[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Muniz brothers from Sao Roque,Mi ? Azores.
Thanks Cheri, I dont know which island just the details that i posted and their parents details dont help either. Thanks for your information Best Wishes Chris On Mar 23, 3:54 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Sao Roque on which island? Some people may say Sao Roque referring to the church (there's one on Sao Miguel and Terceria) or to the freguesia of Sao Roque (on Pico). If it's Sao Roque the church in Rosto de Cao on S.Miguel, records leaving the port of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel don't exist. If it's Sao Roque the church in Altares, records leaving the port of Angra on the island of Terceira do exist, but they are not online. You will need someone to do a look up for you. If it's Sao Roque the church AND freguesia on Pico, they might have left the port of Horta on Faial. They are not online and I'm not sure if they go back to the 1850s. If they do, you will need someone to do a lookup for you. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familia Faialenses access
is it possible you open the link and have the book open and send the link? Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA Pesquisando: Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. --- Em ter, 22/3/11, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familia Faialenses access Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 22 de Março de 2011, 16:50 It's 1:45 pm PDT and I'm on a PC and I accessed the site with Mozilla's Firefox. The PC has Java updated and FoxIt (instead of Adobe Reader), as well as Flash, and all are up to date. I'm on broadband, on a cable modem. I can see the book. What I did: 1) http://www.hathitrust.org/ 2) In the CATALOG box, I typed in familia faialenses without quotes or diacritics. Hit the Find button. 3) In the next window, it comes up. I clicked on Full View and it opened. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vieira Anselmo, Ribeira Grande area, Sao Miguel island
HI, My family are also from Sao Miguel, Ribeira Grande area. I can't find any information on them so far, except they left in 1895 from Ponta Delgada, on the SS Braunfels Jacintho Rapozo, and Maria Augusta with one daughter Mary. What I want to know is the town they were really from and where they were born, who are their parents. I can't find that information. It would be so great to learn more. Thanks On Mar 21, 9:29 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Mike A: mikee108 at hotmail.com hello Ally, i have actually got quite a bit of help thanks to Pat who has directed me towards some great info for my vieira anselmo side . It belongs on my maternal side. I have not been focussing much of my attention on this side yet , but definetely am gonna get to it when i have some more time. They all seem to be from the Sao pedro , ribeira seca da ribeira grande area. My great grandparents are as follows great grandparents --SOPHIA VIEIRA ANSELMO (b. dec 1898) m MANUEL DE SOUSA CALOURO b 1896 her parents --FRANSISCO VIEIRA ANSELMO b.1854 m MARIA OLINDA b.1868 fransisco's parents --JOSE ANSELMO VIEIRA m JACINTA JULIA ( OR OU DE JESUS) jose's parents --MANUEL ANSELMO VIEIRA m 1819 MARIA DA ESTRELA manuel's parents --ANSELMO VIEIRA m JOSEFA DE JESUS anselmos parents --ANTONIO VIEIRA m QUITERIA DE JESUS She had about 14 or 15 siblings from what i have heard. Not sure if they are all here, I have the following list of -maria b.1884 -manuel b 1885 -jose b.1887 -carolina b1888 -rosalina b.1889 -jacinto b.1891 -antonio vieira b 1892 m to luzia do carmo reis ( daughter of manuel dos reis and jacinta augusta soares) -jacinto b.1894 - jose b.1897 -manuel vieira b.1901 m to maria da estrela barbosa( daughter of joaquim carreiro barbosa and maria hortencia) -joao vieira b 1903 m to beatriz dias branco( daughter of jose dias branco and maria do rosario) -hermano vieira b 1907 m to maria jose rebelo (Daughter of joao rebelo and maria jose) -georgina b 1909 m manuel de sousa coelho (son of joaquim de sousa coelho and ana da conceicao coelho) I am not sure where they moved on from ribeira grande area. I think i have come across your name also when i was starting to look for the Vieira anselmo line. Who are your grandparents and familly? please let me know if you got any more info , thanks andf take care . -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took
