Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Ian Mc Phee]

Well you can always learn. 5 years instead of 2 is very sensible.

I only do Cambridge and Clear Nav (was Winter once upon a time) mainly
because with other brands people forget to send me instructions or leads
and I waste too much time trying to work it out. Besides I have no
interest.  I have not charged juniors going to world's. over the years. I
can do 2 (or maybe 3) units at a time as my chamber is very small. I can
say the old (15 yes plus) Cambridge model 10s & 20s do have a largish
variations but the Cambridge 302 and Clear Nav MFD (vario awaits IGC
approval right now) are extremely accurate and vary very little from year
to year.

Thus the 5 years is very sensible.

Ian mcphee

PS NEVER EVER use a EW lead with a CAMBRIDGE and not too sure about the
other way around but may not be very healthy!!
 On 27/03/2014 5:06 PM, "Plchampness"  wrote:

> Ben,
>
> My Colibri is also due for an altimetry recalibration.  Do,you want to
> send both together?  Anyone else?
>
> Yours
> Peter Champness
>
> On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate
> (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
>
> Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to
> Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?
>
> Thanks for any assistance
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Plchampness]

Ben,

My Colibri is also due for an altimetry recalibration.  Do,you want to send 
both together?  Anyone else?

Yours
Peter Champness

On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton  wrote:

> Hi All,
>  
> Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate 
> (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
>  
> Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to 
> Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?
>  
> Thanks for any assistance
>  
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Tim Shirley]

Hi Geoff,

The Colibri II Approval document was issued on 25 Feb 2012.  No Colibri 
II calibration can predate this so your point (1) applies to all of them.


As a result the only situation where Ben's C II would need calibration 
is if he has lost his certificate.



Cheers

/Tim Shirley/

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On 27/03/2014 15:33, Geoff Vincent wrote:

Hi Tim and all,

My understanding re barograph calibration periods is as follows:

The transition from the Sporting Code's long-standing 2-year 
calibration interval to the new 5-year interval took place on October 
1 2013.


The new rule applies only to electronic barographs, including those 
incorporated in all Flight Recorders and some Position Recorders.  In 
a nutshell:-


(1) any calibration done on or after 1 October 2011 (eg: "current" 
under the old rules) will be extended to its 5-year anniversary; and


(2) a calibration done before 1 October 2011 means the 5-year interval 
applies to the NEXT calibration, done - at the latest - within 2 
months after a badge or record flight.


Regards,

Geoff V


At 01:47 PM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ben and all,

The current requirement for calibration is for 5 years prior to the 
flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a).


Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a current calibration 
certificate must be provided.  So the chart that came with the 
instrument will do, assuming you still have it.


If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early 
model :)


Cheers

Tim Shirley

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On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote:

Hi Ben,

We can do it for you.

A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and 
then we don't charge for shipping.


If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 
in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 
for each subsequent.


The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait 
bit of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific 
IGC schedule for the run up.


The Colibri manual method does not comply.

Regards

Mike



At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger 
recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)?


Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back 
to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?


Thanks for any assistance

Kind Regards,

Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Geoff Vincent]

Hi Tim and all,

My understanding re barograph calibration periods is as follows:

The transition from the Sporting Code's 
long-standing 2-year calibration interval to the 
new 5-year interval took place on October 1 2013.


The new rule applies only to electronic 
barographs, including those incorporated in all 
Flight Recorders and some Position Recorders.  In a nutshell:-


(1) any calibration done on or after 1 October 
2011 (eg: "current" under the old rules) will be 
extended to its 5-year anniversary; and


(2) a calibration done before 1 October 2011 
means the 5-year interval applies to the NEXT 
calibration, done - at the latest - within 2 
months after a badge or record flight.


Regards,

Geoff V


At 01:47 PM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi Ben and all,

The current requirement for calibration is for 5 
years prior to the flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a).


Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a 
current calibration certificate must be 
provided.  So the chart that came with the 
instrument will do, assuming you still have it.


