Re: [Aus-soaring] details Lake Keepit

[Jacques Graells]

Links below.

http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/visiting-lksc/where-is-lake-keep
it

http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/information/club-contacts/12-con
tacts/3-general-enquiries


Regards

Jacques


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From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf
Of Grietje Wansink
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2018 8:08 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Subject: [Aus-soaring] details Lake Keepit

I would like to have the details of the gliding club Lake Keepit.

I cannot find it on their website, nor GFA website.

Name
Residential or organisation physical address postal address


Thank you in advance
Grietje


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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] RE: AAT tasking

[Jacques Graells]

The problem is not finding a solution to avoid start games and gaggles, first 
we need to convince the pilots that such practices are undesirable.

 

Some pilots think that start games and gaggles are an inherent part of 
competition flying and believe it is good experience to train for them so 
Australian pilots are better prepared for international competitions. 
Unfortunately that happens endangering the lives of all the other pilots who 
join in the same event.

 

I am convinced we would see more people in competitions if they felt safer.

 

A democratic vote to see what competition and potential competition pilots 
really want would be a good start, not just asking to the converted during 
pilots meetings at competitions.

 

Jacques

 

 

From: Allan Barnes [mailto:allan.j.bar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2017 10:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
; Noel Roediger 
Cc: gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org
Subject: Re: [gfaforum] RE: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking

 

I feel that it is time we moved away from free starts, whether start line or 
start points. I favour moving to a series of GP heats - maybe only 5 or so 
pilots in each heat with a GP start asap after the last pilot in each heat has 
launched. No gaggles, start games or delaying tactics. Each day the pilots 
would be rotated to fly with a different set of opponents. After x days, pilots 
would be split into ranked groups for the ‘finals’. Winner of the ‘gold’ group 
would be the national champion. Pilots in the other groups would compete for 
the first place in their group. 

 

 

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 21:15, Noel Roediger  > wrote:

Mike.

 

Along time ago I proposed at a Narromine Pilots meeting, after nearly being 
killed by a pilot playing for sheep stations at the start, there was a better 
way to go.

 

I don’t think you flew those nats.

 

One of the major problems  apparent was too many aircraft converging on one 
point to start.

 

Solution offered was to limit competitors to 2 per state in each class and each 
class comp. be flown from separate sites that had the ability to launch  14 
sailplanes within a space established in their normal ops.

 

That idea was accepted and I was elected to the sports committee which I 
attended on two occasions at my own cost with no GFA subsidy to put my case.

 

It was a waste of my time as I couldn’t overcome the egos of WW and  RW.

 

Noel.

 

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Mike Borgelt
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:12 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking

 


The AAT is seen as a way of mitigating the risks of mid airs in contests.

Now let's see: Collision risk goes up as the SQUARE of the number of 
participants in any one contest. How do we reduce the total risk to find our 
champions?

Mike






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Re: [Aus-soaring] Graph of XC Speed versus Cruise speed for various climb rates

[Jacques Graells]

You can find it in the awesome spreadsheet made by Jim Rennie.

https://www.gliding.com.au/assets/docs/Polar10.xls

If you google you may be able to find a newer version that displays better
in recent excel versions.

Cheers

Jacques

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Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 1:28 PM
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Graph of XC Speed versus Cruise speed for various
climb rates

I am looking for a graph that I have seen which is essentially the same as
this one, just a little better drawn:

http://www.glidingcaboolture.org.au/Competing/McCredie/72price5.jpeg

However the one I want has the climb rate lines drawn in different colours
and the values are in knots (or metres/sec) rather than fpm.
I thought it was in one of the usual soaring reference books but can't seem
to find it. Any ideas where I can find it? A URL would be nice.
Thanks, Bernie. 

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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] Handicaps

[Jacques Graells]

As I said, maybe the DRY handicaps for sports class need review, the ballasted 
were changed a year or 2 ago, time at which I was told the DRY handicaps for 
sports class are no longer used because the Sports Nats are competed ballasted 
but we still use the DRY sports handicaps in other events.

 

Jacques

 

 

From: Tom & Kerrie Claffey [mailto:tom.ker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 5 March 2017 11:44 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
<aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>; Gliding Australia Forum 
<gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org>; Jacques Graells <jacques@gmail.com>; Ron 
Sanders <resand...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [gfaforum] Handicaps

 

Last time I flew Sports at Keepit Steve and I reviewed Nimbus3DM handicap 
relative to 18M ballasted and found them correct, contrary to earlier 
complaints. Maybe I should bring 15M next time? ;)

Tom

 

...

 

On Sun, 5 Mar 2017 at 11:31, Jacques Graells <jacques@gmail.com 
<mailto:jacques@gmail.com> > wrote:

At the Keepit Regatta we use the GFA dry handicaps and as Casey said, we adjust 
for engines weight when fitted and not accounted for in the reference weight.

It would be nice if we could adjust the 18m gliders to something more realistic 
but since the Sports class are now competed ballasted I think the dry handicaps 
for the sports gliders are not actively reviewed.

If we change anything to the handicaps the pilots will crucify us. It has to 
come from GFA.

 

Jacques

 

From: Tom & Kerrie Claffey [mailto:tom.ker...@gmail.com 
<mailto:tom.ker...@gmail.com> ] 
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 2:59 PM
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<mailto:gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org> >; Ron Sanders <resand...@gmail.com 
<mailto:resand...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [gfaforum] Handicaps

 

Ron,

The Keepit regatta does it's own handicaps.

