Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[besotes]

Let's try this email again.  Came back saying it couldn't go thru...


Hello Mike and Adair,

Mike, Adair and I are on each other's tree hoping to one day find a =20
connection.  She and I actually met on Facebook and I recommended she =20
connect with the google group and here we are.  I came across her =20
Great-Grandfather (Henry Borba) I hope I have his name correct Adair.  =20
Anyhow, no connection as of yet.

Fonte Bastardo is on the island of Terceira so we're at least close =20
but I'm not sure of any connection.

I see Louis Borba in your tree born in Willows, CA.  My other =20
Portuguese line (Bettencourt) owned a dairy in Willows in the late =20
1920's or 30's.

Are you located in California yourself?  If so, Northern or Southern?

Robin Borba Besotes

PS:  Are you on Facebook too?




Quoting MICHAEL DEUBERT :

Thanks my great great grandfather was Joao Martins vaz borba cadet   
pronounced cadish. My great grandfather was Antone luis martins   
borba born in brazilMike


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[besotes]

Hello Mike,

We're your connection to Terceira on the Borba line?  Do you know  
which parish?


Robin Borba Besotes


Quoting MICHAEL DEUBERT :

Thanks my great great grandfather was Joao Martins vaz borba cadet   
pronounced cadish. My great grandfather was Antone luis martins   
borba born in brazilMike


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname

[bpjp25]

Thanks, Mary Ann. I will be in Faial in three weeks and will view the original 
document.

 I hope it turns out to be Dutra. It will simplify things.

Thank you.

Janice





-Original Message-
From: Cakemom102 
To: azores 
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname


Just be aware, that the NEPS site is not always correct.  I have found several  
mistakes on that site for my family.  I knew they were mistaken, because I have 
copies of the original documents.
 
Mary Ann
 

In a message dated 6/7/2011 2:07:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bpj...@aol.com 
writes:

Yes. It is on the NEPS sight, printed, so no chance for misreading. That is why 
I am so confused.
 
Thanks for the reply.
 
Janice






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From: Dano 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:12 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname


Are you certain that it is "Debra," and not "Dutra?"
On Jun 7, 9:35 am, bpj...@aol.com wrote:
 In researching my family in Lajes do Pico, I found the name Manuel Rodrigues 
ebra. Has anyone come across the surname Debra in their research?

 Thank you.
 Janice Perry
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname

[Cheri Mello]

Janice,

Yes, do what Mary Ann said.  Get the original records.  Someone on their end
may have misread or misentered the record.  With thousand of records,
there's bound to be some mistakes.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname

[Cakemom102]

Just be aware, that the NEPS site is not always correct.  I have  found 
several  mistakes on that site for my family.  I knew they  were mistaken, 
because I have copies of the original documents.
 
Mary Ann
 
 
In a message dated 6/7/2011 2:07:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bpj...@aol.com writes:

Yes. It is on the NEPS sight, printed, so no chance for misreading. That  
is why I am so confused.
 
Thanks for the reply.
 
Janice





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From: Dano 
To: Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:12 pm
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname


Are you certain that it is "Debra," and not "Dutra?" 
 On Jun 7, 9:35 am, _bpj...@aol.com_ (mailto:bpj...@aol.com)  wrote:
 > In researching my family in Lajes do Pico, I found the name Manuel 
Rodrigues 
 Debra. Has anyone come across the surname Debra in their research?
 >
 > Thank you.
 > Janice Perry
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname

[bpjp25]

Yes. It is on the NEPS sight, printed, so no chance for misreading. That is why 
I am so confused.

Thanks for the reply.

Janice






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To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2011 4:12 pm
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname


Are you certain that it is "Debra," and not "Dutra?"
On Jun 7, 9:35 am, bpj...@aol.com wrote:
 In researching my family in Lajes do Pico, I found the name Manuel Rodrigues 
ebra. Has anyone come across the surname Debra in their research?

 Thank you.
 Janice Perry
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[MICHAEL DEUBERT]

Thanks my great great grandfather was Joao Martins vaz borba cadet pronounced 
cadish. My great grandfather was Antone luis martins borba born in 
brazilMike
  - Original Message - 
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com ; 
tr6 
  Cc: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba


  Hello,

  My 2nd Great Grandfather, Jose da Rocha de Borba immigrated from  
  Terceira to  California in 1870.

  He was born in 1850, Angra do Heroismo, Terceira, Azores
  Baptism at St. Bartholomew dos Regatos Parish Church, Angra do Heroísmo

  In 1883 he lived in Milpitas and later settled in the San Jose area  
  and was a large land owner up until he died in 1928.

  I show Jose having a brother Joao born about 1863 and their parents  
  were Jose da Rocha de Borba and Custodia Candida.  In addition, I have  
  a total of nine children (so far) and some information going back to  
  1760 on this line.

  My new desktop has been sent in for a diagnosis since the blue screen  
  of death has appeared several times, so I'm reply by webmailin  
  case you don't receive a prompt reply from me you know why.

  Robin Borba Besotes
  Northern California


  Quoting tr6 mailto:triumph_...@msn.com>>:

  > Looking for Ancestry back to Treceira. Antone Borba came to California
  > in the 1880's.Looking for any information..Thanks...

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[MICHAEL DEUBERT]

Yes Mine is Deubert just search borba and it should come up. What is yours and 
I keep updating all the time. I have relatives going back to azores next month 
to do more research. My great great grandfather is Joao Martins Vaz Borba 
(Cadet) pronounced cadish  from Treceira My grandfather was Antone luis martins 
borba born in brazil.Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adair Borba 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba


  I am searching my grandfathers lineage...my line came via Rhode  
  Island to California (SF Bay Area)

  Manuel Ignacio Borba arrived 1872 at 21 years old...

