[AZORES-Genealogy] 16th great grandparents
Diogo Gonsalves de Travassos and Violante Velho are the 16th great grandparents of John Miranda Raposo. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo G onçalves de Travassos
Thanks a bunch for the info John. Iris --- On Sat, 6/5/10, marra...@cs.com marra...@cs.com wrote: From: marra...@cs.com marra...@cs.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 4:08 PM Dear friends and fellow genealogists: Please do not shoot the messenger! I too am a descendant of Velho Cabral's sister Violante and his brother Álvaro. For many years I included Afonso III and Madragana among their ancestors. But more recent research has shed new light on their lineage and, alas, I have had to correct some very long standing, but eroneous, lines. I include the fruit of my research in an attachment. The best contemporary research on the lineage of the Cabrals is Subsídios para Uma Biografia de Pedro Álvares Cabral by , Luís de Melo Vaz de Sampaio, Universidade de Coimbra: 1971. I offer this research in good faith and to prevent others from chasing after false genealogies. Best regards, John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Agua do Pau, Sao Miguel
Rosemarie, thank you so much for the heads up on Agua de Pau records. I was able to find my maternal grandfather and grandparents marriages and baptisms. Margaret Vicente On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:25 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: The Baptismal records and most of the Marriage records for Agua do Pau are online at the CCA site: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos. Remember that only Internet Explorer or Safari seem to work when trying to open the documents. Good Luck, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Agua do Pau, Sao Miguel
I don't think I've even uncovered any ancestors from AdP yet but this is so exciting! Thank you for sharing the link! On 6/6/2010 11:29 AM, Margaret Vicente wrote: Rosemarie, thank you so much for the heads up on Agua de Pau records. I was able to find my maternal grandfather and grandparents marriages and baptisms. Margaret Vicente On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:25 PM, rcap...@redshift.com mailto:rcap...@redshift.com wrote: The Baptismal records and most of the Marriage records for Agua do Pau are online at the CCA site: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/registos. Remember that only Internet Explorer or Safari seem to work when trying to open the documents. Good Luck, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB -
He Helen,
There is a Goncalo Velho Cabral, brother of Violante Velha Cabral and son of
Fernao Cabral; however, this Goncalo was born in the late 1300's. Celeste,
Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
--- On Sat, 6/5/10, his...@aol.com his...@aol.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB -
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 9:28 PM
They are my husband, Joe's 16 great grandparents. I feel completly left out.
as far as I know I'm not decended. Even though my 7th great grandfather is
named Goncalo Velho Cabral, born in Santo Espirto, Santa Maria married to Ann
Mattos de Braga c1670
Helen Salvador
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From: Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com
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They are my 13th great grandparents Hermano Pires
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:57:18 +
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They are my 17th great grandparents Maria Moore
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From: Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2010 8:52:25 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB -
There are 10 people in The Cabral and Travassos Country Club.
Iris Cabral Bilodeau - Me
Nancy Jean Baptiste
Celeste Perry
Eileen Leite
George Pacheco
Judi Phillips
Thomas Decosta
Richard Francis Pimental
Diana Silva
Eliseu da Silva
Please let me know if I left someone out.
Iris
--- On Fri, 6/4/10, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral and Travassos Country CLUB -
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 6:51 PM
They are my 18th great-grandparents and my maternal grandmother who descended
from them was born in Porto Judeu, Terceira.
Has anyone kept track of all the Cabral/Travassos Country Club members? I
wonder if it rivals the Ponta Garca Gang.