Bob, I grew up in Merced, CA and my great grandparents immigrated from the Azores. I was fortunate to have known them and they lived into my high school years. Francisco Jorge arrived in Boston, MA and traveled by train to Merced, CA in the late 1800's. Leopoldina Freitas arrived through NYC (Ellis Island) twenty years later as Francisco sent for her. He traveled with her and a traveling companion by train from NYC to Merced, CA. Merced has railroad passenger service through the Santa Fe Railroad. The route stops in Bakersfield to the south and does not continue to Los Angeles. The route does continue north to Martinez, CA and connects with railroads that went through major midwest cities (Chicago) and eventually to the East. Our relatives took this northern route Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:23:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took To: azores@googlegroups.com Bob, By point A to point B you are asking how he got from Providence, RI to Merced, CA? Probably train. I don't think train (choo choo train) manifests exist. And the migration was within the country, not people from outside the country. The government keeps track of the outsiders from other countries. I know of a few Mormon wagon trail lists that exist, but 1920 was probably too late for the wagon. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vieira Anselmo, Ribeira Grande area, Sao Miguel island
Deb, Passaportes leaving the Azores for the port of Ponta Delgada are online for the year 1895 at: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ Click on Passaportes on the right. Click on Ponta Delgada on the next screen Click on 1894-1896 to see that book. Start wading through it, looking for your family. If you find it and need help, copy the URL and post it to the list. Someone will tell you what the other columns say. Don't use Firefox to access the site. It will stop working right before you view the images. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Familia Faialenses access
Hi Karl, Actually, it doesn't look like you can download it. It looks like you can register for a full view, but it doesn't say anything about downloading. Maybe someone else has tried that? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took
Thank you everyone and also Debbie for this information In a message dated 3/23/2011 11:03:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wolgemut...@msn.com writes: Bob, I grew up in Merced, CA and my great grandparents immigrated from the Azores. I was fortunate to have known them and they lived into my high school years. Francisco Jorge arrived in Boston, MA and traveled by train to Merced, CA in the late 1800's. Leopoldina Freitas arrived through NYC (Ellis Island) twenty years later as Francisco sent for her. He traveled with her and a traveling companion by train from NYC to Merced, CA. Merced has railroad passenger service through the Santa Fe Railroad. The route stops in Bakersfield to the south and does not continue to Los Angeles. The route does continue north to Martinez, CA and connects with railroads that went through major midwest cities (Chicago) and eventually to the East. Our relatives took this northern route Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:23:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took To: azores@googlegroups.com Bob, By point A to point B you are asking how he got from Providence, RI to Merced, CA? Probably train. I don't think train (choo choo train) manifests exist. And the migration was within the country, not people from outside the country. The government keeps track of the outsiders from other countries. I know of a few Mormon wagon trail lists that exist, but 1920 was probably too late for the wagon. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oliver/oliveira
my grandfather's name was also antone , can't find anyone to help, From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:27:51 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oliver/oliveira Janis, I tried sending this before but I don't think it got sent. I have an Oliveira/Oliver family from New London CT Antone Oliver b. Sao Miguel abt. 1850 and Jennie Sanders Mello b. Faial abt. 1858. They had 14 children. Some of their children lived in New Bedford. Do you have your father's parent's names? I can try and see if they match this Oliver family I have researched and if so, I will gladly send you the info I have on them. Your best bet is to try and get obits for them but obits from LA are a little difficult to obtain but someone on this list might be able to help with that. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The Trip they took