Of course you are confused ;)

Tom

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 at 12:44, Ron Sanders <resand...@gmail.com 
<mailto:resand...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I am confused totally,

I have an old Nimbus 3DM. When i went to the Two seat Nats its handicap was 
1040 and yet if i had gone to the Keepit Regatta its handicap is 1220. So???

 

Ron

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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] Handicaps

[Jacques Graells]

At the Keepit Regatta we use the GFA dry handicaps and as Casey said, we adjust 
for engines weight when fitted and not accounted for in the reference weight.

It would be nice if we could adjust the 18m gliders to something more realistic 
but since the Sports class are now competed ballasted I think the dry handicaps 
for the sports gliders are not actively reviewed.

If we change anything to the handicaps the pilots will crucify us. It has to 
come from GFA.

 

Jacques

 

From: Tom & Kerrie Claffey [mailto:tom.ker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2017 2:59 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
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; Ron Sanders 
Subject: Re: [gfaforum] Handicaps

 

Ron,

The Keepit regatta does it's own handicaps.

Of course you are confused ;)

Tom

...

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 at 12:44, Ron Sanders  > wrote:

I am confused totally,

I have an old Nimbus 3DM. When i went to the Two seat Nats its handicap was 
1040 and yet if i had gone to the Keepit Regatta its handicap is 1220. So???

 

Ron

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Lake Keepit Regatta 2017 (5 Weeks to go)

[Jacques Graells]

Thank Harry, you are very welcome

 

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of 
Harry 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2017 6:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Lake Keepit Regatta 2017 (5 Weeks to go)

 

Hi Jacques,

 

Hoping to fly. Not sure which glider. Will let you know when can confirm. 
Please put me down as a probable.

 

Harry Medlicott

 

From: Jacques Graells 

Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 5:02 PM

To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 

Subject: [Aus-soaring] Lake Keepit Regatta 2017 (5 Weeks to go)

 

Just a reminder that we still have a few spots left in the Keepit Regatta which 
is in 5 weeks from now from the 25 Feb to the 4th March.

 

The Keepit Regatta is a no pressure, fun event to improve cross country skills 
and an introduction to competition.

We limit the entries to 30 so there is no stress and big gaggles.

 

In the morning we run briefing sessions on topics of interest for glider pilots 
then we run an AAT tasks and all join in for dinner (optional)

There is possibility for team flying, lead & follow, coaching and flight 
analysis.

 

The Keepit Regatta is equally suitable for the new pilots that want to learn as 
well as for seasoned pilots that want to take it easy, enjoy a relaxed event 
and if they wish, pass on their knowledge to the new generations.

 

The entry fee is only $140 per person catering will be available at reasonable 
prices.

 

If you do not have a glider, one of our D2’s is still available for hire for 
the event.

 

Details and registration here: 
http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/comps/lksc-regatta

 

Or you can contact me directly if you have any query

 

Regards

 

Jacques Graells

Lake Keepit Soaring Club

 

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[Aus-soaring] Lake Keepit Regatta 2017 (5 Weeks to go)

[Jacques Graells]

Just a reminder that we still have a few spots left in the Keepit Regatta
which is in 5 weeks from now from the 25 Feb to the 4th March.

 

The Keepit Regatta is a no pressure, fun event to improve cross country
skills and an introduction to competition.

We limit the entries to 30 so there is no stress and big gaggles.

 

In the morning we run briefing sessions on topics of interest for glider
pilots then we run an AAT tasks and all join in for dinner (optional)

There is possibility for team flying, lead & follow, coaching and flight
analysis.

 

The Keepit Regatta is equally suitable for the new pilots that want to learn
as well as for seasoned pilots that want to take it easy, enjoy a relaxed
event and if they wish, pass on their knowledge to the new generations.

 

The entry fee is only $140 per person catering will be available at
reasonable prices.

 

If you do not have a glider, one of our D2's is still available for hire for
the event.

 

Details and registration here:
http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/comps/lksc-regatta

 

Or you can contact me directly if you have any query

 

Regards

 

Jacques Graells

Lake Keepit Soaring Club

 

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Re: [Aus-soaring] flap settings/Dynamis

[Jacques Graells]

LS6 has L,+10,+5, 0 and for negative it is 0 to -5 but there is no notches,
you just leave the handle where you feel it should be.

 

 

From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf
Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 4:55 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] flap settings/Dynamis

 

Thanks again everyone.

I just need the number of performance (excluding landing flap) flap
positions not the actual degrees although the latter may help.

Looks like 6 is the most common number. We're constructing a look up table
in eeprom and need to know how many numbers we need to hold.

In a discussion this afternoon we may have found a way to do this this
without going to so much trouble.

Mike



At 03:56 PM 4/20/2016, you wrote:



For the JS1C, in degrees of deflection.  Best glide figures are published
for F4. F1  -3° F2  +0° F3  +5° F4 +13.5° F5 +16.6° L +20° Best
regards, Casey iPad transmission > On 20 Apr 2016, at 13:49, DMcD
 > wrote: > >
Interestingly, a lot of flap settings are not actually positive or >
negative in relationship to the aerofoil zero line. It's just that the > min
sink setting is usually called zero and the others offset around > this, but
in some cases negative settings can be 0º in relation to the > foil itself.
> > Anyway, DG call them degrees… Landing is +15º and you then  have 8º, >
5º, 0º and -5º -10º and -14º from memory. > > D >
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