Celeste, Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang
You really do make me laugh. I had to look up the meaning of CRS, and I am still laughing as a result. Ah, but for some interesting news and a twist on Mr Andre Costa Furtado. I believe he only married twice. But this is not due to you memory, rather it is because his records are intricately bound up with another Andre Furtado (Sousa) of Ponta Garca, and it is indeed very difficult to determine which is which. One is Andre Furtado Sousa who was married to Escolastica Medeiros and whose marriage record is missing. I figure there is a page or two missing from the Ponta Garca records somewhere between 1748 and 1751 . I believe he was the son of Manuel Sousa Furtado and Maria Botelho Furtado. And the other is Andre Costa Furtado who married twice: once to Catarina Oliveira and the other to Catarina Matos (Costa) I can't recall which is yours (CRS), so forgive me and indulge me with your memory! JR On Jun 6, 1:15 pm, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: As I remember from a few years ago, (I do have CRS, so please feel free to correct my memory), Shirley Allegre and I began to explore Andre Costa Furtado, born Sept. 28, 1701, Agua da Pau, Sao Pedro, VFDC Sao Miguel, Azores/Shirley. As we (mostly Shirley) searched, it was discovered that Andre had married 3 times and had 16 (I think) children. Andre married Catarina de Matos, Dec. 14, 1725 Catarina de Oliviera, Sept. 21, 1744 and Escolastica de Medeiros, between 1749 - 1751. My husband, Bob, descends from both Catarina de Olviera and Escolastica de Medeiros. I don't remember if Diana Silva is part of this group; however, during our sharing of information, I learned that both of Bob's grandmothers were distant cousins. I am sure neither knew that fact even though both were born in Sao Miguel. One was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara (the elusive Maria Cristo) and the other in Lagoa. Celeste, Hayward, CA To the best of my memory, Shirley, Cheri Melo, John Rois, Richard Francis Pimentel and I are descendents of Andre. The emails were hot and heavy and someone called us the Ponta Garca Gang. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang
Have you ever looked for their marriage, In the other two Vila Franca Churches, S. Pedro and S. Miguel to esee if he married there. George On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:32 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You really do make me laugh. I had to look up the meaning of CRS, and I am still laughing as a result. Ah, but for some interesting news and a twist on Mr Andre Costa Furtado. I believe he only married twice. But this is not due to you memory, rather it is because his records are intricately bound up with another Andre Furtado (Sousa) of Ponta Garca, and it is indeed very difficult to determine which is which. One is Andre Furtado Sousa who was married to Escolastica Medeiros and whose marriage record is missing. I figure there is a page or two missing from the Ponta Garca records somewhere between 1748 and 1751 . I believe he was the son of Manuel Sousa Furtado and Maria Botelho Furtado. And the other is Andre Costa Furtado who married twice: once to Catarina Oliveira and the other to Catarina Matos (Costa) I can't recall which is yours (CRS), so forgive me and indulge me with your memory! JR On Jun 6, 1:15 pm, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: As I remember from a few years ago, (I do have CRS, so please feel free to correct my memory), Shirley Allegre and I began to explore Andre Costa Furtado, born Sept. 28, 1701, Agua da Pau, Sao Pedro, VFDC Sao Miguel, Azores/Shirley. As we (mostly Shirley) searched, it was discovered that Andre had married 3 times and had 16 (I think) children. Andre married Catarina de Matos, Dec. 14, 1725 Catarina de Oliviera, Sept. 21, 1744 and Escolastica de Medeiros, between 1749 - 1751. My husband, Bob, descends from both Catarina de Olviera and Escolastica de Medeiros. I don't remember if Diana Silva is part of this group; however, during our sharing of information, I learned that both of Bob's grandmothers were distant cousins. I am sure neither knew that fact even though both were born in Sao Miguel. One was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara (the elusive Maria Cristo) and the other in Lagoa. Celeste, Hayward, CA To the best of my memory, Shirley, Cheri Melo, John Rois, Richard Francis Pimentel and I are descendents of Andre. The emails were hot and heavy and someone called us the Ponta Garca Gang. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Goncalves Santana Maria Rodrigues
Dear Group, According to the NEPS site there is a Joao Goncalves Santana married to Maria Rodrigues in 27 May 1630, Sao Roque do Pico. They are listed with 9 children one of which is a Jose b 1650. I have a Jose Ferreira married to Goncalves in Santa Cruz Graciosa on 11 Dec 1673 listing his parents as Joao Goncalves and Maria Rodrigues of Pico (no town). Since I can't seem to find any other couple in the right timeframe that even comes close to this couple I'm thinking it might be my Jose's parents. Is anyone connected to this line? Joao Maria's children according to NEPS site: Cosme? 1631 Bartolomeu Vieira b 1635 Sebastiao? b 1637 Jose? b 1650 Filipa? b 1653 Joao Goncalves Santa Ana Junior Ana Bras b 1640 Manuel? b 1644 Antonio Vieira de Santa Ana Thanks for any help, Rosemarie -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang
Yes George, I believe Shirley looked in all three parishes. I have Manuel de Paiva married to Maria Moniz Pimentel, same period and it is missing also. I think there are at least 6 marriages missing in Ponta Garca. You can track them by baptisms, and then look for marriages and they are not there. I think Shirley and Cheri also have a Manuel Furtado missing, this one from Vila Franca marriage. I noticed that RR and Canto made references to records that longer exist. They probably crumbled or washed out. JR On Jun 6, 6:41 pm, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever looked for their marriage, In the other two Vila Franca Churches, S. Pedro and S. Miguel to esee if he married there. George On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:32 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You really do make me laugh. I had to look up the meaning of CRS, and I am still laughing as a result. Ah, but for some interesting news and a twist on Mr Andre Costa Furtado. I believe he only married twice. But this is not due to you memory, rather it is because his records are intricately bound up with another Andre Furtado (Sousa) of Ponta Garca, and it is indeed very difficult to determine which is which. One is Andre Furtado Sousa who was married to Escolastica Medeiros and whose marriage record is missing. I figure there is a page or two missing from the Ponta Garca records somewhere between 1748 and 1751 . I believe he was the son of Manuel Sousa Furtado and Maria Botelho Furtado. And the other is Andre Costa Furtado who married twice: once to Catarina Oliveira and the other to Catarina Matos (Costa) I can't recall which is yours (CRS), so forgive me and indulge me with your memory! JR On Jun 6, 1:15 pm, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: As I remember from a few years ago, (I do have CRS, so please feel free to correct my memory), Shirley Allegre and I began to explore Andre Costa Furtado, born Sept. 28, 1701, Agua da Pau, Sao Pedro, VFDC Sao Miguel, Azores/Shirley. As we (mostly Shirley) searched, it was discovered that Andre had married 3 times and had 16 (I think) children. Andre married Catarina de Matos, Dec. 14, 1725 Catarina de Oliviera, Sept. 21, 1744 and Escolastica de Medeiros, between 1749 - 1751. My husband, Bob, descends from both Catarina de Olviera and Escolastica de Medeiros. I don't remember if Diana Silva is part of this group; however, during our sharing of information, I learned that both of Bob's grandmothers were distant cousins. I am sure neither knew that fact even though both were born in Sao Miguel. One was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara (the elusive Maria Cristo) and the other in Lagoa. Celeste, Hayward, CA To the best of my memory, Shirley, Cheri Melo, John Rois, Richard Francis Pimentel and I are descendents of Andre. The emails were hot and heavy and someone called us the Ponta Garca Gang. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang
Thanks JR On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:25 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: Yes George, I believe Shirley looked in all three parishes. I have Manuel de Paiva married to Maria Moniz Pimentel, same period and it is missing also. I think there are at least 6 marriages missing in Ponta Garca. You can track them by baptisms, and then look for marriages and they are not there. I think Shirley and Cheri also have a Manuel Furtado missing, this one from Vila Franca marriage. I noticed that RR and Canto made references to records that longer exist. They probably crumbled or washed out. JR On Jun 6, 6:41 pm, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever looked for their marriage, In the other two Vila Franca Churches, S. Pedro and S. Miguel to esee if he married there. George On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:32 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You really do make me laugh. I had to look up the meaning of CRS, and I am still laughing as a result. Ah, but for some interesting news and a twist on Mr Andre Costa Furtado. I believe he only married twice. But this is not due to you memory, rather it is because his records are intricately bound up with another Andre Furtado (Sousa) of Ponta Garca, and it is indeed very difficult to determine which is which. One is Andre Furtado Sousa who was married to Escolastica Medeiros and whose marriage record is missing. I figure there is a page or two missing from the Ponta Garca records somewhere between 1748 and 1751 . I believe he was the son of Manuel Sousa Furtado and Maria Botelho Furtado. And the other is Andre Costa Furtado who married twice: once to Catarina Oliveira and the other to Catarina Matos (Costa) I can't recall which is yours (CRS), so forgive me and indulge me with your memory! JR On Jun 6, 1:15 pm, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: As I remember from a few years ago, (I do have CRS, so please feel free to correct my memory), Shirley Allegre and I began to explore Andre Costa Furtado, born Sept. 28, 1701, Agua da Pau, Sao Pedro, VFDC Sao Miguel, Azores/Shirley. As we (mostly Shirley) searched, it was discovered that Andre had married 3 times and had 16 (I think) children. Andre married Catarina de Matos, Dec. 14, 1725 Catarina de Oliviera, Sept. 21, 1744 and Escolastica de Medeiros, between 1749 - 1751. My husband, Bob, descends from both Catarina de Olviera and Escolastica de Medeiros. I don't remember if Diana Silva is part of this group; however, during our sharing of information, I learned that both of Bob's grandmothers were distant cousins. I am sure neither knew that fact even though both were born in Sao Miguel. One was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara (the elusive Maria Cristo) and the other in Lagoa. Celeste, Hayward, CA To the best of my memory, Shirley, Cheri Melo, John Rois, Richard Francis Pimentel and I are descendents of Andre. The emails were hot and heavy and someone called us the Ponta Garca Gang. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang
OK, John, here is what I have. Jose, son of Andre Furtado Catarina de Oliviera, both from Sao Pedro, VFdoC, was born on 3 Jan. 1746 baptized on the 9th... (translation by Joao Ventura) Jose is the ancestor of my husband, Bob's, maternal grandfather, JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA, born 1869 in Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel. Maria, daughter of Andre Furtado de Sousa his wife, Escolastica de Medeiros, both from Ponta Garca, was born on 29, Oct. 1759 and was baptised on 4 Nov., in Ponta Garca. ( translated by Joao Ventura) Maria is the ancestor of my husband, Bob's, maternal grandmother, MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA, born 1888, in Lagoa, Sao Miguel. I have Andre Costa Furtado's parents as MANUEL FURTADO de SOUSA MARIA BOTELHO. This from Shirley. Celeste, Hayward, CA John, as I was trying to go through my doccuments, I remember the difficulty I had trying to make sense of this family. I think I stopped trying when I realized 3 marriages and 16 kids probably meant I had it mixed up. Shirley sent me a lot of the peripheral line (siblings) and, at the time, it seemed to fit. If anyone of the Ponta Garca Gang can figure it out, I would appreciate hearing what you find. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 6/6/10, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: From: JR jro...@rogers.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca Gang To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 2:32 PM You really do make me laugh. I had to look up the meaning of CRS, and I am still laughing as a result. Ah, but for some interesting news and a twist on Mr Andre Costa Furtado. I believe he only married twice. But this is not due to you memory, rather it is because his records are intricately bound up with another Andre Furtado (Sousa) of Ponta Garca, and it is indeed very difficult to determine which is which. One is Andre Furtado Sousa who was married to Escolastica Medeiros and whose marriage record is missing. I figure there is a page or two missing from the Ponta Garca records somewhere between 1748 and 1751 . I believe he was the son of Manuel Sousa Furtado and Maria Botelho Furtado. And the other is Andre Costa Furtado who married twice: once to Catarina Oliveira and the other to Catarina Matos (Costa) I can't recall which is yours (CRS), so forgive me and indulge me with your memory! JR On Jun 6, 1:15 pm, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote: As I remember from a few years ago, (I do have CRS, so please feel free to correct my memory), Shirley Allegre and I began to explore Andre Costa Furtado, born Sept. 28, 1701, Agua da Pau, Sao Pedro, VFDC Sao Miguel, Azores/Shirley. As we (mostly Shirley) searched, it was discovered that Andre had married 3 times and had 16 (I think) children. Andre married Catarina de Matos, Dec. 14, 1725 Catarina de Oliviera, Sept. 21, 1744 and Escolastica de Medeiros, between 1749 - 1751. My husband, Bob, descends from both Catarina de Olviera and Escolastica de Medeiros. I don't remember if Diana Silva is part of this group; however, during our sharing of information, I learned that both of Bob's grandmothers were distant cousins. I am sure neither knew that fact even though both were born in Sao Miguel. One was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara (the elusive Maria Cristo) and the other in Lagoa. Celeste, Hayward, CA To the best of my memory, Shirley, Cheri Melo, John Rois, Richard Francis Pimentel and I are descendents of Andre. The emails were hot and heavy and someone called us the Ponta Garca Gang. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
I've become envious of the Ponta Garca Gang and the Cabral Travassos Country Club and their good fortune in finding cousins. So I hereby establish the Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society. We Flores people are not so fortunate as our more easterly cousins. Flores was subject to the plunderings of Pirates and Privateers which took a toll on our ancestors and their institutions. According to historical accounts, Flores was attacked by Privateers in the mid 1600's who burned every church on the Island. As a result most records before the late 1600's were lost. Even the records on neighboring Corvo go back earlier, to the early 1600's, as I recall. The earliest documented marriage that I have discovered among my ancestors was that of Manoel Pimentel to Isabel de Freitas, Nov 26, 1692, Santa Cruz, Flores who were my 4G Grandparents (He had been married previously, in the 1680's as I recall). His parents were Domingos Nunes and Marianna Fraga, date and place of birth unknown although it was probably Santa Cruz, Flores. I would venture a guess that Marianna was related to Diogo das Chagas, whose mother was also a Fraga. Her parents were Domingos Fernandez and Catarina de Freitas. How about it, any cousins out there with these same ancestors? John Vasconcelos -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
