Re: [Aus-soaring] Flarm mouse troubles

[Paul Bart]

Hmmm, and the incessant bashing of GFA and club structure does?

Cheers

Paul


On 19 Apr 2017 9:39 am, "Mark Newton"  wrote:

Can we not do this again, people?  Perhaps take it to private email, it’s
not reflecting well on anyone in public.

  - mark


On 19 Apr 2017, at 4:07 AM, Nathan Frawley 
wrote:





"The unit was returned some time later after apparently being tested. "

Wow.

I find your implication that we would lie about testing and doing our due
diligence appallingly rude, unfounded, and ill-informed.




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Re: [Aus-soaring] Flarm Firmware Update

[Paul Bart]

On 9 March 2017 at 08:15, DMcD  wrote:

> My experience of FLARM has generally been OK with the exception of
> gliders approaching head-to-head. FLARM does not seem to pick these
> other gliders up anywhere near as well as for a glider which is more
> abeam or astern.
>

​Antenna position?​


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Re: [Aus-soaring] L2 Independent Ops

[Paul Bart]

On 11 February 2017 at 14:39, Mike Borgelt 
wrote:

> ​I a​
> m talking about very poor judgement/ability on the part of the people who
> are meant to be doing the supervising.
>
> Who guards the guardians?
>


Quite some time ago an Australian Air Force crew ​managed to put a
perfectly flyable F-111 into a ground in northern NSW, killing both.

Not so long ago an Air France crew plonked perfectly flyable Airbus into
the Atlantic, three pilots combining their collective training / knowledge
/ supervision for about 10 minutes before they killed everyone aboard.

Quite recently an Asiana air crew flew a perfectly flyable Boeing in to a
seawall in San Francisco. Again all pilots would have been supervised
trained by a professional organisation.

I am sure you would be able to recall many more accidents of similar nature.

People will manage to screw up no matter what training they have received.


Cheers

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Re: [Aus-soaring] L2 Independent Ops

[Paul Bart]

On 11 February 2017 at 14:05, Mike Borgelt 
wrote:

> When will the carnage end?
>

​When people decide to be sensible. No amount of training will mitigate
against poor judgment at a particular instance in time.

Bruce Taylor, cleary a glider pilot with loads of talent and currency has
recently written an article in the gliding magazine how he barely escaped
from a situation that he put himself into.

Should he be purged also?
​


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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

[Paul Bart]

Interesting, but potentially meaningless as the study acknowledges that the
it cannot differentiate between the many limitations that have been applied
at the same time.

Given the information from the study below, is 100 hours counter productive?

Supervised driving 40 hours: ■ 16-year-old crash rates 21 percent lower
Supervised driving 50 hours: ■ 16-year-old crash rates 15 percent lower


Cheers

Paul


Cheers

Paul

On 11 February 2017 at 13:57, Stuart Wolf  wrote:

>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>> ​So there is an actual evidence to show this, properly corrected for
>> variables that may have also produced this results. Better cars, roads come
>> to mind, I am sure there are others.
>>
>> Are there less accidents for drivers certified under the new system? .
>>
>
> Yep
>
>  https://www.nhtsa.gov/document/traffic-tech-meta-
> analysis-graduated-driver-licensing-laws-effectiveness-specific-program
>
> A meta analysis of America GDL
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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

[Paul Bart]

On 11 February 2017 at 13:08, Stuart Wolf  wrote:


But what the evidence shows is more supervised hours, not less are an
> effective risk mitigation strategy, as is ongoing validation. Especially
> around the experience danger zone. There is a reason the state licensing
> went with 80, 100 and 120 hours


​So there is an actual evidence to show this, properly corrected for
variables that may have also produced this results. Better cars, roads come
to mind, I am sure there are others.

Are there less accidents for drivers certified under the new system? .

Cheers

Paul​


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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] Re: Positive advertising for clubs

[Paul Bart]

Well I am not a board member, but I am very pleased. Given the posts I have
seen from John, he clearly is not the right person for the job.

To continually willify current members on the basis of age, clothing they
may wear or even how they smell is totally counter productive.

Surely he should know that the direction the membership number will take is
based on both the retention number as well new acquisition numbers. I think
his rhetoric hurts both. Current members may very well feel under valued
and unwanted and prospective members, should they bother to read all that
has been said over the past two weeks or so on this forum would hardly be
to impressed to join the organisation.

Yet most that I have read were examples based on particular personalities,
this CFI did this that L2 instructed did that. Surely people should
appreciate that in any group of people some will be great other less so.
There are good teachers and there bad ones. There are good doctors and
there are bad ones. Such is life. Hardly surprising that we should find it
in gliding.

I am not saying that all is well with GFA, any organisation can improve.
However I am totally positive that it is not as bad as some contributors
have stated.

I sincerely hope that prospective members will not take the contribution in
this thread too seriously, as I am sure it will not help our cause.

Cheers


Paul
DDSC


On 6 Feb. 2017 16:20, "Luke Pavy"  wrote:

>
> Would a GFA board member please explain the reasoning behind this?
>
> Better move with the times and take the discussion to Facebook then.
>
>
> On 6 Feb 2017, at 3:58 pm, John Styles - GFA Chair Mktg & Development <
> c...@glidingaustralia.org> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Be advised that I am no longer able to participate in this open and lively
> discussion about our sports future as I have had a gag order placed on me
> by the Board forbidding to participate the Australian Gliding Forum
> anymore.
>
> However do not let that stop you from having an open mind receptive to new
> ideas and to explore ways to achieve success as yu never know someday
> someone may hear, but I doubt any day soon though.
>
> “Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
> ― Benjamin Franklin
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 8:23:22 PM UTC+11, anthony.smith wrote:
>>
>> For what it’s worth:  An idea that has been lurking in the back of my
>> mind for a while now (it probably isn’t new) is this:
>>
>>
>>
>> A gliding club approaches the local high school and enquires whether they
>> have a ‘media studies’ course in years 10 or 11.
>>
>>
>>
>> If they do, is the course looking for a media project?  Pitch the idea to
>> the school that the club is looking for a 25 min promotional video to be
>> put together by the class.
>>
>>
>>
>> Give the class plenty of latitude as to how to promote the club.
>> Remember the target audience is their peer group.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do whatever it takes to get the class out to the airfield (during the
>> week and during school hours or immediately after school hours) during the
>> year.  Initially orientation and safety, planning and scripting and then
>> recording etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Publish the finished product on YouTube and approach the local community
>> tv station to broadcast it (they are normally begging for local content).
>>
>>
>>
>> Repeat the above every two (?) years with variations on a theme:  What is
>> it like to learn to fly a glider (aka’ Lucy learns to fly’.  Don't show
>> this video to the class, let them try and come up with the creativity and
>> then compare it later), Provide a documentary on the club’s annual regatta
>> (the regatta would need to be scheduled to fit in with the school year) etc
>> etc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It is a win – win situation if the school allows the project, with the
>> real aim of exposing a bunch of 15 year olds to gliding.  Plus you may get
>> a reasonable promotional video at the end of it. A video made by high
>> school students for high school students.
>>
>>
>>
>> Admittedly some clubs might not be close enough to a local high school
>> and the school system is likely to put a few hurdles in the way.  It may
>> also cost a bit of money depending on the schools resources / equipment.
>>
>>
>>
>> But it is certainly some potentially positive advertising that can be
>> achieved at a club level that may result in gaining some younger members
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Anthony
>>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

Thanks for the explanation Richard. Will read the article for sure.

Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 21:08, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> all ok, was not offended.
>
> heat stroke (not dehydration), was the cause, very hot, too long
> struggling in difficult conditions and my fault for not giving myself
> longer to recover from bad gastro (a week before)….
>
> fainted on short final. hit a tree (luckily) which saved my life as did
> the farmer in the paddock who saw me crash and stopped me bleeding to death.
>
> I will get around to writing it up for the magazine soon.
>
> Longer recovery is something we all need to be mindful of, especially as
> we get older.
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 8:46 pm, Paul Bart  wrote:
>
> Sorry Richard, please accept my apology.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 3 Feb. 2017 18:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>
>> ahh, not when your unconscious
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 7:08 PM, Paul Bart  wrote:
>>
>>
>> LS8 decided to land in tree
>>
>> Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.
>>
>> Ultimate denial?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>>
>>> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good
>>> rehab from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>>>
>>> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> get grief, go get a life […]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   - mark
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

Sorry Richard, please accept my apology.



Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 18:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> ahh, not when your unconscious
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 7:08 PM, Paul Bart  wrote:
>
>
> LS8 decided to land in tree
>
> Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.
>
> Ultimate denial?
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>
>> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good
>> rehab from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>>
>> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> get grief, go get a life […]
>> >
>> >
>> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>> >
>> >
>> >   - mark
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

LS8 decided to land in tree

Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.

Ultimate denial?


Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good rehab
> from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>
> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> get grief, go get a life […]
> >
> >
> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
> >
> >
> >   - mark
> >
> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

Mark Newton wrote:
nearly 700 members have worked out that it’s easier to get an instructor
rating than a Level 2 Independent Operator rating. Also easier to get a
crew organized if you’re an instructor and you offer to run a day.

That’s a perverse outcome, isn't it?  I mean, in an ideal world, it
wouldn’t be that way?


Well not really, at best it is a perverse supposition you have made.
Potentially there may be some other explanations.


Cheers


Paul

On 1 Feb. 2017 23:02, "Mark Newton"  wrote:

Registration doesn’t expire, so an aircraft stays on the register even if
it’s wrecked in a blown-over trailer in a corner of a gliding field that
its deceased owner hasn’t visited for ten years.

The real point of interest is the number of form-2 kits the GFA sells each
year.

Mandy Temple’s “Mande-news” on June 10 last year included an extract from
the GFA’s Salesforce database, which said there were 738 gliders with a
current form-2 as of that date.

So - slightly over half of the total number of registered gliders are
airworthy.

The same extract said 2584 members flew GFA aircraft for 115,100 hours from
68,200 launches in 2015-16 (based on form-2 returns).  That means every
airworthy GFA aircraft *averaged* 156 hours and 92 launches, making
the *average
*GFA aircraft flight 102 minutes long.

Not sure what to make of that. Must be some absolute bladder-buster long
endurance flights to compensate for the thousands of 6 minute circuits all
the winch clubs spend most of the winter flying.

Also means the average GFA member logs about 45 hours per year. Once again,
some pilots must be absolutely cranking out the hours to make up for the
trainees who only log between 5 and 20 hours per year.

The other weird numbers worth noting: GFA had issued 932 GPCs, and had 189
AEIs, 97 Level 1 instructors, 306 Level 2 instructors, and 97 Level 3
instructors. That’s 689 members with instructor ratings (out of 2584 total
— over a quarter of GFA’s membership base), and each Level 3 having their
very own personal Level 1 to train.

Let me put it another way: There’s an instructor for every three
non-instructor GFA members.

The ratio is even stranger if you compare instructor headcount to GPC
holders, and observe that 689 of those 932 GPCs are actually supposed to be
instructors.

I reckon GFA members get instructor ratings instead of Level-2 Independent
Ops.  If you want to fly club aircraft whenever you want without needing
anyone’s permission, nearly 700 members have worked out that it’s easier to
get an instructor rating than a Level 2 Independent Operator rating. Also
easier to get a crew organized if you’re an instructor and you offer to run
a day.

That’s a perverse outcome, isn't it?  I mean, in an ideal world, it
wouldn’t be that way?

  - mark



On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:04 PM, steph...@internode.on.net wrote:



>From the aircraft register of  2013

1220 gliders and motor gliders

950 privately owned

270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc.


last year

1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual)

981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual)

295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual)


Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about
trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private ownership
(in absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and as others will
point out, only about half of the gliders in Australia are given an
annual in any one year, so it all may be moot anyway).

gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total)

36 private

28 club

Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air
cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right
there.



For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on.





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to put a different spin on it, how about asking some different questions

1) how many gliders are there now?

2) how many are privately owned (percentage change)?

3) have the annual flown hours per pilot gone up or down?







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Re: [Aus-soaring] JS3

[Paul Bart]

On 14 December 2016 at 11:25, DMcD  wrote:


If there was more money involved, I don't think these kinks would
> exist and the leading edge would be a smooth transition from root to
> winglet.
>

​Or one could by a SZD-55, which has precisely that, there is a good one
for sale right now :)



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Re: [Aus-soaring] JS3

[Paul Bart]

On 13 December 2016 at 08:44, Mike Borgelt 
wrote:

Note also locations of pitot static and TE *probes on the tips of the
> tailplane*


​A glider repairer dream I would guess.



