Re: [Aus-soaring] Glow sailplane & AUS legislation
Al might. Others may not. Could you enlighten us Mike? From: Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 5:48 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glow sailplane & AUS legislation Al, You know there is no safety case. I'm sure you know what is really going on. Mike At 04:47 PM 24/04/2015, you wrote: > GloW actually fits in 95.10 under RAAus. However very soon when > RAAus puts out their new ops manual it will be prohibited to turn off > the engine in flight deliberately. I'm sure all my RAAus customers > for varios, flying their motorgliders under RAAus will immediately > cease this practice. :-) What's the safety case for this? One of my long-term goals was to own an RAA registered motorglider. Self-launchers don't need the mandatory club system that the GFA is built around. Al ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4334/9610 - Release Date: 04/24/15 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass
“I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell. In every case the shell smells like turps is added where as BP smells normal like you expect fuel to smell like. People are smelling the difference 100%. Some are describing the smell as paint thinners.” Sniffing petrol a much cheaper way of getting high than aviating? “Shell is a golden bright yellow colour where BP is more normal fuel colour.” The yellow colour is the dye added for identification. All petrol blending streams are colourless. ...John From: Ian Mc Phee Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:29 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass I must admit I used epoxy resin Ciba/G 3600 and not vinyl ester. I am going to try again using vinyl ester. I am doing another trial with shell/liberty 98 and BP 98 with smell. In every case the shell smells like turps is added where as BP smells normal like you expect fuel to smell like. People are smelling the difference 100%. Some are describing the smell as paint thinners. Shell is a golden bright yellow colour where BP is more normal fuel colour. In germany they have zero issues of fuel turning clear fuel lines a real dark brown so dark you can not see brought be in 2 months. Sure happens here with liberty /shell So 98s are not the same. Ian mcphee On 04/02/2015 1:31 pm, "DMcD" wrote: >>I'll stick to Avgas in the BD-4 even though the 7:1 compression ratio engine (same as Super Cub) can handle unleaded from an octane rating basis. Unless things have changed, with some two strokes used in SLGs like the Solo engines, the manufacturer recommends using 95, not Avgas. The claim is that Avgas makes the engine run rougher and vibrate more than 95. It's difficult to get a real picture but a lot of the US experience, where they tend to overcompensate and use Avgas instead of 95, seems to suggest they have more problems overall, not less. Then again, they can't get the recommended Castrol 2 stroke oil either. I tend to agree with Mike here regarding resins too. It's really difficult to point your finger at the fuel without knowing more about the resins used in the layup. And the problems and expense of wing fuel bags seem to be not worth the effort. The recommendations in the manual that I have read say that they cannot be left with fuel in overnight, that they cannot be entirely drained either but need to have a small amount of oil in them. They have a very short life span (8-10 years?) and are sodding expensive to replace. Probably cheaper to replace than a fuselage mounted glass tank though! D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4281/9059 - Release Date: 02/05/15 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass
Most (all?) oil companies will tell you that mogas is not approved for aviation use. There are a number of reasons for this but one is the much greater compositional variability of mogas compared with avgas. This has little to do with additives, which are used at very low treat rates, but rather the composition of the fuel itself. As for testing fuel in Sydney, you could, but by the time you get any results they will be meaningless because a number of batches of fuel from various offshore refineries will have passed through the distribution system in the mean time. All it would tell you is the effect on resin of the fuel which happened to be in the service station tanks 3 months ago. ...John From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:16 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Shell 98 and fibreglass Hi Ian Many thanks for sharing that with us. It confirms what Gerhard Waibel told me about 15 years ago. He said that fuel bladders are preferable to wing tanks "because you never know what additives get added to the fuel in future and what they do to the resins used in those wing tanks”. Fuel bladders are easy to replace, but wing tanks ….. Kind regards to all! Bernard On 3 Feb 2015, at 2:14 pm, Ian Mc Phee wrote: This is sample of I think 3 layers of 125 glass which was left in shell 98 for about 2 months. The glass is now soft and can be easily twisted like say clear packaging. It is a bit sticky on surface. It seems it will never harden up again. Thus under no circumstances would I use Shell or Liberty 98 from say out of Brisbane in any aircraft with fibreglass tanks. Jabiru web site say do not use shell 98 in any Jabiru but 95,and Avgas is OK. Royal Dutch Shell sold out to another Dutch company for retail of fuel in Australia and they have the right to use the name Shell. My next test is sample of Shell 98 and BP 98 as well as Avgas. The Shell is a golden yellow while BP is more neutral colour. Smell is different also. If any body would like a mini movie of the sample then ask. I would urge others down south (Sydney, Vic & SA) to try their fuels. Ian mcphee ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4273/9047 - Release Date: 02/02/15 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182 tow hook information/drawings