If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early model :)

Cheers

Tim Shirley

tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare
On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote:

Hi Ben,

We can do it for you.

A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a 
return Express bag and then we don't charge for shipping.


If you can get more than one logger in the 
batch we can put up to 6 in the pressure 
chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for each subsequent.


The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is 
what takes a fait bit of time so more than one 
at a time is good. There is a specific IGC schedule for the run up.


The Colibri manual method does not comply.

Regards

Mike



At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a 
Colibri II logger recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)?


Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? 
does it have to go back to Europe? If it has 
to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?


Thanks for any assistance

Kind Regards,

Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Tim Shirley]

Hi Ben and all,

The current requirement for calibration is for 5 years prior to the 
flight in question (SC 3 Oct 2013 Para 4.4.4a).


Annex A (the World Comps Rules) says only that a current calibration 
certificate must be provided.  So the chart that came with the 
instrument will do, assuming you still have it.


If your Colibri II is older than 5 years it must be a fairly early model :)

Cheers

/Tim Shirley/

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On 27/03/2014 13:28, Mike Borgelt wrote:

Hi Ben,

We can do it for you.

A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then 
we don't charge for shipping.


If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 in 
the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 for 
each subsequent.


The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit 
of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC 
schedule for the run up.


The Colibri manual method does not comply.

Regards

Mike



At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger 
recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)?


Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back 
to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?


Thanks for any assistance

Kind Regards,

Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Mike Borgelt]

Hi Ben,

We can do it for you.

A$99 plus shipping. best if you include a return Express bag and then 
we don't charge for shipping.


If you can get more than one logger in the batch we can put up to 6 
in the pressure chamber and the price is A$99 for the first and A$66 
for each subsequent.


The pump down and stabilise at each pressure is what takes a fait bit 
of time so more than one at a time is good. There is a specific IGC 
schedule for the run up.


The Colibri manual method does not comply.

Regards

Mike



At 11:32 AM 27/03/2014, you wrote:

Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger 
recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)?


Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back 
to Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?


Thanks for any assistance

Kind Regards,

Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Tim Shirley]

I believe that Mike Borgelt can do it.

Also, any accredited instrument repair workshop (one that calibrates ASI 
or Altimeter).


The manual gives calibration instructions for use by the place that does it.

Cheers

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On 27/03/2014 12:32, Ben Loxton wrote:

Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger 
recalibrate (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to 
Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?

Thanks for any assistance
Kind Regards,
Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Erich Wittstock]

..failing that:
Andrej's email is:
lxupdateserv...@gmail.com
Andrej is very helpful!
Erich


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Erich Wittstock wrote:

> Hi Ben,
> Mark Fisher, Swift Avionics can do it.
> https://swiftavionics.com.au/
> Erich
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate
>> (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
>>
>> Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to
>> Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Ben Loxton]

Hi Erich,

I asked Mark, they cant do the recalibration (yet).

Cheers,

Ben

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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Erich Wittstock wrote:

> Hi Ben,
> Mark Fisher, Swift Avionics can do it.
> https://swiftavionics.com.au/
> Erich
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate
>> (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
>>
>> Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to
>> Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II re-calibration

[Erich Wittstock]

Hi Ben,
Mark Fisher, Swift Avionics can do it.
https://swiftavionics.com.au/
Erich


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Ben Loxton  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering if anyone knows how to get a Colibri II logger recalibrate
> (for use in claims and world comp flying)?
>
> Is there anyone in Australia who can do it? does it have to go back to
> Europe? If it has to go to Europe does anyone have a contact at LX?
>
> Thanks for any assistance
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ben
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Brian Kranz]

Yep that did the trick - thanks Tim.

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

The task needs a name.


