Re: html/named entities
On Thursday 26 December 2002 10:54 pm, S Woodside wrote: snip/ Instead I just want to be able to pass through my entities like copy, and so on without any hassle. I don't want to have to use xsl:text blahblahblahamp;copy;/xsl:text and other ugly constructions like that, or have to create length doctype declarations and so on. This is a bit like, I'm hungry, but I don't want to have to resort to all that nasty chewing and swallowing to solve the problem. . . ;- The common HTML character entities just work in browsers because those entities are a predictable, well-defined part of the HTML DTD. DTDs are *how* character entities are defined. Point is: if you want to use character entities beyond the tiny set internal to XML (amp;, etc) you will have to use doctype declarations-- no way around it. The good news is that you don't need create messy inlined DTDs in every document or stylesheet, just create a basic DTD that contains the entities you'll need and point to that DTD via the SYSTEM identifier (or use the PUBLIC identifier and make it part of your local catalog). For example: !DOCTYPE xsl:stylesheet SYSTEM html_entities.dtd will import the entities contained in html_entities.dtd file for use in the XSLT stylesheet containing that external DTD. Help at all? -kip - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: html/named entities
There is no real way of avoiding creating internal DTD declarations for your HTML entities (I guess you could use an external DTD and thus declare them all once...). Given that they never change I long ago incorporated them into the boilerplate for my final XSLT output stylesheets and forgot about it... Anyway, the internal DTD subset IS the convenience feature for doing what you want. Maybe it would be nice if XSLT's HTML output mode just assumed this, but it doesn't, thus the minor inconvenience. On Friday 27 December 2002 01:54 am, S Woodside wrote: Hi I'm happily converting my website over to axkit and have encountered this IMHO very annoying aspect of XML/XSLT - that I can't use named entities that are the default (X)HTML set without all kind of non-trivial crap. I understand that there are lots of fancy uses for entities in XSLT that is completely different from HTML. However it seems that mostly these are also accessible through XSLT functions and so I am not interested in that (should I be??). Instead I just want to be able to pass through my entities like copy, and so on without any hassle. I don't want to have to use xsl:text blahblahblahamp;copy;/xsl:text and other ugly constructions like that, or have to create length doctype declarations and so on. Help? simon --- www.simonwoodside.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tod Harter Giant Electronic Brain - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: html/named entities
On Friday, 27. December 2002 07:54, S Woodside wrote: Hi I'm happily converting my website over to axkit and have encountered this IMHO very annoying aspect of XML/XSLT - that I can't use named entities that are the default (X)HTML set without all kind of non-trivial crap. I understand that there are lots of fancy uses for entities in XSLT that is completely different from HTML. However it seems that mostly these are also accessible through XSLT functions and so I am not interested in that (should I be??). Instead I just want to be able to pass through my entities like copy, and so on without any hassle. I don't want to have to use xsl:text blahblahblahamp;copy;/xsl:text and other ugly constructions like that, or have to create length doctype declarations and so on. Well, as Kip already said, there's no way to get completely around this, but maybe this helps: - cut here -- file document root/dummy.dtd -- !ENTITY nbsp #160; !ENTITY euro #8364; - cut here - And repeat this for any char you want. Go to www.w3.org to fetch the HTML DTD and copy out the complete set of entities if you like. For every XML file (be they stylesheets or document files) which contains some named entity, put this line at the very top, right after the ?xml ...? line: !DOCTYPE data SYSTEM /dummy.dtd And that's it. Quite easy, huh? :-) -- CU Joerg PGP Public Key at http://ich.bin.kein.hoschi.de/~trouble/public_key.asc PGP Key fingerprint = D34F 57C4 99D8 8F16 E16E 7779 CDDC 41A4 4C48 6F94 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