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[Aus-soaring] SZD-55-1 for sale

[Paul Bart]

Firstly, apologies for cross posting and apologies to the who believe that
this is a misuse of the forum.

SZD-55-1 VH SOJ fully refinished in 2007 and maintained since then by Roger
Bond. Immaculate condition.

Year of manufacture 1996

Total hours 1070, Landings 360

Instruments :B-800, LX V3, Swissflarm, Flarmview 57,

Radio: XCOM radio, 2 years old

Parachute MARS, less than 1 year old

Mountain High Oxygen System

Full Jaxida dust covers, weather proof canopy cover

Avionics dual axle clamshell trailer in good condition.

Tow-out gear

Water ballast: 200 l, Glide ratio 43 : 1

National champion. great handling, semi-aerobatic.

Price $59000.00 negotiable
Contact Paul 0412194318 or pb2...@gmail.com

Photos and a advert at GFA classifieds and at http://www.sailplanes.co/


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Re: [Aus-soaring] Flarm antenna connector

[Paul Bart]

Or, depending on design, you could cut several mm of the antenna, plenty of
calculators on the web

Flarm radio transmission frequency:
Europe between 868.0 and 868.6 MHz
In Australia around 921 MHz.

Cheers

Paul

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> Dear WPP,
>
> Your European Flarm Antenna is not tuned to the Frequencies Flarm use in
> Australia.
>
> What you need is a new Flarm Antenna.
>
> Your helpful ex-Flarm man
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Adam Woolley 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I've just imported a new glider from EUR, it sports a flarm antenna with
>> the wrong connection for my Australian PowerFlarm.
>>
>> I don't want to buy a new antenna & I don't want to use an adaptor to
>> change the sex of the lead.
>>
>> Does anyone know where to buy a flarm connector to solder onto the end of
>> my current lead, or have a solution for me?
>>
>>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] Article on human eyesight limitations

[Paul Bart]

On 24 May 2016 at 20:02, Richard Frawley  wrote:


Agree an article would be good, can go in the coaching article archives as
> well


​Yes, but please ask somebody who is qualified


Cheers

Paul​




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Re: [Aus-soaring] spinning

[Paul Bart]

Hi Mike

Just put

Aviation Safety Network Puchaczs

into Google and up they come.

Checked all the fatal ones, it would seem to confirm that Puchaczses indeed
stall and spin, which of course is in the manual.




Cheers

Paul

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wrote:

> At 08:57 PM 5/9/2016, you wrote:
>
> The Aviation Safety Network website lists 77 occurences with Puchaczs with
> the first spinning fatality on July 01 1982 in Poland, the latest March 17
> 2016 in Japan. In between there are numerous spinning accidents.
>
>
> Beats me how you found that on the website.
>
> Do you have a link. I can't even find "gliders".
>
> Mike
>
>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] The Golden Age

[Paul Bart]

"I would never, ever get into a Puchacz to spin it, especially off a winch
launch. We need to retain all the pilots we have."

Here we go again, lets get into the the Puch, to be honest I would not get
into a Puch and spin of a 900 ft winch either, but that does not mean I
would not do it at an altitude that allows me to recover by 1000 ft.

Does anyone has any stats on how many fatalities there were in Australia in
Puch spin training accidents? It would be nice to have some data before we
go and sully the Puch reputation.

Personally I am much happier spinning Puch than K21 with 12 KG of lead
attached to its tail.



Cheers

Paul

On 9 May 2016 at 12:07, Derek Ruddock  wrote:

> My spin training was just as Harry described below, in a K7 at Dunstable.
> Talk about ground rush…
>
>
>
> I would never, ever get into a Puchacz to spin it, especially off a winch
> launch. We need to retain all the pilots we have.
>
>
>
> *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] *On
> Behalf Of *Harry
> *Sent:* Sunday, 8 May 2016 12:54 PM
>
> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] The Golden Age
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> A few comments to add to Peter Brockman’s  thoughtful contribution.
>
>
>
> My first experience as an instructor in relation to spin training was at a
> winch launch club  which on a yearly basis brought in a tug and training
> involved a 3,000 ft. launch. No problem with spin recovery with trainees or
> those seeking a yearly revalidation. It was done correctly. My next
> experience was at a winch launch club where aerotow was unavailable and for
> some of the year difficult to  climb away after a winch launch. After
> personal experimentation I was able, using a Blanik which has benign spin
> training characteristics, to enter a spin at 1,300 ft, execute one turn and
> recover by the mandated 1,000 ft. However the student response was quite
> different. Despite very careful preflight briefing the student, as soon as
> he saw the ground directly underneath him, would pull the control column
> backwards and also away from the downgoing wing. Just what you would do to
> keep a glider in a spin. Pilots need to told of this automatic reaction,
> even though training is done at a high altitude. I also used to say to
> nervous pilots, (most of them), that what we were doing was spin avoidance
> training. First item was to fly the glider at safe speed near the ground
> and invite them to fly the glider in as an unbalanced way as possible and
> attempt to induce a stall or spin. The other item I considered important
> was that on every training flight, from the very first, was to to
> positively emphasise that when we were below the height from which spin
> recovery was doubtful, to consciously select safe speed near the ground. On
> early winch training flights, to maximise time available, I would waffle
> along downwind leg training as we went. What I was teaching them
> subliminally was that I myself was happy to break the safe speed near the
> ground rule.
>
>
>
> Harry Medlicott
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter Brookman 
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 07, 2016 10:25 AM
>
> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] The Golden Age
>
>
>
> I notice the reference to a club that bought a Puchacz, would be our club,
> BKGC, that bought the Puchacz from DDSC , so we could conform with GFA
> requirement for fully developed spins and recovery as part of the AFR. We
> have tried to have club members travel to another club for spin checks,
> while a few did it was not a workable solution for our members. We have a
> Twin Astir which is very difficult to get to spin (only if pilot weights as
> correct), and I don’t see how we are expected to add things to the aircraft
> to make it do manoeuvres it was designed not to do. Also if you do get the
> Twin to spin which we have on odd occasions, it can get quite violent when
> rotating and I don’t think a good idea for students and others to have to
> experience.
>
> I don’t see the merit of doing fully developed spins on a regular basis
> (apart from the increased risk of accident or structural failure), we
> should be teaching the importance of safe speed near the ground, recognise
> the onset of a stall or spin and recover. As we know a fully developed spin
> ( not taking action at the signs of a spin developing) any thing below 500
> ft will probably end in disaster. I know for the AFR these spins will
> usually be done at 3,000 ft or more, in our club with winch launching and
> typical launch heights of 1,000 – 1,200 ft its not always easy to get away
> with the intention of getting high enough to complete the spin checks
> during the cooler months of the year.
>
> I do believe that all students or early solo pilots should have
> experienced some aerobatics (inc Spins) with a suitably qualified
> instructor to experience unusual attitudes an aircraft can g

Re: [Aus-soaring] Skyboard

[Paul Bart]

Is it not what they said about trains/ cars back in the day? Scaring horses
and such? :)

Cheers

Paul
On May 1, 2016 08:52, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> no it's not.
>
> it's a dead end canyon.
>
> the dB's alone are a death knell.
>
>
>
> On 1 May 2016, at 1:04 PM, Ross McLean  wrote:
>
> Yep agree totally Leigh.  I really don't understand all the negative
> comments about this guy and his incredible invention.
>
>
>
> What he has come up with is amazingly innovative and it is just in it's
> infancy right now.
>
> Imagine where this could lead in a few years time with further development.
>
>
>
> I am sure that Igor Sikorsky had his share of negative detractors in his
> day when he invented that awfully inefficient noisy helicopter thing. Now
> look how incredible helicopter technology is today, we couldn't do without
> them these days.
>
>
>
> What I see here is an innovator trying to publicise an early piece of
> technology to source further development funding.
>
>
>
> A number of people originally said this was a scam, well it has proven not
> to be, so now it's "nothing to be excited about here"  are you kidding, it
> is incredibly exciting Richard!
>
> ROSS
>
>
> _
>
>
>
> *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au
> ] *On Behalf Of *Leigh Bunting
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 May 2016 12:24 PM
> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Skyboard
>
>
>
> Hey Richard,
>
> Are you becoming a curmudgeon? When did any non-thoughts of efficiency
> ever stop ppl from doing something - just because they can?
>
> Look at all those ppl who drive around the burbs in a 3000kg, V8-powered
> Toorak tractor just to transport ~80kg of meat, when a Ford Ka or Holden
> Barina will do the same thing?
>
> Cheers
> Leigh BUNTING
> Balaklava GC
>
> On 1 May 2016 11:20, Richard Frawley  wrote:
> >
> > sweet,  more than 1000hp to do what can be done with less than 150hp in
> a nice single seat chopper and cant even fly to the shops and back. promo
> stunt at best.
> >
> > nothing to be excited about here
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Re: [Aus-soaring] SkySight.io - next generation soaring weather forecast