On 16/12/2013 08:27, Brian Kranz wrote:
> I have the same problem Jenny...
>
> I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto 
> a microSD card I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works 
> fine...turnpoints and task gets load correctly.
> I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri 
> II...turnpoints load correctly.
> BUT ...
> I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri 
> II...same msg..."No Tasks Found"
>
> ..did you find a solution?
>
> Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say.
>
> Cheers
> Brian Kranz
>
> -Original Message-
> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net
> [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny 
> Ganderton
> Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM
> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II
>
> I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you 
> declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks
>
> The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card 
> - but it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most 
> frustrating piece of equipment to use.
>
> Help!!
>
> Thanks in anticipation!
>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Tim Shirley]

The task needs a name.


On 16/12/2013 08:27, Brian Kranz wrote:

I have the same problem Jenny...

I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto a
microSD card
I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works fine...turnpoints and
task gets load correctly.
I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri
II...turnpoints load correctly.
BUT ...
I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri II...same
msg..."No Tasks Found"

..did you find a solution?

Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say.

Cheers
Brian Kranz

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny
Ganderton
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare
a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks

The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but
it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most frustrating piece
of equipment to use.

Help!!

Thanks in anticipation!

Jenny Ganderton
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Brian Kranz]

I have the same problem Jenny...

I save a waypoint/task file in .cup format from SeeYou (desktop) onto a
microSD card
I then load that .cup file into the oudie and it works fine...turnpoints and
task gets load correctly.
I then load the turnpoints from that .cup file into the Colibri
II...turnpoints load correctly.
BUT ... 
I cannot load the task from that same .cup file into the Colibri II...same
msg..."No Tasks Found"

..did you find a solution?

Maybe its a bug...I'll email LX and see what they say.

Cheers
Brian Kranz

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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Jenny
Ganderton
Sent: Monday, 9 December 2013 9:51 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare
a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks

The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but
it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most frustrating piece
of equipment to use.

Help!!

Thanks in anticipation!

Jenny Ganderton
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Plchampness]

Dear Jennie,

Turn on your unit. When it starts click the multi switch to the right. 
Next after the vario page is GPS bad, No navigation for TP.
One more move to the right.  You get GPS BAD, No navigation for TSK.  Click in 
the centre.
Task edit page.  Move up and down entering or deleting Start, turn points and 
finish.
Click on each turn point and go down to zone,  set A1 to 180 for a circle and 
R1 for the radius.  A12 is Auto.  I forget what the other things do but you can 
define a start line and a sector.
C
Click zone and go to view.  You get a picture of what you have programmed as 
the zone.

Yours
Peter Champness

On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Jenny Ganderton  
wrote:

> I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you declare 
> a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks
> 
> The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card - but 
> it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most frustrating piece 
> of equipment to use.
> 
> Help!!
> 
> Thanks in anticipation!
> 
> Jenny Ganderton
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Tim Shirley]

By moving two pages to the right of the main (vario) screen in the C II 
(Task Navigation), and pressing the button, you are able to directly 
enter a task into the instrument.


By moving to the Setup page and selecting Logger, you can enter pilot 
and glider details.


The task in a CUP file placed on the SD card will only be recognised if 
it is named.

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Cheers


 /Tim/

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On 9/12/2013 21:51, Jenny Ganderton wrote:
I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you 
declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks


The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card 
- but it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most 
frustrating piece of equipment to use.


Help!!

Thanks in anticipation!

Jenny Ganderton
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Colibri II

[Chris Runeckles]

Hi Jenny

One of the traps I fell into was when you save a  .cup file to the SD card
is to make sure you "Save As", as a straight "Save" converts the.cup to a
text file which the collibri will not recognise. check the file on the SD
card is really a .cup file.

Chris Runeckles
GCWA


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Jenny Ganderton <
aviatrix726-soar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I have a Colibri II FAI approved logger. Can anybody tell me how you
> declare a task in it? I can get turnpoints into it but not tasks
>
> The instructions say to copy a .cup file from SeeYou onto the SD card -
> but it always says "no tasks found". I am finding this a most frustrating
> piece of equipment to use.
>
> Help!!
>
> Thanks in anticipation!
>
> Jenny Ganderton
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