Especially when the helicopters transitions into a hover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTloaMaoXKI -Original Message- From: Mark Newton Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 12:53 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Cessna 182 tow hook information/drawings On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Andrew Horton wrote: EFY is a skydiving C182 and has been for some time. RLC appears now to be a helicopter, according to the aircraft register. Does it have a tow hook on it? ‘cos that could be a lot of fun. - mark :-) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8233 - Release Date: 09/18/14 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Unsubscribe
I think Simon they were making a point rather than a request. - Original Message - From:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." To:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Cc: Sent:Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:35:56 +0930 Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Unsubscribe Hello Jim (and anyone else with the same request) - please read the bottom four lines of this message. Cheers, Simon On 13 Sep 2014, at 9:31 am, jim crowhurst wrote: Unsubscribe me please Jim Crowhurst___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net [2] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring - Email sent using Optus Webmail Links: -- [1] mailto:jimcrowhu...@hotmail.com [2] mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] For sale ASH-31
If the buyer goes 20 knots over VNE would you be happy to replace the glider? From: Grietje Wansink Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 5:08 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] For sale ASH-31 If someone needs 20kts over VNE with the glider I am happy to replace the instrument. Grietje On 9/09/13 12:19 AM, Ian Mc Phee wrote: And notice Winter ASI VNE (red radial) seems to be 150kts or 152kts. Strictly speaking GFA require for issue if Australian C of A an ASI with markings on ASIs 20 kts over the VNE. To all considering new gliders ask the factory for an ASI with a mark at 170kts as have been provided by Achim Winter for more than 10 years and costs noting extra (just ask) Ian McPhee PS several other makers are missing this ASI mark issue also but JS1 seem to be getting it right. . On 9 September 2013 06:28, Mike Borgelt wrote: That instrument panel picture tells you why it is a bad idea to integrate the flight recorder into your soaring instruments. Mike Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6648 - Release Date: 09/08/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
Here’s one for sale. Looks pricy? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Microair-760-VHF-Aviation-Transceiver-Service-Manual-Avionics-/110998066462#ht_413wt_1161 From: Roger Druce Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 John Ashford seeks a service manual, ie beyond installation issues. My best advice is to send the radio to Microair. I reckon they know of this issue and will fix it. I have had good service from them recently. Regards Roger Druce On 26/08/2013 6:59 PM, jo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760
This one? http://www.microair.com.au/admin/uploads/documents/M760installusermanualverM.pdf From: John Ashford Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Microair 760 I’m looking for a service manual for Microair 760. Can anyone help me with a copy or advise what might cause the display to fade intermittently? John ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3211/6607 - Release Date: 08/25/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Pretty clever....
Sounds great. Except that without a connection to ADS-B it lacks wind data, and estimates IAS only from GPS ground speed and GPS altitude. Wouldn’t want to relay on it as a backup ASI. Also its gliding range indications and path guidance is based on a zero wind assumption also. Um. From: Michael Scutter Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:56 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pretty clever Yes the lookout is appalling! Connect the iPad to the controls and you don't need the pilot at all. As he said nothing could be simpler or more complete. Michael On 22/07/2013, at 1:59 PM, Paul Bart wrote: Nice app, but did you post it to show us all how much power pilots look out? Cheers Paul Cheers Paul On 22 July 2013 12:04, Michael Shirley wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KE00OMiKVQ#at=297 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3204/6509 - Release Date: 07/21/13 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Yes, but I doubt the NZ government had glider towing in mind when they established diesel tax rates. Using the fuel prices given below, at 6L/100km (a figure more typical of a small to medium diesel car on a trip) the costs work out the same. $95.40 per 1000km for both petrol and diesel. Nonetheless, on average your point has validity, and shows that in NZ diesel vehicle owners are under-taxed relative to petrol. One of the political parties there has suggested significantly raising diesel taxes to correct the situation. - Original Message - From: Dennis Hipperson To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car Re: Fuel price in NZ. Current price of ULP in Auckland $1.59 Current price of diesel in Auckland $1.09 Consider a 1000Km trip with trailer. Fuel useage based on Cathrine Conways figures Petrol car 13lt 100Km = 130 lt = $206.7 Diesel vehicle 13lt 100Km = 130lt = $141.7 + $30 = $171.7 So Aus diesel is FULLY taxed and then some at source? Dennis ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Re "In New Zealand diesel fuel is considerably cheaper than petrol. The reason why is something of a mystery." On this side of the Tasman diesel fuel is fully taxed at source. In NZ this is not the case and operators of diesel fuelled vehicles (including cars, 4WDs etc) pay a separate road user charge. This is distance based and purchased in multiples of 1000km. For cars this is about $30 per 1000km I think. - Original Message - From: Terry Neumann To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car G'day Richard, Whatever you get - and there has been plenty of advice so far - look for a vehicle with sufficient weight (and this probably means size) to able to remain the dominant influence in the towing combination. I know of several road dramas with gliding trailers where the towing car had the horsepower - but not the weight - to allow the driver to be in totally charge of what was happening all of the time, and things went badly wrong when the trailer took over. There were probably other factors in the instances I recall, but the common question in those mentioned was a towing vehicle which on reflection, was probably on the smaller (lighter) side of what perhaps should have been used. The downward force on the hitch is a function of how the trailer is loaded. Most vehicles have a section in the manual about towing limitations and suggested weights for both the trailer itself, and the load at the coupling. All of these things are important in managing the stability and therefore the safety of the combination. An incorrectly loaded trailer appears to have been the major factor in one mishap with an otherwise reasonable combination of vehicle and glider trailer some years ago. Diesel engines are worth considering, especially in recent years. They provide plenty of lugging power for towing, and a turbocharger assists considerably in providing better performance and fuel economy. There is another worthwhile benefit in having a diesel vehicle. Unlike their modern petrol engine counterparts, diesel vehicles usually do not have a catalytic converter in the exhaust system.This means that as a general rule they are much less likely to start a fire when driven into standing stubble or long grass, a potentially useful feature when retrieving in the fire danger season. The obvious downside is that the fuel is more expensive and does not seem to be subject to discounting wars to the same degree as ULP. In New Zealand diesel fuel is considerably cheaper than petrol. The reason why is something of a mystery. As in most situations, the final choice of vehicle may well be something of a compromise. Regards, Terry -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
I don't know either but if the air:fuel ratio is correct on the LPG conversion then there should be significantly lower carbon monoxide and unburned hydrocarbon engine-out emissions. That would suggest that the oxidation catalyst should run cooler. - Original Message - From: "John Giddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car > Catalytic converters get hot from the exothermal reaction. Don't know > what happens with LPG conversion though. > John G. > > Richard Gynes wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks to all who replied on and off list. >> >> The budget for the family car is flexible - what does not go on the car >> goes >> towards the glider +/or caravan. Or more expensive car means enforced >> cheaper glider/syndicate. So it is probably a used vehicle in question. >> >> Do catalytic converters get hot when a car is converted to LPG and >> running >> on LPG? ie is the catalytic reaction exothermic? Or are they hot because >> of >> the exhaust gasses? >> >> Regards >> >> Richard >> >> On 9/9/07 11:25, "Terry Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> G'day Richard, >>> >>> Whatever you get - and there has been plenty of advice so far - look >>> for a >>> vehicle with sufficient weight (and this probably means size) to able to >>> remain the dominant influence in the towing combination. I know of >>> several >>> road dramas with gliding trailers where the towing car had the >>> horsepower - >>> but not the weight - to allow the driver to be in totally charge of what >>> was >>> happening all of the time, and things went badly wrong when the trailer >>> took >>> over.There were probably other factors in the instances I recall, >>> but the >>> common question in those mentioned was a towing vehicle which on >>> reflection, >>> was probably on the smaller (lighter) side of what perhaps should have >>> been >>> used. >>> >>> The downward force on the hitch is a function of how the trailer is >>> loaded. >>> Most vehicles have a section in the manual about towing limitations and >>> suggested weights for both the trailer itself, and the load at the >>> coupling. >>> All of these things are important in managing the stability and >>> therefore the >>> safety of the combination. An incorrectly loaded trailer appears to >>> have been >>> the major factor in one mishap with an otherwise reasonable combination >>> of >>> vehicle and glider trailer some years ago. >>> >>> Diesel