  Do you have a tree on Ancestry by chance?

  Adair Borba
  On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:34 AM, tr6 wrote:

  > Looking for Ancestry back to Treceira. Antone Borba came to California
  > in the 1880's.Looking for any information..Thanks...
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Debra surname

[Dano]

Are you certain that it is "Debra," and not "Dutra?"

On Jun 7, 9:35 am, bpj...@aol.com wrote:
> In researching my family in Lajes do Pico, I found the name Manuel Rodrigues 
> Debra. Has anyone come across the surname Debra in their research?
>
> Thank you.
> Janice Perry

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso - help needed!!!

[Dano]

Hi Eliseu,
Though my family is predominently from the southern part of S. Miguel,
I also have several links to Ribeira Grande and Nordeste. One of these
is a person named Jacinto Pacheco de Barbosa who married a woman named
Angelica Rosa do Espirito Santo Tavares on 19-Aug-1799 (NS da Graca-
Porto Formoso). Jacinto is descended from the very prominent "Barbosa
da Silva" family - specifically, Tome Barbosa da Silva. (Source:
R.Rodrigues - Genealogias das ilhas de S. Miguel e Santa Maria). If
you have access to the referenced publication, Jacinto is listed in
Vol. 1, Pg 296. If you need more info let me know.


On Jun 6, 11:03 am, "Eliseu Pacheco da Silva" 
wrote:
> Hi Group
>
> Does anyone ever heard about:
>
> -           “capitam” Manuel da Silva and his son Jacinto Ignácio Tavares
> Raposo from around 1810 in Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso?
>
> -          José da Costa Creador married to Josefa do Espírito Santo around
> 1810 in Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso?
>
> -          Francisco Gonçalves married to Francisca de Jesus around 1810 in
> Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso?
>
> -          Manuel Gonçalves married to Angélica do Rosário around 1810 in
> Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso?
>
> -          João (Joam) José da Costa married to Francisca Rosa de Jesus
> around 1810 in Ribeira Grande, Porto Formoso?
>
> Please let me know about even if you have close names…
>
> Thank you in advance!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Debra surname

[bpjp25]

In researching my family in Lajes do Pico, I found the name Manuel Rodrigues 
Debra. Has anyone come across the surname Debra in their research? 

Thank you.
Janice Perry



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation re: padrinos

[Dano]

You are correct, Francisco Espinosa e Betencourt is listed as the son
of Francisco Pires Machado and his wife Dona Joana in this record.
Just as a point of order, however, the name "Pires" on this record is
spelled with an "s" at the end.
~

On Jun 6, 9:15 pm, sdarosa  wrote:
> would someone mind looking at the padrinos in this record and tell me
> if I'm reading it right?  The first record on the top right page.
>
> http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVB1660-1700/SJ...
>
> What I think it says is this -
> Padrinos, captain Francisco de Espinosa & betencourt son of Captain
> Francisco Pirez Machado and D. Joanna, wife of Captain Francisco Pirez
> Machado.
> Would I be correct in thinking that Francisco Espinosa de betencourt
> is also the son of D. Joanna?
>
> thanks, Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation re: padrinos

[Joao S. Lopes]

The text is dubious: Francisco is surely son of Francisco, but it's not clear 
if Joana was only his father's wife or his mother. And I have doubts if the 
surname was Espinoza or Espinola. Looks like Espinoza, but Espindola 
Bettencourt is a common combination. 

JS Lopes




De: sdarosa 
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 6 de Junho de 2011 22:15
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation re: padrinos

would someone mind looking at the padrinos in this record and tell me
if I'm reading it right?  The first record on the top right page.

http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SJVVB1660-1700/SJVVB1660-1700_item1/P305.html

What I think it says is this -
Padrinos, captain Francisco de Espinosa & betencourt son of Captain
Francisco Pirez Machado and D. Joanna, wife of Captain Francisco Pirez
Machado.
Would I be correct in thinking that Francisco Espinosa de betencourt
is also the son of D. Joanna?

thanks, Suzanne

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[Adair Borba]

I am searching my grandfathers lineage...my line came via Rhode  
Island to California (SF Bay Area)


Manuel Ignacio Borba arrived 1872 at 21 years old...

Do you have a tree on Ancestry by chance?

Adair Borba
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:34 AM, tr6 wrote:


Looking for Ancestry back to Treceira. Antone Borba came to California
in the 1880's.Looking for any information..Thanks...

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba in Treceira Joao De Borba

[besotes]

Hello,

My 2nd Great Grandfather, Jose da Rocha de Borba immigrated from  
Terceira to  California in 1870.


He was born in 1850, Angra do Heroismo, Terceira, Azores
Baptism at St. Bartholomew dos Regatos Parish Church, Angra do Heroísmo

In 1883 he lived in Milpitas and later settled in the San Jose area  
and was a large land owner up until he died in 1928.


I show Jose having a brother Joao born about 1863 and their parents  
were Jose da Rocha de Borba and Custodia Candida.  In addition, I have  
a total of nine children (so far) and some information going back to  
1760 on this line.


My new desktop has been sent in for a diagnosis since the blue screen  
of death has appeared several times, so I'm reply by webmailin  
case you don't receive a prompt reply from me you know why.


Robin Borba Besotes
Northern California


Quoting tr6 :


Looking for Ancestry back to Treceira. Antone Borba came to California
in the 1880's.Looking for any information..Thanks...


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