Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Ben, My Colibri is also due for an altimetry recalibration. Do,you want to send both together? Anyone else? Yours Peter Champness On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton blox...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben Ben Loxton Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Well you can always learn. 5 years instead of 2 is very sensible. I only do Cambridge and Clear Nav (was Winter once upon a time) mainly because with other brands people forget to send me instructions or leads and I waste too much time trying to work it out. Besides I have no interest. I have not charged juniors going to world's. over the years. I can do 2 (or maybe 3) units at a time as my chamber is very small. I can say the old (15 yes plus) Cambridge model 10s 20s do have a largish variations but the Cambridge 302 and Clear Nav MFD (vario awaits IGC approval right now) are extremely accurate and vary very little from year to year. Thus the 5 years is very sensible. Ian mcphee PS NEVER EVER use a EW lead with a CAMBRIDGE and not too sure about the other way around but may not be very healthy!! On 27/03/2014 5:06 PM, Plchampness plchampn...@gmail.com wrote: Ben, My Colibri is also due for an altimetry recalibration. Do,you want to send both together? Anyone else? Yours Peter Champness On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton blox...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Ben, Mark Fisher, Swift Avionics can do it. https://swiftavionics.com.au/ Erich On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton blox...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Erich, I asked Mark, they cant do the recalibration (yet). Cheers, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Erich Wittstock deepb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Ben, Mark Fisher, Swift Avionics can do it. https://swiftavionics.com.au/ Erich On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton blox...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
I believe that Mike Borgelt can do it. Also, any accredited instrument repair workshop (one that calibrates ASI or Altimeter). The manual gives calibration instructions for use by the place that does it. Cheers /Tim Shirley/ /tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/ On 27/03/2014 12:32, Ben Loxton wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Ben, We can do it for you. A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then we don't charge for shipping. If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for each subsequent. The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC schedule for the run up. The Colibri manual method does not comply. Regards Mike At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben Ben Loxton Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Ben and all, The current requirement for calibration is for 5 years prior to the flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a). Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a current calibration certificate must be provided. So the chart that came with the instrument will do, assuming you still have it. If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early model :) Cheers /Tim Shirley/ /tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/ On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote: Hi Ben, We can do it for you. A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then we don't charge for shipping. If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for each subsequent. The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC schedule for the run up. The Colibri manual method does not comply. Regards Mike At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben *Ben Loxton* Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring *Borgelt Instruments***- /design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 /www.borgeltinstruments.com http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/tel: 07 4635 5784overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Tim and all, My understanding re barograph calibration periods is as follows: The transition from the Sporting Code's long-standing 2-year calibration interval to the new 5-year interval took place on October 1 2013. The new rule applies only to electronic barographs, including those incorporated in all Flight Recorders and some Position Recorders. In a nutshell:- (1) any calibration done on or after 1 October 2011 (eg: current under the old rules) will be extended to its 5-year anniversary; and (2) a calibration done before 1 October 2011 means the 5-year interval applies to the NEXT calibration, done - at the latest - within 2 months after a badge or record flight. Regards, Geoff V At 01:47 PM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi Ben and all, The current requirement for calibration is for 5 years prior to the flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a). Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a current calibration certificate must be provided. So the chart that came with the instrument will do, assuming you still have it. If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early model :) Cheers Tim Shirley tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote: Hi Ben, We can do it for you. A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then we don't charge for shipping. If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for each subsequent. The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC schedule for the run up. The Colibri manual method does not comply. Regards Mike At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben Ben Loxton Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration
Hi Geoff, The Colibri II Approval document was issued on 25 Feb 2012. No Colibri II calibration can predate this so your point (1) applies to all of them. As a result the only situation where Ben's C II would need calibration is if he has lost his certificate. Cheers /Tim Shirley/ /tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare/ On 27/03/2014 15:33, Geoff Vincent wrote: Hi Tim and all, My understanding re barograph calibration periods is as follows: The transition from the Sporting Code's long-standing 2-year calibration interval to the new 5-year interval took place on October 1 2013. The new rule applies only to electronic barographs, including those incorporated in all Flight Recorders and some Position Recorders. In a nutshell:- (1) any calibration done on or after 1 October 2011 (eg: current under the old rules) will be extended to its 5-year anniversary; and (2) a calibration done before 1 October 2011 means the 5-year interval applies to the NEXT calibration, done - at the latest - within 2 months after a badge or record flight. Regards, Geoff V At 01:47 PM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi Ben and all, The current requirement for calibration is for 5 years prior to the flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a). Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a current calibration certificate must be provided. So the chart that came with the instrument will do, assuming you still have it. If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early model :) Cheers Tim Shirley tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote: Hi Ben, We can do it for you. A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then we don't charge for shipping. If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for each subsequent. The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC schedule for the run up. The Colibri manual method does not comply. Regards Mike At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote: Hi All, Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)? Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX? Thanks for any assistance Kind Regards, Ben Ben Loxton Melbourne, Australia +61 417 421 650 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
I have the same problem Jenny... I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto a microSD card I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works fine...turnpoints and task gets load correctly. I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri II...turnpoints load correctly. BUT ... I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri II...same msg...No Tasks Found ..did you find a solution? Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say. Cheers Brian Kranz -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny Ganderton Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
The task needs a name. On 16/12/2013 08:27, Brian Kranz wrote: I have the same problem Jenny... I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto a microSD card I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works fine...turnpoints and task gets load correctly. I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri II...turnpoints load correctly. BUT ... I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri II...same msg...No Tasks Found ..did you find a solution? Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say. Cheers Brian Kranz -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny Ganderton Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
Yep that did the trick - thanks Tim. -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 6:39 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II The task needs a name. On 16/12/2013 08:27, Brian Kranz wrote: I have the same problem Jenny... I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto a microSD card I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works fine...turnpoints and task gets load correctly. I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri II...turnpoints load correctly. BUT ... I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri II...same msg...No Tasks Found ..did you find a solution? Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say. Cheers Brian Kranz -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny Ganderton Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
Dear Jennie, Turn on your unit. When it starts click the multi switch to the right. Next after the vario page is GPS bad, No navigation for TP. One more move to the right. You get GPS BAD, No navigation for TSK. Click in the centre. Task edit page. Move up and down entering or deleting Start, turn points and finish. Click on each turn point and go down to zone, set A1 to 180 for a circle and R1 for the radius. A12 is Auto. I forget what the other things do but you can define a start line and a sector. C Click zone and go to view. You get a picture of what you have programmed as the zone. Yours Peter Champness On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Jenny Ganderton aviatrix726-soar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
Hi Jenny One of the traps I fell into was when you save a .cup file to the SD card is to make sure you Save As, as a straight Save converts the.cup to a text file which the collibri will not recognise. check the file on the SD card is really a .cup file. Chris Runeckles GCWA On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Jenny Ganderton aviatrix726-soar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
By moving two pages to the right of the main (vario) screen in the C II (Task Navigation), and pressing the button, you are able to directly enter a task into the instrument. By moving to the Setup page and selecting Logger, you can enter pilot and glider details. The task in a CUP file placed on the SD card will only be recognised if it is named. Untitled Document Cheers /Tim/ /tra dire e fare c'è mezzo il mare/ On 9/12/2013 21:51, Jenny Ganderton wrote: I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but it always says no tasks found. I am finding this a most frustrating piece of equipment to use. Help!! Thanks in anticipation! Jenny Ganderton ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring