Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-07-12 Thread Warren Crossing
Just had a major issue when using both ws sessions and authentication 
with jboss as.  The first call on a session worked, but the second 
method came from the ws on another thread so the jboss 
securityassociation was lost.  I have hacked a simple solution into 
EJBProvider which looks up the home again (or just do a IC.rebind and 
cause reauthentication) and creates a securityassociation local on the 
current thread.  The second call works from there.


Warren Crossing wrote:
I use axis1-4 for ws based auth and session management, this ties 
directly into my sessionbean using the providers and handlers from axis1-4.


If the context has a session then it talks to the same session bean 
serviceobject.  If the context has credentials then they are passed into 
jni to look up the ejb service object.


What I hope get from this architecture is container based transaction 
and security support without exposing transactions or neccessarily 
security through the wsdl. I could add another handler to map security 
etc..


I noticed when the session is reaped on timeout that remove() is not 
called on the session bean.  I might clone EJBProvider and implement 
ServiceLifecycle so I can call remove() on the destroy() event.


So why go to this effort in architecture to essentially pass the buck to 
the next component? I am essentially exposing a call-control sip stack 
through the ws. I have no place to do any core logic, or event routing, 
in the ws layer or in the stack as they both maintain session state and 
transactions in completley different ways, ie cookies and dialogs.


What I really want is a transactional context to say detect the call 
has ended ! debit close the session and modify some database state, 
handle failure case, make endpoint callbacks etc which I can't get from 
the sip stack (aka black box) and don't trust the web server to do 
(reliably).


Another reason is I automagically get pooling of service objects. Sure I 
have to authenticate twice a session, once in the ws and once in jni - 
ejb, but I don't have to worry about dos and cross host usage.  I don't 
really need session failover but that's another point for the ejb 
container (if supported).


I also get ejb timers facility and concurrency and synchronization. So I 
think its a win for coupling the two architectures togeather.


IMHO WS is not an application framework it's just another 
remoting/messaging technology primarily for .NET and monkey JEE interop. 
Otherwise why not just use IIOP? It's much faster! =)


Interested in your feedback.



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Hi, axis 1  2 work in a J2EE environment

Michel Lequim

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I was just wondering, why neither AXIS, nor AXIS2 do support J2EE - is

this correct?
JBoss e.g. has this feature.

Is this information correct?

thanks,



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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-28 Thread Warren Crossing
I use axis1-4 for ws based auth and session management, this ties 
directly into my sessionbean using the providers and handlers from axis1-4.


If the context has a session then it talks to the same session bean 
serviceobject.  If the context has credentials then they are passed into 
jni to look up the ejb service object.


What I hope get from this architecture is container based transaction 
and security support without exposing transactions or neccessarily 
security through the wsdl. I could add another handler to map security etc..


I noticed when the session is reaped on timeout that remove() is not 
called on the session bean.  I might clone EJBProvider and implement 
ServiceLifecycle so I can call remove() on the destroy() event.


So why go to this effort in architecture to essentially pass the buck to 
the next component? I am essentially exposing a call-control sip stack 
through the ws. I have no place to do any core logic, or event routing, 
in the ws layer or in the stack as they both maintain session state and 
transactions in completley different ways, ie cookies and dialogs.


What I really want is a transactional context to say detect the call 
has ended ! debit close the session and modify some database state, 
handle failure case, make endpoint callbacks etc which I can't get from 
the sip stack (aka black box) and don't trust the web server to do 
(reliably).


Another reason is I automagically get pooling of service objects. Sure I 
have to authenticate twice a session, once in the ws and once in jni - 
ejb, but I don't have to worry about dos and cross host usage.  I don't 
really need session failover but that's another point for the ejb 
container (if supported).


I also get ejb timers facility and concurrency and synchronization. So I 
think its a win for coupling the two architectures togeather.


IMHO WS is not an application framework it's just another 
remoting/messaging technology primarily for .NET and monkey JEE interop. 
Otherwise why not just use IIOP? It's much faster! =)


Interested in your feedback.



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Hi, axis 1  2 work in a J2EE environment 



Michel Lequim

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I was just wondering, why neither AXIS, nor AXIS2 do support J2EE - is

this correct?
JBoss e.g. has this feature.

Is this information correct?

thanks,



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RE: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown sender

2006-06-20 Thread Dhakshinamoorthy, Hariharasudhan
Dennis Sosnoski ,

Why do you want to expose ejb's as webservices directly ?not all methods in
ejb has to be exposed as webservices operations right.In this case it better
to right wrappers to the ejb methods and expose that wrappers class  as
webservice.
Do you have any advantages exposing ejb to as webservices - was wondering
why weblogic , jboss has such an option.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:38 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown
sender


I think there are really two different approaches possible for handling 
EJB web services. The first is what I think you're focused on, 
automatic exposure of EJBs as web services using annotations or the 
like. AFAIKS, this really needs to be implemented by the app server 
framework because that controls both the class loading (you need hooks 
into the class loading to see the annotations in the first place) and 
the EJB deployment.

The second is what I was suggesting, which is to have the service 
implementation basically function as a proxy to the actual EJB. This 
means that the service implementation is just another client of the 
service as far as the app server is concerned. The actual proxy code 
could be generated by an Axis2 add-on. If you run Axis2 inside the app 
server, the overhead of accessing the EJB in this way will be minimal; 
if you run it outside the app server you'll have more overhead (as with 
any EJB client), but you'll gain the flexibility of keeping your web 
services support on a standard servlet engine rather than an app server.

Both these approaches work, but the first one (which includes JSR-109 
support) can really only be implemented by the people running the app 
server. JAX-WS doesn't require an app server so can be integrated 
directly into Axis2 - but AFAIK it doesn't give you automatic EJB support.

  - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
SOA, Web Services, and XML
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-296-6194 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117



robert lazarski wrote:
 Well, so far in the developement of axis2 best as I can tell, for good
 reasons, there has not been a pragmatic discussion of Axis2 and pure
 EJB services, ie, a ServiceClass implementing SessionBean.

 I'd like to think what I was trying to imply was that currently (A) no
 one has a working case and documentation supporting it, (B) there is a
 corner case demand for it, and (C) I have an itch to scatch to support
 clients who simply want it.

 So far Axis2 has no 'code generator to create these proxy classes' .
 So how do we get there? Perhaps with JSR-109 -  the 109 specification
 now also supports JAX-WS which is a follow-on specification to
 JAX-RPC - and the JAX-WS support in Axis2 recently, maybe that's the
 way to go.

 Comments?
 Robert
 http://www.braziloutsource.com/


 On 6/18/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] classesosnoski.com wrote:
 Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as
 web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB
 just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and
 forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy to just
 write a code generator to create these proxy classes. Even without
 automatic proxy generation it seems extreme to say that Axis2 is not an
 option, though.

   - Dennis

 robert lazarski wrote:
 
 
  On 6/16/06, *Dennis Sosnoski* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  robert lazarski wrote:
   snip
   Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully 
 as any
   tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very
  close
   to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
   required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an 
 option.
  
  
  I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an 
 option? You
  just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as
  any
  other application using the EJBs.
 
- Dennis
 
 
 
 
  I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an
  example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a
  strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports:
 
  enterprise-beans
session
  ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
  ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
  session-typeStateless/session-type
  ejb-ref
  !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
  ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
  ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
  homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
  remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
  /ejb-ref
  ...
 session
   /enterprise-beans
 
  import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
  import javax.ejb.SessionContext;
 
  public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {
 
  private SessionContext ctx

Re: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown sender

2006-06-20 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
I'm not actually the one concerned with exposing EJBs as web services. I 
agree that the proxy or wrapper class approach is the best way to 
approach the problem, though.


 - Dennis

Dhakshinamoorthy, Hariharasudhan wrote:

Dennis Sosnoski ,

Why do you want to expose ejb's as webservices directly ?not all methods in
ejb has to be exposed as webservices operations right.In this case it better
to right wrappers to the ejb methods and expose that wrappers class  as
webservice.
Do you have any advantages exposing ejb to as webservices - was wondering
why weblogic , jboss has such an option.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:38 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown
sender


I think there are really two different approaches possible for handling 
EJB web services. The first is what I think you're focused on, 
automatic exposure of EJBs as web services using annotations or the 
like. AFAIKS, this really needs to be implemented by the app server 
framework because that controls both the class loading (you need hooks 
into the class loading to see the annotations in the first place) and 
the EJB deployment.


The second is what I was suggesting, which is to have the service 
implementation basically function as a proxy to the actual EJB. This 
means that the service implementation is just another client of the 
service as far as the app server is concerned. The actual proxy code 
could be generated by an Axis2 add-on. If you run Axis2 inside the app 
server, the overhead of accessing the EJB in this way will be minimal; 
if you run it outside the app server you'll have more overhead (as with 
any EJB client), but you'll gain the flexibility of keeping your web 
services support on a standard servlet engine rather than an app server.


Both these approaches work, but the first one (which includes JSR-109 
support) can really only be implemented by the people running the app 
server. JAX-WS doesn't require an app server so can be integrated 
directly into Axis2 - but AFAIK it doesn't give you automatic EJB support.


  - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
SOA, Web Services, and XML
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-296-6194 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117



robert lazarski wrote:
  

Well, so far in the developement of axis2 best as I can tell, for good
reasons, there has not been a pragmatic discussion of Axis2 and pure
EJB services, ie, a ServiceClass implementing SessionBean.

I'd like to think what I was trying to imply was that currently (A) no
one has a working case and documentation supporting it, (B) there is a
corner case demand for it, and (C) I have an itch to scatch to support
clients who simply want it.

So far Axis2 has no 'code generator to create these proxy classes' .
So how do we get there? Perhaps with JSR-109 -  the 109 specification
now also supports JAX-WS which is a follow-on specification to
JAX-RPC - and the JAX-WS support in Axis2 recently, maybe that's the
way to go.

Comments?
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


On 6/18/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] classesosnoski.com wrote:


Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as
web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB
just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and
forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy to just
write a code generator to create these proxy classes. Even without
automatic proxy generation it seems extreme to say that Axis2 is not an
option, though.

  - Dennis

robert lazarski wrote:
  

On 6/16/06, *Dennis Sosnoski* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

robert lazarski wrote:
 snip
 Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully 


as any
  

 tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very
close
 to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
 required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an 


option.
  



I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an 


option? You
  

just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as
any
other application using the EJBs.

  - Dennis




I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an
example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a
strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports:

enterprise-beans
  session
ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
session-typeStateless/session-type
ejb-ref
!-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
/ejb-ref

Re: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown sender

2006-06-20 Thread Rodrigo Ruiz

Exposing an EJB as a web service can have several advantages:

- Less classes: exposure as a web service can be achieved by other 
methods than specific proxy classes, and this may lead to a smaller 
footprint.


- Better integration with app server authentication and other 
mechanisms. You have to manually apply the correct handlers to add 
security, addressing, policy, transactions, etc, and program what to do 
on errors in each of these layers. An app server can automatically apply 
them when/where needed.


- The flexibility of being able to put your web service proxies in a 
simpler servlet engine is often not a desired feature. In many cases it 
will be preferable to add a node to the app server cluster than 
wasting a machine with a servlet engine, that after all will also need 
to be replicated in order to maintain the same service level than EJBs 
have. Separating the proxies to a different machine adds costs in 
hardware and maintenance, and introduces additional connectivity errors. 
Having them in the same app server than EJBs removes these costs.


- It gives you a reasonably easy way to access a J2EE server through 
firewalls that only allows HTTP/S connections, without having to spend 
time in an alternative interface.


If you say this is not the right approach in the long term, I agree with 
you. I think web services are more effectively used when they are built 
from the ground, taking into account their specific characteristics. But 
if your EJBs already publish a reasonable API, this allows you to extend 
your J2EE services to other languages (almost) without extra effort/cost.


Hope this helps,
Rodrigo Ruiz

Dhakshinamoorthy, Hariharasudhan wrote:

Dennis Sosnoski ,

Why do you want to expose ejb's as webservices directly ?not all methods in
ejb has to be exposed as webservices operations right.In this case it better
to right wrappers to the ejb methods and expose that wrappers class  as
webservice.
Do you have any advantages exposing ejb to as webservices - was wondering
why weblogic , jboss has such an option.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Sosnoski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:38 AM
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support - Message is from an unknown
sender


I think there are really two different approaches possible for handling 
EJB web services. The first is what I think you're focused on, 
automatic exposure of EJBs as web services using annotations or the 
like. AFAIKS, this really needs to be implemented by the app server 
framework because that controls both the class loading (you need hooks 
into the class loading to see the annotations in the first place) and 
the EJB deployment.


The second is what I was suggesting, which is to have the service 
implementation basically function as a proxy to the actual EJB. This 
means that the service implementation is just another client of the 
service as far as the app server is concerned. The actual proxy code 
could be generated by an Axis2 add-on. If you run Axis2 inside the app 
server, the overhead of accessing the EJB in this way will be minimal; 
if you run it outside the app server you'll have more overhead (as with 
any EJB client), but you'll gain the flexibility of keeping your web 
services support on a standard servlet engine rather than an app server.


Both these approaches work, but the first one (which includes JSR-109 
support) can really only be implemented by the people running the app 
server. JAX-WS doesn't require an app server so can be integrated 
directly into Axis2 - but AFAIK it doesn't give you automatic EJB support.


  - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
SOA, Web Services, and XML
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-296-6194 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117



robert lazarski wrote:

Well, so far in the developement of axis2 best as I can tell, for good
reasons, there has not been a pragmatic discussion of Axis2 and pure
EJB services, ie, a ServiceClass implementing SessionBean.

I'd like to think what I was trying to imply was that currently (A) no
one has a working case and documentation supporting it, (B) there is a
corner case demand for it, and (C) I have an itch to scatch to support
clients who simply want it.

So far Axis2 has no 'code generator to create these proxy classes' .
So how do we get there? Perhaps with JSR-109 -  the 109 specification
now also supports JAX-WS which is a follow-on specification to
JAX-RPC - and the JAX-WS support in Axis2 recently, maybe that's the
way to go.

Comments?
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


On 6/18/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] classesosnoski.com wrote:

Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as
web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB
just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and
forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy

Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
I think there are really two different approaches possible for handling 
EJB web services. The first is what I think you're focused on, 
automatic exposure of EJBs as web services using annotations or the 
like. AFAIKS, this really needs to be implemented by the app server 
framework because that controls both the class loading (you need hooks 
into the class loading to see the annotations in the first place) and 
the EJB deployment.


The second is what I was suggesting, which is to have the service 
implementation basically function as a proxy to the actual EJB. This 
means that the service implementation is just another client of the 
service as far as the app server is concerned. The actual proxy code 
could be generated by an Axis2 add-on. If you run Axis2 inside the app 
server, the overhead of accessing the EJB in this way will be minimal; 
if you run it outside the app server you'll have more overhead (as with 
any EJB client), but you'll gain the flexibility of keeping your web 
services support on a standard servlet engine rather than an app server.


Both these approaches work, but the first one (which includes JSR-109 
support) can really only be implemented by the people running the app 
server. JAX-WS doesn't require an app server so can be integrated 
directly into Axis2 - but AFAIK it doesn't give you automatic EJB support.


 - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
SOA, Web Services, and XML
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-296-6194 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117



robert lazarski wrote:

Well, so far in the developement of axis2 best as I can tell, for good
reasons, there has not been a pragmatic discussion of Axis2 and pure
EJB services, ie, a ServiceClass implementing SessionBean.

I'd like to think what I was trying to imply was that currently (A) no
one has a working case and documentation supporting it, (B) there is a
corner case demand for it, and (C) I have an itch to scatch to support
clients who simply want it.

So far Axis2 has no 'code generator to create these proxy classes' .
So how do we get there? Perhaps with JSR-109 -  the 109 specification
now also supports JAX-WS which is a follow-on specification to
JAX-RPC - and the JAX-WS support in Axis2 recently, maybe that's the
way to go.

Comments?
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


On 6/18/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] classesosnoski.com wrote:

Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as
web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB
just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and
forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy to just
write a code generator to create these proxy classes. Even without
automatic proxy generation it seems extreme to say that Axis2 is not an
option, though.

  - Dennis

robert lazarski wrote:


 On 6/16/06, *Dennis Sosnoski* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 robert lazarski wrote:
  snip
  Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully 
as any

  tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very
 close
  to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
  required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an 
option.

 
 
 I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an 
option? You

 just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as
 any
 other application using the EJBs.

   - Dennis




 I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an
 example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a
 strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports:

 enterprise-beans
   session
 ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
 ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
 session-typeStateless/session-type
 ejb-ref
 !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
 ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
 ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
 homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
 remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
 /ejb-ref
 ...
session
  /enterprise-beans

 import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
 import javax.ejb.SessionContext;

 public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

 private SessionContext ctx;

 public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(
 String user_name,
 String user_password) throws RemoteException {

 Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 String soap_session_id  = null;
 Connection con = null;

 try {
con = getConnection();
successErrorCode = 
CallCentreDAO.login(con,orner

 call_centre_id,
  user_name, user_password, this);

if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == 
successErrorCode) {

  SoapSession 

Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-18 Thread robert lazarski

Well, so far in the developement of axis2 best as I can tell, for good
reasons, there has not been a pragmatic discussion of Axis2 and pure
EJB services, ie, a ServiceClass implementing SessionBean.

I'd like to think what I was trying to imply was that currently (A) no
one has a working case and documentation supporting it, (B) there is a
corner case demand for it, and (C) I have an itch to scatch to support
clients who simply want it.

So far Axis2 has no 'code generator to create these proxy classes' .
So how do we get there? Perhaps with JSR-109 -  the 109 specification
now also supports JAX-WS which is a follow-on specification to
JAX-RPC - and the JAX-WS support in Axis2 recently, maybe that's the
way to go.

Comments?
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


On 6/18/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] classesosnoski.com wrote:

Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as
web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB
just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and
forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy to just
write a code generator to create these proxy classes. Even without
automatic proxy generation it seems extreme to say that Axis2 is not an
option, though.

  - Dennis

robert lazarski wrote:


 On 6/16/06, *Dennis Sosnoski* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 robert lazarski wrote:
  snip
  Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any
  tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very
 close
  to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
  required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.
 
 
 I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? You
 just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as
 any
 other application using the EJBs.

   - Dennis




 I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an
 example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a
 strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports:

 enterprise-beans
   session
 ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
 ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
 session-typeStateless/session-type
 ejb-ref
 !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
 ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
 ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
 homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
 remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
 /ejb-ref
 ...
session
  /enterprise-beans

 import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
 import javax.ejb.SessionContext;

 public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

 private SessionContext ctx;

 public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(
 String user_name,
 String user_password) throws RemoteException {

 Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 String soap_session_id  = null;
 Connection con = null;

 try {
con = getConnection();
successErrorCode = CallCentreDAO.login(con,orner
 call_centre_id,
  user_name, user_password, this);

if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == successErrorCode) {
  SoapSession soapSession =
 serviceLocator.getSoapSessionHome().create();
  soapSession.setTimestamp(
 Calendar.getInstance() );
  soap_session_id =
 serviceLocator.getSoapSession_Id(soapSession);

} else {
  successErrorCode =
 Messages_Codes.AuthorizationFailed;
}
 } catch(Exception ex) {
 ctx.setRollbackOnly();
 successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 } finally {
 if(con!=null)
 try{con.close();}catch(SQLException ex){};
 }

 return new ReturnWeb_Login (
 Messages_Codes.get(successErrorCode), successErrorCode.intValue(),
 soap_session_id, user_name);
 }

 So what this does is allow EJB transactions in a web service - notice
 ctx.setRollbackOnly() ,  and a soap session managed by the EJB
 container via a stateful session bean.

 OK, so why can you _not_ do this with Axis2 ?

 1) JBoss modified axis 1.x to support ejb transactions:

 http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

 JBossWS4EE http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWS4EE is
 J2EE-1.4 compliant and available starting from jboss-4.0.0. It relies
 on a modified version of axis-1.1. This stack should no longer be used.

 2) JBoss now is pushing JBossWS, based seemingly largely - but not
 entirely - on JAX-WS. Its spec support and completion status are here:

 http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWSSpecStatus

 3) 

Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-18 Thread robert lazarski

Kool stuff, hope it work out.

Cheers,
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/

On 6/18/06, Chathura Herath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

JSR 109 tries to do exacly this, i.e. adding the web services stack to
the J2ee applications. I was part of the JSR109/ AXIS1/Geronimo
integration effort. There is a summer of code project listed on doing
the same for Axis2.
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2006
No idea whether there is any progress on it.

On 6/17/06, robert lazarski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 6/16/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  robert lazarski wrote:
   snip
   Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any
   tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very close
   to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
   required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.
  
  
  I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? You
  just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as any
  other application using the EJBs.
 
- Dennis



 I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an example -
 in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a strange hybrid but
 that's what JBoss supports:

  enterprise-beans
session
  ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
  ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
  session-typeStateless/session-type
  ejb-ref
  !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
  ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
  ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
  homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
  remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
  /ejb-ref
  ...
 session
   /enterprise-beans

  import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
  import javax.ejb.SessionContext;


 public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

  private SessionContext ctx;

  public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(
  String user_name,
  String user_password) throws RemoteException {

  Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
  String soap_session_id  = null;
  Connection con = null;

  try {
 con = getConnection();
 successErrorCode = CallCentreDAO.login(con,
 call_centre_id,
   user_name, user_password,
 this);

 if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == successErrorCode) {
   SoapSession soapSession =
 serviceLocator.getSoapSessionHome().create();
   soapSession.setTimestamp( Calendar.getInstance()
 );
   soap_session_id =
 serviceLocator.getSoapSession_Id(soapSession);

 } else {
   successErrorCode =
 Messages_Codes.AuthorizationFailed;
 }
  } catch(Exception ex) {
  ctx.setRollbackOnly();
  successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
  } finally {
  if(con!=null)
  try{con.close();}catch(SQLException ex){};
  }

  return new ReturnWeb_Login (
 Messages_Codes.get(successErrorCode),
 successErrorCode.intValue(), soap_session_id, user_name);
  }

  So what this does is allow EJB transactions in a web service - notice
 ctx.setRollbackOnly() ,  and a soap session managed by the EJB container via
 a stateful session bean.

  OK, so why can you _not_ do this with Axis2 ?

  1) JBoss modified axis 1.x to support ejb transactions:


  http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

  JBossWS4EE is J2EE-1.4 compliant and available starting from jboss-4.0.0.
 It relies on a modified version of axis-1.1. This stack should no longer be
 used.

  2) JBoss now is pushing JBossWS, based seemingly largely - but not entirely
 - on JAX-WS. Its spec support and completion status are here:

 http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWSSpecStatus

  3) Most importantly: Any stack not listed above is not supported.

  So just to be clear: You can use Axis2 with EJB just fine as long as you do
 not want to have the ServiceClass implement SessionBean - this is at least
 true for JBoss. I think everyone agrees you can invoke an EJB anywhere
 anytime in any container as any web layer class would.

  Now it would be interesting to try to implement the scenerio above with
 JBoss and Axis2 since the sources are open. However, (A) It'd be a labor of
 love and I just don't see feel it (B) JBoss is GPL and axis2 is Apache
 licenesed of course, and (C)  It'd be unsupported by JBoss and even if it
 did work, the sanity of such a scenerio is rightfully questioned by sanjiva
 and many others.

  Cheers,

  Robert
  http://www.braziloutsource.com/



--
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http://people.apache.org/~chathura/
http://chathurah.blogspot.com/


Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-17 Thread robert lazarski
On 6/16/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
robert lazarski wrote: snip Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very close to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
 required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? Youjust use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as any
other application using the EJBs.- Dennis
I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so
allow me to give an example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding
and axis 1.x - a strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports: 

enterprise-beans
 session
 ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
 ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
 session-typeStateless/session-type
 ejb-ref
 !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
 ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
 ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
 homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
 remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
 /ejb-ref
 ...
 session
/enterprise-beans

 
import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
import javax.ejb.SessionContext;

public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

 private SessionContext ctx;
 
 public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(

String user_name,

String user_password) throws RemoteException {


Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 String soap_session_id = null;
 Connection con = null;

 try {

con = getConnection();

successErrorCode = CallCentreDAO.login(con, call_centre_id,

user_name, user_password, this);


if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == successErrorCode) {

SoapSession soapSession = serviceLocator.getSoapSessionHome().create();

soapSession.setTimestamp( Calendar.getInstance() );

soap_session_id = serviceLocator.getSoapSession_Id(soapSession);


} else {

successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.AuthorizationFailed;

}
 } catch(Exception ex) {

ctx.setRollbackOnly();

successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 } finally {

if(con!=null)

try{con.close();}catch(SQLException ex){};
 }


return new ReturnWeb_Login ( Messages_Codes.get(successErrorCode),
successErrorCode.intValue(), soap_session_id, user_name);
}
So what this does is allow EJB transactions in a web service -
notice ctx.setRollbackOnly() , and a soap session managed
by the EJB container via a stateful session bean. 

OK, so why can you _not_ do this with Axis2 ? 

1) JBoss modified axis 1.x to support ejb transactions: 

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

JBossWS4EE
is J2EE-1.4 compliant and available starting from jboss-4.0.0. It
relies on a modified version of axis-1.1. This stack should no longer
be used.


2) JBoss now is pushing JBossWS, based seemingly largely - but not
entirely - on JAX-WS. Its spec support and completion status are here: 

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWSSpecStatus

3) Most importantly: 
Any stack not listed above is not supported.

So just to be clear: You can use Axis2 with EJB just fine as long as
you do not want to have the ServiceClass implement SessionBean - this
is at least true for JBoss. I think everyone agrees you can invoke an
EJB anywhere anytime in any container as any web layer class would. 

Now it would be interesting to try to implement the scenerio above with
JBoss and Axis2 since the sources are open. However, (A) It'd be a
labor of love and I just don't see feel it (B) JBoss is GPL and axis2
is Apache licenesed of course, and (C) It'd be unsupported by
JBoss and even if it did work, the sanity of such a scenerio is
rightfully questioned by sanjiva and many others. 

Cheers,
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-17 Thread Chathura Herath

JSR 109 tries to do exacly this, i.e. adding the web services stack to
the J2ee applications. I was part of the JSR109/ AXIS1/Geronimo
integration effort. There is a summer of code project listed on doing
the same for Axis2.
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2006
No idea whether there is any progress on it.

On 6/17/06, robert lazarski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On 6/16/06, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 robert lazarski wrote:
  snip
  Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any
  tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very close
  to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
  required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.
 
 
 I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? You
 just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as any
 other application using the EJBs.

   - Dennis



I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an example -
in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a strange hybrid but
that's what JBoss supports:

 enterprise-beans
   session
 ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
 ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
 session-typeStateless/session-type
 ejb-ref
 !-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
 ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
 ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
 homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
 remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
 /ejb-ref
 ...
session
  /enterprise-beans

 import javax.ejb.SessionBean;
 import javax.ejb.SessionContext;


public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

 private SessionContext ctx;

 public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(
 String user_name,
 String user_password) throws RemoteException {

 Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 String soap_session_id  = null;
 Connection con = null;

 try {
con = getConnection();
successErrorCode = CallCentreDAO.login(con,
call_centre_id,
  user_name, user_password,
this);

if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == successErrorCode) {
  SoapSession soapSession =
serviceLocator.getSoapSessionHome().create();
  soapSession.setTimestamp( Calendar.getInstance()
);
  soap_session_id =
serviceLocator.getSoapSession_Id(soapSession);

} else {
  successErrorCode =
Messages_Codes.AuthorizationFailed;
}
 } catch(Exception ex) {
 ctx.setRollbackOnly();
 successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
 } finally {
 if(con!=null)
 try{con.close();}catch(SQLException ex){};
 }

 return new ReturnWeb_Login (
Messages_Codes.get(successErrorCode),
successErrorCode.intValue(), soap_session_id, user_name);
 }

 So what this does is allow EJB transactions in a web service - notice
ctx.setRollbackOnly() ,  and a soap session managed by the EJB container via
a stateful session bean.

 OK, so why can you _not_ do this with Axis2 ?

 1) JBoss modified axis 1.x to support ejb transactions:


 http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

 JBossWS4EE is J2EE-1.4 compliant and available starting from jboss-4.0.0.
It relies on a modified version of axis-1.1. This stack should no longer be
used.

 2) JBoss now is pushing JBossWS, based seemingly largely - but not entirely
- on JAX-WS. Its spec support and completion status are here:

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWSSpecStatus

 3) Most importantly: Any stack not listed above is not supported.

 So just to be clear: You can use Axis2 with EJB just fine as long as you do
not want to have the ServiceClass implement SessionBean - this is at least
true for JBoss. I think everyone agrees you can invoke an EJB anywhere
anytime in any container as any web layer class would.

 Now it would be interesting to try to implement the scenerio above with
JBoss and Axis2 since the sources are open. However, (A) It'd be a labor of
love and I just don't see feel it (B) JBoss is GPL and axis2 is Apache
licenesed of course, and (C)  It'd be unsupported by JBoss and even if it
did work, the sanity of such a scenerio is rightfully questioned by sanjiva
and many others.

 Cheers,

 Robert
 http://www.braziloutsource.com/




--
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http://people.apache.org/~chathura/
http://chathurah.blogspot.com/

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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-17 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
Okay, so I guess what you're after is automatic deployment of EJBs as 
web services. The alternative of making regular calls to the actual EJB 
just involves using a proxy class which handles the EJB lookup and 
forwards all calls on to the EJB. It  should be fairly easy to just 
write a code generator to create these proxy classes. Even without 
automatic proxy generation it seems extreme to say that Axis2 is not an 
option, though.


 - Dennis

robert lazarski wrote:



On 6/16/06, *Dennis Sosnoski* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


robert lazarski wrote:
 snip
 Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any
 tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very
close
 to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have
 required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.


I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? You
just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as
any
other application using the EJBs.

  - Dennis


 

I'm not 100% sure we are on the same page, so allow me to give an 
example - in JBoss 4.0.x using JSWDP databinding and axis 1.x - a 
strange hybrid but that's what JBoss supports:


enterprise-beans
  session
ejb-nameMyWebService/ejb-name
ejb-classorg.MyWebService/ejb-class
session-typeStateless/session-type
ejb-ref
!-- SoapSession is a stateful session bean --
ejb-ref-nameejb/SoapSession/ejb-ref-name
ejb-ref-typeSession/ejb-ref-type
homeorg.SoapSessionHome/home
remoteorg.SoapSession/remote
/ejb-ref
...
   session
 /enterprise-beans
 
import javax.ejb.SessionBean;

import javax.ejb.SessionContext;

public class MyWebService implements SessionBean {

private SessionContext ctx;
   
public ReturnWeb_Login web_Login(

String user_name,
String user_password) throws RemoteException {

Integer successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
String soap_session_id  = null;
Connection con = null;

try {
   con = getConnection();
   successErrorCode = CallCentreDAO.login(con, 
call_centre_id,

 user_name, user_password, this);

   if(Messages_Codes.SUCCESS == successErrorCode) {
 SoapSession soapSession = 
serviceLocator.getSoapSessionHome().create();
 soapSession.setTimestamp( 
Calendar.getInstance() );
 soap_session_id = 
serviceLocator.getSoapSession_Id(soapSession);


   } else {
 successErrorCode = 
Messages_Codes.AuthorizationFailed;

   }
} catch(Exception ex) {
ctx.setRollbackOnly();
successErrorCode = Messages_Codes.FAILURE;
} finally {
if(con!=null)
try{con.close();}catch(SQLException ex){};
}

return new ReturnWeb_Login ( 
Messages_Codes.get(successErrorCode), successErrorCode.intValue(), 
soap_session_id, user_name);

}

So what this does is allow EJB transactions in a web service - notice  
ctx.setRollbackOnly() ,  and a soap session managed by the EJB 
container via a stateful session bean.


OK, so why can you _not_ do this with Axis2 ?

1) JBoss modified axis 1.x to support ejb transactions:

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

JBossWS4EE http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWS4EE is 
J2EE-1.4 compliant and available starting from jboss-4.0.0. It relies 
on a modified version of axis-1.1. This stack should no longer be used.


2) JBoss now is pushing JBossWS, based seemingly largely - but not 
entirely - on JAX-WS. Its spec support and completion status are here:


http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossWSSpecStatus

3) Most importantly: Any stack not listed above is *not supported*.

So just to be clear: You can use Axis2 with EJB just fine as long as 
you do not want to have the ServiceClass implement SessionBean - this 
is at least true for JBoss. I think everyone agrees you can invoke an 
EJB anywhere anytime in any container as any web layer class would.


Now it would be interesting to try to implement the scenerio above 
with JBoss and Axis2 since the sources are open. However, (A) It'd be 
a labor of love and I just don't see feel it (B) JBoss is GPL and 
axis2 is Apache licenesed of course, and (C)  It'd be unsupported by 
JBoss and even if it did work, the sanity of such a scenerio is 
rightfully questioned by sanjiva and many others.


Cheers,
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/


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[AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread Andrew Lindley

I was just wondering, why neither AXIS, nor AXIS2 do support J2EE - is

this correct?
JBoss e.g. has this feature.

Is this information correct?

thanks,

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RE: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread michel.lequim
Hi, axis 1  2 work in a J2EE environment 


Michel Lequim

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I was just wondering, why neither AXIS, nor AXIS2 do support J2EE - is

this correct?
JBoss e.g. has this feature.

Is this information correct?

thanks,

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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread James Black
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  I believe the original question was a misunderstanding of what J2EE
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  JBoss is a web server that implements the J2EE standard, but also
includes axis so webservices are implemented easily.

  Axis just provides the framework for webservices to work in any
java-based webserver.

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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread GOBE HOBONA


My interpretation of the original question was why does Axis2 not support 
such features of the J2EE as Enterprise Java Beans (EJB 3.0 specifically), 
annotations, persistence etc.?


Personally, I think Axis2 offers a more transparent view of what is going on 
behind the scenes than the J2EE version 5 approach...but then again 
annotations are kind of handy :-)


GH



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  JBoss is a web server that implements the J2EE standard, but also
includes axis so webservices are implemented easily.

  Axis just provides the framework for webservices to work in any
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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread Eran Chinthaka
GOBE HOBONA wrote:
 
 My interpretation of the original question was why does Axis2 not
 support such features of the J2EE as Enterprise Java Beans (EJB 3.0
 specifically), annotations, persistence etc.?

Axis2 supporting EJBs? My mind started malfunctioning :).

..The approach of taking a J2EE application server and shoving a Web
Services layer in front of is not the right way to go about implementing
a services platform.. - Sanjiva Weerawarana
(http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3612491)

I think the reason for people asking this kind of questions is that the
J2EE providers have done exactly what Sanjiva had mentioned. So people
think EJBs should be supported inside a web service engine.

-- Chinthaka



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Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread robert lazarski
While I agree completely, I have in fact been _required_ to implement
stateless session EJB's as Web Services using Axis 1.x under JBoss. The
idea is that you can do your DB transactions and rollbacks inside those
services, while hooking the service to a ejb-ref that is _stateful_
which can have state and state timeout - all managed by a clusterable
container. 

The important point is that as strange as this may seem to me and
others, axis 1.x and JBoss supported it. Some DB type of people just
like EJB transactions in Web Services, as do vendors with marketing
budgets

Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any
tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very close
to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have required
either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option. 

For more on what JBoss supports for the sake of discussion:

http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WebServiceStacks

Just my 2 cents, 
Robert
http://www.braziloutsource.com/

On 6/16/06, Eran Chinthaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GOBE HOBONA wrote: My interpretation of the original question was why does Axis2 not support such features of the J2EE as Enterprise Java Beans (EJB 3.0 specifically), annotations, persistence etc.?
Axis2 supporting EJBs? My mind started malfunctioning :)...The approach of taking a J2EE application server and shoving a WebServices layer in front of is not the right way to go about implementing
a services platform.. - Sanjiva Weerawarana(http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3612491)I think the reason for people asking this kind of questions is that the
J2EE providers have done exactly what Sanjiva had mentioned. So peoplethink EJBs should be supported inside a web service engine.-- Chinthaka


Re: [AXIS2] J2EE Support

2006-06-16 Thread Dennis Sosnoski

robert lazarski wrote:

snip
Currently I'm integrating an EJB app with Axis2 - thankfully as any 
tomcat / servlet container web layer would. However, I came very close 
to having to implement these services as EJB, which would have 
required either JAX-WS or Axis 1.x , as Axis2 just isn't an option.



I'm puzzled by this statement, Robert. Why is Axis2 not an option? You 
just use the EJB interfaces to access the service classes, same as any 
other application using the EJBs.


 - Dennis

Dennis M. Sosnoski
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Training and Consulting
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