[Aus-soaring] confor foam
On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a demo of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the air. He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or so months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider was all but undamaged. Here is the link to confor foam http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to injuries it may prevent. Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in all gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you will ever buy in gliding. If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot walks away. The video or is it a series of still photos of the crash. Thanks to Jenny Ganderton most of the gliders at Keepit have confor in almost all gliders. Personally I think GFA should mandate the use of confor instead of highly recommending it but at least that is a start.. Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of their pricing. http://specialtyfoams.com.au Regs Ben On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > demo > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > air. > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > so > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > was > all but undamaged. > > Here is the link to confor foam > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to > injuries > it may prevent. > > Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with > confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. > > We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in > all > gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally > important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you > will > ever buy in gliding. > > If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and > the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot > walks > away. The video or is it a series of still photos of the crash. > > Thanks to Jenny Ganderton most of the gliders at Keepit have confor in > almost all gliders. > > Personally I think GFA should mandate the use of confor instead of highly > recommending it but at least that is a start.. > > Ian McPhee > ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] OAMPS going offshore
OAMPS is one of the few underwriters for gliding and other aviation risks - I wonder if there will be changes in this space now http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-07/wesfarmers-sells-insurance-broking-arm-to-us-firm-for-one-billi/5371760 Thanks & Regards, Nelson Handcock 0409 149919 http://www.linkedin.com/in/nelsonhandcockaustralia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do you know? As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. Regards, Gary -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of b_br...@tpg.com.au Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of their pricing. http://specialtyfoams.com.au Regs Ben On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > demo > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > air. > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > so > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > was > all but undamaged. > > Here is the link to confor foam > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to > injuries > it may prevent. > > Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with > confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. > > We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in > all > gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally > important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you > will > ever buy in gliding. > > If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and > the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot > walks > away. The video or is it a series of still photos of the crash. > > Thanks to Jenny Ganderton most of the gliders at Keepit have confor in > almost all gliders. > > Personally I think GFA should mandate the use of confor instead of highly > recommending it but at least that is a start.. > > Ian McPhee > ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7309 - Release Date: 04/06/14 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Hi all, Under Airworthiness-Docs/Forms AIR0003 Crashworthiness.pdf Cheers /Tim Shirley/ /tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/ On 07/04/2014 11:28, Gary Stevenson wrote: These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do you know? As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. Regards, Gary -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of b_br...@tpg.com.au Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of their pricing. http://specialtyfoams.com.au Regs Ben On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a demo of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the air. He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or so months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider was all but undamaged. Here is the link to confor foam http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to injuries it may prevent. Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in all gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you will ever buy in gliding. If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot walks away. The video or is it a series of still photos of the crash. Thanks to Jenny Ganderton most of the gliders at Keepit have confor in almost all gliders. Personally I think GFA should mandate the use of confor instead of highly recommending it but at least that is a start.. Ian McPhee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7309 - Release Date: 04/06/14 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Well explained Gary. Yes green is the most dense and have bought same from WA at John Vineys suggestion. In cold green can be a bit of a solid board. Mr demo is usually 1inch of blue (green works as well) on a brick wall and drive my fist with full strength and it never ever hurts. In confor it goes green, blue, pink, yellow & or white. Only the first two pass my test if 1 inch thick. Yellow is too soft but may work if 2 inch thick.?? Aldi had such pads last week but it is only for comfort & not for crash back protection I believe. I am yet to see a local foam product (except green from WA) meet my fist test thus order the correct product & you have back insurance for LIFE for $50. Ian mcp (a baby with a helmet band arrangement of confor can fall head first one to cement floor without damage) On 07/04/2014 11:29 AM, "Gary Stevenson" wrote: > > These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the > size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, > but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? > > Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar > products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the > foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For > Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to > MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? > > To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in > Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? > > I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. > > GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not > know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do > you know? > > As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be > layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used > for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making > it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. > > Regards, > Gary > > > > -Original Message- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of > b_br...