engines are worth considering, especially in recent years. They >>> provide plenty of lugging power for towing, and a turbocharger assists >>> considerably in providing better performance and fuel economy. There is >>> another worthwhile benefit in having a diesel vehicle. Unlike their >>> modern >>> petrol engine counterparts, diesel vehicles usually do not have a >>> catalytic >>> converter in the exhaust system.This means that as a general rule >>> they are >>> much less likely to start a fire when driven into standing stubble or >>> long >>> grass, a potentially useful feature when retrieving in the fire danger >>> season. >>> The obvious downside is that the fuel is more expensive and does not >>> seem to >>> be subject to discounting wars to the same degree as ULP. In New >>> Zealand >>> diesel fuel is considerably cheaper than petrol. The reason why is >>> something >>> of a mystery. >>> >>> As in most situations, the final choice of vehicle may well be something >>> of a >>> compromise. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Terry >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Aus-soaring mailing list >>> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >>> To check or change subscription details, visit: >>> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> ___ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] OLC
Dining down under!! Makes you wonder what's on the menu! > Derek Ruddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What? Dining down under?? > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:aus-soaring- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Carter > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 7:13 AM > > To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] OLC > > > > NOTE to self, check yourself before you rant! > > > > Instructions for downloading logged flights are comprehensively > written > > on the GFA website here- > > > > http://www.dining-downunder.com/shop/index.php?main_page=contact_us > > > > and thanks to the sharp eyed fellow who pointed that out to me! > > > > Lets ensure each pilot has a copy at club level! > > > > > > Regards to all > > > > Wayne (now sober) Carter > > ___ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Slow dial-up or broadband- your choice
This is getting off topic so I'll keep it brief, but based on my own experience over the last three months with the Telstra NextG wireless broadband system I can't recommend the hourly based plans. On a total of four occasions the system has failed to detect that I have disconnected, and when that happens the clock keeps running until 2 hours of idle time have been clocked up! 3 of these incidents occurred in a single month, resulting in 6 or my 10 hours being confiscated that month. Several requests to Telstra to restore the lost time were ignored. Unfortunately Telstra changed their plans around the beginning of the year to eliminate the entry level data-based plan. Another point to be aware of is that the service is designed only for those with Administrator accounts on Windows. The Telstra connection manager program will not function unless you are logged on under an administrator account, which knocks out all those who work for large companies whose IT department don't give mere mortals admin rights on their company laptops. There is a work around for this, although Telstra won't tell you about it, and I can't rule out the possibility that this is related to the above disconnection problem. - Original Message - From: Ken Dawber To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Slow dial-up or broadband- your choice Peter Brookman wrote: I have just got off the phone to Activ8 support and they have confirmed that the subsidy scheme is still available for eligible subscribers, in broad terms anyone who can not access ADSL or ISDN. The Government's new Australian Broadband Guarantee subsidy is only available where commercial Terrestrial services are not available and Terrestrial services is defined to also include wireless services. With wireless networks such as the Bigpond Next G network already covering 98 per cent of the Australian Population, the part of Australia that is eligible for the current subsidy is getting smaller and smaller. . . . . ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachute repacking
> At a 1987 GFA seminar we had a very interesting talk by a parachute > rigger. He showed us that a chute will open quicker for the > first month or so after a repack and after that it stayed about the > same for a year Did he have any data on what happens after 12 months? - Original Message - From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Parachute repacking > At 06:12 PM 25/05/2007, you wrote: >>What do they do when they repack other than inspect for deterioration of >>the materials? >>Why is 6 months chosen as the interval? >>Anyone know? >>PeterS > > Because the canopy, rigging lines and pilot chute can move around > inside the pack with donning, removal and generall wearing of the chute. > > At a 1987 GFA seminar we had a very interesting talk by a parachute > rigger. He showed us that a chute will open quicker for the > first month or so after a repack and after that it stayed about the > same for a year. > > I'd say the people who came up with the 6 months know this and just > applied a conservative safety factor. > > Mike > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > Int'l + 61 429 355784 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > ___ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Pirat
