resigned on my TU position, but if I were tu I'd like to discuss about removal (like I am doing) before do it. And if you will be continue using your package then you got the idea about the Arch's way, and you realized that ABS rocks, and I am glad you got it. Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
