Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Culturacores Website
Hi Cherri, First of, just stating (again) I'm not the João Ventura you wrote about :) The situation in the Azores may be similar to the one in mainland Portugal. There, the records were all microfilmed and are being digitized by the LDS church. However, due to the agreement between the Portuguese government and the Utah Genealogical Society (I think they are now called FamilySearch Inc.), the records can only be made available on FamilySearch to church members. The general public has access to those records via the official Portuguese goverment organization (CCA, DGLAB, ARM). There are some exceptions to the above, as some archives weren't 'owned' by the Government itself, but rather by other branches such as universities (District of Braga archives) and city halls (Guimarães, Elvas). In these cases, the records are available to everyone. As you can understand it's also been very frustrating for us in Portugal that the DGLAB people take forever to make available to the general public what the LDS has made available to the church members for years. We also fail to understand why the agreement dictated this restriction. Recently we started a mail campaign that resulted in the current spurt of lots-of-records-every-day that began in July 10, and since then has made available over 5000 parish books online. I'm attaching the original letter. From my discussion recently at the Horta archive, they confirmed that all these books from the CCA were microfilmed/digitized by the LDS church, and that they are the ones providing all the images. The CCA then applies the watermark and verifies that the images are accurate. So a little mail campaign may also help in this case. I can adapt the attached letter so that it addresses the CCA director instead if there's some interest, and make it bi-lingual so that you guys can understand what you're signing. Needless to say, paper still goes a lot further than e-mails in these bureaucratic environments. João Ventura On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:28:09 AM UTC+2, Cheri Mello wrote: I can't remember all the details, but when Joao Ventura (the archivist) was in Utah, FamilySearch caught wind of it. He got a tour of Granite Mountain and they kidnapped him for a special meeting. Maybe Joao will remember...I think that they told us (I was present for that part) that ALL of their microfilm will be digitized in 5 or 6 years. That was April 2012, so you can figure that out. They are indexing the film as it becomes digitized. But Family Search has you do some American records (to get used to their indexing system) before any foreign records. I think part of the meeting with Joao was to find out who to contact for more record filming and that kind of thing. I don't think anyone was opposed to to the records being accessible on the Internet. I think Family Search's logic would be to put records online that have many researchers using them. So if Brazil has almost 194 million people versus the Azores' 246,000, well, that might explain Family Search's thinking. It's been awhile since I've asked, but maybe it's time for us to email the CCA, telling them how grateful we are for their resource, it's much appreciated, etc, etc. They don't have the counters on every page, so depending on which page we've bookmarked, they may not be getting a true count. So let's email them and maybe that will motivate them to put a few more records online! Their email address is: *drac...@azores.gov.ptjavascript:(English or Portuguese) * Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. Exmo Senhor Director da DGLAB.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are - Sweepstakes
It was an interesting show. I have done German and Russian and Polish research (not War related). In the German research, I found someone living in the area the family came from who gave me a lot of history of the area and took pictures of the family home for me. Unfortunately on the Volga Russian research, not enough of their listers have participate in DNA which has not solved the question who was a relative's ggrandfather's father whose birth record lists no father's name. For the Polish research, I found an excellent young man in Poland quite a few years ago who did all the work for me, taking pictures of tombstones, contacting living members of my brother in law's family, etc. for an affordable price. E On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: This week's show was about Chelsea Handler. Her grandfather was taken as Prisoner of War to IOWA http://goo.gl/oH6bNL -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra
Is the Diocese of Angra on Pico or Terceira? I had thought it was Pico, but that may be wrong. Anne Snyder -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Hi Cheri, I found information on my father. He was born: Frank Frietes Pimentel He was born in 1897 and came to the us in 1917 from Flores at the age of 20yrs. I feel he might have resided on the east cost for a number of years when he had my two half brothers. On my birth certificate, he was listed at 47 yrs.old and had resided in Fresno, CA for 27yrs. and that was in 1944 my birth year. Hope this will help. Thanks, Gary Pimentel: Hi, I'm trying to get a handle on my dad's side of his family. He was Frank Pimentel a rancher in Fresno, CA. He has two sons from a previous marriage. Dr. David Pimentel of Cornell, and Jack Pimentel Of Mas. My father was from Flores and had three brother one who was a priest, Manual on Flores along with his sister, Maria. I think my dad came here when he was 21yrs old,.an was a successful farmer in raisin, cotton and potatoes. if anyone knows any information on his side of family, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Gary Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra
Anne,The diocese of Angra encompasses the entire 9 islands of the Azores.The main church of the diocese is the Se Cathedral in Angra, Terceira. Maybe that's what you were thinking about.I'm not sure, but I believe that Angra's cathedral was first built in the late 1400s.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra From: "Anne Snyder" po...@aceweb.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 8:51 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Is the Diocese of Angra on Pico or Terceira? I had thought it was Pico, but that may be wrong. Anne Snyder -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Culturacores Website
This morning I sent an email to Marcolino Candeias, Director of BPARAH, and who become good friends since my last visit to Azores, He is also frustrated with the situation. I decided to copy and paste part of the message, so those who speak Portuguese can read what he told me. Accordingly to the person he talked on CCA the problem is on the Government Servers that don't have space at the moment and they don't know when it will be available. A informação que obtive foi a de que têm falta de espaço no servidor central do Governo e que por essa razão não podem publicá-los. Pode parecer uma explicação estranha, mas eu sei que deve ser a real. Os técnicos de informática do Governo, contrariando o sentido e o conceito da Internet, têm sempre defendido a centralização dos servidores, o que evidentemente, além de outros inconvenientes e sobretudo perigos, traz problemas destes. Hope this has answered at least part of the questions regarding updates on the CCA website. Isabella On Monday, August 5, 2013 1:28:18 AM UTC-4, John Machado wrote: I was curious if anyone knows when and if additional records will be added to the Culturacoreshttp://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspxwebsite. I have been checking in every once in a while to see if Flamengos, Faial records have been added. Has there been activity for other islands and parishes? It has been such an invaluable resource. I noticed some of the records I ordered through Joao Ventura also had the watermark (DRAC-EPARJJG) similar to those images on the website. Those ordered records came from parishes not on the website. That seems to suggest the records are in existence but not yet uploaded? Joao is a great asset but sometimes I have to just read all the records online to get him a starting point. John -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Culturacores Website
I sure hope they get it resolved. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote: This morning I sent an email to Marcolino Candeias, Director of BPARAH, and who become good friends since my last visit to Azores,** He is also frustrated with the situation. I decided to copy and paste part of the message, so those who speak Portuguese can read what he told me. Accordingly to the person he talked on CCA the problem is on the Government Servers that don't have space at the moment and they don't know when it will be available. A informação que obtive foi a de que têm falta de espaço no servidor central do Governo e que por essa razão não podem publicá-los. Pode parecer uma explicação estranha, mas eu sei que deve ser a real. Os técnicos de informática do Governo, contrariando o sentido e o conceito da Internet, têm sempre defendido a centralização dos servidores, o que evidentemente, além de outros inconvenientes e sobretudo perigos, traz problemas destes. Hope this has answered at least part of the questions regarding updates on the CCA website. Isabella On Monday, August 5, 2013 1:28:18 AM UTC-4, John Machado wrote: I was curious if anyone knows when and if additional records will be added to the Culturacoreshttp://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspxwebsite. I have been checking in every once in a while to see if Flamengos, Faial records have been added. Has there been activity for other islands and parishes? It has been such an invaluable resource. I noticed some of the records I ordered through Joao Ventura also had the watermark (DRAC-EPARJJG) similar to those images on the website. Those ordered records came from parishes not on the website. That seems to suggest the records are in existence but not yet uploaded? Joao is a great asset but sometimes I have to just read all the records online to get him a starting point. John -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra
Doug- Would that church also have Jewish information? - Shirl - From: p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Anne Snyder po...@aceweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra Anne, The diocese of Angra encompasses the entire 9 islands of the Azores. The main church of the diocese is the Se Cathedral in Angra, Terceira. Maybe that's what you were thinking about. I'm not sure, but I believe that Angra's cathedral was first built in the late 1400s. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra From: Anne Snyder po...@aceweb.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 8:51 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Is the Diocese of Angra on Pico or Terceira? I had thought it was Pico, but that may be wrong. Anne Snyder -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra
Shirl,I don't remember ever seeing anything about them in the normal church records.I assume you want info on your Moroccan lines of Benarus, etc, and not the original Jews from the early 1500s forced to convert.I guess they only showed up in general population census records. Tom Leal just mentioned a census taken on Pico for Santo Amaro in the late 1800s. I don't remember the year.If that was an effort throughout the entire Azores, then that would probably include everyone, no matter the religion.There was the 1869 census of the entire Austro-Hungarian Empire and that is one of the only sources of Jews for Hungary. Taking a census might have caught on and been done in all other countries about that time. Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra From: Shirl Sereque shirl.sere...@frontier.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 2:17 pm To: "azores@googlegroups.com" azores@googlegroups.com Doug- Would that church also have Jewish information?- Shirl - From: "p...@dholmes.com" p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Anne Snyder po...@aceweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra Anne,The diocese of Angra encompasses the entire 9 islands of the Azores.The main church of the diocese is the Se Cathedral in Angra, Terceira. Maybe that's what you were thinking about.I'm not sure, but I believe that Angra's cathedral was first built in the late 1400s.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra From: "Anne Snyder" po...@aceweb.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 8:51 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Is the Diocese of Angra on Pico or Terceira? I had thought it was Pico, but that may be wrong. Anne Snyder -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra
Thank you, Doug, for that information. Anne - Original Message - From: Shirl Sereque To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra Doug- Would that church also have Jewish information? - Shirl - -- From: p...@dholmes.com p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Anne Snyder po...@aceweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra Anne, The diocese of Angra encompasses the entire 9 islands of the Azores. The main church of the diocese is the Se Cathedral in Angra, Terceira. Maybe that's what you were thinking about. I'm not sure, but I believe that Angra's cathedral was first built in the late 1400s. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Diocese of Angra From: Anne Snyder po...@aceweb.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 8:51 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Is the Diocese of Angra on Pico or Terceira? I had thought it was Pico, but that may be wrong. Anne Snyder -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943Name:Francisco F PimentelArrival Date:13 Jul 1915Age:18Estimated Birth Year:abt 1897http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=angs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897uidh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk=# Gender:MalePort of Departure:St Michaels, Azores, PortugalShip Name:CreticPort of Arrival:Boston, MassachusettsFriend's Name:Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above)Last Residence:FloresBirthplace:Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
There is a WWI record for a Francisco F. Pimentel b. January 30, 1897, lived in Fowler CA. Born in Flores. Says he is a US citizen by his father Antone F. Pimental, Jr. If he is the Francisco F. Pimentel who died in 1963 in Sanger, his mother's maiden name is listed as Denascim??? Let me know if I am on the right track. E On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name:Francisco F Pimentel Arrival Date:13 Jul 1915Age:18Estimated Birth Year:abt 1897http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=angs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897uidh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk=# Gender:MalePort of Departure:St Michaels, Azores, PortugalShip Name:CreticPort of Arrival:Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name:Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above)Last Residence:FloresBirthplace:Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao S Goncalves family, San Antao, Sao Jorge
Does anyone have this family in their records?? Joao S. Goncalves b. abt 1850 Sao Jorge Izabel A Goncalves b. abt 1857 (Maiden name Azevedo?) Topo area, Sao Jorge They traveled to Boston in Oct 1913 on the Canopic. The manifest states they were from Sao Antao, Sao Jorge and were headed for Oakland, CA where Joao has a brother named Elias S Goncalves. Rumored children of Joao and Izabel are: Manuel b. Dec 1907, Sao Antao or Topo Jose Joao Rosa Conceiao Maria Lourdes Please email me directly and respond to the list. Thank you! Lisa Harley Southern CA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao S Goncalves/ Sao Antao, Sao Jorge - CORRECTION
CORRECTION!! The other Joao/Izabel couple were the wrong ages. Does anyone have this family in their records?? Joao S. Goncalves b. Sao Jorge? Izabel Victorina b. abt 1886 (Maiden name Azevedo?) Topo area, Sao Jorge Izabel may have died in Sao Jorge ca 1959 according to my info. Rumored children of Joao and Izabel are: Manuel b. Dec 1907, Sao Antao or Topo Jose Joao Rosa Conceiao Maria Lourdes Please email me directly and respond to the list. Thank you! Lisa Harley Southern CA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Gary, have you had any contact with your half brother David Pimentel? I don't know what sort of family dynamic you're dealing with, but because he is older he may remember valuable details about your father's history, the sort of information you wouldn't be able to get from public records. As an emeritus professor, he probably keeps irregular hours, but you might be able to reach him easily by email. Here is his contact information, according to the Cornell website: http://www.cornell.edu/search/?tab=peoplenetid=dp18q=Pimentel I live in Ithaca and have heard of Professor Pimentel, but I don't know him. I wish you luck in your search. Nancy On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: There is a WWI record for a Francisco F. Pimentel b. January 30, 1897, lived in Fowler CA. Born in Flores. Says he is a US citizen by his father Antone F. Pimental, Jr. If he is the Francisco F. Pimentel who died in 1963 in Sanger, his mother's maiden name is listed as Denascim??? Let me know if I am on the right track. E On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name:Francisco F Pimentel Arrival Date:13 Jul 1915Age:18Estimated Birth Year:abt 1897http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=angs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897uidh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk=# Gender:MalePort of Departure:St Michaels, Azores, PortugalShip Name: CreticPort of Arrival:Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name:Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above)Last Residence:FloresBirthplace:Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
That could be da Nascamento Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 7:58 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree There is a WWI record for a Francisco F. Pimentel b. January 30, 1897, lived in Fowler CA. Born in Flores. Says he is a US citizen by his father Antone F. Pimental, Jr. If he is the Francisco F. Pimentel who died in 1963 in Sanger, his mother's maiden name is listed as Denascim??? Let me know if I am on the right track. E On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name: Francisco F Pimentel Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1915 Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=an gs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897ui dh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk= abt 1897 Gender: Male Port of Departure: St Michaels, Azores, Portugal Ship Name: Cretic Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name: Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above) Last Residence: Flores Birthplace: Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
[AZORES-Genealogy] Freitas Pimentel of Fajazinha, Flores
Gary,I once did a massive amount of research on the Freitas Pimentel line from Fajazinha, Flores for one Wilfred Pimentel of Fresno. I don't know if he would still be alive at 87yrs now. So if that is your line, I might have the documents you need. I remember they were a pioneering family from Fresno county, with many siblings who immigrated in the early 1900s.Write me privately if you get stuck.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 2:56 pm To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Gary P,If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it.You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
e Thanks for the information, But so far I have my grandparents with their six siblings coming into alameda, CA. around 1902. This so far is becoming a fantastic trip exploring my father's side. He was very closed lip about his family so I never had anything to go by. Plus he died when I was in my teens, and at that time and youth it wasn't a priority. Thanks for the info, Gary From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:45 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name: Francisco F Pimentel Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1915 Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=an gs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897ui dh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk= abt 1897 Gender: Male Port of Departure: St Michaels, Azores, Portugal Ship Name: Cretic Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name: Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above) Last Residence: Flores Birthplace: Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Freitas Pimentel of Fajazinha, Flores