[Paul Bart]

Hi Justin

This is quite concerning as I use PayPal. However I wonder, why did your
friends had entire sets of accounts registered with PayPal? I operate a low
ceiling credit card I use when OS and for all Internet purchases, including
PayPal, however one has to link at least one bank account as well. So I am
very curious how they could lock other bank accounts. So far I had zero
problems with PayPal over many years of use, unlike my other( local) credit
card provider which allowed my credit card emptied from some casino in
Egypt. That was quite a few years back though, I think they are far better
at monitoring unusual purchase patterns now.

Cheers

Paul
On Apr 11, 2016 04:57, "Justin Couch"  wrote:

> On 11/04/2016 12:46 PM, DMcD wrote:
>
>> Absolutely atrocious company to deal with

>>>
>> Are they any worse than Ebay? Or Google? or Telstra.
>>
>
> Yes. (well Paypal used to be owned by eBay)
>
> Two friends had their entire set of bank accounts and credit cards frozen
> by paypal and given no reason why. I also had my own sacrificial credit
> card locked by them as well. They were not able to get anyone to answer,
> nor get them unlocked for quite a few months causing severe financial
> distress (house loan defaults etc etc). They were eventually unlocked
> without any hint of wording or why, nor any apology or restitution for the
> financial problems caused.
>
> If you don't mind having your entire financial life screwed over, by all
> means make use of them. They are completely unregulated because "we are not
> a bank". At least ebay/google/telstra etc are not capable of causing that
> much damage to your life. My and my friend's experience is very far from
> isolated case.
>
>
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>  distinguish, recognise and appreciate? Is it one light with many
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Update from Flarm on Unsolicited Email Circulation

[Paul Bart]

On 8 March 2016 at 12:47, Al Borowski  wrote:

Open protocols brought us things like free email (imagine if each one
> cost 5 cents to send!)
>

​Right now I wish it was at least dollar:)

Cheers

Paul​




Cheers

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Update from Flarm on Unsolicited Email Circulation

[Paul Bart]

On 7 March 2016 at 20:09, Mark Newton  wrote:

Now, I don’t care enough to write a letter to the ACCC about it, but maybe
> someone else does. I think it’s worth raising.


​I am sure they are keen to hear it Mark :). Just the other day there was a
report suggesting ACCC stated that whilst they are aware of the fact that
Queensland motorists are being ripped off to the tune of 7c a litre of
petrol, as compared to the southern states, they do not have sufficient
funding to fight it.​



Cheers

Paul
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding

[Paul Bart]

Yes, but when they coined that impressive phrase, they assumed that the
facts used would be relevant. Unless you actually know what happened to the
glider you are just guessing and "the facts" put forward may be entirely
irrelevant to what happened. Whilst you have said the the pilot can speak
for himself, you then went ahead and suggested that he was low on approach.

Cheers

Paul
On 1 Mar 2016 21:29, "Peter Champness"  wrote:

> "Anyway after looking at Google Earth and the TV footage I don't think
> we're talking about a misjudged skinny final glide in this case."
>
> Disagree!  Adelaide doctor can answer for himself.
>
> The approach to Waikerie airfield from the North involves;
> 1, crossing the river,
> 2. an up slope of 100 ft or more from the river.
> 3. vineyards before the airfield boundary,
> 4. powerlines.
> 5. runway is uphill.
>
> Glider landed in the vines.  The legal phase (sometimes used in medical
> cases) is "res ipse loquitor" - the facts speek for themselves.
>
> Peter Champness
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Mike Borgelt <
> mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> wrote:
>
>> I was trying to figure out what you were getting at. I use a glide
>> computer, not the Mark 1 eyeball for final glides. If you are going to do
>> really skinny final glides it better be one you are familiar with and a
>> glider you are familiar with.
>> I'm also very conservative and while I've taken the risk of having an
>> outlanding in order to gain contest points I've never knowingly risked my
>> life by going where I couldn't reasonably get to a suitable landing area.
>> I've been fortunate to have an outstanding crew who can drive and navigate
>> and a good trailer so de-rigging is a simple 5 minute operation. Running
>> into a rabbit hole in the paddock is just the luck of the draw. In 63 for
>> real paddock landings the worst damage was a flat main tyre.(there's an
>> interesting story - don't land out on the highest ground for about 100 km
>> around - and eagles climb better than gliders)
>>
>> Anyway after looking at Google Earth and the TV footage I don't think
>> we're talking about a misjudged skinny final glide in this case. YMMV (Your
>> Mileage May Vary). Then again we may never get to know and speculation is
>> all we have.
>> It doesn't do any harm BTW. We have a broken glider and pilot and it can
>> be a great learning experience to figure out how this MIGHT have happened.
>> Trusting officialdom to come up with the truth is fraught. I know of one
>> GFA accident investigation that was totally FUBAR because of faulty logic
>> and lack of understanding of the characteristics of the instrumentation
>> relied upon.
>> The ATSB was brought into being because, quite rightly, it was perceived
>> that the regulator would never find fault with its own rules and procedures
>> even when they were contributory. The GFA investigates itself.
>> Does anyone know what really happened at Ararat nearly 4 years ago? Like
>> how many hours did the instructor have? How many solo? How many
>> instructing? How many last 12 months, last 90 days? The US NTSB would let
>> you know.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 06:13 PM 3/1/2016, you wrote:
>>
>>> Possibly of interest Mike.Â
>>>
>>> Can you enlarge on this comment.  Do you mean open the dive brakes 10
>>> km for the Airfield and make an off field landing, as I have suggested?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Mike Borgelt <>> mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com>mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> wrote:
>>> I thought that's what dive brakes were for.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:12 AM 3/1/2016, you wrote:
>>>
 There have been quite a few accidents in recent years due to misjudging
 the approach to landing and undershooting.

 Clearly if the angle of approach seems too low a pilot will take option
 B and make an outlanding.  It is probably much easier to see this in a
 short wing Kookaburra than it is in a 50:1 glider.   In a high
 performance glider the difference between a safe approach and a marginal
 one is about 1 degree.  Worse still if the area adjacent to the runway
 is unlandable and hence the outlanding decision must be taken quite a way
 from the airfield. Â Â

 Hence when flying a modern glider it is probably a good idea to add an
 additional safety marginÂ

 On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Gary Stevenson <>>> gstev...@bigpond.com>gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote:
 Hello Bob,
 Good to see you in print again.
 Â
 For newer members to our sport, Let me say that Bob has “been
 there and done that†in reference to most elements of our sport. OOn this
 particular aspect of our sport . yep he has  â€ÅÅ“ been there and
 done that†too, having looked Death in the eye after he had a nassty
 landing discussion with a fence.
 Â
 Again for newer members, I have attached what is perhaps the seminal
 article (1993)

Re: [Aus-soaring] Autonomous soaring

[Paul Bart]

D, the fact that it will be done without burning those pesky hydrocarbons
should decrease your pain.

Cheers

Paul
On Feb 11, 2016 11:51, "DMcD"  wrote:

> Interesting yes, alarming maybe.
>
> I had always hoped that gliding had no useful purpose and that it was
> something like surfing. that one did just for the sake of it. Not
> something that you could use for killing people.
>
> To find that the Tactical Electronic Warfare Division of the US Navy
> has come close to solving problems which the rest of us do for fun is
> a little disorientating.
>
> I can see a point in time where the air is filled so with drones of
> all sorts that recreational "pilots" sit at home wearing VR glass
> goggles and claim to be flying.
>
> D
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Serial to USB

[Paul Bart]

Did you check on which port it is on in the device manager? They tend to
end up on some unusual numbers.

Cheers

Paul
On Nov 30, 2015 10:28, "jim crowhurst"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I've had limited (no) success with a serial to USB connector I bought from
> Jaycar for my laptop (running windows 8 64 bit) to talk to my Lx 5000. Has
> anyone else had issues with these connectors, or is there one make better
> than the others that works reliably?
>
>
>
> Jim
>
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