Re: Scrollbar width?
W dniu 26 marca 2012 23:27 użytkownik Vladimir Todorov napisał: > But for now it seems > that gnome-color-chooser is my best solution (yes the name is misleading but > there is an option to change the width of the scrollbar there). Ah, so I guess that it simply modifies the selected parameters of GTK theme that is initially selected. Clever one :) Paweł -- To unsubscribe, send mail to awesome-unsubscr...@naquadah.org.
Re: Scrollbar width?
Oh, no, I didn't feel underrated at all. I am just objective about myself. What I do not know, I do not know ;) I am just not well familiar with these things - that's why I decided to ask - and at the end I solved my problem and I learned something new so thanks a lot ; ) I will try to find out how to change the width of the scrollbar for other applications and I will write back if I find something. But for now it seems that gnome-color-chooser is my best solution (yes the name is misleading but there is an option to change the width of the scrollbar there). Thanks, Vladimir On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Paweł Rumian wrote: > W dniu 26 marca 2012 23:05 użytkownik Vladimir Todorov > napisał: > > Hi, > > > > Oh, I guess that this was just a noobish question then... ; ) > > Actually I make difference between a DE and a WM but I don't know why I > > decided that the WM takes responsibility of drawing the scrollbar... > > Thank you very much for clarifying this to me. > > Ah, so sorry if you felt underrated :) I am rarely so verbose, but I > felt a kind of inspiration when writing this particular answer ;) > > As for checking the toolkit used - I'd either try to google or look at > the libraries the application is linked to (probably even looking at > the package manager dependencies would be enough). > > HTH, > Paweł >
Re: Scrollbar width?
W dniu 26 marca 2012 23:05 użytkownik Vladimir Todorov napisał: > Hi, > > Oh, I guess that this was just a noobish question then... ; ) > Actually I make difference between a DE and a WM but I don't know why I > decided that the WM takes responsibility of drawing the scrollbar... > Thank you very much for clarifying this to me. Ah, so sorry if you felt underrated :) I am rarely so verbose, but I felt a kind of inspiration when writing this particular answer ;) As for checking the toolkit used - I'd either try to google or look at the libraries the application is linked to (probably even looking at the package manager dependencies would be enough). HTH, Paweł -- To unsubscribe, send mail to awesome-unsubscr...@naquadah.org.
Re: Scrollbar width?
Hi, Oh, I guess that this was just a noobish question then... ; ) Actually I make difference between a DE and a WM but I don't know why I decided that the WM takes responsibility of drawing the scrollbar... Thank you very much for clarifying this to me. I tried to change the width of the scrollbars with gnome-color-chooser though a minute ago and it did the trick - actually as you suggested it changed the width of the scrollbars only for some applications - it works for eclipse and mozilla ff but it doesn't work for chrome ; ). Actually eclipse was my primary goal because I work on my 14'' laptop now and I really hated the big scrollbars in eclipse - they take so much space that I cannot see the code. Besides eclipse takes whole lot of space with useless splitters etc.. But now it is better with smaller scrollbars especially in debug mode (it is fine when I am not in debug mode because I do not need the stack trace and the watch window neither the package explorer so I keep only the Editor window opened and maximized). Now another thing that comes to my mind is how can I find out which toolkit an application is using. I changed the scrollbars of one toolkit but which one? I know that some applications can draw their own scrollbars but if this is not the case I would like to change it where possible. Thanks once again, your response was very helpful. Regards, Vladimir On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Paweł Rumian wrote: > W dniu 26 marca 2012 20:44 użytkownik Vladimir Todorov > napisał: > > Anyone knows how I can change the width of the scrollbars? I searched the > > rc.lua file and the theme.lua file but I didn't find anything. I also > tried > > google again without success. > > I want to decrease the width. I use gnome at the office and I do this > with a > > program called gnome-color-chooser - but I guess it is gnome specific. I > am > > pretty sure I could do it in awesome too but I don't know how - I am new > to > > this wm, anyway it is awesome ; ) > > Hello Vladimir, > > I am not sure if I have understood you correctly, but as awesome > itself does not use > scrollbars anywhere, then I suspect that you are talking about scrollbars > in > applications, yes? > > If this assumption is correct, then you should know that the look of > an application is > not influenced by window manager (which - as the name suggests - just > manages > windows :)). > > Going further - the look of an application can take source in many places. > There are applications that have own options to configure themselves > (rxvt-unicode > comes to my mind immediately as an example). > There are also applications that inherit their look from the widget > toolkit they use. > Two probably most known ones are GTK+ and QT. > > Now we can take GTK+ as an example. There are many applications that use > this > toolkit - as I look to my currently opened programs I can see > claws-mail, gimp and > geeqie - they are all GTK+ apps. > The look of all these applications depend of currently used GTK theme. > A theme is > a set of files that define or example color, icons and - what you are > looking for - the > width of a scrollbar. > > So, going back to your case - albeit you cannot set the width of a > scrollbar directly, > you can set a theme used by all GTK+ applications - and you can choose a > theme > which has thin scrollbars if you like them. > > A nice theme switcher that I use is gtk-chtheme. You can use another > one, just search > for GTK theme chooser. > > Still keep in mind, that applications that do not use GTK+ toolkit > will look differently. > You will need to choose a theme for QT applications separately, and so on. > > The reason why you have to use external program do to such things comes > from a > fundamental difference between window manager and desktop environment. > > Gnome, which you use at work, is a desktop environment - something > bigger than a > window manager. It incorporates window manager, but also provides many > other tools > like system monitor, battery widget and many others - among them is a > theme switcher. > It also probably has many themes preinstalled. > > awesome is a window manager - a rich one, because it provides some > functionality > of DE (like clock, systray, or some monitoring widgets) - but > basically it just manages > windows, so you need to install separate programs to do other things you > like. > It also does not provide any themes by default, so you would probably > need to install > them before you will be able to choose one :) > > I hope that the thing is clear enough now :) > > best regards, > Paweł >
Re: Scrollbar width?
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Re: Scrollbar width?
W dniu 26 marca 2012 20:44 użytkownik Vladimir Todorov napisał: > Anyone knows how I can change the width of the scrollbars? I searched the > rc.lua file and the theme.lua file but I didn't find anything. I also tried > google again without success. > I want to decrease the width. I use gnome at the office and I do this with a > program called gnome-color-chooser - but I guess it is gnome specific. I am > pretty sure I could do it in awesome too but I don't know how - I am new to > this wm, anyway it is awesome ; ) Hello Vladimir, I am not sure if I have understood you correctly, but as awesome itself does not use scrollbars anywhere, then I suspect that you are talking about scrollbars in applications, yes? If this assumption is correct, then you should know that the look of an application is not influenced by window manager (which - as the name suggests - just manages windows :)). Going further - the look of an application can take source in many places. There are applications that have own options to configure themselves (rxvt-unicode comes to my mind immediately as an example). There are also applications that inherit their look from the widget toolkit they use. Two probably most known ones are GTK+ and QT. Now we can take GTK+ as an example. There are many applications that use this toolkit - as I look to my currently opened programs I can see claws-mail, gimp and geeqie - they are all GTK+ apps. The look of all these applications depend of currently used GTK theme. A theme is a set of files that define or example color, icons and - what you are looking for - the width of a scrollbar. So, going back to your case - albeit you cannot set the width of a scrollbar directly, you can set a theme used by all GTK+ applications - and you can choose a theme which has thin scrollbars if you like them. A nice theme switcher that I use is gtk-chtheme. You can use another one, just search for GTK theme chooser. Still keep in mind, that applications that do not use GTK+ toolkit will look differently. You will need to choose a theme for QT applications separately, and so on. The reason why you have to use external program do to such things comes from a fundamental difference between window manager and desktop environment. Gnome, which you use at work, is a desktop environment - something bigger than a window manager. It incorporates window manager, but also provides many other tools like system monitor, battery widget and many others - among them is a theme switcher. It also probably has many themes preinstalled. awesome is a window manager - a rich one, because it provides some functionality of DE (like clock, systray, or some monitoring widgets) - but basically it just manages windows, so you need to install separate programs to do other things you like. It also does not provide any themes by default, so you would probably need to install them before you will be able to choose one :) I hope that the thing is clear enough now :) best regards, Paweł -- To unsubscribe, send mail to awesome-unsubscr...@naquadah.org.
Scrollbar width?
Hi all, Anyone knows how I can change the width of the scrollbars? I searched the rc.lua file and the theme.lua file but I didn't find anything. I also tried google again without success. I want to decrease the width. I use gnome at the office and I do this with a program called gnome-color-chooser - but I guess it is gnome specific. I am pretty sure I could do it in awesome too but I don't know how - I am new to this wm, anyway it is awesome ; ) Regards, Vladimir