I flew several hundred hours in a club owned Pirat, from 1975 to 83. There were two others based in the vicinity and I have a photo somewhere of the 3 of them lined up on the Upper Valley club Strip near Wellington NZ. I can likewise confirm that the Pirat will spin. A long time ago now but I think it had fairly benign characteristics, and standard recovery techniques resulted in a quick exit from the spin. Like its stable mates, the SZD Foka and Cobra, it was good for a reasonable range of aerobatic maneuvers. The Cobra was the pick of the 3 for aerobatics, but the Pirat wasn't too bad. Its repertoire included a maneuver called, I think, the snap half roll, but I only knew one club member brave enough to attempt it. It was strongly built (and fairly heavy, especially the center section!), and if I recall correctly it was rated for +6/-3.5g. Unfortunately one club member, around 1984, discovered the limits of its strength and didn't live to tell the tale. Shortly after release on a strong wave day it seems he got into cloud and lost control. The tow pilot descended down through the cloud gap until below cloud base at around 5000' and then headed back the field. He saw the fuselage of the Pirat minus wing emerge from the cloud heading vertically for the ground. Fragments of the wing fluttered to the ground for some time afterwards. The cause of the accident wasn't definitely determined, although the pilot had made no attempt to bail out and there was a suspicion of heart attack. He had suffered an early cardiac event which he failed to mention during his medical. The barograph trace showed the rapid descent had commenced at 7000' and a meaningful autopsy could not be performed. I remember my hours in the Pirat with much affection but I don't think I could describe it as delightful to fly. Its controls were not well harmonized and it had quite heavy ailerons. After a 5 ½ hour flight in wave one day my right arm was still feeling the effects 24 hours later! The Foka was nicer, but it was a big contrast after flying the Pirat to climb into a K6. In comparison that was delightful to fly. RKM - Original Message - From: Jarek Mosiejewski To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pirat Hi, It does spin. Among other duties, it's been used in Poland for basic aerobatic training - spin, loop, wingover... There is one in Bacchus Marsh (VH - XLS), owned by a syndicate of Geelong Gliding Club members. Regards Jarek - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pirat SZD 30 = Polish?? I rigged one and definitely a three person job. Didn't spin, not my club. GH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat http://toohardtodo.blogspot.com/2004/07/257-klix-official-practice-day_25.html A very upright seating position from memory, but was pretty comfortable. The Germans were a bit worried about spinning (for other reasons). I didn't spin it but did some mushy stall things. Not much different to any 60s wooden aircraft. They seemed to be inordinately popular in the old East Germany. The rigging was awkward (3 piece wing, you can see the kink in the wing in the photo where the join is), but overall an honest aeroplane. Sadly the photo is not so clear, the glider carries a shark face. SWK -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:02 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] Pirat I had an opportunity to fly a Pirat (SZD 30) around '94, at Wellington Club NZ. What a delightful glider it was. Just for the record the type first flew it '66. More details http://www.sailplanedirectory.com/PlaneDetails.cfm?PlaneID=350 BTW I think there may be one for sale at Central Queensland Club, last I heard it was a very good price. Grant Harper ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Looking for a glider - VH-GOK
Mispelling perhaps? Steve Where? - Original Message - From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Looking for a glider - VH-GOK Hi all I was at Boonah Sunday week ago (and immediately got collared about contact details for Steve Were). As far as I know, VH-GOK is a PIK-20B that was owned by a syndicate consisting of Martyn Roberts and Steve Were (both are ex-members of Adelaide Uni GC). Martyn has been in the UK for somewhat over a decade (or so) and there is no sign of him ever returning (he married a South African lass over there and has since had kids). Steve married Karen and they both moved to Brisbane for work reasons around Feb 2002. A quick search of www.whitepages.com.au gives as the only hit that matches: Were S & K 19 Gretna St Mansfield 4122 (07) 3219 2750 Other people have chased VH-GOK and I have given them the same answer (presumably to no avail or incorrect contact details?) Anthony Bergfalke IV VH-GZQ (no - you can't have it!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Newton Sent: Wednesday, 28 June 2006 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Looking for a glider... RF Developments Pty Ltd wrote: There is a Pik20B I think rotting away at Boonah in a trailer , out of CofA and I believe the owners are around somewhere but dumped it at the airfield , originally from S.A I think. Rob Izatt might know how to contact them , it would need a lot of work I guess to get it re registered but who knows , you can just ask. Sounds like it might be Steve Were's Pik, GOK. He went to Queensland five years ago and seemed to simultaneously give up gliding. I don't have contact details for him, but some of the other AUGC folks might. - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton - Voice: +61-4-1620-2223 - Fax: +61-8-82231777 - ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