Rosemarie, My grandmother did not say anything about going to New York. I have the List or Manifest of Alien passenger etc. There are 13 people listed on the page. 10 came from Terceira and 3 came Sao Jorge. 6 people had their immigration verified, normally they applied for citzenship. The list states S.S. Madonna left Angra on July 25, 1911. Jack On 3/20/2011 6:46 PM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Jack They must have been on the same ship! The Madonna landed in New York City on the 4th of Aug. and then went on to Prov. RI. May Aunt Jessie said that they were held in the harbor in RI for 3 days because someone was ill and they quarantined the ship. Did you Mom ever say anything about that?? Rosemarie Rosemarie, My mother arrived on July 31, 1911. Jack -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oliver/oliveira
Janis, All I have is what I gave you. But I have a feeling you are not from my Oliver family. Elaine On Mar 23, 2011 12:39pm, Janis Davis jdavis0...@yahoo.com wrote: my grandfather's name was also antone , can't find anyone to help, From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:27:51 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] oliver/oliveira Janis, I tried sending this before but I don't think it got sent. I have an Oliveira/Oliver family from New London CT Antone Oliver b. Sao Miguel abt. 1850 and Jennie Sanders Mello b. Faial abt. 1858. They had 14 children. Some of their children lived in New Bedford. Do you have your father's parent's names? I can try and see if they match this Oliver family I have researched and if so, I will gladly send you the info I have on them. Your best bet is to try and get obits for them but obits from LA are a little difficult to obtain but someone on this list might be able to help with that. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vieira Anselmo, Ribeira Grande area, Sao Miguel island
Again I don't have Mary Jo's email address Carmen, but did your ggrandfather Manuel de Sousa Calouro marry Sophia Vieira Anselmo? I have Manuel de Sousa Calouro married to Maria da Gloria Pacheco. This would be around the same time frame 1890's. Manuel de Sousa Calouro is my ggrandfather Antonio de Sousa Calouro's brother. They are from Ribeira Grande. Linda Borges Norton Furtado _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 9:29 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vieira Anselmo, Ribeira Grande area, Sao Miguel island Repost for Mike A: mikee108 at hotmail.com hello Ally, i have actually got quite a bit of help thanks to Pat who has directed me towards some great info for my vieira anselmo side . It belongs on my maternal side. I have not been focussing much of my attention on this side yet , but definetely am gonna get to it when i have some more time. They all seem to be from the Sao pedro , ribeira seca da ribeira grande area. My great grandparents are as follows great grandparents --SOPHIA VIEIRA ANSELMO (b. dec 1898) m MANUEL DE SOUSA CALOURO b 1896 her parents --FRANSISCO VIEIRA ANSELMO b.1854 m MARIA OLINDA b.1868 fransisco's parents --JOSE ANSELMO VIEIRA m JACINTA JULIA ( OR OU DE JESUS) jose's parents --MANUEL ANSELMO VIEIRA m 1819 MARIA DA ESTRELA manuel's parents --ANSELMO VIEIRA m JOSEFA DE JESUS anselmos parents --ANTONIO VIEIRA m QUITERIA DE JESUS She had about 14 or 15 siblings from what i have heard. Not sure if they are all here, I have the following list of -maria b.1884 -manuel b 1885 -jose b.1887 -carolina b1888 -rosalina b.1889 -jacinto b.1891 -antonio vieira b 1892 m to luzia do carmo reis ( daughter of manuel dos reis and jacinta augusta soares) -jacinto b.1894 - jose b.1897 -manuel vieira b.1901 m to maria da estrela barbosa( daughter of joaquim carreiro barbosa and maria hortencia) -joao vieira b 1903 m to beatriz dias branco( daughter of jose dias branco and maria do rosario) -hermano vieira b 1907 m to maria jose rebelo (Daughter of joao rebelo and maria jose) -georgina b 1909 m manuel de sousa coelho (son of joaquim de sousa coelho and ana da conceicao coelho) I am not sure where they moved on from ribeira grande area. I think i have come across your name also when i was starting to look for the Vieira anselmo line. Who are your grandparents and familly? please let me know if you got any more info , thanks andf take care . -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
I would love a copy. Linda Borges Furtado Norton -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawika322 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:45 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades I have a digital copy of the translated livro quarto of saudades da terra that I scanned that i can send to whoever wants a copy. I also burned a copy to a cd that I put in the Oakland FHC library which should be available to those who want to view it. David On Mar 21, 6:49 pm, emac...@aol.com wrote: Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
_ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Book 4 of Saudades Da Terra was translated by Edna Phillips kern and published in 2001. I purchased a copy from her and had this email and address for her in the cover of the book nerka...@aol.com, 12760 Perris Blvd A-8, Moreno Valley, CA 92553-2339. I think I paid around $35. I am not sure if any CD copies are authorized as the book was published in paper cover. I would be careful of distributing any burned copies of a CD. I think translating this would be considered a intellectual work and thus protected under copyright laws. Even if not how would you feel if someone took the genealogy work you did and distributed it freely? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
_ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Book 4 of Saudades Da Terra was translated by Edna Phillips kern and published in 2001. I purchased a copy from her and had this email and address for her in the cover of the book nerka...@aol.com, 12760 Perris Blvd A-8, Moreno Valley, CA 92553-2339. I think I paid around $35. I am not sure if any CD copies are authorized as the book was published in paper cover. I would be careful of distributing any burned copies of a CD. I think translating this would be considered a intellectual work and thus protected under copyright laws. Even if not how would you feel if someone took the genealogy work you did and distributed it freely? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
Sorry, the email were sent quickly without a message. I didn't realize that. I will contact Edna then. Thanks, Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Book 4 of Saudades Da Terra was translated by Edna Phillips kern and published in 2001. I purchased a copy from her and had this email and address for her in the cover of the book nerka...@aol.com, 12760 Perris Blvd A-8, Moreno Valley, CA 92553-2339. I think I paid around $35. I am not sure if any CD copies are authorized as the book was published in paper cover. I would be careful of distributing any burned copies of a CD. I think translating this would be considered a intellectual work and thus protected under copyright laws. Even if not how would you feel if someone took the genealogy work you did and distributed it freely? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades
No Edna, then is there another way of getting the volume of Saudades? Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Norton Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 8:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Sorry, the email were sent quickly without a message. I didn't realize that. I will contact Edna then. Thanks, Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Book 4 of Saudades Da Terra was translated by Edna Phillips kern and published in 2001. I purchased a copy from her and had this email and address for her in the cover of the book nerka...@aol.com, 12760 Perris Blvd A-8, Moreno Valley, CA 92553-2339. I think I paid around $35. I am not sure if any CD copies are authorized as the book was published in paper cover. I would be careful of distributing any burned copies of a CD. I think translating this would be considered a intellectual work and thus protected under copyright laws. Even if not how would you feel if someone took the genealogy work you did and distributed it freely? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of emac...@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 8:50 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translated 4th volume of Saudades Yes, one that I know of, but the only way to get a copy is a used copy. I can't remember her name, but she translated Livro Quarto of Das Saudades da Terra by Gaspar Frutuoso. It's about the leading families in the early days of the Azores. Mostly Sao Miguel and Santa Maria...little on the other islands. Frutuoso, I believed died in the late 1500's. I know several people on the list have the book. I gave my copy to the Family History Library in Oakland. Eloise In a message dated 3/21/2011 6:27:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mikee...@hotmail.com writes: Do any of you know if any of the sao miguel books have been translated into english text? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Muniz brothers from Sao Roque,Mi ? Azores.