Hi Doug Wilfred Pimentel was my first cousin. He was Joe Pimentel's son. Joe was my father's young Brother. I have gone just to where Manual and Maria Pimentel immigrated to the U.S. with six siblings. Would appreciate any information you could give me. Thanks, Gary From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:12 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Freitas Pimentel of Fajazinha, Flores Gary, I once did a massive amount of research on the Freitas Pimentel line from Fajazinha, Flores for one Wilfred Pimentel of Fresno. I don't know if he would still be alive at 87yrs now. So if that is your line, I might have the documents you need. I remember they were a pioneering family from Fresno county, with many siblings who immigrated in the early 1900s. Write me privately if you get stuck. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Wed, August 07, 2013 2:56 pm To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Hi Nancy, Said to say, But I have never met my half-brother. My father an his two first son's had some falling out when I believe I was born (1944) my fathers and all his brothers all died in the 60's( strokes, heart attacks and the like). Thanks for the information, I will see if there is a contact. Gary. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Couto Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 7:12 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree Gary, have you had any contact with your half brother David Pimentel? I don't know what sort of family dynamic you're dealing with, but because he is older he may remember valuable details about your father's history, the sort of information you wouldn't be able to get from public records. As an emeritus professor, he probably keeps irregular hours, but you might be able to reach him easily by email. Here is his contact information, according to the Cornell website: http://www.cornell.edu/search/?tab=people http://www.cornell.edu/search/?tab=peoplenetid=dp18q=Pimentel netid=dp18q=Pimentel I live in Ithaca and have heard of Professor Pimentel, but I don't know him. I wish you luck in your search. Nancy On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 8:57 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: There is a WWI record for a Francisco F. Pimentel b. January 30, 1897, lived in Fowler CA. Born in Flores. Says he is a US citizen by his father Antone F. Pimental, Jr. If he is the Francisco F. Pimentel who died in 1963 in Sanger, his mother's maiden name is listed as Denascim??? Let me know if I am on the right track. E On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P. Could this be him? It says he is coming from Fajazinha, Flores. Going to Fresno, CA. It looks like the person listed just before him Alberto L. Coelho 17, is going to his Aunt and Uncle Anna Pimentel there is a ditto for Francisco F. Pimentel so were these his parents? If you want me to send you an actual picture of the manifest, send me your personal email address. If this is them you should be able to find them on the CCA site. I do not do this anymore as it is too difficult for me to read. Sorry. E Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 Name: Francisco F Pimentel Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1915 Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1new=1MSAV=0msT=1gss=an gs-igsfn=frank+freitasgsln=pimentelmswpn__ftp=massachusettsmsbdy=1897ui dh=612db=bostonplindiv=1pf=1recid=h=2419718fh=ct=fsk=bsk= abt 1897 Gender: Male Port of Departure: St Michaels, Azores, Portugal Ship Name: Cretic Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts Friend's Name: Uncle and Aunt Anna Pimentel, Fresno (see above) Last Residence: Flores Birthplace: Flores On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Gary P, If you don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com, you can go to your local public library to access it. You can look for your dad beginning in the 1940 U.S. Federal Census. Then find him in the 1930 and the 1920. You may be able to find him immigrating into America as well, by checking Ancestry's Immigration Collection. He'll probably be under the name of Francisco and the Frietes may be Freitas, Frates, etc. Once you check under Freitas, you'll also have to check under Pimentel, Pimental, etc. You don't know if he immigrated under the compounded surname or not. All that should answer your question about him living on the east coast. (I'd save a copy of the census too). Those census should also tell you if he was a naturalized citizen or not. You can order his naturalization packet from the USCIS. John Vasconcelos is going to be gone over a couple of weeks. He was born in the Fresno area and says he believes your line was from Fajazinha. My how to guide can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/XXGwQe You may also wish to bookmark the main Azores GenWeb site: http://goo.gl/Vmutv5 Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation)