@tpg.com.au > Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam > > Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of > their pricing. > > http://specialtyfoams.com.au > > > > Regs > Ben > > > On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > > > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > > demo > > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > > air. > > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > > so > > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > > was > > all but undamaged. > > > > Here is the link to confor foam > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > > protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to > > injuries > > it may prevent. > > > > Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with > > confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. > > > > We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in > > all > > gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally > > important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you > > will > > ever buy in gliding. > > > > If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and > > the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot > > walks > > away. The video or is it a series of still photos of the crash. > > > > Thanks to Jenny Ganderton most of the gliders at Keepit have confor in > > almost all gliders. > > > > Personally I think GFA should mandate the use of confor instead of highly > > recommending it but at least that is a start.. > > > > Ian McPhee > > > > > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4355 / Virus Database: 3722/7309 - Release Date: 04/06/14 > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Yeah, Paul Remde of Cumulus Soaring makes exactly the same point on his web site about the hardness of the green (CF-47) foam. One other (practical) point. You can shape this stuff with a band-saw or jig-saw. An electric carving knife is extremely handy for applications where the other two saws won't do, or won't fit, eg like tapering the thickness. If you don't have these tools - or can't be bothered - maybe Speciality Foams in WA would shape the foam for you (at an extra cost), if you sent them a template of the shape you require. Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 1:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Well explained Gary. Yes green is the most dense and have bought same from WA at John Vineys suggestion. In cold green can be a bit of a solid board. Mr demo is usually 1inch of blue (green works as well) on a brick wall and drive my fist with full strength and it never ever hurts. In confor it goes green, blue, pink, yellow & or white. Only the first two pass my test if 1 inch thick. Yellow is too soft but may work if 2 inch thick.?? Aldi had such pads last week but it is only for comfort & not for crash back protection I believe. I am yet to see a local foam product (except green from WA) meet my fist test thus order the correct product & you have back insurance for LIFE for $50. Ian mcp (a baby with a helmet band arrangement of confor can fall head first one to cement floor without damage) On 07/04/2014 11:29 AM, "Gary Stevenson" wrote: > > These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the > size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, > but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? > > Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar > products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the > foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For > Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to > MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? > > To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in > Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? > > I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. > > GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not > know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do > you know? > > As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be > layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used > for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making > it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. > > Regards, > Gary > > > > -Original Message- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of > b_br...@tpg.com.au > Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam > > Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of > their pricing. > > http://specialtyfoams.com.au > > > > Regs > Ben > > > On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > > > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > > demo > > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > > air. > > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > > so > > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > > was > > all but undamaged. > > > > Here is the link to confor foam > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > > protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to > > injuries > > it may prevent. > > > > Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with > > confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. > > > > We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so why not have confor in > > all > > gliders we fly and costs a lot less than a parachute and is equally > > important I believe. $50 is the cheapest one off insurance policy you > > will > > ever buy in gliding. > > > > If you want more proof go to the BGA web site for article on its use and > > the front cover will be a photo of a Swift glider crashing and pilot > > walks > > away. The video or is it a se
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Just got a quote from Specialty Foams, $ 120.- for a piece 500 mm X 1,000 mm plus postage & handling. Forgot to ask colour or hardness though. Rgds - Rolf From: gstev...@bigpond.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:59:57 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Yeah, Paul Remde of Cumulus Soaring makes exactly the same point on his web site about the hardness of the green (CF-47) foam. One other (practical) point. You can shape this stuff with a band-saw or jig-saw. An electric carving knife is extremely handy for applications where the other two saws won’t do, or won’t fit, eg like tapering the thickness. If you don’t have these tools – or can’t be bothered - maybe Speciality Foams in WA would shape the foam for you (at an extra cost), if you sent them a template of the shape you require. Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 1:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Well explained Gary. Yes green is the most dense and have bought same from WA at John Vineys suggestion. In cold green can be a bit of a solid board. Mr demo is usually 1inch of blue (green works as well) on a brick wall and drive my fist with full strength and it never ever hurts. In confor it goes green, blue, pink, yellow & or white. Only the first two pass my test if 1 inch thick. Yellow is too soft but may work if 2 inch thick.?? Aldi had such pads last week but it is only for comfort & not for crash back protection I believe. I am yet to see a local foam product (except green from WA) meet my fist test thus order the correct product & you have back insurance for LIFE for $50. Ian mcp (a baby with a helmet band arrangement of confor can fall head first one to cement floor without damage) On 07/04/2014 11:29 AM, "Gary Stevenson" wrote: > > These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the > size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, > but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? > > Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar > products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the > foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For > Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to > MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? > > To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in > Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? > > I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. > > GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not > know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do > you know? > > As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be > layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used > for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making > it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. > > Regards, > Gary > > > > -Original Message- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of > b_br...@tpg.com.au > Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam > > Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of > their pricing. > > http://specialtyfoams.com.au > > > > Regs > Ben > > > On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > > > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > > demo > > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > > air. > > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > > so > > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > > was > > all but undamaged. > > > > Here is the link to confor foam > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > > protection) and post per pad will be say $20 but that is minor to > > injuries > > it may prevent. > > > > Personally I will not sign a form 2 unless the glider is equipped with > > confor foam or they get a long talk that they have to order it NOW. > > > > We wear seat belts in gliders and cars always so
Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam
Didn't read quote thoroughly first time - $ 120.- is for 20 mm, $ 150.- same size but 25 mm, both plus GST plus postage & handling. Rgds - Rolf From: rbuel...@hotmail.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 15:08:32 +1000 Just got a quote from Specialty Foams, $ 120.- for a piece 500 mm X 1,000 mm plus postage & handling. Forgot to ask colour or hardness though. Rgds - Rolf From: gstev...@bigpond.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 13:59:57 +1000 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Yeah, Paul Remde of Cumulus Soaring makes exactly the same point on his web site about the hardness of the green (CF-47) foam. One other (practical) point. You can shape this stuff with a band-saw or jig-saw. An electric carving knife is extremely handy for applications where the other two saws won’t do, or won’t fit, eg like tapering the thickness. If you don’t have these tools – or can’t be bothered - maybe Speciality Foams in WA would shape the foam for you (at an extra cost), if you sent them a template of the shape you require. Gary From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 1:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam Well explained Gary. Yes green is the most dense and have bought same from WA at John Vineys suggestion. In cold green can be a bit of a solid board. Mr demo is usually 1inch of blue (green works as well) on a brick wall and drive my fist with full strength and it never ever hurts. In confor it goes green, blue, pink, yellow & or white. Only the first two pass my test if 1 inch thick. Yellow is too soft but may work if 2 inch thick.?? Aldi had such pads last week but it is only for comfort & not for crash back protection I believe. I am yet to see a local foam product (except green from WA) meet my fist test thus order the correct product & you have back insurance for LIFE for $50. Ian mcp (a baby with a helmet band arrangement of confor can fall head first one to cement floor without damage) On 07/04/2014 11:29 AM, "Gary Stevenson" wrote: > > These people get the foam in a large billet, and will cut you a piece to the > size and thickness required. From memory, their price was NOT competitive, > but that was years ago - maybe they now do a better deal? > > Confor is a brand name, and other manufacturers (in the USA), make similar > products. Note the plural in products: As well as different thicknesses the > foam is made in different densities, which are usually colour coded. For > Confor, green is the way to go. I think the blue product that Ian refers to > MAY be produced by another manufacturer. Ian?? > > To the best of my knowledge this type of foam is not manufactured in > Australia. Can anybody prove me wrong/advise of an Australian manufacturer? > > I note that Cumulus Soaring in the States is also a retail supplier. > > GFA on its old web site had a useful discussion on the product, but I do not > know if this information was carried across to the new site. Tim Shirley, do > you know? > > As a matter of interest the impact absorbing foam (Confor etc), can be > layered with other products too. I bought a layer of memory foam (as used > for comfort on some wheel-chairs), but never got around to actually making > it up and using it with the Confor in my glider cushion. > > Regards, > Gary > > > > -Original Message- > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of > b_br...@tpg.com.au > Sent: Monday, 7 April 2014 9:58 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] confor foam > > Doesn't necessarily need to come from the States, though I am not sure of > their pricing. > > http://specialtyfoams.com.au > > > > Regs > Ben > > > On Mon, Apr 7th, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: > > > On Saturday at Chris Thorps GFA safety seminar at Archerfield I gave a > > demo > > of 1 inch blue confor memory foam. Some people there obviously did not > > know about confor foam and recently a friend of mine is a southern state > > was involved in a ground loop in ASK 13 caused by long grass catching one > > wing and other wing gaining extra lift and whole glider lifted in the > > air. > > He was dumped from about 1metre leaving him with injured back for 2 or > > so > > months. He knew nothing of confor foam' and did not have same. Glider > > was > > all but undamaged. > > > > Here is the link to confor foam > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cmpages/conForFoan.php?clickkey=5944 > > > > It does cost $US23.50 for BLUE PAD 1 inch think (is all you need for > > protection) and po