Well I have Jose Borges on my mother's paternal side from Ribeira Grande. Mother was Maria Rosa from Ribeira Grande that came down from the do Rego Baldaia family. Linda Borges Furtado Norton _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:36 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Muniz brothers from Sao Roque,Mi ? Azores. Chris: � My husband also had two brothers that were on the Water Lily in 1853 from Azores to Australia. They were gold miners in the Crestwick area.� They were teen agers also and through researching, I learned they went with their father and the father's brother in law.� The names were Jacintho Jose de Lima and Jose Jacintho de Lima.� The father was Antonio Jose de Lima and his brother in law was J. Borges. � That ship arriving in October (I think) was full of people from�the Azores, judging from the Portuguese names.� Who knows that our ancestors might have known and worked together.� the Lima's were partners in The Humbug Hill Sluicing Company.� I don't know what happened to the company.� Both brothers returned to the Azores.� One of them married an English girl, Charlotte Staley who had an 8 year old son who had passed away.� They were married less than a year when Charlotte also died and he buried her in the same site; I have picture of the gravestone.� Charlotte was a fruitier and owned a store on Albert Street.� Jacintho advertised sale of the store in the Crestwick and Clunes Register and Advertiser selling the store and belongings and returned to the Azores after her death. � Maybe, we will find some connection. � Warm regards, � Maria Elena (Lima)� On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:49 AM, cmurray56 cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Please help, i dont know how to find records of people leaving Sao Roque in 1850's. �How do i find these records? Francisco Joaquim Muniz b 1838 Sao Roque d 1899 Smythesdale,victoria,australia Manuel Carreio Muniz b 1827 Sao Roque, d 1882 Creswick, victoria, austrralia Parents of the above are; Francisco Carreio Muniz b 1803 Sao,Roque Maria Joaquina b 1803 Sao Pedro All the records in Australia are spelt MUNIZ. Thanks Chris -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . �Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. �Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Muniz brothers from Sao Roque,Mi ? Azores.
Hi Maria, I cant thankyou enough for your reply. Its so great to finaly find some details of the arrival of Portuguse people to Australia. Francisco J Muniz was a store keeper and miner at Smythesdale and i do know of members of the Muniz family buried at Creswick. I do know that Francisco had shares in a gold mine. I do know that Manuel Carreiro Muniz died in Creswick in 1882, his wife was Louisa Sims. In April there is a gathering of Pioneer family desendants at Smythesdale Botanical Gardens, it is to celebrate 150 years since families arrived and settled into the area. I hope to meet up with people that may be related. I do know that there is a living Muiz in the area who is a member of the historical society that will be there on the day. I would like to contact you by email to compare notes. Thankyou so much, Best Wishes Chris On Mar 24, 7:35 am, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: Chris: My husband also had two brothers that were on the Water Lily in 1853 from Azores to Australia. They were gold miners in the Crestwick area. They were teen agers also and through researching, I learned they went with their father and the father's brother in law. The names were Jacintho Jose de Lima and Jose Jacintho de Lima. The father was Antonio Jose de Lima and his brother in law was J. Borges. That ship arriving in October (I think) was full of people from the Azores, judging from the Portuguese names. Who knows that our ancestors might have known and worked together. the Lima's were partners in The Humbug Hill Sluicing Company. I don't know what happened to the company. Both brothers returned to the Azores. One of them married an English girl, Charlotte Staley who had an 8 year old son who had passed away. They were married less than a year when Charlotte also died and he buried her in the same site; I have picture of the gravestone. Charlotte was a fruitier and owned a store on Albert Street. Jacintho advertised sale of the store in the Crestwick and Clunes Register and Advertiser selling the store and belongings and returned to the Azores after her death. Maybe, we will find some connection. Warm regards, Maria Elena (Lima) On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:49 AM, cmurray56 cmurra...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Please help, i dont know how to find records of people leaving Sao Roque in 1850's. How do i find these records? Francisco Joaquim Muniz b 1838 Sao Roque d 1899 Smythesdale,victoria,australia Manuel Carreio Muniz b 1827 Sao Roque, d 1882 Creswick, victoria, austrralia Parents of the above are; Francisco Carreio Muniz b 1803 Sao,Roque Maria Joaquina b 1803 Sao Pedro All the records in Australia are spelt MUNIZ. Thanks Chris -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
